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  • martonious
    Contributor - Level 1
    2008-05-31
    Hi, I used to own the TC 1210 stereo chorus/spacial expander. Unfortunatly I sold this a few years ago. I used the spacial expansion feature constantly. I have tried finding another one of these but it is difficult to say the least. Does TC make another product that has the spacial expansion feature? Thanks Marty
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    • martonious
      snowleopard Hi, Sorry to say, but this was an entirely unique product with how it created and manipulated its effects processing. You may get similar results using the FireworX Fx unit in combination with and Aphex 204 exciter, I have both in my rack but no TC 1210 available to do configuration/audio tests. The uniqueness of the TC1210 is one on the reasons it still commands big bucks on the used market, when they sometimes appear. It would be truly nice to see a replicated "Special Anniversary" version of it (and not a digital synthesis), but I'm not holding my breath.
      • February 18, 2011
  • duckman
    Contributor - Level 2
    2008-05-28
    hi There,

    my name is Arjan and I just bought a Nova system yesterday. Took it the same evening to band rehearsal and it is a great unit!
    I bought it to replace some pedals ( Line 6 Echopark, MXR phase 90,volume pedal,Boss pedal tuner) and to have a pitch shifter/octave and chorus.

    I connected it yesterday like this:
    Gibson flying V>Dunlop 95Q>Carl Martin plexitone>Boss EQ7>TC Nova system>Marshall 6100>1960AV
    Tried my JCM800 2203 too, but the 6100 has a better clean.
    for some songs I need a heavier distortion, but I didn't had the time to mount that on my pedal board yet.

    first impressions:
    - effects quality is great, but the drive is not heavy enough for my band.( I knew this)
    - tuner is fantastic!
    - I notice no signal loss
    - programming requires learning curve, but it's not to complicated.

    I also have a question.
    Right now I have a Roland EV-5 expression pedal, but this doesn't work well. I get a minimum of 70 and a max 0f 75 value as I calibrate.
    Before I go out and spend money on a new expression pedal, any idea why this is happening?
    And if you can recommend a good expression pedal, please let me know.

    Thanks,
    Arjan
    (sorry for the long post, but I wanted to share my thoughts with you)
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    • duckman
      harrysnapperorg Sorry I can't help with your EV-5 but I can recommend the Ernie Ball and EBjr pedals. The 250K versions work the best, but the 25K ones work too.



      I'm using a Yamaha CV-7 which is just awful - I need to get something better!
      • June 3, 2008
    • duckman
      duckman thanks for your reply.



      My mysterious problem is solved after I did a second firmware upgrade.

      The device has some bugs, but this is solved



      I was thinking of getting the Ernie ball too...
      • June 3, 2008
    • duckman
      pchadwic FYI: I grabbed an M-Audio EX-P Expression pedal for $30.00 (planning on getting the TC exp pedal in a few months so I wanted the cheapest functional pedal.)



      The M-Audio works perfectly after calibration. I'm using it to control phaser speed and delay mix. It is plastic obviously and has an integral cable (can't be replaced) but for the price it will do the job.
      • June 22, 2008
    • duckman
      tjborek Resurrecting an ancient post. Question for pchadwic:



      I too have the M-Audio EX-P (brand new) with a v.1.13 Nova System. Although the pedal calibration works perfectly for Whammy pitch shifting in one preset, it's causing presets where it's mapped to Drive Level go jump to full volume with howling feedback and everything. Unacceptable!



      Are you doing anything with the rotary knob on the side of the pedal? Is your switch on the bottom set to M-Audio or Other? Mine is M-Audio.
      • July 25, 2017
    • duckman
      Bmoney another expression pedal question: I read somewhere that there is a bug in the latest firmware that prohibits an expression pedal from being assigned different parameters per preset, ex: Volume in preset 1, and Pitch in preset 2.

      Is this correct? Has anyone experienced this problem or does it really work like it's supposed to? (Different parameters can be assigned to the expression pedal per preset)
      • July 25, 2017
  • Kane
    Contributor - Level 2
    2008-05-15
    Hi, Guys

    I have just got Nova system here (USA) and I was wondering if it can use in another country that use another voltage by use only included adapter? like 220v.

    Or I have to buy seperate one?

    Thank you
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    • Kane
      tore Hi Kane,



      You can use Nova System in 220v countries as well. All you need is a power cord with the proper socket.



      Best,

      Tore
      • May 15, 2008
    • Kane
      cataclysm i live in australia and am currently dealing back and forward with my US dealer to resolve an issue I am having with powering the nova system using australian power.



      ill post a replay as soon as i have a confirmed problem.



      while i first thought this problem was an australian power issue between the different voltages, it turns out it may be a midi error between the TC and my CFX4.



      basically the nova system is 'hanging' or freezing at startup and not powering up the whole board.
      • May 19, 2008
    • Kane
      Kane Yes, At first I read your tread and I was starting to wondering this.



      Thank you for your information !
      • May 20, 2008
    • Kane
      willkimbrough Tore---



      I am about to buy TC Nova System, specifically for all the fly dates I do with Emmylou Harris. So...I can just use the proper plug for each country/continent's voltage, and the Nova System will be fine?



      That sounds fantastic. We are going to Australia and New Zealand in November, so I'm going to buy mine now.



      Cheers and thanks for making such nice gear.



      will kimbrough

      willkimbrough.com
      • October 18, 2012
  • velodoug
    Contributor - Level 2
    2008-05-12
    What patch editors (Windows preferred) do you use to update/backup your patches? What MIDI interface do you use on your computer to facilitate the connection?
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    • velodoug
      Ivan

      velodoug wrote:

      What patch editors (Windows preferred) do you use to update/backup your patches? What MIDI interface do you use on your computer to facilitate the connection?


      I use RealMajor v1.8 Windows based software editor !! And a M-Audio UNO to make the connection !!



      Hope this helps ! I'll PM you the Link !!
      • May 13, 2008
    • velodoug
      velodoug Thanks for the link Ivan!! I'll give it a shot!
      • May 13, 2008
    • velodoug
      leewhit Not very good with computers. I downloaded and unzipped but, could not get the program opened correctly. Windows asked what program to open with. Don't know what to do from here. Could someone please help a dummy?
      • May 15, 2008
    • velodoug
      Ivan

      leewhit wrote:

      Not very good with computers. I downloaded and unzipped but, could not get the program opened correctly. Windows asked what program to open with. Don't know what to do from here. Could someone please help a dummy?


      Double Click the file called "Real_Major"
      • May 16, 2008
    • velodoug
      raven1a Man. I haven't had a chance to set this up until last night. Been programing everything in through the G-Major interface.



      I set this up on my laptop last night. DUDE!!! It ROCKS!!! And it's SO nice for reordering my patches too.
      • May 16, 2008
  • bronz79
    Contributor - Level 2
    2008-05-05
    Hi to all,i've got i strange problem: i use my nova system in the effect loop (serial)
    of my engl powerball,when i engage the compressor i only notice a very little
    difference between the dry sound of my guitar, no matter how i play with the values.
    Your compression is very noticeable insted?
    Thanks.
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    • bronz79
      bronz79 i've tried both in front of my amp and in the effect loop but i can't hear any noticeable difference, it sound so differend from nova dynamics,and i can't get the classic stomp

      box compression sound any ideas?
      • May 7, 2008
    • bronz79
      bronz79 Sorry if i up my thread,but from the TC support i havent recived any true solution.

      It doesn't matter if i connect the nova system in front or in the serial loop the effect

      is the same no audible compression in all the 3 mode:

      percussive,sustain,advanced.

      Just for example here are may setting for the advanced:



      -thresh -20db

      -ratio 2.1:1

      -attack 0,3

      -release 70

      -out gain -11



      i must set the out gainto -11db to compensate the amount of volume caused by increasing

      the threshold so for example if i increase the thresh to -30 i must set the out gain to -18.



      But the problem is that this compressor seems only to affects the volume and not the dynamic.



      i'missing something?anyone have similar problem?
      • May 13, 2008
    • bronz79
      scmaxfield Hello, just bumping; and I too, have noticed mainly the volume change with the comp module...



      Note - I run the unit in the FX-loop of a TSL100 w/ FX Level (on amp) all the way up. I also run it in the loop of an MG250DFX.



      ...along the same lines, i've noticed that the comp either boosts or attenuates (spelling?) the signal depending on the volume (practice vs live) at louder play volumes, the compressor seems to actually lower the signal... at lower play volumes, the comp seems to slightly boost the signal. Kind of annoying, but I just figured I don't know what i'm doing.



      ...also I mainly play w/ distortion so I don't think the comp will be very "dynamic" in that situation...



      dunno... just my 2 cents
      • May 13, 2008
    • bronz79
      jimfitz I noticed the same thing. The compressor doesn't seem to have much impact on the dyamics and or sustain. I also think that the compressor should come before the dist/od pedal. It would be nice if we could program the order of the Nova's pedals. Given it comes after the dist/od pedal, it will tend to squash it. I placed a volume pedal, Keeley compressor, Xotic BB Boost, and a Xotic AC Boost before my Nova in the signal chain and I use the Nova's sustain compressor as an -5db attenuator. I use the Nova's Boost pedal to give me +5db of gain.
      • May 13, 2008
    • bronz79
      bronz79

      jimfitz wrote:

      I noticed the same thing. The compressor doesn't seem to have much impact on the dyamics and or sustain. I also think that the compressor should come before the dist/od pedal. It would be nice if we could program the order of the Nova's pedals. Given it comes after the dist/od pedal, it will tend to squash it. I placed a volume pedal, Keeley compressor, Xotic BB Boost, and a Xotic AC Boost before my Nova in the signal chain and I use the Nova's sustain compressor as an -5db attenuator. I use the Nova's Boost pedal to give me +5db of gain.


      Yes, it seems that the compression block effects only the volume but not the dynamic of the sound,i'm asking if also the g-system and the g-force are afflicted by the same issue.

      I don't think that's is a routing issue 'cause also in front of the amp the compressor is not

      making what i think.

      One mouth ago i've got a nova dynamics,very nice pedal with very audible compression

      but the hiss was too much so i sold my pedals and invest on the nova system,tomorrow

      i'll go to my music shop and i'll try with other nova..i'm hoping is just my sistem.
      • May 14, 2008
  • ohickmott
    Contributor - Level 2
    2008-05-05
    Hi everybody,

    I was just interested in peoples opinions on this one:

    I have a Marshall JMP1 and of-course a G-Major with an EL84 20/20 poweramp, I currently have hocked the G-Major up to the send and return of the JMP1's FX loop and am quite pleased with the result but upon reading the G-Major manual I noticed that TC Electronic recommend going from the output of the preamp into the G-Major and then into the poweramp. Not sure why but this never really occurred to me before :0S I had a play and some of the FX do come across with more depth and character and the tone of the JMP1 seems less affected, to be fair the JMP1's FX loop is pretty far from fantastic!

    I just wondered if there are any of you out there with a JMP1 rig and how you have yours connected up?

    Cheers
    Olly
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      SiDude Hi,



      This is my first post, I've just signed up ! )



      I run my G-Major in the FX loop of my JMP-1, I found it sounded best in the loop (which I can then also switch on and off per patch and kept it out of the signal path) rather than have it after the JMP-1 where as everything goes through it. Also helps if it freezes (though mines only done that twice in two years) as I can change to a patch with the G-Major out of the signal path and no-one will know !



      All this goes into a Mesa Boogie 50/50 into a Marshall x12 cab. I prefer the sound of the 6L6GC tubes with the JMP-1. How do you find the EL84 ?





      Hope this helps.



      Si
      • May 6, 2008
    • ohickmott
      RGR I hav emy G major in the effect loop of the JMP1.. i tried it on theoutputs and could not really tell any difference in the tone to be honest. The reason I prefer it in the loop is that if something goes wrong live, say i blow a fuse/power amp tube or something I can always just run feeds from the Jmp1s amp sim outs to the desk...it sounds cool enough in an emergency.
      • May 18, 2008
    • ohickmott
      Benny

      SiDude wrote:

      Hi,



      This is my first post, I've just signed up ! )



      I run my G-Major in the FX loop of my JMP-1, I found it sounded best in the loop (which I can then also switch on and off per patch and kept it out of the signal path) rather than have it after the JMP-1 where as everything goes through it. Also helps if it freezes (though mines only done that twice in two years) as I can change to a patch with the G-Major out of the signal path and no-one will know !



      All this goes into a Mesa Boogie 50/50 into a Marshall x12 cab. I prefer the sound of the 6L6GC tubes with the JMP-1. How do you find the EL84 ?





      Hope this helps.



      Si


      What do you mean with "also helps if it freezes"?

      I have this issue with my G-Major (it freezes). I connected it how was suggested in the manual (JMP1's outputs to the g-major's inputs, and g-major's outputs to power amp's inputs).

      Do you think if I connect the unit in the FX loop, it won't freeze anymore?

      It sounds strange, but I'll try.



      So... you connected the JMP1's send to the g-major's LEFT input (the right input remains empty), right? and the g-major's outputs to the JMP1's returns.
      • December 2, 2008
    • ohickmott
      raven1a He means that, if you hook the G-Major into the effects loop of the JMP and the G-Major freezes, you can bypass the loop taking the frozen G-Major out of the equation and you will still be able to play through the amp. Connecting it like that won't cause the G-Major to stop freezing. It will just give you a way to bypass it if it does freeze.
      • December 3, 2008
    • ohickmott
      sacerdoth For some reason whenever I hook up my g-major into the fx loop of the jmp-1 I notice a significant loss of gain/volume. Note: even if I set in and out levels to max on the g-major, there's still less volume than the jmp-1 dry (fx bypassed). I'm also using balanced cables that are recommended by tc electronic.

      Can anybody help me with that?
      • January 19, 2009
  • trendkiller83
    Contributor - Level 2
    2008-04-18
    I need a bit of help with how to program my pedal. Ok, I will start by stating what I have. I have a Mesa Dual 3 channel, CFX4, G-Major and a Voodoo Labs Ground Control Pro. I have everything set up fine as to changing channels with or with out effects and such. I am just using the Bottom 4 switches like you would a Line 6 pedal Board. I need help in that I want to Program my pedal board to have the upper switches to for example turn on and off effects as well as enable tuner mute to bypass all by the touch of a foot. I am not sure how to do this with the Ground Control and G-Major. Any to all help would be extremely grateful.
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    • trendkiller83
      More-Cowbell you need teh GCX switcher

      you plug every channel and your tuner

      (unless your using the one on your g-major)

      into 1 buypass loop. and control which loops are

      on with your pedal.



      if that makes sence.
      • April 19, 2008
    • trendkiller83
      trendkiller83 No, I don't need to change the Amps Channels or effects with it. i have that all setup already. I have the Ground Control setup so the Control 4 function is on leaving the 1-8 buttons to be used. I am wondering how you could program those buttons so that you can turn on Deley or whatever effect on or off with the floor board.
      • April 19, 2008
    • trendkiller83
      More-Cowbell oh.. you go into the mod menu on your g-major.

      just look in your manuel and it will tell you..

      first you have to store your preset into the Gmajor

      then you have to tell your pedal to send a cc message

      so it changed the effect.
      • April 20, 2008
    • trendkiller83
      trendkiller83 Awesome! I have finally figured it out. It was easy after tinkering with it for a bit but I now have my setup the way I wanted it.

      I will break it down for anyone else who might not know this...

      Basically you go into the G-Major hit the Edit switch, have your pedal to the 4 preset bank ( if not sure how to do this read your manual), then go to INSTANT ACCESS Now it will have numbers on your left from 1 to 8.

      Select 1 for example and lets say you want it to be your TAP TEMPO on the G-Major.

      You Have 1 set on what ever midi channel your controlling( I have my G-Major on Midi 2 so all the channels from 1 to 8 are midi 2) The you go and select any number you want your presets to be from 0-128. I made my Tap tempo 1, Delay 2, Reverb 3 ect..

      So your screen should look like this...

      1.CH01 CTL001 <----------------------CC message (Any Number your Effect will be)

      ^ ^-----------MIDI Channel

      Pedal Board



      After you set up your numbers and what not you then go to the G-Major and hit the MOD button. From there you can set your certain effects or what ever number you want each footswitch to be or you can do it a simpler way by setting it to "LEARN"

      For Example you Select lets say Delay and you want it on number 6 on your Ground Control Pro Pedal, you hit Learn on Delay and then tap the footswitch 6 on and off and the G-Major gets the number automatically. Then you can move on to Reverb, Pitch, Mute, bypass to what ever you want to be controlled to turn off and on to be put where you want from Numbers 1 to 8.

      And thats it!

      now another thing I found out after doing all of this is that you will have to hit the switch twice to turn off any effect that you have programed to be on in a certain bank.

      For example I have a channel with just Clean amp, Delay and Reverb. Now when I hit the Reverb switch only once nothing will happen until I hit it again to turn it off. Now its not really a set back if you program your channels to have the effects off when you select the channel you have.



      Its really up to you. So use my recent knowledge and go nuts. Any Questions please feel free to ask.



      Also I also found out by setting this up that its best if you use numbers in increments or 10

      For example Delay CC would be 10, Reverb 20, Bypass 30 and so on and so forth.

      Because if you by accident yous the same number on your G0major or Pedal Board you can have it by accident turn on 2 or so effects if you only would want one. But it is all up to you and what you want to be controlled.
      • April 24, 2008
    • trendkiller83
      Gogetter o you mean by " hit edir Switch" on the G-Major?
      • June 5, 2008
  • gdgross
    Contributor - Level 2
    2008-04-15
    I'm not too experienced with modulation effects - I'm mostly just a delay and reverb guy.

    I'd like to cop the flanger tone from Lenny Kravitz's "Are you gonna go my way" using my g-sys. It's meaty and chunky compared to what I'm getting out of the g-sys right now. I messed a little with it last night, and the flanger sound I was getting was kind of thin and electronic sounding in comparison.

    Any advice for thickening things up?

    Thanks!
    Geoff
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    • gdgross
      digitalkettle I checked through the presets last weekend. I thought a couple of them featured reasonable flanger sounds...keep meaning to make a note of the preset effects which are worth stealing.
      • April 15, 2008
    • gdgross
      tomasgunn

      gdgross wrote:

      I'm not too experienced with modulation effects - I'm mostly just a delay and reverb guy.



      I'd like to cop the flanger tone from Lenny Kravitz's "Are you gonna go my way" using my g-sys. It's meaty and chunky compared to what I'm getting out of the g-sys right now. I messed a little with it last night, and the flanger sound I was getting was kind of thin and electronic sounding in comparison.



      Any advice for thickening things up?



      Thanks!

      Geoff


      Sorry for not answering your question directly - I don't have a concrete answer for thickening up that particular part of the song, but for the main riff (omg - almost 15 years ago!) I did an adventurous thing which sometimes worked... and sometimes didn't (highly drummer dependent)

      I set up a delay that repeated once after each bar (that is once every 4 beats). Then I started playing the main riff and alternating between the high and low octaves for every repetition of the riff. This essentially gives you the effect of two guitars playing rather than just an octaved guitar - so, pretty thick. When it works, it's cool - but of course when it doesn't... anyway, it was fun
      • April 16, 2008
    • gdgross
      gdgross Thanks man.



      My band's got two of us geetar players, though, so that isn't really an issue.



      Adventurous idea, though. I I had to do it with my drummer I don't think it would be a problem. He's absolutely rock-solid.
      • April 18, 2008
    • gdgross
      redbud i dialed in a very nice thick flanger tone that i enjoy to noodle around with. this setting sound good in mono through my mesa mark 4 but really shines in stereo. tweek the settings to your liking and enjoy



      Advanced flanger



      speed 100mhz



      depth 20%



      hi cut 14.0 khz



      feedback 43%



      FB cut 10.0 khz



      Ch Dl 4.5 ms



      ratio on



      phase rev on



      mix 50%



      out lev -3
      • April 18, 2008
    • gdgross
      gdgross Thanks bro! I will give this a try when I get home.
      • April 21, 2008
  • gizmo
    Contributor - Level 2
    2008-04-07
    Hi all,

    I was wondering if the G-System could actually control Midi device (I'm thinking of my IPS-33B) with the expression pedal.
    My wish would be to be able to select a preset (say a whammy one or pedal stell) of my IPS-33B and then to control the whammy effect of it from the expression pedal of the G-System.

    Any idea how to get that?

    Many thanks in advance,

    Gizmo
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    • gizmo
      tomasgunn I asked tc support about sending expression midi messages to other devices (in my case the HOG) and got the reply that it's not supported.
      • April 7, 2008
    • gizmo
      Ytolyccuz Hi Guys,



      I'm also considering turunturun's suggestion to use the Midi Solutions Pedal Controller. I'm wondering how I can connect it effectively to the expression pedals since the pedal is going to be on the pedal board and the Midi connections shall be done mostly on the rack. I really want to avoid having midi cables back and forth the pedal board and the rack.



      My question is: How can I get the signal from the expression pedal within the g-system brain? Is there such a way?



      Looking forward to your reply.
      • March 7, 2014
  • Biggredd
    Contributor - Level 1
    2008-03-27
    I keep hearing conflicting stories. I want to use my G major to change all 3 channels on my Mesa Boogie Dual rectifier. Some people have said they used a simple Y connector where as other I've heard you need to buy an Axess electronics CRF4 and there is no way around it. I'm not sure what the proper answer is but I haven't had much luck with simple connections. I also am afraid to try simple set ups since I heard it can ruin the electronics if not properly set up. Getting kind of frustrated here. Any one know one way or another?
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    • Biggredd
      raven1a Here's to offical response from TC Electronics:



      This answer is valid for all these models: Dual and Triple Rectifier, Rectoverb, Lone Star and Lone Star Special, Solo 50, Roadking, Express.



      According to Mesa Boogie Tech dept, these units require an isolated ground connection for each of the rear panel 1/4" external switching inputs.Since Y-Split cables are sharing the ground, they cannot be used from the G-System or G-Major (which output connection is TRS) because they could cause damage to the amp switching network.



      You can still use mono cables from the GMajor / G-System to any of this amp. This will obviously divide by 2 the switching possibilities since only 1 relay per output can be used.



      An other solution is to use a switching device such as AXESS ELECTRONIC CFX4 or MIDI SOLUTION R8 in combination with the G-System. Note that the R8 is midi powered only and requires an adapter available at MIDI SOLUTIONS that can be powered by one of the DC 9V outs of the G-System : The G-System does NOT provide Midi power.



      Other switching devices :



      Nobel MS4, VINTECK (www.vinteck.com ) , RJM Amp Gizmo.



      The Mark series (Mark 2,3 & 4, Quad, Studio Preamp, formula Preamp, V-Twin rack Preamp) can be used with Y-Split cables.
      • March 27, 2008
    • Biggredd
      Biggredd Thanks for the reply. I have read this article quite a few times. The only reason I still question it is because some people on Harmony-central have stated otherwise. For all I know they are not hooked up properly and/or are putting their amp at risk for shortage.



      Sucks because The Axess has been out of stock for a while. And the rest are all crazy expensive.
      • March 28, 2008
    • Biggredd
      jnorris If you do not need to use the solo boost or FX switching, place one mono cable on ch1 and one on ch3 while the amp's control of the channels on the back of the amp is set to footswitch. When the 1st one is on your amp will be in ch1. When both are disabled your amp will default to ch2. When the first one is off and the second one is on your amp will be on ch3. Hope that helps!
      • October 25, 2008
    • Biggredd
      sadlife Hi,

      Ive read all your advices but I still dont know how I should connect my G-major to my MB dual rect to can change all three channels. Please, dont you have any scheme of connecting? And what kind of cables do I need? I know, Im like little child but I need very simple advice......I wouldnt like to destroy my Mesa
      • November 21, 2008
    • Biggredd
      raven1a It's my understand (hopefully, if I'm wrong, someone here will correct me) that the MB dual Rec has 2 1/4" jacks on the back that can be used to control the channels. So, with that in mind, as Jnorris stated, using a stereo to mono cable:



      1. Connect one of the mono connections to Ch1 on the MB.



      2. Connect one of the mono connections to Ch3 on the MB.



      3. Connect the Stereo end of the cable to the relays on the G-Major.



      Hint: An insert cable works perfectly for these connections.



      Now, when both relays off the MB should be on Ch2. When Relay 1 on and Relay 2 is off on the G-Major is on the MB should be on Ch1 or 3 depending on which mono cable you plugged in to which channel on the MB.. When Relay 2 is on and Relay 1 is off, you should be on the other channel.



      Hope this helps.
      • November 24, 2008
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