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    Stevenfly
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-01-17

    Hi @ all,

    I bought an XR18 mixing console. Unfortunately, I cannot connect to my Macbook Pro via the USB output of the mixer. The mixer is absolutely not recognised by my Macbook.
    The mixer's firmware is updated to version 1.18.

    The operating system of my Mac should be Big Sur (11.6.2).

    Is this a known problem and can anyone possibly help me.

    Thank you in advance.

    Greetings Stefan

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    • Stevenfly
      KyleJohnson Hello, Kyle here with Music Tribe. First I'd say test a different USB cable and port. Then try another computer. If none of those steps are successful you should contact our Technical Support team. Click on Support and then Technical Support to submit a ticket.
      • Mon at 1:49 PM
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    djfunk14
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-01-15

    Kicking myself for not registering within 90 days (or it would still be under the 3yr warranty) but just short of 2 years my SD16 has nothing coming out of the outputs. Power and AES50 light comes on without issue. Inputs all work just fine but no output. I'm sure it's not a config issure as I've tried everything under the sun. The mixer is definitely sending signal as I'm able to see it on the meter and replicate the output to a local bank of 8 outputs on the x32 mixer.

    As the final troubleshooting attempt, I replaced a known working SD16 in a working setup with the one to troubleshoot, and sure enough, none of the 8 outputs on the SD16 were picking up anything. I've cracked the unit open, checked all the connections and did a quick inspection for any blown caps or damage but couldn't see anything. I then put it back together and had the same results. 

    This thing was used for a few months initially with no issue, then sat in my basement as a backup for the better part of a year and a half until I was able to get another X32 to use it with. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

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    • djfunk14
      Paul_Vannatto Did you check the output bank switch (near the AES50 ports) to make sure it is set to what you want (eg. 1-8)?
      • Jan 15
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    ccampau
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-01-10

    New MR18 user. So far so good. Trying to get the midi commands to work and I was able to get a mute and effects fader toggle working. I do all the mixing from the stage. I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to control other things with a midi controller (footswitch in my case). Specifically:

    1) Toggle an effect insert

    2) Route the LR outputs to Aux 5&6, toggle on, mute aux 6 and route aux 5 back to the Bus 5, toggle off.

    Seems like there a lot of things midi commands could do but aren't a thing yet.

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    • ccampau
      Paul_Vannatto The MR18 "mother tongue' is OSC (via ethernet/wifi). Standard midi implementation is limited to fader, mute and snapshot control. But there is a feature to send most any OSC command using a Sysex hex string. Here is a link to the details.
      https://behringer.world/wiki/doku.php?id=x-air_midi
      • Jan 10
    • ccampau
      ccampau Is there any documentation on how to use OSC? Can it be assigned to a midi footswitch?
      • Jan 10
    • ccampau
      Paul_Vannatto As long as the midi footswitch can send sysex text string, you can send any OSC command. The SysexOscGen app has all of the X-Air/M-Air OSC commands available and can convert them to the required hex string format. (see the link above for details).

      For example to enble channel 3 insert (turn on) it would be:
      OSC: /ch/03/insert/on ON
      F0 00 20 32 32 2F 63 68 2F 30 33 2F 69 6E 73 65 72 74 2F 6F 6E 20 4F 4E F7
      and to disable (turn off) it would be:
      OSC: /ch/03/insert/on OFF
      F0 00 20 32 32 2F 63 68 2F 30 33 2F 69 6E 73 65 72 74 2F 6F 6E 20 4F 46 46 F7
      • Jan 10
    • ccampau
      Paul_Vannatto I've also added the X-Air/M-Air OSC command list, found here:
      https://behringer.world/wiki/doku.php?id=x-air_osc
      • Jan 10
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    Woody1010
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-01-10

    Im Currently running Two X32 Compacts and an S32 stage box in a concert hall and am very happy with the way they work although sometimes we are required to move between locations in the hall for FOH.

    So rather than unplugging and re-patching both ends im wondering if its possible to have multiple cat 6 cables through a switch to different locations and i can pick up anywhere in the room? 

    Even if it requires 2 switches One for AES50A and another for AES50B.

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    • Woody1010
      Nigel67 Hi Woody1010. Unfortunately due to the protocol used, it is not possible to run AES50 through network switches.
      • Jan 10
    • Woody1010
      Woody1010

      Read somewhere if its done through star network and nothing else on the switch then maybe it could work but thought it was worth a check before i attempt anything but thanks for the help.

      • Jan 10
    • Woody1010
      Paul_Vannatto First of all, ethernet is never configured in a star topology. Secondly, the AES50 is a proprietary protocol that only uses (shielded) ethernet cable (physical layer). All other ethernet protocol layers are not used.
      • Jan 10
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    kiwifolkmike
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-01-09

    Hello

    I recently fired up my XR18 and I get a continuously flashing power light. I cannot connect to it anymor - a "hidden network" appears on my PC but it won't recognise the usual credentials. I have tried the reset options to no avail. I can find no reference anywhere on what the flashing light means. Any assistance greatly appreciated.

    Mike

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    • kiwifolkmike
      KyleJohnson Hello, Kyle here from Music Tribe. Please contact our Technical Support directly by clicking on Support and then Technical Support to submit a ticket.
      • Jan 9
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    Johnsilveira
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2021-12-31

    I lost my Xair18 software on my Computer. How do i get it back?

     

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    paulvesco
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-12-18

    I had a tech company with seven X32's, two X32 racks, a CORE, and a Producer, along with four S16's along with an IOS X32 edit program.... and eventually have figured out the routing for each situation, but I still get confused and stumped on some settings.

    I find the "language" and "labeling" confusing. I find it odd that you go under AES50-A to assign LOCAL outputs, but please read on.

    To eliminate a hardware snake, we will typically set our rack with the X32 Rack near the stage. Then we place two S16s on the stage. (My band is typically a large horn band with bigger stages.)

    We want inputs in three places:

    -- at the board, 1-8 (playback, wireless mics, etc)

    -- Stagebox A, 9-24 (horns, guitar, etc)

    -- Stagebox B, 25-32 (drums, bass, keys, etc)

    On the board we want outputs 1-8 at the board, local..... no problem with that and I run my mains out of 7 and 8.

    But sometimes I need additional Mix Bus outputs for additional monitors, etc. I often have trouble assigning outputs 9-16 to the S16's (either A or B).

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    A seccondary but related question is if I am using two outputs for stereo FOH and I use four buses to feed EFX, that really limits me to 12 usable sub outputs, or am I thinking wrong on this. I can't use Aux outs because they don't have the full monitoring functionality of Mix Buses.

    Finally, I have had (and still have) loads of Behringer gear from personal monitor systems, smaller mixers and dozens of direct boxes and I am very happy with the products Behringer manufactures.

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    • paulvesco
      GaryHiggins You don’t assign local outputs from aes50. You can however use local INPUTS as a source for any aes50 ch and that’s what “local” is in the aes50 routing menu, local INPUTS. Local outputs are really what you assign from the XLR out menu and are realized as the XLR physical sockets on the rear of the Rack (or any X32) Defining the sources for any output group is done from the “outputs 1-16” “ultranet” and “Aux out” routing menus. Often referred to here as the “staging” menus. You assign your sources in these 3 places. Then choose a source menu and assign it for the output group (aes50, XLR, User out etc)

      The XLR outputs of the S16’s (when connected via Cat cable from a mixer) are fixed at aes50 out 1-8, 9-16 and 17-24 depending on the config knob setting of the S16. No LED on the screen (config fully counter clockwise) the xlr’s will output aes50 1-8, +8 LED lit up becomes aes50 9-16 and +16 LED lit up becomes aes50 17-24. You need to insert your desired source group to these aes50 groups of 8. All this is done under aes50 routing. Default x32 routing uses “out 1-8 and out 9-16” for aes50 out 1-8 and 9-16 and then repeats those same source groups for aes50 17-32. To get that third output option for the S16 XLRs you need to utilize a different staging menu and use that as the source group for aes50 out 17-24 and set the config to +16. The S16 port assignments are all fixed at specific aes50 ch's but the sources for the aes50 ch's are freely assignable. The specific assignments for those groups get made in each of the 3 "staging" menus. The newer User menu adds a bit of a twist to this in that you can break away form groups of 8 and use single ch's in it.

      Yes you are limited to 12 mix buses if you use 4 for FX. I usually find 2 global fx to be plenty so that frees up 2 more for mix buses.
      • December 18, 2021
    • paulvesco
      Paul_Vannatto The iOS app is NOT an editor app. It is a mixing app and should be used as such. Use the X32-Edit app (for Windows, Mac, Linux and Raspberry Pi) to make any routing changes, since it is designed for that. Granted you can use a mixing app to do routing, in a similar manner that you can use a screwdriver to hammer a nail into wood. But there is a much better tool for that purpose - same with the X32 apps.

      The routing screens are based on what the X32 sees. In other words, put your mind inside the X32 itself when making routing changes and ask yourself "What do I want coming in and where do I want it going out". The only input screens are the Inputs and User In. All other screens are outputs to something (including Aux Out, AES50 A and B, XLR Out, Card, Ultranet, User Out).

      The routing screens are further divided into block assignments (including Inputs, AES50 (A and B), Card, and XLR Out) and patching assignments (Out 1-16, Aux Out, Ultranet, User In and User Out). Patching screens are used to make up the blocks of 4/8 that the block screens require.

      There are both physical and virtual outputs. Out 1-16, User In and User Out are all virtual outputs which are not connected directly to physical outputs. All other screens are physically connected to outputs.

      Hope this explanation better explains how these routing screens work in the X32/M32 eco-system.
      • December 18, 2021
      • Routing Confusion
        GaryHiggins Just to add a tiny bit more to this. Even though the Aux out and Ultranet out routing menus DO connect to and determine actual physical output sources, they also have a virtual component when used as a routing tool. That is to say even if you do not have any devices connected to their physical output jacks, the routing assignments made in those menus still pass as a virtual source. (for say AES50A out 17-24 as an example)
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        • December 19, 2021
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    emmanuelfor2
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-12-08

    hi guys i need your help here, we just get a midas M32 with the stage DL32 and it was in stall on sunday which work very fine till service finish but. today after switching it on for service after some minutes the stage box started muting it self and unmute it self after every few minutes and i cant figure out what is going on with it can someone. please help if you have had this kind of problem before please it need to be sort out before sunday could it be the cat6 i use or what is the solution.

     

    thanks in advance

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    • emmanuelfor2
      KyleJohnson Hello, Kyle here with Music Tribe. It sounds like it's dropping in and out of sync. I'd start by checking a new cable. The cable spec should be Cat5e STP with Ethercon connectors. Also make sure both the M32 and DL32 have reliable power connections. Lastly, make sure the firmware on both units is fully updated.
      • December 8, 2021
    • emmanuelfor2
      Paul_Vannatto As Kyle mentioned, it is probably the AES50 cable that is doing it. Make sure that the cable is shielded cat5e, cat6 or cat7, has ethercon ends on each end of the cable and there is continuity between ethercons. If that is all correct, then unplug and plug the ethercon ends into the M32 and DL32 and make sure that they snap in. If all that doesn't solve the problem, make sure that the M32 and DL32 firmware are up to date.
      • December 8, 2021
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    johnf52
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-11-27

    Some "outlets" are listing both of these as DISCONTINUED but they are still in the online catalogue and to discontinue either of them unless they are to be replaced by Behringer "equivalents" seems very sort sighted.

     

    Is this true and if so what is to be their replacements.  We have an M32 currently and were intending to add an MR18 to expand the flexibility on stage ie passing the output of the MR to a pair of channels on our DL and "recovering" 14 channels on the main board and mixing the MR from an iPad next to the main desk (it will mainly contain a drum sub-mix, so once set won't change much)

    If we can no longer do this, please suggest alternatives.  We were hoping to remain "brand matched" so had not contemplated the Behringer XR18.

    Thanks

    John

    Sound Tech Los Endos (Genesis Tribute)

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    • johnf52
      Paul_Vannatto Hi John, most "outlets" no longer carry the Music-Tribe product due to the change in distribution model. Now only super partners (Sweetwater in US, Cosmo Music in Canada, Thomann in Europe, Anderton in UK and of course Amazon) are official outlets. Most of these outlets show 6-12 weeks wait for MR18 stock (due to the global chip shortage and ongoing supply chain issues). An alternative is to get a Behringer SD16 stagebox, which seems to be in stock. Granted, the preamps are Midas designed (instead of Midas pro). But if it was used for non-critical inputs (eg. not vocals), you probably won't notice the difference.
      • November 27, 2021
    • johnf52
      johnf52

      • November 27, 2021
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    Hodgy15
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-11-26

    Anyone have any experience with the XR18?

    I bought a refurbished one off eBay, ironically from  Music Tribe. It had to go back for repair because channel 4 wasn't working. Received back and now my outputs seem dodgy. On bus outputs 1 + 6 seem to have a lot of noise, 2-5 just don't work?!

    Channel 17+18 don't seem to work and the headphone volume seems to make everything trip out. The main outs are very noisy too. It wasn't like this before it went for repair?! 

    Help ?

     

     

     

     

     

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    • Hodgy15
      Nigel67 Hi Hodgy15. I am very sorry to hear that your XR18 is still not working after being back for repair. You need to contact the person that you were previously talking to and get them to take the unit back and repair it again. Can you just confirm the fault by making a factory reset, input a signal into one of the channels and check the outputs again. Do not load a show. To perform a factory reset, find the hole in the front panel by the access point. There is a switch behind the hole. With the unit powered, push something through the hole and hold the switch in for 12 seconds. You will feel the switch activate with a click. When you release the switch, the unit will have reset. If the unit still isn't working, then send in an e-mail to the person you were previously dealing with. Again, I am very sorry for this inconvenience.
      • November 28, 2021
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