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  • New
    2020-11-20

    Hello,

       I recently purchased and installed the X- Live expansion card and installed into a the X32 Compact. Seems to be working fine (although I have yet to put it through a 'real world' test). My question is this: to conserve SD card space, I selected 16 channels as the option for recording inputs (as opposed to 32, which given that I don't have a 32 channel board, wouldn't make sense). HOWEVER, I realized that I had a few aux input channels being used, and want to capture them as well. My question is: Is it possible to record aux inputs (I would think it would be) and if so, do you have to select the 32 channel recording option, so you can inclued the aux inputs for recording? Hopefully that question makes sense, and thanks! 

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    • Mark Letalien
      Rex Beckett Hi Mark, the tracks recorded on the SD card are set on the Routing -> Card tab. Using the User Out patching in console firmware V4.xx, you can select Aux inputs along with other local or AES50 inputs. You would only need to record 32 tracks on the SD if you have more than 16 active channels (normal + Aux).

      Let us know if you need help setting this up.
      • Nov 20
      • X-Live Question
        Mark Letalien Hi Rex, First off, thanks for the quick reply. So, here is where I am confused, and not sure how configure. What I would like to do is record the first 14 XLR inputs and then aux inputs 1 and 3; however, I cannot see how I could do that given the options in the Routing>Card screen. It seems like users only have the option to select 8 channels from column 1-8 and 8 channels from column 9-16, which would take all 16 channels, not allowing the ability to select the two desired aux inputs without selecting 32 tracks from the SD REcording menu in the SETUP>Card screen. Does that make sense? Thanks for your time! ML
        • Nov 20
      • X-Live Question
        Mark Letalien So to make a long story short, I think I will need help doing this....sorry and thanks!! ML
        • Nov 20
    • Mark Letalien
      Rex Beckett This is where the User patching in firmware V4.xx comes into play. It allows you to circumvent the restrictions of the block-of-eight routing. I have attached screenshots (from X32 Edit) of the patching to achieve what you want. It can also be done directly on the console.The User Out patching creates two eight-channel blocks of signals consisting of local inputs 1-14 , Aux 1 and Aux 3. These blocks are then used in the Routing -> Card tabs.
      • Nov 20
      • X-Live Question
        Mark Letalien Thanks Rex! Okay, stupid question: Will doing this in any way affect the output of channels tp the mains? I need to be careful that I am not inadvertently causing an issue come show time. I don't want to any way affect the routing in regards to how the sound is coming from channels to the mains/FOH. Thanks for your help and patience!
        • Nov 20
      • X-Live Question
        Rex Beckett There are no stupid questions, Mark. Routing in the X32 world can be very confusing. I can assure you that the routing I have suggested will not interfere with the console channel inputs or main outputs. If it would help you to be sure, export your current scene and upload it to a file share site (e.g. Google Drive) and post a sharing link.
        • Nov 20
    • Mark Letalien
      Mark Letalien Thanks Rex, here it is! https://www.dropbox.com/s/x4gp0rui8rf9llk/scene1.scn?dl=0 So, speaking of no stupid question :), when you save the routing like you showed me, it is saved per scene? So each scene could have its own level of routing even at that level? Also, as an FYI, based on your instructions, i changed it up a bit.....aux 1 is going to 5 and aux 3 is going to 16....please let me know if you think this is right. Thanks!
      • Nov 20
      • X-Live Question
        Mark Letalien Hi Rex, after making the changes, I can see on the board itself that these changes have taken place. Pretty cool. I guess one the things I don't understand, especially looking at this, is how does the board know to send this routing to the card? Should 'Category' have 'Card' selected? Not sure how that works....great board, but LOTS under the hood. Thanks! ML
        • Nov 20
    • Mark Letalien
      Rex Beckett Hi Mark, I can see from your scene file that you have set up the User Out patching. What you have not done is to route the patched blocks to the Card. On the console, this is done on the Routing -> Card page. Encoder 1 selects the source of Card outputs 1-8 so scroll down and select User Out 1-8. Use encoder 2 to scroll down and select User Out 9-16 for Card outputs 9-16.

      All routing is saved in the scenes. As long as your original scene has been saved on the console or exported to a USB stick, you can always reload it if you inadvertently change something that stops it working.

      We have not discussed how you are going to use the SD card recordings. Most DAW software can import the files directly from the SD cards. If you want to play the files back through the console, it will require some tricky routing. This is because the Aux channels are not as flexible as the normal ones.
      • Nov 21
    • Mark Letalien
      Rex Beckett Hi Mark, the attached screenshots (X32 Edit) show how to set the routing to allow the SD recordings to be played back through the console.

      I have used the Routing -> User In patching to shift most of the tracks up eight places. The first block is used to position tracks 5 and 16 for use by Aux In Remap which only works on the first block. I have fed track 16 to both sides of the Aux 3/4 pair. The second picture shows how to set Routing -> Inputs (Play) to use this patching.

      The console can be configured to switch between Record and Play routing automatically when using SD cards. This is done on the Setup -> Card tab.
      • Nov 21
  • New
    2020-11-20

    Preordered this console a few months ago to ensure I received one in 20, was informed in early October that my console would be shipping 10/30, only to be told today by my sales rep that the console I was supposed to receive will not be built now for months, literally no timetable...What is the reasoning for this?  Is this how Music Tribe supports their customers??

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    • Marshall Husted
      John Matthews Hi Marshall, sorry to here about the delay your experiencing with this. I'll reach out to you via email to get you speaking with the right person. Thanks
      • Nov 22
  • New
    2020-11-19

    Hi there,

     

    Does anywone know how it comes that de usermanual for the X32 does not follow the firmware updfates.

    I can't find een actual manual, containing the latest changes on the Music Tribe site!

    tia

     

     

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    • Dan Libeert
      Paul Vannatto The X32 manual hasn't been updated since firmware 2.x. This forum (community) has become the current manual. Anything you need to know, we can answer.
      • Nov 19
      • X32
        Jeff Rusin Evidently one more problem this website has since they changed over Wayback when when it was a beautiful website. I am about ready to sell all this and just get something different
        • Nov 20
      • X32
        Jeff Rusin I also found out there’s no place to tell them about it
        • Nov 20
      • X32
        Paul Vannatto I wouldn't sell my X32 stuff, no matter how bad the forum is. Just my 2 nickels. I do agree that we had a great forum a few iterations back and I really miss it. But I'm committed to the X32 community (and X-Air, M-Air and Wing as well).
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        • Nov 20
    • Dan Libeert
      Jeff Rusin Well Paul thanks for your help and I was going to send you a file but what I ended up doing was went to set up and reset my scene data and then immediately after I initialized my console. then I reloaded my scenes and everything works again it’s just a computer probably had a little glitch I guess . I get to keep my stuff after all LOL
      • Nov 21
      • X32
        Paul Vannatto Great to hear that an initialisation reset fixed the issue. Wouldn't it be great if certain political problems could be solved that way? (LOL)
        • Nov 21
  • New
    2020-11-19

    I need help!!! I have 2 X32 consoles 1 in the Church and 1 in the media center( another room )  I also have 2 s16 stage boxes and a p16d I'm trying to multitrack from the Media console using MacBook Pro 10.15.xxx and Studio One 3 I've tried everything and console won't record to my laptop funny enough l am able to connect and see Xusb in the daw software but routing seems to be a challenge  please help, I will give more info as needed

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    • Ron Dean
      Dave Morrison Routing is the most difficult aspect of the X32. The "Routing:Card Out" menu is the place to make the changes. If you want the Church console's signal, then the AES-50 bus needs to be selected. If you upload your scene to Dropbox (or equivalent) we can take a look—just post the link.
      Another thing to check is the Mac's security settings. "Security and Privacy:Microphone" needs to allow sound in for each program that want the signal.
      • Nov 18
      • Multitracking
        Ron Dean i will upload soon as i get to church Friday morning, Oh, I'm running firmware 4.03 on X32. I wish i had never changed, the old 3.0.X was working fine
        • Nov 18
  • New

    Estoy mirando esta mesa, quisiera saber si es posible, conectar voz en canal 1 guitarra, canal2, caja de ritmos, canal 3 y tocarlo todo a la vez y conectar la mesa al pc para grabar en Cuba se, reaper, etc y se grabaría cada canal en una pista distinta, osea voz, pista 1, guitarra canal2 caja de ritmos canal 3 o por el contrario se grabaría todo en una misma pista.

    Gracias

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    • Carlos Liras Hernández
      Dave Morrison It should. From the Quickstart guide "When used as a recording interface, 10 channels are transmitted to the computer'
      • Nov 18
    • Carlos Liras Hernández
      Nigel Turner Hi, yes, just to confirm, it is as Dave has written, 10 to the computer and 2 to the mixer.
      • Nov 18
    • Carlos Liras Hernández
      Rex Beckett The USB channels for recording are shown in the Firmware V11729 Release Notes.
      • Nov 19
  • New
    2020-11-18

    Is there any update on when the waves card for the wing console might be available?  

     

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    • Jan Williams
      Pedro Rodrigues Hi Jan, at this moment we do not have any updates on that matter, please keep an eye on our social media for any updated on this matter. Thank you
      • Nov 19
  • New
    2020-11-18

    Hey! I have a Midas MR18 digital mixer (similar to the Behringer XR18) and want to connect from its (balanced XLR, mono) AUX outputs to the (unbalanced TRS, stereo) AUX inputs of a Behringer HA6000 headphone amplifier.

    Depending on the number of participants (mix-minus feeds for each), I would like to support the following two scenarios:

    1. stereo (L/R) headphone monitoring up to 4 people (Midas MR18 limit)
    2. mono (R+R) headphone monitoring up to 6 people (Behringer HA6000 limit)

    To be sure not to damage anything, I'd rather not start experimenting with different cables. Therefore, I have two questions (and a follow-up question, depending on the answer of the 2nd question):

    Question 1: Would a 2x XLR female to TRS male cable (wired as illustrated below) work for stereo (L/R) headphone monitoring (scenario 1), connecting (paired) MR18 AUX outputs to single AUX inputs of the HA6000?

    This would accomodate 3 headphones (AUX outputs only), or even 4 headphones (if I use the MR18 Main L/R outputs as well), to enjoy stereo monitoring.

    Question 2: Would the same cable also work for mono (R+R) headphone monitoring (scenario 2), when simply not connecting one of the XLR ends and pressing the "MONO R" button on the HA6000, or is leaving the ring (or tip) signal of the TRS cable "floating" like this a really bad idea?

    This would accomodate 6 headphones to be able to monitor in mono (mirrored).

    Question 2b: In case using the same cable for scenario 2 is not recommended (see above, question 2), would an XLR female to TS male cable be advised?

    Thanks a lot for any help with this! I've been searching the internet for hours already, but could not find any definitive answers to these questions. It seems not a straightforward thing, wanting to connect the MR18 to a HA6000, or similar device with unbalanced stereo inputs.

    Note: I currently also own the Behringer AMP800 (which has balanced inputs and allows the use of regular XLR to TRS cables) but I want more connectivity options. Unfortunately, it seems headphone amps with more balanced inputs are not that common.

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    • Tom Cosaert
      Rex Beckett Hi Tom, your cable wiring is correct for dual XLR-F to TRS stereo. This should also work for mono if the HA6000 is switched appropriately.
      • Nov 18
      • Midas MR18 AUX Outputs to Behringer HA6000 AUX Inputs
        Tom Cosaert Thanks for the confirmation. Greatly appreciated!
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  • New
    2020-11-18

    Hey, so the other day I was rewiring my desk and my goxlr fell to the gound and now the faders dont move when you hit the mute button is this something that can be fixed?

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  • New
    2020-11-18
    I'm using my live setup - Midas Pro1 and DN9650 over Dante KT64 - now in the studio. 
    How can I record a single channel with a microphone connected to the Pro1 and at the same time send an audio file from the Daw to the Pro1? I can't find ways of flexibly routing the signals. The Pro1 works in Normal or Tape return mode, but with all channels simultaneously...this is fine for multitrack recording not for studio recording.
    Any solution? Many thanks
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    • Stefano De Beni
      Nigel Turner Hi Stefano, maybe I am misunderstanding what you require, but you can patch the Dante card directly to an input channel and have audio playing through that at the same time as you are singing into the microphone. You can also patch the mic input to the Dante card output so that you can record this. You would just need to set your DAW up to play and record at the same time. Why do you want to patch the Dante input (via DN9650) to a tape return?
      • Nov 17
      • Midas Pro1 - DN9650 over Dante KT64 - studio recording configuration
        Stefano De Beni Thank you Nigel, If set the Normal function in my Pro1I can record the signal from the microphone but the stereo track does not reach the Pro1. If, on the other hand, I set Pro1 to Tape Return, the stereo track arrives at the mixer but the microphone signal does not reach the DN9650. I'm sure I'm wrong but I don't understand what. Many thanks
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      • Midas Pro1 - DN9650 over Dante KT64 - studio recording configuration
        Stefano De Beni Microphone is on ch1 of Pro1
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        • Nov 18
    • Stefano De Beni
      Dr Paine Hi Stefano. As Nigel mentioned: 'Normal' and 'tape return' settings are for mainly live multitrack playback BUT, you can keep the console in just 'normal' mode AND route the Dante card to a normal channel input (not a tape return). Just be careful not to send the DAW return back to DAW causing a feedback loop.
      • Nov 18
      • Midas Pro1 - DN9650 over Dante KT64 - studio recording configuration
        Stefano De Beni ok i solved i made a mistake in the patching of the Pro1, many thanks!!!
        • Nov 18
  • New
    2020-11-18
    I'm using my live setup - Midas Pro1 and DN9650 over Dante KT64 - now in the studio. 
    How can I record a single channel with a microphone connected to the Pro1 and at the same time send an audio file from the Daw to the Pro1? I can't find ways of flexibly routing the signals. The Pro1 works in Normal or Tape return mode, but with all channels simultaneously...this is fine for multitrack recording not for studio recording.
    Any solution? Many thanks
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