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  • New
    Newcomer - Level 1

    I am working on upgrading our audio system to Dante for several reasons. But what I would like to do is keep using the HUB4/DP48s for in ears on stage. Can i do this using the DN9650 to send the channels from dante to the HUB4 AES50 port?

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    • KSpeyer
      GaryHiggins Are you already using a DN9630? If you are using a Wing or X32 with Dante cards added (if that's what you are saying) AES50 is still available to connect your Hub4/DP48's and Dante is a separate bus and separate routing but is available at the same time. If not and you are already using a DN9650 I don't see why that would not work. It in fact should work. really well syncing everything.
      • November 4, 2021
  • New
    Newcomer - Level 1

    How are you!

    I live in Suwon, South Korea, and am an office worker who is interested in sound equipment.

    I had an idea for a wireless method during acoustic monitoring for a long time, so I sent it to AVIX & CUOSHOP the official Korean importer of Midas & Behringer, to propose and discuss it.

    The wireless WIFI monitoring app development book and STAGE WAVE & other monitoring APP Guide materials are attached as additional materials through AVIX.
    In the future if necessary, we will make it into a translated material and provide it.

    Currently, I am in charge of circuit parts in JIG and equipment assembly and manufacturing at Samsung VD and a primary supplier (Na & Na).

    In general, in relation to monitoring, it is a form of using one's own smartphone as a monitoring device from a wired method using

    Behringer P16-M to a wireless network method using WIFI Router. Innovative products are being launched to support you.

    We have analyzed STAGE WAVE App, which is currently the most emerging, and we would like to suggest a way to develop more advanced than

    STAGE WAVE App by identifying the improvements in the network of that APP.

    Advantages of STAGE WAVE: App compatibility / stability / Low latency possible (latency changes depending on the setting)

    Cons: Requires high-performance Router and mid-range performance smart phone
    Amount of high-power WIFI data / Monthly flat rate

    Advantages of the New Behringer App (temporary name): Intermediate performance Router / Entry-level Smart Phone support available

    Basic output WIFI data amount / Calculation of reasonable monthly fixed amount for users

    Development and sales of PC-only and WIFI Router combined (small-scale) models

    There are additional materials reviewed and analyzed to make this proposal, and ideas related to Line Up that will be upgraded in the future from

    this proposal model are also being prepared.

    Please review the contents first, and if you need interest or discussion about my proposal, please message & call.

    thank you.

    [email protected]


    H.K.Oh (Hong Kyun Oh)

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    • rockbill01
      Paul_Vannatto You have already posted this once before and got a response from the company. This is an end user forum. So it is inappropriate to post this here multiple times. Please delete this thread.
      • August 31, 2021
    • rockbill01

      Hello. Paul_Vannatto

      Sorry for posting the same content multiple times.

      As you said, I clicked the function to delete the discussion, but the content is not deleted normally.

      thank you.


      • September 1, 2021
  • New
    Contributor - Level 3

    I have 6 DP48s and they've been rock solid until last Sunday when we used them. I had some completely drop all signal coming into them. It seemed like 1 worked and the rest dropped out. They eventually reconnected but that's a no-go when you're using a click track. Suggestions?


    My signal chain: Midas M32>AES50B>DP48>DP48>DP48>DP48>DP48>DP48

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    • GregWarren
      GregWarren I did some digging around and found that my firmware was woefully behind on the dp48s. It was 1.5 and I updated to 2.2. My 2 DL16s were 2.4 and I update to 2.5 and my Midas M32 is 4.02 so I think we're good there. I will have practice Wednesday and update if I have more signal loss.
      • July 19, 2021
    • GregWarren
      Paul_Vannatto Hey Greg, are you using proper AES50 cable (shielded with ethercon ends)?
      • July 19, 2021
      • Dropout on DP48
        GregWarren I'm running shielded cable but it's not ethercon.
        • July 20, 2021
    • GregWarren
      Paul_Vannatto Hey Greg, Brian Wynn proved to us (back in 2013) that the ethercon ends are very important in shielding the cable from ESD (electrostatic discharge) which results in AES50 dropouts. So if you have low humidity, this may be the source to your dropouts.
      • July 21, 2021
  • New
    Newcomer - Level 1

    Want to purchase a Midas DP48 monitor system because our band uses the M32r.  However, personally I also own a Behringer XR18 that uses Ultranet instead of AES.  I see in the marketing info that it says that the DP48 works with all Midas and Behringer digital mixers, being that the XR18 is a Behringer digital mixer, I wonder if this is true.  Does anybody have a definite answer to this question as I'd love to use the DP48 with my Behringer XR18 as well.  Thank you!

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    • Johnnyh64
      Paul_Vannatto No the DP48 does not work with the X-Air or M-Air consoles, since they do not have the AES50 (which the DP48 requires)
      • July 2, 2021
  • New
    Newcomer - Level 2

    On WING + DL32, how many DP48s can be daisy chained without issue? I could use the second AES port  off the WING or the through connection from the DL32 stagebox.



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    • ecfsanjose
      Paul_Vannatto I think the answer is the same as to how many P16 can be daisy chained - we're not sure.
      • June 17, 2021
    • ecfsanjose
      DavidKnighton Hello ecfsanjose,
      I'm not sure if there is an exact number, but I know at some point there was a class full of X32/M32 that were all daisy chained, between 30-40 mixer without issue. That being said, you should probably make use of a HUB4, because 1 bad cable link can disrupt the whole AES50 stream. A HUB4 will distribute up to 4 separate streams for better management.
      • June 17, 2021
    • ecfsanjose
      ecfsanjose Thanks Paul, David
      • June 17, 2021
    • ecfsanjose
      joshtew Do note that talkback function doesn't work between daisy chained DP48s.
      • July 7, 2021
  • New
    Contributor - Level 2

    Can anyone tell me if it is possible to transfer files, IE mix/group settings, via the SD card from unit to unit

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    • GeorgeAukerman
      Paul_Vannatto Yes you can. If you press the Setup and SD Rec buttons simultaneously, it gives you the Load/Save as well as Read/Write from/to the SD.
      • May 27, 2021
  • New
    Newcomer - Level 1

    Does anyone know if the DP48 Monitoring System can be used with the Midas MR16 Mixer? Or if there is a solution how this can be configured?

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    • Errol
      DaveMorrison No. The DP48 only communicates using the AES-50 protocol. The MR16 doesn't.
      • April 2, 2021
    • Errol
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Errol, since the DP48 uses the AES50, the MR18 (or any of the M-Air/X-Air consoles) cannot use the DP48. The only solution is to upgrade to the X32 Rack (or any X32 or M32).
      • April 2, 2021
    • Errol
      Dale_M No as mentioned there is no AES50 available on the X-AIR products
      • April 3, 2021
  • New
    Contributor - Level 1

    We are currently using firmware v1.4 on our 4x DP48s. Can someone point me to a full revision history from v1.4 to the latest v2.0. I can only find revision history for v2.0. Is there a full user manual to go with this firmware? All I can find is the quickstart guide and that is for v1.3 of firmware.

    Has anyone update to this firmware version and can vouch for it's stability/reliability?

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    • tone_crafter
      GaryHiggins DP48 firmware historical

      Version 1.2 - (16 December 2019)
      The DP48 Firmware Update 1.2 features performance enhancements to the personal monitoring mixer’s operating system. Firmware 1.2 adds:
      * Remote configuration of DP48 Groups and channel assignments, including Level and Pan settings, directly from Midas M32* series mixing console GUI 

      * Automatic adjustable ducking of ambience microphones during the performance, depending on signals coming in over AES50 

      * 12 new external preset storage slots on SD card 

      * Stand-alone mode can now be used with AES50 stage-boxes such as DL32 or DL16 

      * M32* console time is now received over AES50. This allows timestamped SD recording files 

      * Mix A/B Limiter activity is now displayed on the meter overview screen 

      * My Group controls the playback level, while a track is selected for playback on the SD Recorder 

      * Upstream of local AUX-Input and built in Microphones to AES50-Stream for sharing click or backing tracks and communication to the Engineer 

      * Close boot screen by pressing MIX A or MIX B * Requires mixer fw 4.01 or higher

      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.3 ( May 2020)

      New Features 1.3

      • 2 separate stereo reverb processors for separation between Mix A and B

      • Stereo mode for assigning and editing two channels of a Group at the same time (long press)

      • Reverb sends are now post-fader separately for Mix A/B

      • New idle screen with Group names and pre-fader metering overview

      • Quick Group renaming by selecting from a list of common names (long press on idle screen)

      • MIX A/MIX B ‘Meter Screen’ same as idle screen but showing A/B post-fader levels

      • Talkback function using the internal microphones in conjunction with HUB4

      • Talkback signal will be exchanged between all DP48 mixers and M32 consoles via CH48

      • Automatic configuration if Talkback is active:

      o Add CH48 to assignment of Group 12

      o Rename Group 12 to ‘Talkback’

      o Activate ‘MIC +20dB’ in Setup

      • Configure Talkback in Setup, press and hold MIC button to speak


      • FX return default value set to -10 dB

      • ID and enumeration bugs in remote operation fixed

      • Master units update local preset copy when a X32 broadcast message is received

      • Remote function: group names are sent to remote unit

      • Group PAN had no effect when the group was assigned to a MIX as MY-Group

      • Work on local preset when the remote ID is master

      • Better AES50 error management and faster recovery

      • DP48 on HUB4 master port for remote control

      • Missing X32 messages improved

      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.4 (2020-06-17)
      New Features 1.4
      * Regular group solo function replaces automatic group solo in edit mode (to enable use long press on GROUP button) 

      * Automatic 10 dB assignment-solo dim Improvements 

      * Daisy-Chain upstream bug fixed (introduced with FW1.3) 

      * Stereo-Assignment when resetting device fixed (introduced with FW1.3) 

      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.5 (2020-07-15)

      New Features 1.5
      • Sending control and name commands through stage boxes Improvements
      • SD-Card recording bug fixed (introduced with FW1.4)

      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.6 (2020-10-12)
      New Features 1.6
      * Volume control changed to smoother linear operation. 

      * Full compatibility to new DP48 Console-Remote including stereo link control. 
(introduced with X32/M32 Firmware 4.03) 

      * Bugfix for multiple DP48 in a chain all indicated as Master-Devices. 

      * Pan law gain changed from 6dB to 3dB for improved stereo imaging. 

      * The purple frame for slave devices is now only visual when active remote control is taking place. 

      * Bugfix for post fader reverb send in conjunction with MY GROUP control.

      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.7 (Oct 2020)

      Midas DP48 Firmware UpdateVersion 1.7  

      This update introduces a wealth of new features that help simplifying setup, improve overview and provide new means of communication for all live performance and studio production applications, where musicians are in control of their own monitor mix.Midas is constantly adding new features and making enhancements to this extremely stable ecosystem of digital mixers, I/O boxes and personal monitoring mixers. This means you always experience the best possible performance. Visit and check for updates of your products regularly. Download the latest firmware for DP48 and HUB4, and make sure the latest versions will be installed to both.

      New Features 1.7

      • Mirror Mix A on Mix B output in singlemode.

      • Fix for saving master parameters if powering off while remote controlling.
      • Fix for stereo link assignment and indication on booth channels in a pair, while working remotely.
      • Fix for passing on wrong AES50 information of connected devices in a chain.
      • Fix for pre fader reverb send when using MY GROUP in singlemode.
      • Refresh assign page after being remote controlled by master.

      Midas DP48 Firmware Update
      Version 1.8 - (23 November 2020)
      Congratulations on purchasing this innovative personal monitoring system. This update introduces a quickfix for an crossdependent issue with the post-fader reverb send when using MYGROUP in single mode.
      Midas is constantly adding new features and making enhancements to this extremely stable ecosystem of digital mixers, I/O boxes and personal monitoring mixers. This means you always experience the best possible performance. Download and install the latest firmware for DP48 and HUB4 to make use of the latest Features and Improvements.
      • Fix for crossover MIX A-B/ MIX B-A pre-fader FX send issue in single mode

      Midas DP48 Firmware Update
      Version 1.9 - (4 December 2020)
      Congratulations on purchasing this innovative personal monitoring system. This update is fixing and improving the loading of presets.
      Midas is constantly adding new features and making enhancements to this extremely stable ecosystem of digital mixers, I/O boxes and personal monitoring mixers. This means you always experience the best possible performance. Download and install the latest firmware for DP48 and HUB4 to make use of the latest features and improvements.
      • Fix for preset loading issues
      • Improved preset loading with active Remote-

      Midas DP48 Firmware Update
      Version 2.0 - (5 February 2021)
      Congratulations on purchasing this innovative personal monitoring system. This update is fixing issues related to the PAN and EQ when using dual MY GROUP in single mode.
      Midas is constantly adding new features and making enhancements to this extremely stable ecosystem of digital mixers, I/O boxes and personal monitoring mixers. This means you always experience the best possible performance. Download and install the latest firmware for DP48 and HUB4 to make use of the latest features and improvements.
      • Fix for PAN and EQ issues when using dual MY GROUP in single mode
      • March 19, 2021
      • DP48 firmware
        GaryHiggins BTW I believe 2.0 is stable, I have not used it much to be honest but do not recall many (or any) complaints regarding bugs.
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        • March 19, 2021
  • New
    Newcomer - Level 1

    I have a HoW installed M32R connected to a DL16 stagebox thru AES50-A.  How do I configure AES50-B on the DL16 to send to the daisy-chained DP48s used as IEMs on stage? Currently, the DP48s are connected directrly to the M32R on AES50-B on a CAT5 mess along the floor edge. If I could run the DP48s off the AES50-B from the DL16, I would be able to avoid running cable thru the ventilation system, crawl spaces, walls, and drop ceiling to get to the DL16 in the rack at FOH. Will the Hub4 do this or is there a more economical solution?

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    • DouginAlaska
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Doug, you can daisy-chain the DL16 and the DP48, understanding that the first 8 outputs from the M32 will be assigned for DL16 outputs. These will also pass through (downstream) to the DP48. It also means that you will only have AES50 9-48 available for the DP48.

      The other issue is the upstream signals (see page 6 in the DL16 User Manual). These are shifted one bank over when passing through the stagebox. This will be important if you plan on using the talkback functionality of the DP48 for the musicians to communicate with FOH, because the talkback on the DP48 is on AES50 channel 48. Therefore when passing through the DL16 to the M32, the talkback will disappear. This is why it is recommended to either have the DP48's fed by the other AES50, or get a Hub4 which has a true pass through.
      • March 11, 2021
      • Routing DP48s thru DL16
        GaryHiggins Very helpful advice! Makes perfect sense when I think more about it. I have not used them in a stage box daisy chain but I am going to note this for future reference.
        • March 12, 2021
  • New
    Regular Contributor - Level 1



    I noticed i can only assign an aes channel once to a group. When assingning the same channel to a second group it dissapears from the first group.
    This is logical but.

    When i want to use the DP48 for  two musicians it could actually be helpfull to assign  the channels to 2  different groups.
    Because then user 1 can use group 1 for (example) drums and adjust the individual channels to his own flavour. User 2 can use group 2 for drums and adjust the individual channels for his own flavour.

    Is there a possibility to change this in future firmware?



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    • WillemKrabbe
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Willem, unfortunately it is not possible to assign a channel to more than one group, due to the assignment design.
      • February 24, 2021
      • DP48
        WillemKrabbe Thanks for your quick reply. Pity though it's not possible.
        • February 24, 2021
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