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    tone_crafter
    Contributor - Level 1
    2021-03-19
    DP48 firmware | Wired In-Ear Monitoring Components

    We are currently using firmware v1.4 on our 4x DP48s. Can someone point me to a full revision history from v1.4 to the latest v2.0. I can only find revision history for v2.0. Is there a full user manual to go with this firmware? All I can find is the quickstart guide and that is for v1.3 of firmware.

    Has anyone update to this firmware version and can vouch for it's stability/reliability?

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      GaryHiggins DP48 firmware historical

      Version 1.2 - (16 December 2019)
      The DP48 Firmware Update 1.2 features performance enhancements to the personal monitoring mixer’s operating system. Firmware 1.2 adds:
      * Remote configuration of DP48 Groups and channel assignments, including Level and Pan settings, directly from Midas M32* series mixing console GUI 

      * Automatic adjustable ducking of ambience microphones during the performance, depending on signals coming in over AES50 

      * 12 new external preset storage slots on SD card 

      * Stand-alone mode can now be used with AES50 stage-boxes such as DL32 or DL16 

      * M32* console time is now received over AES50. This allows timestamped SD recording files 

      * Mix A/B Limiter activity is now displayed on the meter overview screen 

      * My Group controls the playback level, while a track is selected for playback on the SD Recorder 

      * Upstream of local AUX-Input and built in Microphones to AES50-Stream for sharing click or backing tracks and communication to the Engineer 

      * Close boot screen by pressing MIX A or MIX B * Requires mixer fw 4.01 or higher

      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.3 ( May 2020)

      New Features 1.3

      • 2 separate stereo reverb processors for separation between Mix A and B

      • Stereo mode for assigning and editing two channels of a Group at the same time (long press)

      • Reverb sends are now post-fader separately for Mix A/B

      • New idle screen with Group names and pre-fader metering overview

      • Quick Group renaming by selecting from a list of common names (long press on idle screen)

      • MIX A/MIX B ‘Meter Screen’ same as idle screen but showing A/B post-fader levels

      • Talkback function using the internal microphones in conjunction with HUB4

      • Talkback signal will be exchanged between all DP48 mixers and M32 consoles via CH48

      • Automatic configuration if Talkback is active:

      o Add CH48 to assignment of Group 12

      o Rename Group 12 to ‘Talkback’

      o Activate ‘MIC +20dB’ in Setup

      • Configure Talkback in Setup, press and hold MIC button to speak

      Improvements

      • FX return default value set to -10 dB

      • ID and enumeration bugs in remote operation fixed

      • Master units update local preset copy when a X32 broadcast message is received

      • Remote function: group names are sent to remote unit

      • Group PAN had no effect when the group was assigned to a MIX as MY-Group

      • Work on local preset when the remote ID is master

      • Better AES50 error management and faster recovery

      • DP48 on HUB4 master port for remote control

      • Missing X32 messages improved
      * 

      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.4 (2020-06-17)
      Welcome
      New Features 1.4
      * Regular group solo function replaces automatic group solo in edit mode (to enable use long press on GROUP button) 

      * Automatic 10 dB assignment-solo dim Improvements 

      * Daisy-Chain upstream bug fixed (introduced with FW1.3) 

      * Stereo-Assignment when resetting device fixed (introduced with FW1.3) 


      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.5 (2020-07-15)
      Welcome

      New Features 1.5
      • Sending control and name commands through stage boxes Improvements
      • SD-Card recording bug fixed (introduced with FW1.4)

      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.6 (2020-10-12)
      Welcome
      New Features 1.6
      * Volume control changed to smoother linear operation. 

      * Full compatibility to new DP48 Console-Remote including stereo link control. 
(introduced with X32/M32 Firmware 4.03) 
Improvements 

      * Bugfix for multiple DP48 in a chain all indicated as Master-Devices. 

      * Pan law gain changed from 6dB to 3dB for improved stereo imaging. 

      * The purple frame for slave devices is now only visual when active remote control is taking place. 

      * Bugfix for post fader reverb send in conjunction with MY GROUP control.


      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.7 (Oct 2020)

      Midas DP48 Firmware UpdateVersion 1.7  

      This update introduces a wealth of new features that help simplifying setup, improve overview and provide new means of communication for all live performance and studio production applications, where musicians are in control of their own monitor mix.Midas is constantly adding new features and making enhancements to this extremely stable ecosystem of digital mixers, I/O boxes and personal monitoring mixers. This means you always experience the best possible performance. Visit midasconsoles.com and check for updates of your products regularly. Download the latest firmware for DP48 and HUB4, and make sure the latest versions will be installed to both.


      New Features 1.7

      • Mirror Mix A on Mix B output in singlemode.

      Improvements
      • Fix for saving master parameters if powering off while remote controlling.
      • Fix for stereo link assignment and indication on booth channels in a pair, while working remotely.
      • Fix for passing on wrong AES50 information of connected devices in a chain.
      • Fix for pre fader reverb send when using MY GROUP in singlemode.
      • Refresh assign page after being remote controlled by master.



      Midas DP48 Firmware Update
      Version 1.8 - (23 November 2020)
      Welcome
      Congratulations on purchasing this innovative personal monitoring system. This update introduces a quickfix for an crossdependent issue with the post-fader reverb send when using MYGROUP in single mode.
      Midas is constantly adding new features and making enhancements to this extremely stable ecosystem of digital mixers, I/O boxes and personal monitoring mixers. This means you always experience the best possible performance. Download and install the latest firmware for DP48 and HUB4 to make use of the latest Features and Improvements.
      Improvements
      • Fix for crossover MIX A-B/ MIX B-A pre-fader FX send issue in single mode


      Midas DP48 Firmware Update
      Version 1.9 - (4 December 2020)
      Welcome
      Congratulations on purchasing this innovative personal monitoring system. This update is fixing and improving the loading of presets.
      Midas is constantly adding new features and making enhancements to this extremely stable ecosystem of digital mixers, I/O boxes and personal monitoring mixers. This means you always experience the best possible performance. Download and install the latest firmware for DP48 and HUB4 to make use of the latest features and improvements.
      Bugfixes
      • Fix for preset loading issues
      Improvements
      • Improved preset loading with active Remote-


      Midas DP48 Firmware Update
      Version 2.0 - (5 February 2021)
      Welcome
      Congratulations on purchasing this innovative personal monitoring system. This update is fixing issues related to the PAN and EQ when using dual MY GROUP in single mode.
      Midas is constantly adding new features and making enhancements to this extremely stable ecosystem of digital mixers, I/O boxes and personal monitoring mixers. This means you always experience the best possible performance. Download and install the latest firmware for DP48 and HUB4 to make use of the latest features and improvements.
      Bugfixes
      • Fix for PAN and EQ issues when using dual MY GROUP in single mode
      • March 19, 2021
      • DP48 firmware
        GaryHiggins BTW I believe 2.0 is stable, I have not used it much to be honest but do not recall many (or any) complaints regarding bugs.
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    DouginAlaska
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-03-11
    Routing DP48s thru DL16 | Wired In-Ear Monitoring Components

    I have a HoW installed M32R connected to a DL16 stagebox thru AES50-A.  How do I configure AES50-B on the DL16 to send to the daisy-chained DP48s used as IEMs on stage? Currently, the DP48s are connected directrly to the M32R on AES50-B on a CAT5 mess along the floor edge. If I could run the DP48s off the AES50-B from the DL16, I would be able to avoid running cable thru the ventilation system, crawl spaces, walls, and drop ceiling to get to the DL16 in the rack at FOH. Will the Hub4 do this or is there a more economical solution?

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    • DouginAlaska
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Doug, you can daisy-chain the DL16 and the DP48, understanding that the first 8 outputs from the M32 will be assigned for DL16 outputs. These will also pass through (downstream) to the DP48. It also means that you will only have AES50 9-48 available for the DP48.

      The other issue is the upstream signals (see page 6 in the DL16 User Manual). These are shifted one bank over when passing through the stagebox. This will be important if you plan on using the talkback functionality of the DP48 for the musicians to communicate with FOH, because the talkback on the DP48 is on AES50 channel 48. Therefore when passing through the DL16 to the M32, the talkback will disappear. This is why it is recommended to either have the DP48's fed by the other AES50, or get a Hub4 which has a true pass through.
      • March 11, 2021
      • Routing DP48s thru DL16
        GaryHiggins Very helpful advice! Makes perfect sense when I think more about it. I have not used them in a stage box daisy chain but I am going to note this for future reference.
        • March 12, 2021
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    ja2903
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-03-04
    P16M no recibe señal | Wired In-Ear Monitoring Components

    mi p16m no se conecta a los demas p16m y no conecta luz de ultranet tengo 4 en total y solo funcionan 3

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    • ja2903
      Nigel67 Hi, if your unit has stopped working, please send in a Service Ticket and the team will take care of this. This can be done by clicking on the support tab at the top of the page. This will open a new window. Scroll down and click on the Service tab and submit a ticket. Many thanks
      • March 3, 2021
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      ja2903 thanks
      • March 4, 2021
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    PowerOne
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-02-27
    church monitor | Wired In-Ear Monitoring Components

    Interested in purchasing the Powerplay Ha 8000 and would like to know if it will work in tandem with the p16 personal mixer  

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    • PowerOne
      RexBeckett Hi PowerOne, is your plan to use the HA8000 to feed multiple headphones from a single P16-M? This should work provided everyone is happy to have the same monitor mix.

      In my experience, musicians usually want individual monitor mixes. I don't see that the HA8000 would be much help with this.
      • February 27, 2021
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    WillemKrabbe
    Regular Contributor - Level 1
    2021-02-24
    DP48 | Wired In-Ear Monitoring Components

    Hi,

     

    I noticed i can only assign an aes channel once to a group. When assingning the same channel to a second group it dissapears from the first group.
    This is logical but.

    When i want to use the DP48 for  two musicians it could actually be helpfull to assign  the channels to 2  different groups.
    Because then user 1 can use group 1 for (example) drums and adjust the individual channels to his own flavour. User 2 can use group 2 for drums and adjust the individual channels for his own flavour.

    Is there a possibility to change this in future firmware?

     

    Willem

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    • WillemKrabbe
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Willem, unfortunately it is not possible to assign a channel to more than one group, due to the assignment design.
      • February 24, 2021
      • DP48
        WillemKrabbe Thanks for your quick reply. Pity though it's not possible.
        • February 24, 2021
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    joshtew
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-02-20
    Very Loud Pop(even with fully lowered Volume) when Upstream DP48 in daisy chain... | Wired In-Ear Monitoring Components

    Noticed this recently that when I switch off a DP48 with other units daisy chained to it, the downstream unit will produce a very loud pop sound in the headphones output even though the Volume knob has been fully lowered.

    I noticed it because I could hear the pop from the headphones connected to another unit that was almost 2 meters away when I switched off 1 unit for firmware upgrade and testing.

    Once again the volume level has been fully lowered on that downstream unit yet the pop sound came through so loudly and this happened consistently.

    What will it do to a musician with in-ears when another musician upstream switches the unit off, by accident or for whatever other reason?!

    Please fix this soon.

    **Glad to report that the above issue has been resolved in DP48 FW v2.2!

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    • joshtew
      Paul_Vannatto The loud popping sound is due to the breakage of the AES50 that passes through the DP48 in a daisy chain configuration when the upstream DP48 is turned off. This has been an issue since the introduction of the X32 (back in 2012) or even earlier. The fix is to get a Hub4 and connect the DP48 from it instead of daisy chaining. The other solution is to make sure nothing is turned off until everyone is finished and no longer using the DP48's. Also make sure you are using shielded cat5e/cat6/cat7 cable with ethercon ends.
      • February 19, 2021
      • Very Loud Pop(even with fully lowered Volume) when Upstream DP48 in daisy chain is switched off
        joshtew Wow, I feel there should be much better signal breakage handling from such professional equipment and at the very least the unit should conform to the volume knob setting...
        • February 19, 2021
    • joshtew
      Paul_Vannatto I'll report this to the developers (of the DP48) to see if they can do anything about it.
      • February 20, 2021
      • Very Loud Pop(even with fully lowered Volume) when Upstream DP48 in daisy chain is switched off
        joshtew Thanks, much appreciated
        • February 21, 2021
    • joshtew
      joshtew

      Glad to report that the above issue has been resolved in DP48 FW v2.2!

      • April 28, 2021
    • joshtew
      Paul_Vannatto Thanks Josh for the good report
      • July 8, 2021
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    GtrTom423
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-02-17
    PM-1 Headphone monitor working with an XR-18 Air Monitor System. | Wired In-Ear Monitoring Components

    Folks:

    I'm trying to make my new PM-1 personal monitor work, (plug in) to the Air XR-18 board, as my band currently uses this system.  In reading the manual for the PM-1, it's highlighting that I would need to use a quarter inch TRS cable end in order to have a stereo feed to the device, but other than the "phones" output on the board, all the other monitor feeds are a male ended XLR output.

    Would a standard XLR cable work with this in stereo, or do you have a suggestion on the type of cable I should be using here to produce a stereo sound field?

    Thanks,

    Tom DeMartino

    [email protected]

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      DavidKnighton Hello Tom,
      Being that the XLR outs are balanced mono, you would need a very special cable for this to work correctly. Or you could take the mono out into a headphone amp/mixer and that could work too. The receiving XLR on the PM1 is and unbalanced stereo input, which is quite uncommon to see in my opinion. You essentially need to take one hot leg from two aux outs and wire them to pins 2 and 3 of the receiving XLR end. The cold legs of the aux outs need to be wired to pin 1 ground so they're not floating. Let me know if you have trouble with this.
      • February 17, 2021
      • PM-1 Headphone monitor working with an XR-18 Air Monitor System.
        GtrTom423 David, thank you for your note. Do you think that having this type of cord might help my cause? https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/BPBQFXF20--pro-co-20-foot-excellines-balanced-patch-cable If I had a quarter inch TRS to XLR connector already?
        • February 17, 2021
      • PM-1 Headphone monitor working with an XR-18 Air Monitor System.
        RexBeckett Hi Tom, you can get the required cable from the link below. You want the type XLR Male to dual XLR-F.

        https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pro-Shielded-XLR-MALE-Female-to-DUAL-XLR-Left-Right-Y-INSERT-CABLE-1ft-to-10ft/151300270070?hash=item233a32e7f6:g:ipkAAOxy9X5Tb70U

        I cannot recommend using PM1s on the XR18 Aux outputs. The outputs were not designed to feed such low impedance loads. It can result in distortion on the Aux and Main outputs. A better solution is to use the PowerPlay P2 which includes a headphone amplifier. See these notesfor further information: https://community.musictribe.com/discussions/77059/237996/using-the-powerplay-p2-for-wired-iem
        • February 17, 2021
      • PM-1 Headphone monitor working with an XR-18 Air Monitor System.
        DavidKnighton Hello Tom, The cable in the link you provided won't work because the way the pins terminate is for balanced mono connection. If you connect a balanced mono source to a stereo input, what will happen is the stereo input will be phase inverted, and will cause acoustical phasing problems. The one Rex shared might work, but honestly I can't tell because the pin termination needs to be exact. He makes a fair point regarding impedance loads. You may want to take his advice and get a P2, as it will solve most of your cabling issues right off the bat.
        • February 17, 2021
      • PM-1 Headphone monitor working with an XR-18 Air Monitor System.
        GtrTom423 Thank you both Rex and David for your insight. I'm saddened to see how difficult it us to try to use this PM-1 device, especially considering it's from Behringer to begin with. In it's place, I've been using a Mackie Spot Monitor that mounts on my mike stand, as it packs 150 watts of power. I was just hoping to have something in-ear for a change. Either way, thank you both.
        • February 17, 2021
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    Jewright76
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-02-09
    X32 and elite core | Wired In-Ear Monitoring Components

    Can anyone tell me the best way to hook up a elite core pm16 in ear monitor system to the x32 with out using all the output channels?

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    • Jewright76
      Paul_Vannatto Unfortunately, since the Elite Core is not part of Music Tribe, they have their own proprietary ethernet protocol that is not compatible to either the Music Tribe Ultranet or AES50 protocols. I would suggest you retire (or sell) the Elite Core and invest in either the P16 line (using the Ultranet) or the newer Midas DP48 personal mixers (that uses the AES50).
      • February 9, 2021
    • Jewright76
      StephenEvans You could get something like the Midas HUB4 which has 16 analog outs.
      • February 11, 2021
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    WDuester
    Contributor - Level 3
    2021-02-09
    Has anyone used CAT5e or CAT6 unshielded cable with DP48 units? | Wired In-Ear Monitoring Components

    I'm wondering if anyone has used, or could comment, on using CAT5e or CAT6 unshielded cable for a DP48 daisy chain system.

    I've already read the 'recommended shielded' information and don't need posts re-iterating the same.

    This post is to solicit real world installations where end users may have used unshielded CAT cable and I'm interested in the results and learnings of doing that.

    I have an existing CAT network from the M32 mixer to the rack and from the rack to stage boxes that is all unshielded CAT6.  I'm stongly leaning toward migrating to the DP48 personal monitor system.

    I'm trying to figure out if I really need to replace all the CAT6 unshielded cable with shielded. Does unshielded really affect the performance of the system?

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    ttengowski
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-02-04
    Frustrated with Support System - Does anybody care about the customer? | Wired In-Ear Monitoring Components

    I have been more than patient with your poor approach to customer service. 

    I have a simple P1 that needed to be repaired/replaced under warranty.  I sent it in per your RGA in July to Las Vegas and I have not had any response on the status since November and I still do not have my unit back.  This is beyond unnaceptable. 

    My one service ticket has morphed over time into 3 for some reason...probably closed and re-opened since someone is being measured on how long service tickets are open.  Either way, the probelm is not solved.

    Just send me my unit back and we can part as friends...

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    • ttengowski
      JoeRivers96 Hi ttengowski, many apologies for the inconvenience here. I will ensure this is looked into further for you ASAP.
      • February 5, 2021
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