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  • GreatRain
    Contributor - Level 1
    2009-07-29
    Firstly, I've done this and loved the result, though in the back of my mind I wonder...hmm...is their a possible gain/power issue to this approach? Could I damage the unit?

    Here's the application: I play a Taylor T5 and an Acoustic 814. I like to put an A/B box first in line, then route to a distortion unit (tube screamer, that sort of thing), then into the Gnatural, then out to the PA/amp, whatever.

    This lets me do a few things. First, I can keep both guitars plugged in and not have to switch cables on stage. Second, when playing acoustic...bypass the distortion and just use the Gnatural the way it was meant to be.

    OR, I can select the T5 and run it clean....OR kick in the distortion unit and toughen it up to get blues leads, etc. to scream. An added benefit is that I LOVE the effects of the GNatural layered on the electric. My T5 also needs a little boost to be on par with the Acoustic...so I also use the Distortion unit as a basic gain boost without messing with the tone too much.

    Anyway.....it's a win win and gives me all the options I need with a very small footprint on stage.

    My only concern is that I've not heard of anyone else running this way....and while logically there shouldn't be any issues.......I though...hey....isn't this what forums are for?

    Sharing is caring...and I hope this is helpful to others out there.

    I'm planning on submitting a few other posts re: the GNatural. I've been using this exclusively on stage since I bought it ..and have dug deep through nearly all the features. Would love to share some of the cool things this rig is great at.

    Minor Gripe: TC.....if you have time to design all these features.....it would be a great idea to pass the details on to the user. I personally love dinking around to find good stuff but this unit is MUCH more powerful and useful than anybody would guess from the supporting documentation you've put out. You'd sell more if you'd share more.

    No hard feelings though.....this is an exceptional product!

    Looking forward to input....
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    • GreatRain
      HuskyDog Hi,



      I am looking to use my G Natural for some electric work to save taking a separate effects board with me, but I need a light crunch sound. I am interested that you use a distortion pedal, It sound like it all works well. What make of pedal do you use?
      • February 19, 2012
  • Al_W
    Contributor - Level 2
    2009-07-15
    Hello all,
    I thought I saw a schmatic of the Rivera FS7 Footswitch and how make a cable from that. I have a Rivera Chubster 40 Amp and would like to control Channel switching from the G-System. I also thought I saw that I probably wont be able to control the boosts and stuff but Channel switching in itself would be cool. I emailed Rivera from thier website but have'nt heard from them.

    Thanks for any input
    Al
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    • Al_W
      Mike_Charles Hi,



      I have a Rivera Venus 6 and the footswitch pinout for it is very much like your amp as I understand. PM me and I'll send you the pin out. You should be able to control all 4 functions with the relays on the G System.



      Mike
      • July 15, 2009
    • Al_W
      Mike_Charles I've just found you can get the cable from Rivera if you want:



      https://www.shopatron.com/product/part_number=FS7-4F/746.0.56.0.0.0.0
      • July 21, 2009
    • Al_W
      Al_W Thanks for the info Mike. I finally found some DIN Connectors tho (without having to purchase 100 or 200 of them that is), so I am going to try to Fabricate one first. Appreciate the schematic also. I can foward it to anyone who wants it also. I will also post my results once I have made it.



      Al
      • July 21, 2009
    • Al_W
      Nohr Hi! Did you get the G-system to switch channels, gain and Ninjaboost on your Chubster? I just bought one and I´m rather curious..
      • April 8, 2011
    • Al_W
      Jude Anybody have a wiring diagram for River Fandango FS-7 footswitch, or anywhere i can get a cable to do switching with G System relays (8 pin DIN to 1/4
      • October 24, 2012
  • Crispy
    Contributor - Level 2
    2009-07-14
    I've just bought the Blackstar Series One and want to use it with my G-System for channel switching.

    The amp has MIDI channel switching capability but if possible I'd like to avoid the going down the MIDI route.

    The footswitch connector is a 9 pin plug so what I need to know is can I manufacture a cable that goes 9 pin to TRS.
    Maybe something like this? http://www.flightstore.co.uk/prod/ICOPC478/

    I'm not sure whether that would work as the amp has 4 channels and not sure how the relays would work with that. Maybe it'd have to be 9 pin to 2 TRS cables?

    If this is something that's not possible I'd greatly appreciate any advice on how to use the MIDI facility to switch channels.

    Thanks in advance for any replies.
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    • Crispy
      Laird_Williams

      Crispy wrote:

      I've just bought the Blackstar Series One and want to use it with my G-System for channel switching.



      The amp has MIDI channel switching capability but if possible I'd like to avoid the going down the MIDI route.



      The footswitch connector is a 9 pin plug so what I need to know is can I manufacture a cable that goes 9 pin to TRS.

      Maybe something like this? http://www.flightstore.co.uk/prod/ICOPC478/



      I'm not sure whether that would work as the amp has 4 channels and not sure how the relays would work with that. Maybe it'd have to be 9 pin to 2 TRS cables?



      If this is something that's not possible I'd greatly appreciate any advice on how to use the MIDI facility to switch channels.



      Thanks in advance for any replies.


      It is unlikely that you will be able to purchase a suitable cable unless the amp manufacturer makes one. If you get the pinout for the 9-pin connector from the manufacturer, I can help you work out how to make one.
      • July 13, 2009
    • Crispy
      xyphod Why don't you want to go down the Midi route?

      If you have a G-system you have a basic midi controller anyway. Just one cable to go between the two.
      • July 14, 2009
    • Crispy
      Crispy Hi Laird and thanks for your offer of help.



      I messaged Blackstar and they were very prompt in their reply.



      Here's what they say.





      The Series One footswitch interface has four pins (pins 6, 7, 8 & 9) corresponding to each of the four channels. To select a particular channel, it’s pin must be momentarily connected to a common pin (pin 5). I don’t know the TC system intimately enough to know whether it can provide that kind of function – four separate momentary switched outputs. I would recommend the MIDI route as a simple trouble free solution – one cable is all that is required, and programming the amp is a doddle. Another (more costly) alternative would be to use something like the G-LAB switching system with the Blackstar S1 adapter.


      I have to confess I'm not really up on electronics but if that reply means I can get a cable made up to use the G-System channel switching relays I know someone who can make me the cable. I had similar issues with my Mesa F-100.



      It does sound like Blackstar recommend MIDI though and tha manual has a whole section dedicated to MIDI channel switching with a list of which MIDI programs select which amp channel.



      Here's what the manual says:





      To set up MIDI channel switching, simply connect the MIDI controller's MIDI out socket to the MIDI in socket on the rear of the amplifier.

      The controller should be set to transmit program change messages (this is usually the case). From new, a Series One amplifier is set to OMNI mode and responds to program change messages on all MIDI channels. Changing "patches" on the controller will change the selected channel on the amp. The default settings for each program change number are shown in the table below



      1 Clean

      2 Crunch

      3 Overdrive

      4 Overdrive 2

      5 Clean

      6 Crunch

      7 Overdrive

      8 Overdrive 2


      I don't need to type all that table but this sequence repeats right up to 128.



      If MIDI is the only solution what do I need to make this work? Will the G-System go direct into the amp or do need a MIDI controller?



      I've never used MIDI before so excuse my lack of knowledge on the subject.



      Thanks again in advance for any advice.
      • July 14, 2009
    • Crispy
      xyphod Connect the two together via a midi cable.



      On the G (can't remember the menu options off hand) you can setup the numbers that should be sent to



      i.e. on c0-1 -->send 1 (clean)

      on c0-2 -->send 4 (overdrive 2)



      Bobs your uncle
      • July 14, 2009
    • Crispy
      Crispy Hi



      I was reluctant to go down the MIDI route as it's something I have little knowledge of. I thought I might have to buy an external MIDI controller.



      It does sound quite simple though. So I can run the G-System straight into the back of the amp and the MIDI facility on the G-System will change the channels as long as I assign the correct MIDI program change to each preset?



      Sounds simple if I'm understanding it right.



      Any suggestions on good quality MIDI cables?
      • July 14, 2009
  • fender308
    Contributor - Level 2
    2009-07-10
    Is it true that TC electronic is preparing a G-Force update model like the G-Major 2? I wonder what will it have updated and new?
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    • fender308
      tempests Hopefully not the crappy silver like they did with the G-Major 2. Now my rack looks stupid, where it looked so nice with the G-major installed in it.
      • October 30, 2009
    • fender308
      tayholliday They've got a lot of catching up to do with the Axe-FX! Though I'd rather them not spend their time on amp models.



      If there's a single feature I'd want in a new G-force, I think it would be multiple instantiation of effects blocks and enough DSP power to run quite a few.
      • December 11, 2009
    • fender308
      Richiesos My wishes for the G-Force 2 are:



      relay switching

      more customized scales for the harmonizer.

      more midi control. I would love it if the g-force could send out MIDI messages (CC and program to other devices)
      • December 27, 2010
    • fender308
      SenJuYzu It could also have a Pre-amp loop, more output options, more MIDI real-time control options per patch, more cool fx like "ring modulator" AND, of course, affordable prices...



      A USB/firewire link AND a PC/Mac editor (graphical/visual type, please) would also be sweet.
      • April 4, 2011
    • fender308
      ampaddict And Polyphonic tuning?!
      • April 16, 2011
  • Lofreq
    Contributor - Level 1
    2009-06-20
    Hi.

    Does the 450 have a cooling fan or is it convection cooled?

    Thanks
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    • Lofreq
      rune The RH450 has a cooling fan. It is however extremely silent, and the speed of the fan is automatically controlled. This ensures that the unit is cool at all times.

      Just tried putting my ear close to a unit, and could not hear anything though it had been on at moderate levels for quite a while.
      • June 21, 2009
    • Lofreq
      johnwentzien This amp stays very cool even when pushed HARD.

      It has the most quiet fan in it..I can hardly hear it even up-close.
      • June 23, 2009
    • Lofreq
      BASSically Yep

      This amp definatly runs cool. After playing it for 3 one hour sets and checking it after each set ..cold..not even warm..

      Too Cool!! .. I mean that in a good way
      • July 5, 2009
  • trooper
    Contributor - Level 2
    2009-06-19
    Hey all, i bought a tc konnekt 6 like - 2-3 weeks ago and i still haveing big problems, i already wrote to the support and got some answers "and still waiting for some" but why i write here is cuz im getting frustrated and dont rly know what to do! my problem is this, when i select TC Near as drivers in Cubase or any other music program it start to lagging/freezing/crashing i can´t rly do anything!! i have a HP Pavilion dv9500/Amd Turion 64 X2 TL-58 1.90Ghz 2gb ram Vista 32-bit Home Premium, and the drivers etc is updated, i have the TC_Near_220_4988_340 installed, ive tried Audacity, Cubase,FL Studio 8, and many different music programs with the same result, what can possible be wrong? any one else experience this?! please help me
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    • trooper
      Anamnesia Have you tried the DPC Spike Checker tool, found in your Programs/TCElectronics folder?



      Also, what are your TCnear buffers set to?
      • June 19, 2009
    • trooper
      trooper Thanks for answering, yes ive tried DPC Spike Checker tool it says "your computer is performing well and seems to optimized for audio streaming" same stuff happens when i try to run cubase etc, even tho i cant use the program when it start lagging/freezing up,

      my asio buffer size on "tc near control panel" is sett on 256 samples ive tried to change it but nothing happened, this is my first audio interface so im not verry good at settings,
      • June 19, 2009
    • trooper
      Anamnesia Sometimes Freeware/Shareware, Bloatware (software supplied by the computer manufacturer) & other "appz" (cough!) can have unforeseen outcomes.



      Antivirus software & having an active internet connection can also cause problems.



      I take it that you manage to get Cubase running? What does the VST Performance meters show? And what about your CPU percentages when Cubase is running an active project?
      • June 19, 2009
    • trooper
      trooper Yep i can run Cubase ,,,"VST Performance meters" cant see if theres any movement,

      the cpu percentages movie between 2-10% pretty steady, it moves up a little more when program freezing up to mutch, Cubase work and all but as soon as i choose Tc Near as device i cant use it anymore , im not talking about small lagg spikes or anything like that, its more like the program getting stuck, it takes like 50 sec or more after i clickt on something to open a menu or anything else , but when tc near is not selcted on cubase it works great but of course i cant record without selecting tc near as drivers, im not sure if any other "appz" can make it lagg so bad as it do, i know you can get some bad lagg by haveing some other progs being active tho but this lagg i think is caused by something else cuz its so mutch lagg ,but maby ??? ill check it out , thanks for the reply i real appreciate it,
      • June 20, 2009
    • trooper
      trooper hey i just found out some strange things.. first of all when i select Tc Near as drivers the cpu monitor goes crasy "its like max out to 99% usage" dosent matter if konnekt 6 power is on or off it just goes crasy. so i messt around for awhile and did choose Asio DirectX Full Duplex and wow i can choose the direct sound input ports there and "the tc near microphone" and of course it works to record by doing that,, but i dont get it , why is it like that? shudent i have Tc Near as selected asio drivers ? this is strange well atleast i can record now, anyone else have similar settings?
      • June 20, 2009
  • TC-Mike
    Triber Moderator
    2009-06-17
    Hi all,

    We've posted a public BETA version of the Vyzor G-Major 2 editor software:

    PC version can be found here
    Mac version can be found here

    Please sende your feedback, questions and bug reports to:
    [email protected].

    Feel free to discuss the software here and let us know what you think.

    best regards,

    Mike
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    • TC-Mike
      TC-Mike I highly recommend to read the included manuals about the editor's data structure and get aquainted with the "edit buffer" principle of the software, which basically just means that whenever you are working with the editor, you are working with copies of the preset data

      and you won't alter or overwrite any of your G-Major2 program settings unless you use the editor's "sync" function to transfer a preset from the editor to the corresponding memory location in the user bank of your G-major 2 hardware think of the Epeditor as an independent virtual G-major 2.



      More infos can be found in the read me.pdf and the included manuals of the editor (data management.pdf)



      If you have any questions, let me know..
      • June 16, 2009
    • TC-Mike
      TC-Mike if you want to save and share single preset files, click on the "G-Major 2" logo on the Editor GUI right of the virtual display, which will reveal a "preset file" open / save menu.



      You can also create File notes for your preset creations. (there is a little graphical glitch

      in the PC version while you are in the "Bank view" of the editor. As a workaround, just change to any other view of the editor, when filling out file notes for your preset creations)



      In the future it will be possible to upload and share presets via the forthcoming G-Major 2 preset vault on the TC website. Currently it just transfers you to the G-Major 2 product pages. Expect this feature to be ready mid july.
      • June 16, 2009
    • TC-Mike
      ljbarbeau the link for the mac version doesnt work it points to the 1.02 updater. so I find myself with 2 updater but no software. also the step by step link is wrong to. u have http:// twice at the begining both in mac and pc version..



      Luigi
      • June 17, 2009
    • TC-Mike
      TC-Mike thx for the note- It's fixed now.
      • June 17, 2009
    • TC-Mike
      Jip I don't have an usb midi interface, i 've seen on the vyzor website that some are better than other to work with the software, like the midisport better than the uno, could you confirm?
      • June 17, 2009
  • paulg2uk
    Contributor - Level 2
    2009-06-16
    Hi all.

    Thought I would post a pic of my nova system setup that I've recently setup. If anyone wants to do the same feel free I'm always interested to see what another people have done with their nova system and I'm sure I'm not the only one.

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    • paulg2uk
      re Hey There!



      This is my compact version:




      • June 15, 2009
    • paulg2uk
      paulg2uk Excellent,



      it seems like everyone has a smaller more compact rig as well as their main rig. Its good to know some of us guitarists think a like lol.



      Keep em coming people.
      • June 15, 2009
    • paulg2uk
      Jawa paulg2uk, What are you using as the floorboard with the straps I am very intrigued!!!???
      • June 16, 2009
    • paulg2uk
      thesnue hi folks.



      how do i upload pictures?

      is it possible to upload pics or do they have to be online somewhere else to be embedded or linked?



      thanks

      thesnue
      • June 16, 2009
    • paulg2uk
      paulg2uk Michael,



      Hi it's a pedal-train 2. I just got some Velcro from my local hardware store and put the 4 strips down on each of the pedal train's sections. Seems to work pretty well except for closing the lid of the case I had to take some of the foam out of the top half of the lid to close the flight case. I'm thinking of relining it with something else cause its pretty bear at the moment.



      I am really pleased with nova I have a g system too which is so heavy when taking it to rehearsals and gigs. i still get those great sounds but now its a bit more portable lol



      Hope that answers your question



      Cheers



      Paul



      Oh and if you are uploading pics u have link and upload them from another site. I use www.photobucket.com



      Hope that helps too



      More photos people lol
      • June 16, 2009
  • mrjones111
    Contributor - Level 1
    2009-06-14
    does any one know if the the finalizer plus converters are top notch? are they better than the digi stuff? i have a the finalizer plus and wonder if they are equal in quality to the stand alone 1000 buck converters.. ( after all the finalizer did cost a bundle! )

    thanks people
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  • jakster
    Contributor - Level 2
    2009-06-14
    I have a new G-System I've been familiarizing myself with and enjoying until this morning, when I attempted to upgrade the firmware in my unit from 2.0 to 3.0 so as to be able to edit presets from my Mac using the Vyzor software.

    I downloaded the upgrade software, connected the G-System to the Mac with the USB cable, and initiated the upgrade process. At the end of the upgrade process, the computer displayed a message that the upgrade had failed and that I should try again. The G-System was displaying a message indicating "firmware burning" so I didn't bother it. However, after several hours this message was still displayed, so I repowered the G-System. The G-System is now dead--the display panel on the floorboard lights up, but no message is displayed--and the upgrade utility does cannot detect the G-System when connected via USB. I've tried repowering several times, disconnecting/reconnecting cables, Cat5 connections, etc., but to no avail.

    I'm coming to the conclusion that I'll need to have the unit serviced, but thought I'd check in here first to ascertain if anyone (Laird?) might have other suggestions before I pack up the system and ship it off to the service center in Canada.

    Thanks for your help and perspective.
    J
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    • jakster
      2SloMoe You could try resetting the unit?



      Power up the unit while pressing and hold the "Filter and Comp"buttons.

      The unit starts counting down. Wait for it. When it is done it will restart it self back to the main page.



      I believe this resets EVERYTHING
      • June 14, 2009
    • jakster
      jakster Thanks. Tried this several times and get the following message:



      AVR Boot v1.01

      0.00/0.00



      Doesn't seem to count down, even when I hold the Filter and Comp buttons for a minute or so during and after power up.



      Any other ideas?
      • June 14, 2009
    • jakster
      jakster Correction, the message on the unit display was:



      AVR Boot v1.01

      0x00/0x00



      Can't detect unit on Mac with USB
      • June 14, 2009
    • jakster
      ratkent I didn't have your specific problem, but I did have a problem with the USB connection between my iMac and my G System. I was using the USB port on the keyboard and was getting all kinds of weird responses and error messages. I then used one of the USB ports on the back of the computer and everything worked fine. Don't know if this will help or if it even applies to your situation but I really feel your pain and I'm just trying to help.



      Good luck.
      • June 15, 2009
    • jakster
      jakster Thanks. I'm using a MacBook Air, so there's only one USB port to try. I guess I could try the MacBook Pro, but I'm not sure that is going to do anything different.
      • June 15, 2009
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