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    joshtew
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-12-26

    I have been trying to get the talkback function on the DP48s to work but found that once they are daisy chained together these units will not be able to go into the talkback mode.

    I was wondering why 1 of the units was able to show TALK when I press and hold the MIC button but not the others. After much trial and errors I realised that when the units are daisy chained, they will not go into the TALK mode.

    I managed to cause 1 DP48 to hang when I turned on a downstream unit before turning on the source DP48, the unit goes into TALK mode after I press and held Mic button but it got stuck and doesn't return to main screen after I let go of the button. I had to restart the unit.

    Seems like a bug in the firmware? Or is it a requirement for the DP48s to be directly connected to HUB4 without any units connected to its thru port but this is not documented.

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    • joshtew
      gabehizer Where did you see TALK displayed? When I press the MIC button, I only see a large "MIC" displayed on the left panel of the DP48. This DP48 is plugged directly into the X32 AES50 port B, so no daisy chaining involved. Does it only work if you have the HUB 4?

      I followed these instructions:

      • Talkback signal will be exchanged between all DP48 mixers and M32 consoles via CH48


      • Automatic configuration if Talkback is active:


      o Add CH48 to assignment of Group 12


      o Rename Group 12 to ‘Talkback’


      o Activate ‘MIC +20dB’ in Setup


      • Configure Talkback in Setup, press and hold MIC button to speak
      • December 26, 2020
      • DP48 Talkback Function(FW1.9)  not working with daisy chained units
        joshtew It is shown on the DP48 display when I press And Hold the Mic Button.
        • December 27, 2020
    • joshtew
      DanielPaine The Talkback feature is designed to work with the Hub 4 only. The reason why daisy chain is not supported is due to the downstream bump of + 8ch for each device linked so you can have all outputs of IEM at the desk end. With the Hub 4 connected, each DP48 talkback is mixed on to ch 48 downstream to the M32. A feature that can't be done through each DP48 thru (it will require bi-directional mixing of all linked DP48's). Hope this helps.
      • Feb 1
      • DP48 Talkback Function(FW1.9)  not working with daisy chained units
        joshtew Thanks Daniel for your reply.

        Please do include this information in the documentation, that would save users hours of testing and looking through firmware update notes trying to figure out why Talkback is not working for daisy chained DP48s. I had the wrong impression that DP48s are able to mix Talkback signal from downstream units to be forwarded to Hub4.

        Wondering why Talkback is not working even for the first DP48 of the chain which is directly connected to Hub4?

        For the 8chs upstream from DP48s connected to Hub4, saw from the Add-on Sheet documentation(FW2.3) that they consists of 4 channels for the 2 stereo mixes with 1 Talkback channel and 3 line channels. What are these 3 line channels for? Stereo Aux in?

        May I suggest these options to implement Talkback for daisy chained DP48s :

        1) Provide a configurable option for individual DP48 to mix Talkback Mic signal from the downstream DP48 with its own.

        2) For DP48s which are not required to send mixes back to Hub4, provide a configuration for upstream channels to be used for sending Talkback signal of daisy chained DP48s to Hub4 instead. Hub4 can then do the mixing of these signals to Ch48.

        3) Alternatively, if the 3 line channels are not in use, these can be used for up to 3 daisy chained DP48s talkbacks.
        • Feb 1
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    joshtew
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-12-26

    There is currently no way to assign a name to the saved preset slots(FW v1.9), from a management point of view this is a problem as musicians may not remember which slot they saved their preset to and slots will get used up pretty quickly and things get messy when musicians end up overwriting another's preset slot.

    Please do add in a feature to name the preset slots for easy identification, and to edit the name as well.

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    than8329
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-12-21

    Hi there! My name is Thanos and I'm a sound enginieer-designer and I'm using the midas DP48 personal monitor for three months now and I'm satisfied. The problem is that the musicians need the mute function sometimes because I'm changing the inputs from the midas DL32 stagebox or I'm changing the instruments. Everytime I warn them to turn off the master volume because the mute function does not exist. Is there something better than this??? Is it available a firmware update with the mute function???

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    • than8329
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Thanos, the mute function is on the wishlist. No ETA at this point.
      • December 21, 2020
    • than8329
      joshtew I am facing this problem too!

      With default routing method of direct out connections from channels to AES50, muting the channels on the mixer doesn't mute any of the personal monitors nor analogue outputs from Hub4. I have stage monitor speakers connected to Hub 4 analogue outputs and this is sending the pop from cable connection/disconnection straight through!

      Will be helpful to have the option of tapping from "IN/LC +M" tap point.

      Will a feasible workaround be to send the guitar channels through P16 segment tapped from channels at "IN/LC +M" tap point?
      • December 26, 2020
      • DP48MUTE FUNCTION
        MichaelIvey Well Joshua another solution to this dilemma until it's an actual update from Midas would be to use a suggestion that resolved the issue "DP48 Playback for mixing IEM" used. What was suggested was making a LIVE A Snippet and a PLAYBACK B Snippet. The LIVE A Snippet can serve as the boards routing when Performing, Shows, and Recording. The PLAYBACK B Snippet could serve a dual purpose. Not only to route the card signals back thru AES50B for the DP48 but also since none of the LIVE A Input Channels are connected the board nor the speakers nor the IEMs will pass thru the "POP" because it's not routed.
        • Jan 4
      • DP48MUTE FUNCTION
        joshtew I opted to go P16 route as we may need to mute these instruments mid programme and there is no need to re-train our many volunteers sound engineers on what to do when they need to mute the instruments.
        • Jan 29
    • than8329
      than8329 Do we have any progress about the DP48 mute function???
      • Mar 22
      • DP48MUTE FUNCTION
        Paul_Vannatto The developers are aware of the mute request, but no ETA at this point.
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        • Mar 22
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    GregWarren
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-12-17

    Hello,

    I have 6 DP48s and have 2 Hub4s being shipped as we speak.

     

    My question, will I need 6 ethernet cables from the 2 Hub4s to each of the DP48s to power them (PoE) OR can you use 1 ethernet cable from the hub4 to the first one and then daisy chain them and get power to them without having to use the ac adapters?

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    • GregWarren
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Greg, if you want PoE, you will need 6 cables. The Thru AES50 jack on the DP48 does not supply the PoE, similar to the P16-M.
      • December 17, 2020
    • GregWarren
      GregWarren Okay...thanks...now how do I setup the IEMs with the hub 4s? What ports on the back do I use?
      • December 17, 2020
    • GregWarren
      Paul_Vannatto Looking at the back, from right to left are the ports outputs (1-4), mix A and B. Ports 1 and 2 mix A are XLR and the rest (port 1/2 mix B and all of port 3/4) are 1/4" TRS. You also need to enable each port output by pressing on the respective port button on the front panel (just below the Port 1-4 label).
      • December 17, 2020
      • Midas DP48 & Hub4
        GregWarren Ethercon shielded 5e or 6a?
        • December 18, 2020
      • Midas DP48 & Hub4
        Paul_Vannatto Hi Greg, shielded cat5e is getting harder to find here (in Canada). I have a mixure of shielded cat5e, cat6a and cat7. Anything that works between Behringer/Midas consoles and stageboxes should work with the Hub4 and DP48.
        • December 18, 2020
    • GregWarren
      MichaelIvey Hey Douglas. I feel your frustration as I did the same method you did and got the same results time after time after time. But here's what changed. Instead of saving the file in Excel where I created it I saved it to my Desktop. When given the option of the format to save it in I selected CSV UTF-8 (Comma delimited) (*.csv) again saving the file to my Desktop. Hope this works for you.
      • December 19, 2020
      • Midas DP48 & Hub4
        Paul_Vannatto What has this to do with our discussion here about the Hub4 and DP48?
        • December 19, 2020
  • New
    Rastoff
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-12-02

    I'm completely new to the DP48 and having an issue that I can't figure out.

    To add names to the groups, I've created a single line .csv file, comman delimited, and imported the names. For some reason the name for group 1 is blank. I've tried creating the file in Excel and Notepad with the same results using each.

    For example, this is the file I created:
    Keys,Mic 1,Mic 2,Mic 3,Bass,Drums,HH 1,HH 2,Gtr 1,Gtr 2,Click,Pads

    When I import this, I see this on the screen:

                    HH 1
    Mic 1        HH 2
    Mic 2        Gtr 1
    Mic 3        Gtr 2
    Bass         Click
    Drums      Pads

    I can't figure out why "Keys" is blank.

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    • Rastoff
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Douglas, what DP48 firmware are you using? I just tried your csv line on a DP48 here (with firmware 1.8) and it loads the group names correctly (including the first name). I would suggest you update (or re-install) to 1.8 and try again.
      • December 2, 2020
      • DP48 Group Names?
        Rastoff Thanks Paul, but I loaded 1.8 last night and still have the same issue. I have 4 DP48s and have tried this on two of them. I will try a different SD card and see if that makes a difference.
        • December 2, 2020
    • Rastoff
      MichaelIvey Hey Douglas. I feel your frustration as I did the same method you did and got the same results time after time after time. But here's what changed. Instead of saving the file in Excel where I created it I saved it to my Desktop. When given the option of the format to save it in I selected CSV UTF-8 (Comma delimited) (*.csv) again saving the file to my Desktop. Hope this works for you
      • December 19, 2020
  • New
    ScottRogers
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-11-12

    Hi all.

    I'm having difficullty getting the routing sorted with my Powerplay 16.  I have the stereo out feed coming out just fine from Logic.  I'm having difficulty getting it to play nicely with the UAD Console, though.  It only wants to give me the stereo mix and not the individual channels in the Console.

    Can someone help me with the routing?

    I'm attaching imaged of my routing in Logic and my routing in the UAD Console.

    Thanks in advance!

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    • ScottRogers
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Scott, there's something missing in your post about how you have Logic connected to the P16.
      • November 11, 2020
      • Trouble with Routing in a Powerplay 16
        ScottRogers ADAT out of an Apollo 8 and another 8 channels coming out of another converter (I'm in between units right now; my Ferrofish Pulse 16 arrives tomorrow, replacing an RME ADI 8).
        • November 11, 2020
      • Trouble with Routing in a Powerplay 16
        Paul_Vannatto Still something missing, since the Powerplay P16 has Ultranet input only.
        • November 11, 2020
    • ScottRogers
      DavidKnighton Hello ScottRogers,
      What exactly are you using to get from Logic to the P16-M? We would presume you're connected to an X32/M32 console, but how exactly is it all connected and routed?
      • November 12, 2020
    • ScottRogers
      ScottRogers Apologies. I’m using a P16-I to feed to the P16-M. I hadn’t realized there was any other option for using the system.
      • November 12, 2020
      • Trouble with Routing in a Powerplay 16
        DavidKnighton Hello Scott, so you're using the ADAT input on the P16-I, correct? I believe the issue you're having is going to be the routing from UAD. The P16-I in this scenario is just spitting out what the UAD is giving. For this, I would recommend jumping over to the UAD forums, as we cannot support the UAD product directly. If I had some working knowledge on UAD products, I'd be glad to help, but unfortunately we don't really specialize in their product knowledge.
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        • November 12, 2020
      • Trouble with Routing in a Powerplay 16
        ScottRogers Hi David. I'm certain that the issue is the routing out of either the UAD console or in Logic, and I have gotten some help configuring it this far via UAD and Logic forums. I just wondered if maybe someone on this forum may have the same configuration, since it's far more likely I'd find someone in a forum for Powerplay users who might also have an Apollo and use Logic. Ah well.
        • November 12, 2020
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    raymielson10
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-11
    MARCA: BEHRINGER
    MODELO: MEDIA 40USB
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    • raymielson10
      WilliamR Hello, William from Musictribe here. If you click on the support tab and create a parts ticket, someone can help you out with this
      • November 11, 2020
    • raymielson10
      WilliamR Hola, William de Musictribe aquí. Si hace clic en la pestaña de soporte y crea un ticket de piezas, alguien puede ayudarlo con esto.
      • November 11, 2020
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    elvis1979
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-03

    I have a question: Will it be possible to connect any devices other than DP48 and DL8 to the AES50 ports? E.g. DL153, SD8 ..... :)

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    • elvis1979
      GaryHiggins I would say yes, they are aes50 streams so as long as the stagebox is capable of 44/48k they should work just fine. The SD8 for sure and I think the DL153 can do 48k ok so it should be fine as well. The blue series Midas boxes that can do 48k will not daisy chain beyond their immediate connection, so you can't then piggy back from them like the S/SD16 etc. They would have to be the only device on that port but should still work.
      • November 3, 2020
    • elvis1979
      elvis1979 That would be great. Couldn't someone try it, for example, with the DL15 stagebox ...? Whether it really works
      • November 3, 2020
      • HUB4 ports
        GaryHiggins I would love to...but in the US they have not arrived yet! Unreal but quite true,....waiting for mine at Sweetwater....oh yeah and I don't own a 153 :-)
        • November 3, 2020
      • HUB4 ports
        elvis1979 hm
        • November 3, 2020
      • HUB4 ports
        GaryHiggins As fate would have it. got notice today Wed 11/4) that the Hub4 has arrive3d in the US, should have one in a few days..
        • November 4, 2020
    • elvis1979
      elvis1979 I have a question: Could this work?
      • November 3, 2020
      • HUB4 ports
        GaryHiggins I don't see why not, one dl153 from each port...however that's 48 mic pre's and the M32 can only use a max of 38 IF you use aux remap, 32 otherwise-so you would need to pick and choose which ones you use.
        • November 3, 2020
      • HUB4 ports
        GaryHiggins Now looking at it more closely, I'm not sure the Hub can pass all ch's upstream like a stagebox. Guess someone who owns one will have to tell us! It still may but I am unsure.
        • November 3, 2020
      • HUB4 ports
        elvis1979 Yes, that's why I put it here. Hoping that there is someone who has HUB4 and would be able to comment
        The manufacturer states that the ports are only used to power the DP48 and DL8, so is it really so? Could someone from the manufacturer comment
        • November 3, 2020
    • elvis1979
      GaryHiggins From the web page it still sounds like it SHOULD work "4 PoE Ports for Personal Mixers or Compatible Stage Boxes, 48/44.1 kHz AES50 In and Through"
      • November 3, 2020
    • elvis1979
      elvis1979 Rather, the question is whether this one port can stream more than 8 channels? Because if not, then it probably doesn't matter :(
      • November 3, 2020
      • HUB4 ports
        GaryHiggins I think if only 8 ch's they would have said that....or not mentioned stageboxes at all. AES50 is 48 ch's. I think when they say compatible they mean NOT 96k. Someone else will chime in.
        • November 3, 2020
  • AJC3708
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-10-28

    Looking for thoughts and reccomendations for a wireless in ear monitor system to use with an X-Air 16. What seems to work and what doesn't? The venues are intimate spaces but with nicer weather they often want to move outdoors which makes it difficult for performers to hear.

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    • AJC3708
      Paul_Vannatto Hi AJ, I got the Carvin EM900 system for a tribute band lead singer last summer and she loved it.
      • October 28, 2020
  • Floramo
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-10-16

    salve ho appena acquistato questo prodotto behringer dr115dsp collego il bluetooth e non si sente la musica , collego il cavo e non si sente la musica cosa sbaglio?

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    • Floramo
      JasonB81 Hello - The speaker may have a defect or issue - if you are connecting everything according to the manual with no results than I suggest you click the support tab above and make a tech support ticket for further assistance. Thank you
      • October 16, 2020
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