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    harrisonfore92
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-04-06

    Hey there, I just had a question about the behringer “wing”.

    Is it able to share the Midas DL32 stage box with a M32 C? For instance the M32 C will be used for monitors and the Wing will be used for front of house split digitally via AES.

    thanks! 

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    • harrisonfore92
      Paul_Vannatto Yes you sure can, just like you would with multiple M32
      • Apr 6
    • harrisonfore92
      GaryHiggins A Behringer Wing, a DL32 and an M32C walk into a bar and come out lifelong friends!
      • Apr 7
    • harrisonfore92
      KevinMaxwell I guess I will piggyback on this question and ask a few about the same basic thing.

      If I have an M32 as a monitor console and a DL32 on stage and a WING at FOH I understand that there are a couple of different ways of wiring it up. What are the advantaged of the different ways? One place I have worked that has that basic setup except instead of a WING they have an M32 at FOH. And they have the DL32 AES50A connected to the house console AES50A and the DL32 AES50B connected to the Monitor console AES50A. I am not sure how they had the outputs configured. I think they had the FOH console using the DL32 outputs to the house speakers and the M32 Monitor console (XLR) outputs directly feeding the monitor speakers. But what is the difference if you have the DL32 connected to just the monitor M32 and then that connected to the FOH console. Would that be DL32 AES50A to the M32 AES50A and the AES50B of the DL32 to AES50A on the WING at FOH. Then how do you get the outputs to the House speakers on the DL32 and the Monitor outputs from the M32 to the Monitor speakers. BTW in this example all of the speakers are powered from Amps on stage.

      Now in the OP (original posters) question it might be more like the setup I am thinking about. If I had a WING at FOH and an M32 at Monitor position without a DL32, since a DL32 and an M32c would basically be equal to an M32. I assume I would just hook the 2 up AES50A on stage to the AES50A at FOH. So the question that brings up is how do I route the outputs of the WING to the house speakers and the outputs of the M32 to the Monitor speakers? And actually in my case I would want to send the outputs from the WING to the AES/EBU output on the M32 and at least one output of the WING to an XLR output on the M32. The AES/EBU and the XLR would go to a DSP for the house speakers that I would move from FOH to the stage for this setup.
      • Apr 7
      • A Behringer wing a dl32 and a M32c walk into a bar...
        GaryHiggins Just a few other tidbits...the DL32 and S32 are the only 2 X/M32 stageboxes that allow the inputs to pass from both the A and B sides of it, the caveats in so doing Paul already stated.


        With the A/B ports used to each mixer: From the B side of the DL32, any aes50 ch's sent from the Monitor position mixer to FOH (and then on to the DL) are shifted up a whopping 32 ch's. That is because the inputs of the DL itself take up the first 32 ch's to FOH as aes50a 1-32. Technically you could still send outputs to the DL from the monitor mixer position but only the first 16 aes50 ch's will make it and those 16 will be seen at FOH as aes50a 33-48. You could have the FOH mixer relay aes50a 33-48 to the DL XLR outputs or (parts of them)

        Hooking up in the traditional way, that is daisy chained, is likely the easier way IF you really need the monitor mixer to control outputs.

        EDIT: Forgot one other drawback in doing it like the above, it will put those same 16 ch's from the monitor mixer at the DL32 ultranet port, perhaps not an issue but it could be.
        • Apr 7
    • harrisonfore92
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Kevin,

      Gary and I did not go further in our response, since the OP question was "is it possible". To answer your question, you need to understand how the DL32 works, particularly with its AES50 B port. Only the console connected to its A port has access (control) to the input preamps (gain and control) and the outputs. The console connected to the B port only has access to the input signals. What that means is that the B port console cannot send outputs to the DL32 and signals from FOH (eg. talkback) cannot be passed through the DL32.

      The other setup with the monitor console in between the FOH and DL32 is much more flexible with signal routing, using the monitor console Routing AES50 along with the new User Out patching. Also preamp control (gain and phantom) can be assigned to either console.
      • Apr 7
    • harrisonfore92
      KevinMaxwell Thank you Gary and Paul. Now I just need to gather all of this equipment together and start to play with the different configurations. I will probably also bring along my SMAART system and test to see if there are any measurable differences and to see if there is any different propagation delay results with the different setups.
      • Apr 8
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    Flo1234rin
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-04-06

    Hi,

    Please help me find the behringer power supply for the XENYX 1202FX sound mixer.

    Thank you.

     

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    • Flo1234rin
      KyleJohnson Hello, Kyle with Music Tribe here. For parts ordering please click on Support at the top of the page and then submit a Spare Parts ticket.
      • Apr 6
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    andyp13
    Contributor - Level 3
    2021-04-06

    Does anyone know how to name the groups in the DP48 please, there’s no mention of this in the manual and I can’t find any info on the internet, seems no one really knows?
    Iv given up asking about how to rout the DP48 via the X32 so it can be used for IEM as again no help is available and no documentation is available... I get all the P16 channels in the DP48 as well as other chans - so when it looks like there’s 32 channels playing it’s in fact 16 as everything is doubled, but no one seems to know why this happens.
    I also select group 4 and use the pan and the instrument on group 3 is panned and nothing on group 4 is altered, again no one seems to know why? If anyone can help please please please let me know...Iv had this 4 months and it’s unusable...doesn’t unfortunately come close to a P16.
    If you can help or point me to some YouTube vids etc.. please email me as this site is to slow to use and I probably will never see this post again.

    [email protected]

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    • andyp13
      Paul_Vannatto Regarding group names, there are 2 ways to name groups. They can be named using the X32 Library, AES50 screen. Once named in the left list, the DP48 needs to be put in slave mode (Setup, Remote), then broadcast to the appropriate AES50 port (A or B).

      The other method is to create a file called names.csv and use a text editor to create one line in that file with the group names (8 characters max per name) delimited by commas. For example:
      JohnVox,PaulVox,RingoVox,Guitar1,Guitar2,Keys,Bass,Drums
      Then save this file in the DP48M folder of the SD card
      Insert the SD card into the slot in the back of the DP48, then goto the Setup, Group Names (last screen) and press the Select/Edit encoder.
      • Apr 6
    • andyp13
      Paul_Vannatto Regarding the routing, the best way to solve that is to export your scene to a file, save it to the cloud (eg. Google Drive, Dropbox, etc.) and share the link in your next post. That way we can have a look at your current routing and better advise. Otherwise we would be hunting in the dark, and my crystal ball doesn't work very well.
      • Apr 6
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    Algons0
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-04-06

    Could anyone help me find the pc mixing software that is supposed to be included with this mixer?

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    CoffeeLove
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-04-06

    A little help please

    So strange, went from an X18 to an XR18 and can't figure out how to get a "post fader" signal at channel 16 change volume/output for bus 6 (fader does nothing). That is, I get increased signal by adusting the main fader for bus 6, and the channel when bus 6 is selected, but not through adjusting the channel 16 fader, which I had previously on the X18. I want to be able to control it on the Bus itself, and the channel 16 main slider where the kick mic is plugged in (not going through mains L/R, just the Bus). My signal is weak, and the powered sub normally kicks hard.

    Any help would be great

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    • CoffeeLove
      RexBeckett Hi CoffeeLove, here's how to do it using XAir-Edit:

      Select the channel (16) and open the Sends tab. Set the signal-tap for Bus 6 to Post Fader. See attached screenshot.

      If you don't want channel 16 in the Main LR mix, turn it off in the channel's Main tab by clicking the LR button. See second screenshot.
      • Apr 6
      • How to get main channel fader to also control Aux/Bus Output? For Kick Drum
        CoffeeLove O my goodness, that seems easy enough. I was already on that screen.when I turned of the sub to mains L/R, should have seen the post fader option, my bad.. Thanks for your help. Rodney
        • Apr 6
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    N1Ckp
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-04-06

    Hello. I recently purchased at Midas Vidas 320 desk and I love it. However, to improve longevity of this beauty I would like an EPS 1200 but cannot find one online. Seeking any help here if possible. Does Midas have any back stock of discontinued products they would sell ?

    Thanks,

    Nick 

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    • N1Ckp
      Nigel67 Hi N1Ckp. Please contact our spares team and they will be able to advise on the stock availability of a psu. This can be done by clicking on the support tab at the top of the page. A new window will open. Scroll down and click on the Spare Parts tab and submit a ticket. The only other option would be to post on some of the Midas FB forums and see if anyone has a second hand one. Try 'Long Live Midas Analogue Consoles'. Hope this helps.
      • Apr 5
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    Mike7300
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-04-05

    I understand this is wired meaning it's connected to the X32 Rack with a Cat5.   But do my ear phones need to be directly plugged into the P16 or do I plug some sort of device into the P16 which allows me to be wireless? For instance I noticed my ear phones don't even fit into the "Phones" Jack on the P16.  Sort of confused about that.

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    • Mike7300
      GaryHiggins Either headphones plugged in directly (with the correct adapter) or the P16 output is connected to a wireless device and the in ear piece communicates with that. A third option would be to plug the p16 into a powered monitor.
      • Apr 5
    • Mike7300
      Mike7300 What would be an example of the P16 connected to a wireless device that the in ear communicates with? If I want to go wireless I’m trying to figure out if I should get this or better off with say a sennheiser G4.
      • Apr 5
    • Mike7300
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Mike, on the back of the P16 are three 1/4" jacks. The one on the far right (Phones) is a stereo jack that will take a 1/4 stereo plug that is typically on headphones. If you have earbuds with 1/8" plug, you would need to get a 1/8" to 1/4" (3.5mm to 6.35mm) adapter. If you wish to get a wireless transmitter (such as the Sennheiser G4) you would plug into the other two 1/4" mono jacks on the back of the P16, which would feed the 2 inputs (combo jack) of the G4.
      • Apr 5
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    EmanuelMorales
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-04-05

    Hello everyone! Quick question yesterday I finally set up the Wing (FOH) with the Midas DL32 here's my question how I can set up the P-16 and sidefields on the stage? My old set up was Wing (FOH) and the X32 as a stage box. 

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    • EmanuelMorales
      Paul_Vannatto You would assign the signals you want to go to the P16 (from the DL32 Ultranet port) to the AES50 33-48. Regarding the "sidefields", please explain exactly what you want with them.
      • Apr 5
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    NeilMoore
    Contributor - Level 1
    2021-04-05

    I love the Flow 8. I have Downgraded/Sidegraded from an XR18 as I am a solo vocalist running backing tracks and lighting control from a laptop. The number of unused inputs on the XR18 seems a waste. The only issue I have is that the Tap Tempo using the midi command doesn't appear to be consistent and sometimes misses the desired tempo by between 1 and 3 bpm. For reference, I usually fire 4 instances of the Tap midi command to set the tempo.

    I would love for Behringer to add the ability to use a midi command to trigger an exact bpm. Would this be possible?

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    • NeilMoore
      DavidKnighton Hello NeilMoore,
      I will gladly put this request with with FLOW 8 developer team. As always, keep an eye out for firmware updates and check the release notes to see what features are being added.
      • Apr 5
      • Flow 8 - Tap Tempo over midi
        NeilMoore Many thanks David.
        • Apr 6
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    Bullworkz
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-04-04

    Hello,

    Proud new owner of a GoXLR.  Opened the box and the only power adapter plug included was a European/UK version.

    I don't want to return this unit but going to be forced to unless someone can take care of this.

    Thanks,

    Jim

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    • Bullworkz
      Nigel67 Hi Jim. I can only apologise for the inconvenience. Please contact the shop that you purchased the unit from and ask them to supply the correct adapter or replace the unit with another one which does have the correct adapter. Many thanks. However, if you are in the USA for example and you purchased the unit from a European/UK seller, then the unit would not have included a USA plug adapter and your best option would be to purchase something like a travel adapter.
      • Apr 4
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