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  • paulie303808
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-30

    Hi 

    wanted to start by saying really love the rd-8, the sound of it is brilliant. I am just getting started really and starting to learn some things about it. when I began using it I was trying to program song data live with my other synths connected via midi. I wanted to switch from song 1 to song 2 live and for all the song data to switch when I make this change. I discovered that it was set so that if I changed songs without pressing stop I couldn't go to the next songs specific song/pattern data. I had to press stop then load the song, then press play. I am interested in performing with the rd8 setup in such a way that I can switch songs live without pressing stop, for all the data of the next song to be loaded including the bpm change without pressing stop. is this possible? I was hoping so as this is why I have the rd-8 as a master, my other synths don't change the bpm when I change songs live.

    the other thing I noticed is that the decay on the rd8s kickdrum seems to not be constant? It's appears to have some sort of probability variation on the decay of the kick? Can I change this so that the kick has its decay level set to be consistent across all patterns in a song? And can I change the decay, tuning and tone for each song and save that into the song data?

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    • paulie303808
      paulie303808 is what I need to do here called "song chaining"? would this switch tracks without a break in the audio and it would switch to the next songs saved bpm?
      • August 31, 2020
    • paulie303808
      paulie303808 and if I did this would I be able to postpone the switch to the next song in the song chain if the performance needs to go on for longer? and could I skip to the next song quicker if I need to? or do I have to work within the time limit of the chained patterns?
      • August 31, 2020
  • graesserph
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-15

    Hi. When you set the Flam preference (setttings > clock > flam preference) to "per pattern", and then having two patterns, pattern1 with flam property = 24, and pattern2 with flam = 0. When you now switch from pattern1 to pattern2 while the sequencer is running, then you'd expect the flam being set to 0 right before step 1 starts to play. But instead, step 1 in pattern 2 plays with flam = 24 and then sets it to 0. So actually, only from step 2 onwards the flam is correctly set. I'm on the latest firmware 1.3.5.

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    • graesserph
      NicJonesMT Hi Graesserph
      Sorry for the delay in contacting you!
      With regard to the above, can you confirm what FW version you are running please and if you have tried a factory reset on the RD-8?
      • August 18, 2020
      • RD-8 : Flam per pattern issue
        graesserph Thanks for your answer, Nic. As written in the OP already. I'm on firmware 1.3.5. The firmware update was the first I did after unboxing the device. No, I did not try a factory reset. Can you please tell me how you come to the opinion that a factory reset would fix a timing problem? For me as a developer of musical software, this looks just like a bug in the firmware.
        • August 18, 2020
      • RD-8 : Flam per pattern issue
        NicJonesMT Hi Andreas. We need to exhaust all options to ensure there are no setup issues, which is why we always recommend checking FW and performing a reset first.
        The steps for a reset can be found here;

        https://musictribecommunity.powerappsportals.com/en-us/knowledgebase/article/KA-01073/en-us

        If you still experience this issue then can you please open a technical support ticket.
        • August 19, 2020
      • RD-8 : Flam per pattern issue
        graesserph Hi Nic
        Firmware is 1.3.5. I also did a factory reset. No difference, the behavior is the same.

        >>>> If you still experience this issue then can you please open a technical support ticket.
        Where can I do that? Even though, a bug report would probably be the better choice.
        Is there any way to report a bug?
        I can also send you sysex files with 1) the device settings and 2) the two patterns to reproduce the problem.
        The point is that the per pattern settings get applied to the new pattern "after" the first step was fired. And therefore the first step of the new pattern still has the per pattern settings of the old pattern.

        I'm pretty sure that this bug does not only affect the flame value. It's more likely that it affects all per pattern parameters. If there's a way, please pass this on to the developers.
        • August 19, 2020
      • RD-8 : Flam per pattern issue
        NicJonesMT Hi Andreas. Press support at the top and create a ticket. set the ticket type to Technical support.
        We can then gather information and report this to the development team.
        • August 20, 2020
      • RD-8 : Flam per pattern issue
        graesserph Done.. Thanks a lot for your help, Nic.
        • August 21, 2020
  • graesserph
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-15

    Hopefully someone of Behringer reads this...

    First of all, thank you for this incredible piece of hardware. I just love it!

    There's one thing I'd suggest for some future firmware update:

    If you start with a 16 steps pattern and program a basic beat, and then increase the length to 32 or 64 steps, the extended steps are all empty. So in other words, you have a beat on steps 1-16, but all extended steps from step 17 onwards are entirely empty.

    This is 1) quite tedious, as you have to copy the entire sequence manually step by step to the extended bars, and 2) makes no sense from any musical point of view. If you enlarge a pattern, then in 99% of all cases you want the existing sequence be "unrolled" to the additional steps.

    Can you please consider the following:

    Whenever the pattern length gets increased by the user, let the user decide if the already created bars should be copied or not. E.g. setting the pattern length with a short tap to the step button = do not copy, just set the length, but setting the pattern length with a long press to the step button = copy the the previous 16 (or less) steps in a musically logical way (if possible). 

    However, if this feature exists already in some way and I've just missed it, I'd be thankful for a hint where to find it.

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    • graesserph
      NicJonesMT Hi Graesserph,
      Sorry again for the delay!
      With regard to your suggestion, In theory I think this makes sense, where if you extend your pattern it should give you the option to copy a set amount of beats to the extended section.
      I will pass your comments along to our dev team and see if it is something that can be incorporated in the future.

      All the best!
      • August 18, 2020
      • RD-8 : Copying Bars when increasing pattern length
        graesserph Thanks a lot, Nic . Hopefully it will be incorporated in some future release.
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  • sam08
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-07-08
    Hello, I received my unit a few weeks ago and been playing with it ever since, after updating the firmware to 1.3.5. I've noticed a rather loudish, high-pitched click on the attack of the "first" five voices – kick, snare and the three toms, that is. It shows up consistently when the voice is triggered, either via the sequencer and via manual trigger. I've uploaded some audio samples where the clicks can be clearly heard here: https://soundcloud.com/aetherotopies/sets/rd8-samples (recorded from the pgm mono out, filter and wave designer bypassed – even though there's the same issue on the phones output) Another odd behaviour occurs on the hand clap. Every once in a while it's as if the offset didn't affect the sound at all, i.e. if the offset knob were turned CW completely. Sometimes it's just not there, some others it seems to fire with some lag. I tried comparing to other users' RDs and mine seems to behave differently. I was wondering if it might be defective? Thanks.
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  • peabody
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-06-13
    Is it at all possible to copy a pattern from one song into the pattern of another song? i.e. copy pattern 1 from song 3 to pattern 8 of song 2.
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    • peabody
      NicJonesMT Hi Peabody. This is covered on Page 10 of the User Manual

      https://mediadl.musictribe.com/media/PLM/data/docs/P0DG5/RHYTHM%20DESIGNER%20RD-8_M_EN.pdf
      • July 15, 2020
    • peabody
      rauscharm Hi everybody,
      The lines below (they are the originals
      from the manual) are to copy a pattern
      from Song B, Pattern X
      to Song C, Pattern Y
      as I understand.

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      1. Press COPY.
      2. Next select the source song with the pattern you wish to copy.
      3. Then press PATTERN.
      4. Next select the pattern you wish to copy from the source song via the
      step keys.
      5. Press COPY.
      6. Select destination pattern to copy to via step keys, this copies the source into
      this pattern in the current song.
      7. Press COPY to execute the operation.
      ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

      But I can't get it to work.
      I can copy a pattern within the same song,
      copying to another song doesn't work for me.

      Did anybody and it worked? Please let me know.
      • August 22, 2020
      • RD-8 pattern copying
        NicJonesMT Hi there.
        Sorry for the delay in contacting you.
        I misread PeaBody's original post.
        It is not possible to copy patterns between songs. You can just copy them to an alternative slot in the same song.

        I have submitted this as a feature request.
        • August 25, 2020
      • RD-8 pattern copying
        graesserph You can do it with a trick.
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        1. Select the Source Song
        2. Press PLAY in Song Operation
        3. Select the Destination Song while the sequencer is running (dest song just blinks, but doesn's switch).
        4. Press COPY.
        5. Then press PATTERN.
        6. Next select the pattern you wish to copy from the source song via the
        step keys.
        7. Press COPY.
        8. Press STOP - This results in the song being switched to the pre-selected (blinking) one from step 3.
        9. Select destination pattern to copy to via step keys, this copies the source into
        this pattern in the "current" (which is now the destination) song.
        10. Press COPY to execute the operation.
        ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

        Or dump the pattern as sysex, then edit the sysex file and change the song number, and finally import the sysex again.
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