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    balky
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-06-27
    M32 / X32 DCA and SOLO | Digital Mixers

    Here what I noticed.

    If  you have say several channel in DCA group and press MUTE on DCA, the mute buttons on controlled channels blink.

    You expect the same behavior when SOLO on DCA is pressed... NOPE.  It only lights up on DCA.  

    Also, when you MUTE DCA GROUP and solo it, you cannot hear anything UNLESS you disable MUTE SYSTEM  "DCA Groups" in CONFIGURTATION.  and the flaw of doing so is that now you cannot see if the channels are muted.  MUTE is lit only on DCA channel.

    Quite weird behavior.  NOt sure if it has been this way always, but thois is how it is now.

     

     

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    • balky
      GaryHiggins Mute System settings

      I believe the following to be true…

       Hard Mute:
       
      If the Hard Mute box is checked: If you mute an input ch when the hard mute box is checked, that ch can only be unmuted by the same main ch section mute button. If you mute an input ch and that ch is also part of a mute group, unmuting by the mute group button it belongs to WILL NOT override the actual ch mute itself. The muted input ch remains muted everywhere it's used, mixer wide.
       
      If the hard mute box is unchecked:
      If you mute an input ch, and that ch is also part of a mute group, you can then mute and unmute that ch with the mute group button even if you muted the actual input ch itself as a separate process, an individually muted input ch will follow the mute group mute/unmute action.
       
      DCA Mute:
       
      If the DCA mute box is checked:
      It mutes every ch that's part of the DCA group-both at the input ch and at the bus, it's the 'hard mute' of dca world. All ch's that are part of that DCA will be muted everywhere mixer wide if the DCA mute button is engaged.
       
      With the DCA mute box unchecked:
      If an input ch belongs to a DCA group, and the DCA is muted, ONLY the sends to mains are muted NOT the bus sends. This is the setting to use to allow monitors to remain active while FOH ch's remain muted. It's the 'soft mute' of DCA world.
      • Jun 27
    • balky
      balky Gary, thanks. HARD mute works with mute groups only. I am not using any. And DCA mute works great. My question is 95% about DCA vs SOLO. Pressing solo on any channel when it is MUTE, lets you hear the channel. When you press SOLO on dca group, you cannot hear anything if the same dca group is muted. But if you uncheck DCA MUTE in configuration, then solo works as expected even if pressed on muted DCA. But the trade off is - pressing mute on DCA does not blink all mute channels.
      • Jun 27
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    MarkNorgren
    Contributor - Level 3
    2021-06-24
    M32R in Direct Sunlight | Digital Mixers

    Question about heat.  We had two gigs on Saturday.  The first gig was on a stage that had a roof. However, by 2:30pm the sun was around enough on the roof, that the sun was shinning direct on the board.  I had my iPhone on the table that shut down because of the extreme heat.  We got done playing at 5:00pm and the board was extremely hot.  Packed up and went to the next gig, at 8:00pm the board wa still hot!  All went fine and the board performed like a champ.  I can try and keep it out of the direct sunlight, but sometimes, just not possible.  Has anyone encountered problems with the sun?  I think next time I will put the hard cover over the top, just to keep the direct sun off the board.  Other ideas or thoughts about the sun and the board?

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      Dale_M Thanks for your post, we normally check for these type of issues during the research and development stage and often the middle east temperatures which are some of the most extreme are a consideration. We have historically had no reports of any M32's failing due to excess sunlight so hopefully this gives you some reassurance.
      • Jun 26
    • MarkNorgren
      MarkNorgren I appreciate that Dale. I am really enjoying my M32R and it has been very reliable!
      • Jun 27
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    charlesstrick
    Contributor - Level 3
    2021-06-21
    gain pad | Digital Mixers

    Is there a way to pad a input channel on the m32 ?

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    • charlesstrick
      Paul_Vannatto Which inputs are you using, the XLR or Aux In and what source do you have that requires additional padding? The preamps in the XLR jacks have a -12 to +60 db gain range and the Aux In inputs have a -18 to 18 db digital trim which should suffice for most input signals. If you have something like a speaker signal, you could use a DI (such as the Behringer DI100) with its two 20db pads.
      • Jun 21
      • gain pad
        charlesstrick inputs are on my dl16 xlr my problem is always a keys player that keeps turning up his gain on his keyboard to boost his combo amp to the point of clipping my preamp with gain all the way down. I try to explain what he is doing to the input, that helps for about one song. won't use a floor wedge never have that problem with female key players
        • Jun 21
    • charlesstrick
      Paul_Vannatto The Behringer DI100 has two 20db pads, which in theory can drop speaker output level to mic level. If the keyboard output is stereo, get 2 of them. The other solution is to tell the band to get a replacement keyboardist (yup, I've done that).
      • Jun 21
    • charlesstrick
      charlesstrick thanks Paul , Next time i will suggest the hot looking female replacement option,
      • Jun 21
      • gain pad
        Paul_Vannatto Maybe that's the problem - she's too hot - output signal and otherwise...
        • Jun 21
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    kennylaw
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2021-06-21
    Midas M32 setup Daw control | Digital Mixers

    I had a bad card and had it replaced... I can't get it to record right now... Vocals are super low and I swithed xlr cables tried everything... Please help me reset to Daw control and routing... Running  Midas M32 and Studio One pro 5

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    • kennylaw
      DavidKnighton Hello kennylaw,
      Best to submit a SUPPORT ticket for this one, as there is sure to be lots of messaging back and forth. Click the SUPPORT link at the top of the page and submit a TECH SUPPORT inquiry.
      • Jun 21
    • kennylaw
      kennylaw

      Thank you very much...
      • Jun 21
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    TroyKrueger
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-06-20
    Scene parser - fader level | Digital Mixers

    I want to take a fader out of the main bus ( mono center and main stereo) without having to express a fader level. Is this possible? 
    currently the following works but only while expressing a fader level:

    /ch/17/mix ON  -4.3 ON +0 ON -3.0

    the -4.3 is the fader level, it works when the fader level is in the string, it does not Mt work without the fader level expressed.

    I want to have snippets that will take certain faders out of the main stereo bus. And other snippets that put them back in the main stereo bus, but not having to 'declare' a fader level.

    I appreciate any feedback. 

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    • TroyKrueger
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Troy, standard snippets and scenes generated by the console or Edit uses the multi-value OSC command lines. These can be replaced by their single-value commands, which are fully documented by Patrick in his X32 OSC Protocol document.

      For that particular line, it can be replaced by the following OSC single-value commands (see page 26)
      /ch/17/mix/on ON
      /ch/17/mix/fader -4.3
      /ch/17/mix/st ON
      /ch/17/mix/pan +0
      /ch/17/mix/mono ON
      /ch/17/mix/mlevel -3.0

      For your particular snippet, simply use the /ch/17/mix/st (for the main stereo) and the /ch/17/mix/mono (for the mono center) commands
      • Jun 20
      • Scene parser - fader level
        TroyKrueger My Scene Parser User Manual only goes to page 25. ?? Don't see a 26
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    • TroyKrueger
      Paul_Vannatto Patrick's document is included in the Documents folder of Scene Parser or can be found on Patrick's website here:
      https://sites.google.com/site/patrickmaillot/x32
      • Jun 20
    • TroyKrueger
      Paul_Vannatto Hey Troy, I had to go to the notification to see your responses and questions, since they don't show up in the standard view in this "new fangled" forum.

      I meant page 26 in Patrick's document. The link is in the second full paragraph on his website. Here is the link to the actual document:
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Snbwx3m6us6L1qeP1_pD6s8hbJpIpD0a/view
      • Jun 22
    • TroyKrueger
      Paul_Vannatto I just realised that I had not included Patrick's document in the Document folder that comes with Scene Parser. I will do that in the next release of Scene Parser.
      • Jun 22
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    ambi731
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-06-17
    Midas m32c in shallow rack | Digital Mixers

    I am thinking about purchasing an M32c and I would love to put it in an skb shallow rack case, but I am having trouble figuring out if it will fit, has anyone done this before that can shed light? Pictures would be amazing, here is the rack case I am talking about. . .

    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/1SKBR6S--skb-1skb-r6s-roto-molded-shallow-rack-case

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    • ambi731
      DwayneAasberg Ambi,

      We have an M32C but it is not handy to measure. We have it installed in a standard 19" rack. However the MG user documentation specs show the M32C as 11.8" deep, so I think the case you propose will be too shallow. If the documentation is accurate (likely) you will need a case deeper than 12" plus connectors (4").

      I will be able to snap pix of our install tomorrow.

      D
      • Jun 17
    • ambi731
      DavidKnighton Hello ambi731,
      As Dwayne suggests, you'll want to consider whether you'll have cables hanging out the rear of the rack or permanently installed. If you want to keep the cables permanently in the rack, then you'll want to consider a deeper rack to accommodate the bulky connectors, especially if you plan on transporting the rack from gig to gig.
      • Jun 17
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    avmt
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-06-16
    How to rearrange dynamics | Digital Mixers

    Hello There,
    I would like to know how to rearrange the dynamics on the M32 Digital mixers so that EQ comes before compression or compression comes before EQ. The Wing board gives me that option and wondering how this can be achieved on the M32 and X32 digital boards

    THanks,

    Rich

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      Paul_Vannatto You would do that on the channel strip Dynamics screen. Assign either Pre or Post EQ.
      • Jun 16
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      avmt

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    • avmt
      avmt

      Thanks, that resolved it
      • Jun 16
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    lp11
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-06-14
    M32 USB Recording | Digital Mixers

    I am attempting to record a speaker via thumb drive through the M32, but I am having trouble with recording the whole session. I learned I didn't have the usb formatted to FAT, so I took care of that and the problem was solved short-term, but it started doing the same thing as before. At some point during the speaker's sessions, the system will just stop recording on its own and when I look at the file, it says there is no data on it and it was created December 31st, 1969 at 7pm. I have over 100 free gigs on the usb, so storage isn't an issue and I'm hesitant to say the issue is the size of the recording since the time it shuts off varies and I have the usb properly formatted. 

    Any ideas and help would be greatly appredciated. 

    Thank you!

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    • lp11
      Paul_Vannatto The date/time issue of the file is because the date/time on the M32 is not set. The best way to do that is by using the M32-Edit. Go to Setup, Mixer, bottom right corner - press Sync Mixer button. If the M32 doesn't keep the time, select the OnConnect checkbox.

      If you have 100+Gb free on the USB stick, it means that you are using a 128Gb or bigger. I would suggest using a 32Gb or smaller formatted to FAT32 (since that size is the official max size). With a 32Gb USB stick, you should have room for about 40 hours of recording time available.
      • Jun 14
    • lp11
      DavidKnighton Hello Ip11,
      Check the time/date on the mixer to start. Generally speaking, if the recording shows anything but the actual time/date, then there may be a problem with the system battery. As for recordings, I would forego a large thumb drive in place of a smaller one. 32GB should be more than sufficient for any recording. The FAT32 format will store files up to 2GB (roughly 2 hours of record time) before creating a new file automatically. I would suggest that whatever thumb drive you're using is probably not up to the task. I recommend using the Patriot Supersonic XT 32GB thumb drive. I've tested these in many scenarios, and have recorded upwards of 30 hours overnight without issue.
      • Jun 14
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    davideduarte
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2021-06-11
    M32 service request under 10y warranty | Digital Mixers

    Hi,

    I have an M32 with a dead fader. After reaching Midas support and since the product was bought online (Thomann.de) in a different country (I'm in Portugal), I was informed to request the support through Thomann, which I did.

    Just got the answer saying that Thomann only offers a 3y warranty and since it was bought in 2016, they cannot do anything.

    So before going into a possible endless ping pong, has anyone faced a similar situation? 

    Cheers, 

    Davide

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    • davideduarte
      GaryHiggins Midas M32 is under 10 year warranty, a dealer can't just arbitrarily shorten it by 7 years. You should still be covered till 2026! I would start the ping pong myself. Call them and be VERY insistent. Better yet MAYBE use the support link above and create a repair ticket.
      • Jun 12
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    davep54
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-06-08
    m32c monitor control | Digital Mixers

    I have an m32c and am using it with a dl32 and x32 and a sd8. I am wondering how to get the level control for the monitor out on the m32c for que wedge on the master fader. When i select that option in the monitor tab it doesn't do anything. When I use that same function on the x32 it works. I think this a question for Paul Vannatto

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      Paul_Vannatto Hi Dave, what app are you using to control the M32C?
      • Jun 8
      • m32c monitor control
        davep54 M32 edit on pc
        • Jun 8
      • m32c monitor control
        davep54 Version 3.2
        • Jun 8
    • davep54
      DavidKnighton Hello davep54,
      I'm not 100% certain, but check the MONITOR LEVEL setting. Even if using the Mains fader, the monitor level needs to be up because the output still passes through that setting. On the actual mixers, there is a dedicated analog control for this, but since the M32C has no dedicated control, you must use the control in the EDIT window.
      • Jun 8
    • davep54
      davep54 Yep Already did that and it does change the level out of the monitor out but when I click on use master fader it doesnt do anything, makes no difference when I try to control volume from master fader. the only control I have of the monitor output is the actual monitor level control. I'm using this console to run monitors for a festival and would like to not have to open another screen just to control my Q wedge level. and since my x32 can do this why cant M32C. same system but I'm sure i'm just missing that one button as always when something dosent work.
      • Jun 8
    • davep54
      Paul_Vannatto Sorry Dave. I had a recording session with a church group and just got home. I believe that "Use Master Fader" setting changes only the physical console master fader, such as on an X32/M32 that has physical faders, not applicable for the M32C, X32 Core or X32 Rack.
      • Jun 8
    • davep54
      davep54 Thanks for the thoughts. Kinda sucks I was pretty sure this time I didn't miss anything. I just find it hard to believe that it is that way.
      • Jun 8
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