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  • Kickasscables
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-08-13

    Can this amp use parallel inputs to daisy chain from amp to amp ?

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  • SamuelKarlson
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-08-11

    So I stopped by my sons band and they have a soundcraft board similar to the xair....for recording live shows, they can just pop in a thumb drive into the mixer/snake/router...and it will record or drop the tracks in their.  

    Is it that simple with the xair...i'd love to get some more recent recordings of us..and if its that easy, it'd be nothing to drop the track files into a mixing software to get it where we want it.  

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    • SamuelKarlson
      ChrisJanton

      Not on the XR18 - the USB port is (can be) a 2x2 audio interface or an 18x18 interface.


      I use an iPad running Auria Pro with a Camera Connection Kit - I have a template that records LR and up to 16 channels of audio. Garageband can do this as well. I assume there are simple audio recorders for Android devices as well.


       

      • August 11, 2019
  • artmantommie21
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-09
    what max size thumbdrive will work on a midas m32.
     
    i tried a pny 64gb and that did not work.
     
    any input is greatly appreciated
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    • artmantommie21
      RichardYClark

      Officially 32GB is the maximum size as that is the largest that can be formatted to FAT32 which the X/M32 needs and usually also need to be USB2 not USB3. However many have managed to format larger thumb drives to FAT32 using third party apps.


      However some makes of drive seem to be more reliable than others. So you might have to try a different manufacturer as well as smaller size.

      • August 9, 2019
  • Jumbo
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-08-09

    Using an iPad XAir app.  How can I tell if I’ve set input gain correctly.  I don’t see a “clipping” indicator that would allow me to see the maximum input and then pull back to avoid clipping?

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    • Jumbo
      RichardYClark

      Set the gain so that you get readings of about -12dB into the yellow part of the channel meter.

      • August 9, 2019
  • JimMcLean
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-08

    Hi. I use Voicelive 3 (NOT the extreme), and am in the UK.
    I would like to power my VL3 from a portable battery pack (I've seen videos on Youtube but they are a bit old now).
    Instead of Battery and inverter, does anyone use a small portable battery pack that works with the VL3?

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  • Videoscenes
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-08

    I have a gig coming up and would like to insure that I get max volume from my VL3X to the MLS900. I'll be using ONE XLR from the VL3X for vocal and guitar, and going into ONE input on the MLS900. The MLS900 has 3 inputs, each with its own volume control. I already know that treble and bass should be flat. 

    How would I insure that I'm getting the max volume out of my Extreme??

    Thanks

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    • Videoscenes
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @Videoscenes,
      This should be a cool setup, I've heard good things about the MLS900's.  For the single-XLR connection, ensure that in the VoiceLive's "Setup" menu, on the "Output" tab, that the "XLR Output Mode" is set to "Mono", then you can just use the left XLR output to send summed wet vocals and guitar to your speaker.


      To be sure the VoiceLive is outputting maximum level, on that same "Output" tab in the "Setup" menu, set the "XLR Output" level to "Line Level", and set the switch on the Harbinger's input to "Line" as well.  Also go into the VoiceLive's Mix menu (by tweaking one of the four small knobs below the screen while you're on the Home screen) and check that on the "Main Mix" tab your "XLR Out" level is all the way up to "0dB".


      That's about all there is to it.  Hope the gig goes well!

      • August 9, 2019
    • Videoscenes
      Videoscenes

      Thanks for your reply! Looks like your message went into my spam folder! Finally found it! I set everything per your instructions, and so far so good. Gig is wednesday, so I will have it ready! 


      I have another nagging question for you. I just updated the VL3X to latest available. I noticed that in the notes section if refers to the looper, and that it has some sort of "magic" setting now. I think it was that when you start playing, the looper automatically engages. I haven't been able to figure out how to get that going. I watched videos, but they sort of seem to skim over the setup part. I'd like to start using the looper....but I'm really not very well versed on it, other than it records music and can play back on command. Maybe you can point me towards a video on youtube??? that might help?. Thanks friend, and God Bless!

      • August 12, 2019
    • Videoscenes
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @Videoscenes,
      Very happy to help and I hope the gig went well!


      I have a post here that outlines the features of the latest VL3 build 366 update.  The new AudioCue feature in the looper will automatically start recording your loop once your playing is over a certain volume threshold.  So you can arm the loop first, then ready yourself, and start playing and it'll begin recording when you start playing.  Check out that post for the details, it's a pretty cool little tool!  Cheers.

      • August 16, 2019
  • AdamvanderVoort
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-07

    I am highly highly interested in the iq12 and iq18B

    It's a toss up for this or the EV etx12p and etx18sp..

    Any suggestions?

     

    Would live to be sent links if there are more about the  beyond what I've found. 

    Anybody have experience with them in Comparison to the etx series?

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    • AdamvanderVoort
      GaryHiggins

      @AdamvanderVoort No EV experience but I own the iq12 and 18B's. They sound extremely good. One huge advantage over the EV IF you own M/X32 gear is of course the ultranet connection. All digital system if you desire it. No need for analog connection unless you desire that. (It's either or) I'm about to add a few IQ8's! If I were to offer up a second choice it would be the new 2.2 version of powered speakers by QSC as I have used them and was very impressed, power specs similar to the IQ series.


       


      EDIT: I used QSC 10's for a few stage monitors and they had a full wall of sound including enough low end. Very impressive low end as a matter of fact for 10's. I would strongly consider buying except for the P16 part of the IQ (and I own IQ's already) and the IQ's sound just as good! Price about the same.

      • August 7, 2019
    • AdamvanderVoort
      AdamvanderVoort

      I imagine the iq10's would suffice as stage monitors. I do own an M32R .which is why I was leaning towards iq. But I'm always sceptical of sound without hearing the product. Being in Alaska, I can't demo them. The etx are impressive. They don't boast 3000 watts for their 18 though and are $1600 a piece. But more watts doesn't always mean more loud. 

      • August 8, 2019
  • dhjdhj
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-08-07

    We just arrived in Norway to headline a festival. The organizers provided an X32 Compact and two S16s. We're having trouble getting everything configured, even though we brought and loaded the appropriate scene with us.

    The issue seems to be that one of the S16s is passing input directly to output wthout seemingly any ability of the X32 to stop this from happening. We've turned off absolutely everything --- all faders are off on all inputs, effects, busses, etc.

    We're thinking there must be some way to configure the S16 to do directly I/O but we can't figure out how to turn that off.

    Suggestions would be really welcomed....

     

    Thanks

    D

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    • dhjdhj
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi David @dhjdhj ,


      Welcome to the forum.


      * Make sure the two S16's are in mode 1 and 2 (respectively) - see documentation.


      * On the Routing, AES50 (A or B) depending on which port is connected to the X32, make sure the assignments are not AES50 (A or B) respectively. In other words, if the AES50 cable is plugged into the X32 A port and the AES50 A1-8 is assigned to the first bank of the Routing, AES50 A, that will make those inputs go right back out to the outputs (for an S16 in mode 1).


       

      • August 7, 2019
  • Kimptond
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-08-07
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  • DannyKurywchak
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-08-06

    I have a Midas M32C & DL32 that we always use with all our IEMs (in Stereo) connected to the AUX sends (4 wireless and our drummer is wired).   We have it setup with great mixes until we get a new sound guy that continually plays with gains changing our IEMS all night long.   I decided we had enough and tried tonight to connect our M32C/DL32 to act as FOH and use our DL32 AES50 B to connect to a X32 rack system.   I was able to get it all connected and working however, when testing it during band practice tonight the same issues prior appear that they will still be a problem as the AES50 doesn't allow a complete independant connection between the FOH and IEM Mixer in this case. They both share the gains of FOH which will be a problem again with a sound guy that likes to continually change gains.   Am I doing something wrong?  if not, why would anyone recommend AES50 split between FOH and IEM mixers?  

    My goal is to give my band complete flexibility of EQing each channel to their liking within their IEMS. Right now by using just the M32C/DL32 after FOH is set we can change EQ of just their stereo Bus sends to assist but that's it.   I did purchase a 32 channel split snake this week and haven't tried it yet as I wanted to try the easier solution with AES50 split first.  If everyone agrees that we can never get true independant mixes this way for our IEMs that won't be affected by FOH, is my only solution to use an Anolog split snake?  And if so, what is the best way to give each musician what they want in their IEMs?  I'm willing to work with each musician until the EQ, FX, etc. is to their liking, I know if the drummer likes his kit mixed a specific way in his IEMs everyone gets what he prefers but seems to be the most fair as each gets to choose their own mix of their instrument, correct?

    I would appreciate any pointers on this topic ASAP as I need a solution by this Friday so we can start and end with the same great mix in our IEMS regardless of what FOH does.

    Thanks in advance,  Danny K

     

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    • DannyKurywchak
      DaveMorrison

      Hi @DannyKurywchak 


      If you connected M32c<>X32Rack<>DL33 and only let the Rack have control of the pre-amps, the FOH guy could mess with digital trim without changing the monitor mixes. Using the X32 Rack gives you freedom from FOH's EQ and dynamics processing and gets you 8 (or 9 with LR) Stereo IEM mixes and each performer can control their own mix via an app.

      • August 6, 2019
    • DannyKurywchak
      DannyKurywchak

      Dave, you would be my hero if you can assist me in cofiguring it correctly!  Here's how I have everything setup now.  AES50-A of the M32C going to the AES50-A on my DL32,   AES50 B on the DL32 going to AES50 A of the X32 Rack,  AES50 B of X32 Rack going to AES50 A of the S16.  What needs to change to not allow FOH to control gains on the X32 going forward?  Thanks for your quick response and I really look forward to your next reply!  

      • August 6, 2019
    • DannyKurywchak
      Paul_Vannatto


      @DannyKurywchak wrote:


      AES50-A of the M32C going to the AES50-A on my DL32,   AES50 B on the DL32 going to AES50 A of the X32 Rack,  AES50 B of X32 Rack going to AES50 A of the S16.  What needs to change to not allow FOH to control gains on the X32 going forward? 





      Don't configure it that way. The X32 Rack will never get preamp control because that can only be done via the DL32 A port. Here is how you should setup the interconnectivity mapping


      M32C FOH [B] <-> [A] X32 Rack [B] <-> [A] DL32 [B] <-> [A] S16 (mode 3)


       


      To transfer the stagebox inputs to the M32C, you need to do the following in the X32 Rack


      Routing, AES50 A 


      * Outputs 1-8 -> AES50 B1-8


      * Outputs 9-16 -> AES50 B9-16


      * Outputs 17-24 -> AES50 B17-24


      * Outputs 25-32 -> AES50 B25-32


      * Outputs 33-40 -> AES50 B33-40


      * Outputs 41-48 -> AES50 B41-48


       


      Since the X32 Rack is closest to the stageboxes, by default it will control the gains and phantom of the DL32 and S16 preamps. Just make sure none of the Setup, preamps, HA Remote settings are enabled.


       

      • August 6, 2019
    • DannyKurywchak
      DannyKurywchak

      Thank you for the clarification Paul.  A couple quick follow-up questions in you don't mind;


      1.  So all instruments plug into the DL32 and if we need more than 32 channels I would continue with Channel 1 of the X32Rack which would be channel 33 now, giving us a total of 48 channels?


      2.  All of our IEMS would go into the DL32 Aux sends and if more aux sends are ever needed would we use Aux 1 of the X32 Rack which would now be 17?


      3. Does this give us full independent control between FOH and IEM Mixer?  Acting just like using a analog Split snake? any issues to be aware of?


      4.  I noticed in the routing instructions there's no mention of routing beyond 48 channels but with DL32, X32Rack and S16 thats a total of 64 inputs. Is this a limitation or is it because you mention the S16 as Mode 3 (which I need to look up what that is   )   If so, what would the S16 be used for?


      Thanks again for the quick response!

      • August 7, 2019
    • DannyKurywchak
      Paul_Vannatto


      @DannyKurywchak wrote:


      1.  So all instruments plug into the DL32 and if we need more than 32 channels I would continue with Channel 1 of the X32Rack which would be channel 33 now, giving us a total of 48 channels?


      Not necessarily. It all depends what you assign on the Routing, home (Inputs) screen of either console (M32C or X32 Rack). These inputs are assigned in banks of 8, plus the Aux In Remap (2-6). Available channels are completely different than how many channels you can mix at any one time (total is 40 - 32 standard channels, 6 Aux, USB player (x2)). In your setup, you actually have 88 available inputs (including 32 from card). 


       


      2.  All of our IEMS would go into the DL32 Aux sends and if more aux sends are ever needed would we use Aux 1 of the X32 Rack which would now be 17?


      The DL32 does not have Aux sends. It has 16 XLR outputs that are assigned on the X32 Rack, AES50-B screen - first 2 banks of 8. If you also want to use the X32 Rack XLR outs (x8), that would be assigned on the Routing, XLR Out screen. If you want to use the S16 (in mode 3 - see instructions) XLR outputs, that would be assigned on the Routing, AES50-B screen - third bank of 8.


       


      3. Does this give us full independent control between FOH and IEM Mixer?  Acting just like using a analog Split snake? any issues to be aware of?


      For the most part, yes. But only one console can control the preamps (gain and phantom) at any one time. By default, the console closest to the stagebox controls the preamps. The eco-system can be configured to provide digital trim (+-18 db) to all consoles (Setup, preamps, HA Gain Split). But that would mean that the console controlling the actual gain and phantom would have to do it on the Setup, preamps screen, not on the individual channel, config screens.


       


      4.  I noticed in the routing instructions there's no mention of routing beyond 48 channels but with DL32, X32Rack and S16 thats a total of 64 inputs. Is this a limitation or is it because you mention the S16 as Mode 3 (which I need to look up what that is   )   If so, what would the S16 be used for?


      The AES50 protocol is limited to 48 bidirectional (both ways) channels at 44 and 48 khz. On the X32 Rack, the XLR jacks on the back are named Local inputs. The S16 can be used for 16 more available inputs and 8 available outputs. One advantage of using multiple stageboxes is to have them closer to the actual inputs which helps reduce the cable spaghetti (and trip hazzard). For example if the DL32 was placed stage front and the S16 was placed stage rear. If you only had 16 inputs at stage front and 16 inputs stage rear, you could assign the first 2 banks of 8 to the DL32 first 16 channels and the 3rd and 4th banks to the S16 inputs. I use an SD16 and SD8 in this manner and assign the 4th bank to the X32 Rack first 8 channels.





       

      • August 7, 2019
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