Thank you for the fast response and solid logical/technical explanation William, I appreciate that. It may not seem like much but that's actually a BIG DEAL. In fact that's one of the key features that I selected the Flashback2x4 over many other delay looper pedals on the market. When I was doing research there are only a few videos out there for FB2x4 but several for the FBx4 showing people looping the delayed signal and everything out there made the 2x4 seem to be the same thing only with more features and more tone print slots, not less of anything not a single product video mentioned loosing any key features.... I don't want to have to only loop my bypassed signal I want to get a rhythm going with one of those beautiful bouncy delays in that giant box and loop it! If I cant do that it makes the looper mode useless to me as I still need another delay pedal in my chain ahead of it to not sound dry... that's kind of a design flaw and I may as well stick to using my computer for loops I was hoping this would allow me to loop without the computer and perform with only hardware If I had realized this I probably would have gone with the Flashback Triple Delay instead and just use a dedicated looper as I still need 2 pedals to be able to loop my delayed signal. I understand from a marketing standpoint you don't ever want to mention that the new version is missing something or has lost features, but I do feel that I was not presented with all the information I needed to make the most informed decision, so instead of feeling super satisfied with my purchase I am left feeling like I could have made a better choice, and at the end of the day may have purchased the more expensive model (better for you) and been super satisfied with it (better for me), with that said I still really like the pedal and I do think it sounds great, I like all the user presets and customizability, stereo and midi are all features I will use so its not like I have buyers remorse, I just wish it did the other thing I bought it to do. Just thought I would let you know my perspective to consider when making technical and design choices in the future also the biggest improvement any company can do to a looper is the ability to quantize loop start and stop to the tap tempo or external MIDI world clock so your loops perfectly sync with the DAW, synth, or rest of the bands loopers. If you could loop your delayed signal and have it locked in with other hardware/software in use this pedal would be ABSOULTLY PERFECT! I understand that's asking a lot and may not be possible for the size or without costing significantly more, but I don't think you will regret moving in that direction next. Thank you for your time and assistance.