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    DennisMilsom
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-10-19

    I just tried the Ethernet connection for the first time today, and while it all works well, I noticed when the XR Edit app was open, it ws sending and receiving data constantly. I checked under the windows network tools and saw that the data transfer/receiving is constant and rather large.

    Is this standard with the XR 18 Edit app over ethernet?

    Thanks

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    • DennisMilsom
      Paul_Vannatto Yes this is normal. The X-Air Edit constantly communicates with the XR18 using the OSC protocol. But the bandwidth is very low.
      • Tue at 2:43 PM
    • DennisMilsom
      DennisMilsom

      Cool, thanks Paul

      • Tue at 3:13 PM
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    DennisMilsom
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-10-15

    So I am running some line level gear into channels (not 1 or 2) and without having the gain set to around +25 dB, the metering bars barely register and the sound output is quite low.

    Instrument output levels are nominal, so there is plewnty of signal going in.

    Is there some switch I am missing to force a channel to line-level and not MIC? I sorta thought the inputs were auto-detecting?

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    • DennisMilsom
      Paul_Vannatto Something is not right Dennis. I've used the standard channel inputs (1-16) for line level signals without any issues. What input (XLR or 1/4") of the combo jack are you using?
      • Oct 15
    • DennisMilsom
      DennisMilsom

      Hey Paul :), thanks for the reply - running three line ins (1/4") to channels 15,16,17 - I thought that these combo jacks "auto-sensed" the input between mic/line ....I agree that having to run the gain out to +24 is a bit worrying, although IIRC I have read elsewhere that apparently these figures on the XR are a bit misleading....having said that the hiss levels are noticeable, not overly so, but there!

      • Oct 15
    • DennisMilsom
      Paul_Vannatto The 1/4" jacks of the combo jacks bypass the preamps, since they are meant for line-type levels. The XLR typically are used for mics and the signal does go through the channel's preamp. If you are having to boost the gain significantly and are getting noticeable hiss, it means that there is something wrong with the input signal. The 1/4" jacks are balanced TRS (signal+, signal-, shield) mono inputs, not stereo inputs (left, right, shield). If you are using TRS cables and the signal source is a stereo signal, the XR18 balanced input will be greatly reduced due to cancellation by the balanced configuration.
      • Oct 15
    • DennisMilsom
      DennisMilsom

      As I wrote above Paul, these are mono 1/4" jacks - the XR12 had 1/4" jacks but as you know the 18 only has XLR's - if I run these same cables into another device, there is plenty of signal I can assure you haha! It's why I was thinking there must be a switch somewhere in the XR Edit app to set it. Again, I thought the inputs also auto-sensed a mono or stereo cable....should I use stereo cables instead?

      • Oct 15
    • DennisMilsom
      Paul_Vannatto No, the XR18 XLR jacks are combo jacks. In the middle of each XLR jack is a 1/4" jack. The inputs are not "auto sensing". But the XLR of the jack goes through the preamp (expecting a mic level input) and the 1/4" of the jack bypasses the preamp. Also, no there is no switch to set the inputs.

      Are you using TSR (stereo 1/4" to stereo 1/4"), TS (mono 1/4" to mon 1/4") cable to connect the line level gear to the XR18?
      • Oct 15
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    LowBee
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-10-13

    Good day all,

    I want to connect my iPad to XR18 with ethernet cable as wireless, even with Adlink router, drops out in some environments

    I have a lightning to ethernet adaptor, when I connect directly to XR18 (with wi-fi turned off) I get Ethernet option in the settings

    I click on this and it shows : USB 10/100 LAN but does not 'see' the XR18

     

    What should I do?

     

     

    Thanks learned people

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    • LowBee
      SethMusicTribe Hello LowBee! I would look into an external router! Unfortunately there is no feasible way to do what you ask but the addition of a strong external router would solve most these inconsistences.
      • Oct 13
    • LowBee
      DavidThomson1 Try a crossover cable perhaps? I cannot connect direct from iPad to X18 with a network cable unless its a crossover one, then it works perfect
      • Oct 14
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    htnijhof
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-10-13

    Hello Everyone,

    For our band we are using a X32 Rack for in-ear monitoring. Everybody is using an iPad wit hthe X32Mix app for controlling their personal mix, except for 1 band member, he uses a P16.

    Our drummer finds it hard to make quick changes in his mix on the ipad (the faders on the screen). He prefers mixing-desk style physical faders. A p16 therefore is not a solution.

    So, is it possible to connect a XTouch (or other controller with faders) with his iPad to control his mix in the X32Mix app? Or, is it possible to control his own mix (like on the iPad) by connecting the controller to the X32? I know it's possible to remote control the X32 with a control surface but is it also possible to control his monitor mix only?

    Thanks!

     

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    • htnijhof
      KyleJohnson Hello, Kyle here with Music Tribe. Using the X-TOUCH it is possible to access the monitor mixes on the X32 directly. You can not use the X-TOUCH to control the iPad or Desktop apps.
      • Oct 13
    • htnijhof
      htnijhof Thanks! What if I use a Korg NanoKontrol Studio (with Bluetooth) midi controller and connect it with my iPad running the X32 app? I see some midi settings in the app like Rx an Tx fader (enable/disable). Would that be possible?
      • Oct 14
    • htnijhof
      htnijhof UPDATE: I've been experimenting with the Mixing Station app for iOS and a Korg nanokontrol studio midi controller. And it's works perfectly! The Mixing Station app is compatible with the X32(rack). And it's fully configurable for midi/surface controllers. So this creates a very compact in-ear mixing desk with faders and knobs. And it stands on it's own regarding the surface control.
      • Oct 17
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    Thump1Greg
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-10-07

    I’ve been trying to get in contact with behringer for some time about my products. I have a x32 rack and also other behringer equipment of I can’t get in contact with them I’m selling it all. It shouldn’t be this hard to get in contact with a person. 5405056333 if anyone from behringer is really on this sight help before lossing  a good customer. Please

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    RichOrdell
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-10-02

    I am trying to transfer the entire contents of one X32 rack to another one, but I am lost when it comes to the "Export Show" function.  

    I insert the USB drive, hit SCENES, to to the first tab, hit UTILITY, and then export show.  Then this screen comes up and I have no idea how to proceed.  Pressing the export button on the right does nothing.  Am I supposed to specifiy a file name or something?

     

    Thanks

     

     

     

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    • RichOrdell
      Paul_Vannatto Before you hit Utility button, make sure the show has a name (bottom right corner of the Cues screen). From that screenshot you provided, press the 6th encoder (Export).
      • Oct 2
      • X32 - Export show to USB issues
        RichOrdell

        I am still missing something here. This is the screen under SCENES


        • Oct 3
      • X32 - Export show to USB issues
        RichOrdell

        and this is the SCENES screen after pressing UTILITY. I am not finding where you can name the show on either screen


        • Oct 3
      • X32 - Export show to USB issues
        RichOrdell Any ideas, Paul?
        • Oct 5
    • RichOrdell
      RichOrdell

      Great! I will check that out tonight.

      • Oct 2
    • RichOrdell
      Paul_Vannatto Evidently they changed the screens on the console. Since I mostly use the X32 Rack, I rarely use that screen. Instead I use X32-Edit. For the console screen, insert a USB stick in the USB (at the top), goto the Cues screen (which you are showing as Scenes screen), click on the Utility button, press encoder 6. Then it will show a screen where you can name the show.
      • Oct 5
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    JsunTyler
    Contributor - Level 3
    2021-09-30

    I made the mistake of shutdown and update before a show. I know I am not sure why but this was a huge mistake because at the show I discovered my usb audio driver for xlive was not working anymore. I lost the battle at the show of trying to figure this out but now I am home and still having issues.

    Ableton

    I use ableton to send click tracks into x32rack which support helped me figure out the routing sometime ago. After the update ableton would say it could not open the xlive audio driver. After rebooting, checking cables I did not get the error but no signal was being sent back to the rack via card routing anymore

    PC

    On my windows laptop for outputs it shows xlive but no audio is passing through

    M32C

    I also connect a m32c on this same laptop which uses the same scene as attached and it works no problem so I am at a loss on this one

    Things I have tried to resolve this issue

    Uninstalled as many updates as my laptop would allow

    Uninstalled xlive driver and reinstalled several times

    Gone through Regedit and removed any behringer references and reinstall xlive v4.59.0 driver

    Tried various usb cables to see if that was the issue

    When testing the audio driver in windows alone the tone does register audio from xlive drive

    Other applications do not work with xlive audio that use to such as ableton and Adobe Audition

    restored my laptop back as far as I could which was 6/19

     

     

     


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    • JsunTyler
    • JsunTyler
      Paul_Vannatto You say you updated before you had issues. But you didn't say what you updated - X32 Rack firmware, X-Live drivers, Windows OS, Ableton, etc.
      • Sep 30
    • JsunTyler
      JsunTyler

      What is really strange about this is how is M32C working properly on the same laptop? Why would windows choose to treat the driver differently when I only have the xlive driver installed? There are now windows drivers for midas that i have installed.

      • Oct 1
    • JsunTyler
      Paul_Vannatto Does the M32C have the DN32 card or the DN32-Live card installed? Does the X32 Rack have the X-USB card or the X-Live card installed? Each card uses its own USB drivers. So if the M32C has the DN32-Live card and the X32 Rack has the X-Live card, you need separate drivers for each.
      • Oct 1
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    BobbySadler
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-09-28

    I would like to create Snippet(s) to turn my Mute Groups off and on.. but it doesn't seem possible. I have quite a few other Snippets created to control various aspects of my Scenes.. but Mute Groups are not listed in the Show Control. 

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    • BobbySadler
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Bobby, good to hear from you again. The mute groups are part of the Groups param filter of the X32 snippets screen. You would select the Groups checkbox as well as the desired channels. The problem with that GUI is that both DCA and Mutegroups are part of that.

      To separate them you can export the saved snippet to a file and edit it using a text editor. Each line (from line 2 on) has the OSC path (command) and 2 sets of bitmap (ones and zeros prefixed with a % ). If you just want the mutegroups, remove the first bitmap set and add /grp to the end of the OSC path. The mutegroups go from right to left. In other words, if mutegroup 1 is on, there will be 1 at the end. If it is off the last digit will be a zero.
      • Sep 28
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    Soccerman58
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-09-16

    Hi

    Hi

    Is there an internal GEQ/PEQ that I can assign to a monitor (aux) send in an XAir 18 please?

    I'm pretty sure I can switch monitor sends between Post Fader and Pre Fader with one button, but is there a way I can make the monitor pre-eq please? It doesn't make such sense to me to be post-eq because that means every change in the house is going to appear in the monitors, and who wants that?

    Thank you

    Phil

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    • Soccerman58
      Paul_Vannatto Each channel has one EQ, which can be set as PEQ, GEQ or TEQ. If you need separate EQ to the sends to buses, I would suggest you invest in some P16 (which have basic EQ) that use the Ultranet port.

      Using the X-Air Edit app, the channel sends taps to buses can be set as: Input, Pre EQ, Post EQ, Pre Fader, Post Fader or Subgroup (on the channel's Sends screen)
      • Sep 16
    • Soccerman58
      Soccerman58 Hi. I just watched a Youtube video on the X Air app. I'm assuming that this was the laptop version of the same software these guys want me to run using an Android Pad - correct me if I am wrong. I saw how to change the pickoff point for the aux send which is great. If I select Pre EQ is that post compressor please?
      • Sep 16
    • Soccerman58
      Paul_Vannatto The X-Air Edit (for Windows, Mac, linux and Raspberry Pi) is a full editor, which is different than all android and iOS (tablet and phone) apps. The android/iOS apps are designed to be mixing apps. The best one available is Mixing Station Pro. I use both for all my events, using X-Air Edit (on my linux laptop) to setup and troubleshoot and Mixing Station Pro (on my android tablet) to mix the show.

      The "pickoff point" is called a tap. On the X-Air console, the EQ comes before the compressor. Therefore Pre-EQ and Post-EQ are both pre-compressor. Typically you don't want compression happening in monitor mixes. If for some reason you have to have compression but not EQ, you would need to upgrade to an X32, which allows a change in the signal path to put the compressor pre or post of the EQ.
      • Sep 17
    • Soccerman58
      Paul_Vannatto I'm not sure why you are so concerned about using the channel EQ for both FOH and monitors. These EQ are to adjust the inputs for feedback control and minor input response massaging. Typically you would want the same for both FOH and monitors. For example, a vocal mic would typically have a low cut (to cut out rumble and low end mud), a high shelf (for air) and some mid cuts for feedback control. All that you would want for both FOH and monitors. The EQ differences lies in the outputs to adjust for speaker responses and that would be done using the output EQ (eg Main LR, bus outputs, etc.). And normally all of these adjustments would be done during soundcheck and left as is for the performance.
      • Sep 17
    • Soccerman58
      Soccerman58

      Hi Paul. Thanks for all the comments and tips. I only have the android tablet with this particular band and I don't know what the software is called. Unfortunately I must have been watching a Youtube tutorial for the laptop version. When the guy clicked the aux bus it activated a button to open an equalizer for the bus - so does that mean that I wouldn't be able to access that equalizer from the tablet please? I like the idea of using a Windows laptop with Edit to augment the tablet and Mixing Station Pro is only 6 bucks. I'm not a computer guy though - would I be lucky enough for the laptop to detect the wifi signal automatically?

      • Sep 17
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    LucaVignali
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-09-15

    Good morning
    is it possible with x-touch and xr16 to manage 1/64 snapshots

     

    even one command would be enough to move to the next/prev snapshot

     

    thanks

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