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    Craig71
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-10-03

    G'day

    have an interesting issue with my M32R Live at church. Somehow the mixbuses have ended up patched to DCA 1&2 ,also the mixbuses 1 through to 4 which i use for my foldbacks are not controlling master volume on the bus and the only way to adjust mix volume through the mixbuses is individual channel level.All this has come to pass since we upgraded the snake to a DL 16,any thoughts?

    Cheers Craig

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    • Craig71
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Craig, that sounds like a routing issue. The best way to troubleshoot it is to export your scene to a file using either the Utility button on the console or using M32-Edit. Then upload that file to the cloud (Google Drive, Dropbox, etc.) and post a shareable link. That way we can have a look at your setup and better advise.
      • Oct 3
    • Craig71
      Craig71

      Thanks Pal will do

      • Oct 4
    • Craig71
      Craig71 Hi Paul, everything is fairly well sorted now.It was a routing issue and I worked my way through the signal paths.Will be updating the desk to latest software also . thanks for the heads up on looking at routing.
      • Oct 9
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    kylegbenson
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-09-28

    I'm currently getting inconsistent performance on a couple of inputs on the DL16 Stage Box. Specifically, the overall gain levels drastically vary from week to week as it's used primarly on Sundays at church. To clarify, the parameters themselves don't vary, but rather I encounter significantly decreased input signal. I've ruled out mics and cables..i.e. input 1 causes trouble so I move it to input 9 and it's fine. Do you think a firmware update will solve this problem? My m32 console is current.

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    joshdrums
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-10-24

    Hi dear music-lovers,

    me and my band are currently using a mr18 for our rehearsals and are very happy with it (easy mixing, monitor setup and recording if wanted...). So yesterday i was chatting with a FOH engineer who is into Behringer tech and we came across the Ultranet feature of the mixers. We had the idea to use the MR18 as a stagebox (for monitor mix only), so the band has the monitor setup in our hands only, and the FOH tech has nothing to do with it. So we would be able to record live shows, if the FOH tech is too lazy or something and could use our presets from the rehearsals as a bese-setting.

    Today i searched for the needed settings, but wasnt able to find an "Ultranet In" option in the Routing menu of the MR18. Also there is nothing to find in the manual and elsewhere. I know that the Ultranet feature of the MR18 is thought to be used with the personal stage monitors P16 or so, and that we are able to simply use the features of the FOH mixer, but i find the idea very interesting for myself...

    In short: FOH mixer(eg. X32) sends available chanels via Ultranet to MR18, MR18 uses Ultranet as input. Is that possible? Are there other possibilities where we as band are flexible and independet in an similar way?

     

    Thanks for your replies or suggestions :)  

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    • joshdrums
      Paul_Vannatto Ultranet on both X32/M32 and X-Air/M-Air consoles are output only. Only the P16 and some Turbosound speakers (eg. iQ10, etc.) have input ports. So what you are wanting to do is not currently possible with the XR18/MR18. An alternative is to upgrade to an X32 Rack.
      • Oct 24
    • joshdrums
      joshdrums Thanks for your Reply. I see that this feature is something for the professional productline. But hopefully there is something in the making to bring this to the smaller products. For my understanding this could be added to the Firmware, maybe that someone could switch the port between Input/Output. But maybe the feature is not wanted in the product.
      • Oct 24
    • joshdrums
      JemPot I'm brand new here but am in a similar environment (XR18, band, Rehearsal monitors, in ears etc).
      • Oct 24
    • joshdrums
      JemPot I thought the app was able to take care of in ear or monitor bus requirements anyway? Or am I off on a tangent?
      • Oct 24
    • joshdrums
      joshdrums

      @JemPot yeah you are a bit off. The Mr18 stand-alone works just fine With all its features and the App. Im looking for a Solution in a live environment where i have the signal of the instruments in my mr18 and in the FOH Mixer. Therefor i thought about the behringer ultranet, Bit this seems not to be possible

      • Oct 24
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    davep54
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-10-07

    I just need to know the configuration on the aes50 cabeling and and how to send all my  outputs from the dl32. I so far have no problem getting all the inputs to both consoles but the outputs are a problem.I wanted to ust xlr out 7 and 8 as my m32C foh mix output and 15 and 16 for x32  for foh in another room. Aslo wanted to send buss mixes 1-6 out of dl32 for monitor sends from x32.

    Hope this make sense. This routing system makes no sense to me and I'm not new here.

    I thought the newer firmware would make it easier and for inputs it does but I cant make sense of the output section.

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    • davep54
      Paul_Vannatto Unfortunately your description of your outputs is unclear. Also you didn't provide your interconnectivity mapping (how everything is connected together). For example:
      X32 [B] <-> [A] M32C [B] <-> [A] DL32
      • Oct 7
    • davep54
      davep54 I didn't provide mapping cuz that is what i'm looking for to start. then i need to figure how to get the routing where I need it. so I will explain again. I have an X32 at Foh that will get its inputs from DL32 at the stage. that x32 will provide house l+r and 6 monitor sends to stage where dl 32 is. Then I have an M32C at the stage that will get its inputs from the DL32 also. I need the M32C to send the its l + r outputs out of The DL 32 and the X32 Also to send l +r out plus the 6 monitor sends out of the dl32. The M32C is Basically mixing for a different room but all the outs from both boards ar coming from the dl32. Hope this is more clear.
      • Oct 7
    • davep54
      Paul_Vannatto Your second description is much clearer. The interconnectivity mapping I provided will work for your scenario. Give me a bit of time to work out the routing. Which console do you want to control the DL32 preamps?
      • Oct 7
    • davep54
      davep54 The X32
      • Oct 7
    • davep54
      Paul_Vannatto Here you go Dave.

      Interconnectivity mapping ([A] and [B] are AES50 ports)
      X32 [B] <-> [A] M32C [B] <-> [A] DL32

      X32 and M32C
      Routing, Inputs
      * Inputs 1-8 -> AES50 B1-8
      * Inputs 9-16 -> AES50 B9-16
      * Inputs 17-24 -> AES50 B17-24
      * Inputs 25-32 -> AES50 B25-32

      Routing, Out 1-16 (setting up a bank of 8)
      * Output 1 -> bus 1 (post)
      * Output 2 -> bus 2 (post)
      ... (etc)
      * Output 6 -> bus 6 (post)
      * Output 7 -> Main L (post)
      * Output 8 -> Main R (post)

      X32
      Routing, AES50 B (to M32C)
      * Outputs 1-8 -> Out 1-8 (X32 outputs)

      Routing, XLR Out (outputs on the back of the X32 console)
      * Outputs 1-4 -> AES50 B33-36 (M32C outputs)
      * Outputs 5-8 -> AES50 B37-40 (M32C outputs)

      M32C
      Routing, AES50 A (to X32)
      * Outputs 1-8 -> AES50 B1-8 (DL32 inputs)
      * Outputs 9-16 -> AES50 B9-16 (DL32 inputs)
      * Outputs 17-24 -> AES50 B17-24 (DL32 inputs)
      * Outputs 25-32 -> AES50 B25-32 (DL32 inputs)
      * Outputs 33-40 -> Out 1-8 (M32 outputs)

      Routing, AES50 B (to DL32 outputs)
      * Outputs 1-8 -> AES50 A1-8 (X32 outputs)
      * Outputs 9-16 -> Out 1-8 (M32 outputs)

      Typically the console closest to the stagebox has control of the preamps. To relinquish control of M32C to X32, select HA Remote AES50 A, on the M32C Setup, preamps screen.

      If you want digital trims on both of the consoles, also select the HA Gain Split. That will mean that the X32 console will have to control the actual DL32 gains on its Setup, preamps screen.
      • Oct 7
  • aftermid
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-10-01

    Ok,

      I've been trying this now for many months.  Maybe it can't be done, the way I want to do it.  I am sending out from my Pro Tools and Logic into the Midas.  I'd like to use the Midas preamps and effects and take that whole mix and send it back to Pro Tools or Logic via the DN32 card.  Can this be done, without making physical cable connection in the back of the board?  I've experimented with all kinds of routing possiblilities.  All my tracks come in to their respective faders in the Midas.  Now, I want to send this back to print to a stereo track in Pro Tools/Logic.  What am I missing?  I am sure I am doing something wrong in the routing.

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    • aftermid
      Paul_Vannatto There is no wireless audio option for the M32. You will need to connect a USB cable from the DN32 to the computer (with the DAW). If you want to "take that whole mix and send it back to Pro Tools or Logic via the DN32 card", on the Routing, Out 1-16 screen, assign Main L to Output 1 and Main R to Output 2. Then on the Routing, Card screen, assign Out 1-8 to Outputs 1-8. That will send Main L/R to the DAW on USB 1/2
      • Oct 1
      • Routing Back To DAW
        aftermid Thanks, Paul, I'll try that. I wasn't too clear. I was running the USB from the DN32. What was throwing me was, I thought the default for the Mains on the M32 were 15/16, at least when I look at the meters, that's where it shows up.
        • Oct 1
      • Routing Back To DAW
        aftermid Ok, Paul tried that, but I get massive feed back on 1/2. This is i because I have some instruments coming into 1/2. So, then I did the same thing as above assigning to 15/16, but I get no signal on my 15/16 input on my DAW.
        • Oct 1
      • Routing Back To DAW
        aftermid On the Card in of the M32 I got 1-16 used by Logic. So Logic is sending 16 tracks via the card to 1-16 on the M32. If I, for example assign my Print track on Logic to 13-14, it will only record the instruments coming in on 13-14 and neglect the rest of the mix. Am I routing this correctly? I'd like to use the M32 faders and M32 effects, create my mix and send that mix to a stereo track in Logic.
        • Oct 1
    • aftermid
      Paul_Vannatto You didn't explain in your first post that you were sending tracks from your DAW to the M32. That is why you got a feedback, due to a loop created when sending everything back to the DAW. The best thing to do is to export your scene (either using the Utility button on the console or use the export of X32-Edit) to a file, save it to the cloud (eg. Google Drive, Dropbox, etc.) and post the shareable link. That way we can have a look at how you have the M32 setup and better advise.
      • Oct 1
    • aftermid
      aftermid I just downloaded the x32 Edit, I never used it before. It shows up as an application in the downloads, but not in the Apps section of the computer. You have to execute it from the downloads folder. Is that the way it usually works? If I export it using the utility function, can it be attached here?
      • Oct 1
    • aftermid
      Paul_Vannatto If you are using a Mac, drag the app from the Downloads folder to the Applications folder. Unfortunately only in the original post of a thread can accept attachments. That is why you need to upload to the cloud and provide a shareable link.
      • Oct 2
    • aftermid
      aftermid I will create a new Post Called M32 Stereo Return. I'll put the attachment there.
      • Oct 2
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