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  • 2020-07-15
    Hi, The stereo Klark Teknik DI 10P features one L+R RCA and one 3.5mm (stereo) inputs. Can all inputs be simultaneously used so the 4 channels are summed to build a single mono signal ? I'm hesitant to try it. I wouldn't like to damage the DI. Thanks in advance.
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    • Jose Gonzalez
      Rex Beckett As I understand it, the RCA and 3.5mm sockets are connected directly together. This would not be a good way to sum two stereo sources but it is more likely to damage the sources than the DI 10P. You would get much better results by using a small stereo mixer to sum the sources.
      • Jul 15
    • Jose Gonzalez
      Jose Gonzalez For those interested, here is the reply received by the support specialist: "You could use all inputs at the same time but I wouldn't recommend it to prevent overdriving the passive circuitry. Instead, If you need to use more than one source, plug your sources into a small mixer. Take the mixer's outputs and connect them to one of the stereo inputs of the DI. This will also allow for better control of your individual sources."
      • Jul 17
  • 2020-07-15
    Hi, In the stereo Klark Teknik DI 10P every input channel has an attenuation knob. Product documentation mentions that knobs at fully clockwise position means no attenuation. What's the max attenuation achievable (ie. set fully counter clockwise) in dBV ? Thanks in advance.
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    • Jose Gonzalez
      Jose Gonzalez The level knobs of the DI 10P are relative to the signals input into the device. You can relate the 0 to 10 scale to 0% to 100%. So, it will take the signal and attenuate it down the percentage amount you choose of the signal coming in.
      • Jul 16
    • Jose Gonzalez
      Jose Gonzalez Reply received from Customer Quality Support Specialist
      • Jul 16
  • 2019-11-30

    My hurdy gurdy has four magnetic pickups and a xlr connector per pickup.

    For the moment I play through a Behringer XR18, without any preamp.

    It works, but the gain has to be rather high. Using external effects this results in noise.

    Can I use something like the Klark Teknik CM- 2 as preamp to boost the signal before entering the mixer.

    Any other suggestion is welcome, I am a bit of a dummy concerning sound technique.

     

    thanks,

     

    Pieter

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    • Pieter Lauwers
      Dave Morrison

      @PieterLauwers 


      Maybe. It depends on your setup. Where are you using external effect and what effects are they? The XR18 already has very good preamps. I suspect your are using effects before the the mixer and the type of effect and it's input and output requirements maybe the source of your problem.


      With a little more information, we can give you some advice.

      • November 30, 2019
    • Pieter Lauwers
      Pieter Lauwers

      Example:


      - used effect: EHX Big Muff


      - routing: instrument in, routed to aux, aux in effect, effect out plugged in mixer.


      So, since the effect is plugged in after the input, the problem is with the effect ( tried Boss Overdrive also) or with the gain settings.


      ( I definitely play a lot better then I am in setting the electronics up!)

      • November 30, 2019
    • Pieter Lauwers
      Dave Morrison

      @PieterLauwers 


      The way you have it setup makes sense for your apllication. The problem is a level and impedance mismatch between the mixer's line level output and the pedal's guitar level input.


      Even if you can get the level low enough, the impedance mismatch will mess with your tone. An line level to guitar level converter (also known as  re-amp) will solve that problem.


      Have you tried the mixer's built in Guitar Amp simulator and Tube Stage emulator. You can insert them in a (pair of) channel(s) to get very good amp simulation. Give it a try and see if you like it, or get a re-amp box.

      • November 30, 2019
    • Pieter Lauwers
      Pieter Lauwers

      I use the Tube Stage emulator as an effect on both melody strings.


      so, probably, I will need a reamp box.


      If I understand it right:


      - the effects I use are guitar effects, build for guitar impedance, not mixer line impedance


      - in order to fix noise problems with my outside effect string the mixer's line impedance has to be tempered, ergo the ReAmp.


      Did I say that right? (Still trying to understand the mystic ways of a mixer)


      Thanks!

      • November 30, 2019
    • Pieter Lauwers
      Dave Morrison

      @PieterLauwers 


      Impedance and really hot levels are the problems. The Radial ProRMP would be a very solid interface, It's got a sweet little transformer that will make your pedals happy. The are many other fine brands of course.


      As a bonus: After you record your parts, you can use your re-amp to manipulate your tracks after they are recorded,

      • November 30, 2019
  • 2019-11-24

    I want to run 8 channels out from ableton, using the DN9630, through aes50 into my x32, and routed to my aux ins 1-8. Can that be done with this device, and how to I set up the routing with this? 

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    • Andrew White
      Dave Morrison

      Hi @AWhite 


      To send 8 channels of 48k audio from Ableton to the X32, send the channels you want from Ableton on separate USB channels (eg. 1-8). Assuming you send USB 1-8, you'll want to assign AES50 (A or B) channels 1-8 to eight input channels. This would be the routing: Routing:Inputs: Channels. For example, you could put those 8 channels on X32 channels 25-32.Screen Shot 2019-11-24 at 5.50.28 PM.png


      Of course, you could alternately put them on 1-8, 9-16, or 17-24.  The DN9630 will sync to the X32 through AES50 and Ableton will sync to the DN9630.

      • November 24, 2019
    • Andrew White
      Andrew White

      Is there an option to route them to 33-40 (aux ins) Maybe that's what you are showing in the image, but would I thin loose 8 ins on the 1-32?

      • November 24, 2019
    • Andrew White
      Dave Morrison

      @AWhite 


      You can remap those the Aux inputs but Aux In remap is limited to 6 channels. That's why I didn't mention it.

      • November 24, 2019
  • 2019-07-17
    Hi, the DN9630 is an AES50 <-> USB interface and this is the closest forum I could find. Does this device really only support 48k and 96k? Doesn't support 44.1 nor 88.2?
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    • Paul Lowndes
      Paul Lowndes Answering my own question here - no, it does not support 44.1 -- only 48/96
      • July 17, 2019
    • Paul Lowndes
      Chase Mcknight

      Hi @gtcode 


      Yes, only 96kHz / 48 kHz. The idea behind the DN9630 was to be a lower-cost recording/playback option mainly geared towards our Midas PRO Series users. Prior to the DN9630, users would need to incorportate a Klark Teknik DN9650 w/ Dante or KT-USB card options (or third-party RPM Dynamics interfaces), which are quite expensive if you're simply looking to track shows or use for virtual sound check. 

      The 48kHz option further add to the market for our M/X32 users -- as most people are using the 48kHz sample rate. Further, many of our 'Blue' DL15x, DL25x, DL231 Stageboxes only operate at 96/48 kHz so this is in line with those product ranges. 

      • July 19, 2019
    • Paul Lowndes
      Paul Lowndes Thanks for your honesty here, However, in responding, you've implied that "it would cost too much to support 44.1k" and "(basically) nobody uses it anyway". Yet, the M32 supports 44.1k, and people do use 44.1k. The DN9630 should have been designed accordingly.
      • July 19, 2019
    • Paul Lowndes
      Chase Mcknight

      Hi @gtcode 

      Apologies, it really wasn't meant to be implied that way. Nearly all AES50 peripherals relating to PRO Series only 96kHz and 48kHz, such as the DN9680, DN9650, DN9620, DN9610, All 'Blue' I/O boxes, and lastly the DN9630. For M/X32 users, I think the majority of applications where a DN9630 would be used would be in the DN32-USB card is replaced with somethng like the DN32-DANTE card -- and typically users set the sample rate to 48kHz. 

      Although it sounds like you were looking for a 44.1kHz solution and in that case, I understand your frustration. 

      • July 19, 2019
    • Paul Lowndes
      Dale Minaker We have an article on this as it gets asked from time to time, https://musictribecommunity.powerappsportals.com/en-us/knowledgebase/article/KA-01573
      • Jun 24