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  • LukeTheMore
    Contributor - Level 2
    2010-01-18
    Hi everyone ...


    I just buyed, cleaned, updated and installed the G-Sytem (I came from G-Major, G-Force and Nova System)


    How many of you use the internal Wah of G-System controlled with expression pedal ? Do you "like" its sound ?


    Do you use you Dunlop / Vox / Morley pedal ?



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    • LukeTheMore
      CodyCass1 I didn't like the G wah, so I bought a Cry Baby gcb- 95 and modded it =-) I also like the Mark Tremonti Morely Wah
      • January 18, 2010
    • LukeTheMore
      TS808 I have just recently started up using the wha.

      I'm used to the standard crybaby GCB95.

      Find the g-systems wha fairly good but I havn't been abel to get the right feeling.

      I use the original Crybaby as expression pedal (Removed the PCB and rewired the POT).

      The expression pedal control is fine (calibrated to 0-70 in pedal menu), but i find the sound a bit synthetic like the filter is too perfect and a bit too linear (difficult to explain)

      The wha is limited to a MIN sweep value of 20 a mid point of 60 and a max of 100(expression control)
      • January 18, 2010
    • LukeTheMore
      DNAwithoutheat Morley bad horsie all the way. Picking up the second version next month. Cant wait.



      It has a buffer circuit in to convert to low impedance.





      R
      • January 18, 2010
    • LukeTheMore
      Roomservice Bad Horsie II for me. Tried the G Wah but just didn't feel right for me. Having said that, this post has got me thinking I could use the exp pedal for a more crybaby-ish wah perhaps....
      • January 18, 2010
    • LukeTheMore
      MarcoR I have a classic Crybaby and a BYOC modded wah but I have grown to really like the wah in the g-system.



      It took alot of experimenting with the min, mid and max sweep to get a feel that felt right. I also have these setting different on clean and high gain patches.



      For a clean funky wah, try the high setting with the sweep set min: 18 mid 28 and max 92.



      I'm using the rocktron hex pedal that has just a little more throw than a regular wah pedal.
      • January 18, 2010
  • mproshkin
    Contributor - Level 2
    2010-01-16
    Hi,

    sorry my poor english...

    I have Nova System with G-switch
    When I switch between presets with OD/DIST I hear 1/4-1/2 sec gap in sound.
    Also the preset sound actualy activated in several moments after G-switch knob has released.
    Somebody face this issue?
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    • mproshkin
    • mproshkin
      re I think this is normal. it's exactly how my switch behaves. not so cool but I've managed to work around. I don't use novas drive.
      • January 17, 2010
    • mproshkin
      mproshkin You right: not so cool...
      • January 17, 2010
    • mproshkin
      davidp158 Considering how radical the change can be from one preset to another, there is a LOT of computing that has to take place before the audio can be processed with the new preset. Do other similarly priced multi-effect pedal board do preset changes with zero delay?



      Q: How often you need a seamless preset change within a song?



      I can see the need to switch from a rhythm preset to a lead/solo preset and back, but I never need to do it seamlessly. Musical preferences aside, but producing non stop "sound" when making changes in presets doesn't seem very musical. No offense intended, btw.
      • February 8, 2010
    • mproshkin
      Spidermind I've noticed that lag when changing from distortion to overdrive and viceversa, changing between two presets using the same effect (OD/Dist), has not given me lag (maybe because there were subtle changes like compression, dist levels and reverb). That's what I recall, I don't have my nova near me to check this one out, but give it a try
      • February 9, 2010
  • Musicman20
    Contributor - Level 2
    2010-01-10
    Hey

    Im looking for advice regarding which TC cabs I should pair with the RH450.

    I was going to go for 2 x RS210, but it seems the RS210 + RS212 is very popular.

    I play mainly rock, a little finger funk, and punk. It depends what band I am playing in

    What would you recommend? Is the RS212 still quite easy to move around?

    What is the official weights on these cabinets? Ive seen a few different specs with the UK dealers.

    I have tested the RS210 + 212 and it was fantastic...I just wanted to know if its a good choice.

    Thanks
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  • cheopsnet
    Contributor - Level 2
    2010-01-05
    Hi,

    I own a bass but no amp (no cab, no head). I am thinking about just getting the RH450 head (without any cab) and using the headphones to practice with/without Ipod.

    I was told by a guitar store guy that, even if you want to use the RH450 with headphones, you need to connect the head to a cab (even if you do not use the cab). Is it true? Or can I just connect the bass to the head and the head to headphones (without owning any cab)?

    The manual is not clear on that.

    Thanks

    Cheops ([email protected])
    My guitar/bass rig: http://steinwayguitars.blogspot.com/
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    • cheopsnet
      rune You do not need to connect the RH450 to a cab. It can easily be used as a practice amp with headphones. No problem.
      • January 5, 2010
  • Alper_Yilmaz
    Contributor - Level 1
    2010-01-05
    Hi,

    The ON/OFF switch on my Nova Delay stopped working out of the blue. When the unit is powered up, the switch does not do anything. The only way to turn it on is to press the PRESET button, and somehow it turns on. The ON/OFF switch does not turn the unit off after this, so the only way to do it is to unplug the power supply.

    Has anyone experienced such a thing before? The unit is more than a year old, so it is out of warranty (in the U.S.). tc is asking for $130 to fix it. Most probably, it is a switch issue, but I do not know the particular switch that tc electronic uses on its Nova pedals.

    Do you think it is worth trying to fix it, or should I go for something else?

    Cheers,

    Alper
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    • Alper_Yilmaz
      Mr_Clean Yes I have a similar problem with BRAND NEW TC Nova Drive (my 3rd). The switch is intermittent.
      • January 18, 2010
    • Alper_Yilmaz
      fgilbane Both my Nova delay switches stopped working out of the blue. None of the other buttons do anything either (including the Preset). It passes thru sound but that's all - can't even turn it off. Mine is also over a year old so out of warranty. I may look into getting it fixed, but it would be great to know if other fixes worked.
      • February 20, 2010
    • Alper_Yilmaz
      tom_sapiens Having a similar problem with mine- the bypass switch has suddenly became intermittent. When I press the 'Manual' button it switches delay on/off, but that is pretty hard to do with your foot when your trying to perform. I'm thinking maybe I just haven't quite understood the architecture of the pedal? Maybe I have accidentally put it in a particular mode or something? Been using it for a couple of years and have never had any problems like this with it before.
      • February 12, 2012
  • ursus
    Contributor - Level 2
    2009-12-25
    Yesterday I ordered the RH amp. I tried the Classic amp in a store, I think it is the same amp as the RH 450.

    Have you guys some suggestions on settings that will fit my Berg AE410. Do you think I have to alter the standard amp settings to have a "wider" sound. I have been playing with a EBS TD 650 for a while, basses are Sandberg Umbo, Fodera Emperor and Wal MKII all 5-stringers.
    Thanks
    Ursus
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    • ursus
      Musicman20 Hey there



      I would check Talkbass, unless you already have! I know Klung (think thats his name) has an AE410 and uses it with this amp.



      IMO, you got the best amp of the new TC range. The Classic has the same tone, and some features, but does not have all the other amazing extra features that makes the RH450 sooo good. You also can tweak your sound a LOT more with the RH450.



      I tested a passive Lakland JO5 through the store amp with the RS210 and RS212. It sounded FANTASTIC....



      I myself use a Berg HS410, and Im thinking of possibly, possibly selling to get the 2x10 and 2x12 RS cabs. I'd like to keep it and buy the cabs as well though....but who knows.
      • December 28, 2009
  • Laird_Williams
    Contributor - Level 2
    2009-12-23
    I am working on really learning the ins and outs of the volume and expression pedals on the G so I can fill in the 4th chapter of the white paper. In working on things, I have managed to get things working pretty well with my rig. I am using and FV-500H and an FV-500L.

    I tried a couple of things and got very different results. Here is the deal thus far.

    Volume Pedal Config #1
    Wiring: FV-500H Out --> TS-TS Cable --> G-System Vol Jack
    GFX Vol Type: Vol
    Calibration range: Bass-ackwards

    Calibration did not work at all. In fact, it calibrated "backwards" - with the MAX at 0 and the min at something like 12. STRANGE-ola. Clearly did not work. Tried with a couple of different cables to be sure it was not cable-related.

    Volume Pedal Config #2
    Wiring: FV-500H Expr--> TRS-TRS Cable --> G-System Vol Jack
    GFX Vol Type: Expr (Since I am using the linear pot on the FV)
    Calibration range: 0-50

    Not bad - but a lot of the pedal motion is wasted. Useable though.

    Volume Pedal Config #3
    Wiring: FV-500H In --> Y-Cable Ring
    FV-500H Out --> Y-Cable Tip
    Y-Cable TRS --> G-System Vol Jack
    GFX Vol Type: Vol
    Calibration range: 0-99

    Used a 1/4" Insert cable (TRS-to-dual TS Y-cable). Works great. Motion is smooth and most of the pedal range is useful. Volume swells and diminuendos are quite smooth sounding. I am really happy with this one. IMO, this is THE way to use this pedal for volume - period.


    Expr Pedal Config #1
    Wiring: FV-500L Expr--> TRS-TRS Cable --> G-System Expr Jack
    GFX Expr Type: Expr
    Calibration range: 0-50

    This seems to work fine - but the wah felt a little odd to me...but check this out...


    Expression Pedal Config #2
    Wiring: FV-500L In --> Y-Cable Ring
    FV-500L Out --> Y-Cable Tip
    Y-Cable TRS --> G-System ExprJack
    GFX Expr Type: Vol (Since I am using the Logarithmic pot on the pedal)
    Calibration range: 0-68

    Wider detection range - and actually much better feel on the pedal. I may be weird, but I think I like this one better.


    Expression Pedal Config #3
    Wiring: FV-500H In --> Y-Cable Ring
    FV-500H Out --> Y-Cable Tip
    Y-Cable TRS --> G-System ExprJack
    GFX Expr Type: Vol (Since I am using the Logarithmic pot on the pedal)
    Calibration range: 0-98

    I tried the FV-500H for expression duties, and it worked great with the Y cable.


    I need to play with controlling some of the other expression parameters besides the wah before I make any recommendations - but using a Y-cable with the FV-500H appears to work best for BOTH pedals - although things work pretty well with the FV-500L as well.


    I DO think that TELLING the G-System what kind of pedal is connected to the jack is REALLY important. You can use a volume pedal for expression, and you can use an expression pedal for volume...but you HAVE to tell the G that you are doing this. It probably makes some kind of internal adjustment for the logarithmic pot in the volume pedal. Smart.
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    • Laird_Williams
      victim5150 +1
      • December 23, 2009
    • Laird_Williams
      Tom-Andrew Thanks Laird!

      I've been waiting for someone to post something like this since there has been so much talk about this through the years but with no real answers regarding TRS-TS/TS Y-cables, TS-TS, TRS-TRS and so on...



      What about latency? I have an old EB pedal that introduces some bad latency and now I'm looking at alternatives and those Boss FV-500 pedals are at the top of my list right now.



      Also, you are plugged straight into the GFX brain, right?

      Have you tried plugging into the foot controller instead? I feel some notes about that would be helpful too.



      One last thing... Insert cables; I was under the impression that on a TRS-TS/TS Y-cable the Tip is Send and hence the Ring is Return? Wouldn't it make more sense to plug Tip to In, Ring to Out if that's the case?

      However, I've tried both ways around with my EB and G and it didn't really make any difference...



      Thanks for your efforts!!
      • December 23, 2009
    • Laird_Williams
      bucketbot As an aside I discovered a way today of using one single FV500 for both volume & expression control.

      I currently have my FV500 conmected to the EXP jack on the G with a TRS cable & it seems to work just fine for expression control.

      Today I was experimenting with a 3 way true bypass looper which I now have in loop 1 with that loop set to be always on in my patches.

      I have this set up with my Whammy & Boss SD-1 in 2 of the loopers loops which allows me to free up 2 switches on the G for switching other things and still allows me to switch in & out (true bypass) those 2 pedals using the looper switches when I wish.



      As I had one loop in the looper pedal free I decided to try and also connect the input & ouptput of the FV500 into the spare loop on the looper pedal.

      It works a treat as the FV500 seems to function both as a Volume pedal & expression pedal at the same time.



      So if I need a volume pedal I just hit that button on my looper pedal and that brings the volume aspect of the pedal into the circuit.

      As you are not likely to want to use both Volume & expression control at the same time I see no conflicts.

      However if you engage a patch which has a parameter controlled by one of the modifiers controlled by the expression pedal it does vary both that parameter & also the volume at the same time!



      Works for me!!




      • December 26, 2009
    • Laird_Williams
      Tom-Andrew Actually, you could connect the Y-cable to the input/output on an FV-500 for volume control and a TRS cable to the expr jack for expression control using the same pedal...



      If you have a stereo pedal, you could use two Y-cables.
      • December 26, 2009
    • Laird_Williams
      bucketbot

      Tom-Andrew wrote:

      Actually, you could connect the Y-cable to the input/output on an FV-500 for volume control and a TRS cable to the expr jack for expression control using the same pedal...



      If you have a stereo pedal, you could use two Y-cables.


      True but if you are connecting the Y cable to the Vol Jack on the G system, which I assume is what you mean? would you then not be using the G system to control the volume rather than controlling the line level of the signal directly with the pedal.

      Would this not mean that the volume pedal would be active all the time?



      My method allows you to turn the Volume pedal on & off independantly of the G System.
      • December 26, 2009
  • JayGarrett
    Contributor - Level 2
    2009-12-17
    Hey all!

    I've finally taken delivery of my rig.

    As you may have read in the Combo - to buy or not to buy thread I ended up opting for the seperates.

    And thanks to the advice of BASSically I bought a cheap (£8.99) folding luggage trolley that the RS210 fits onto nicely

    The RH450 came almost a week later than the rest of the gear as there was a delay at TC Electronic - guessing that these amps are getting more popular by the day

    I have the case for the cab to protect it thankfully - I had a flightcased amp on top of it for one gig and it left some marks - but there's soon to be a new cab coating apparently.

    I'm still playing with settings but I'm certain I'm going to enjoy gigging this little rig and, as I've also bought the amp/pedal carry bag, getting this set-up to the shows shouldn't be a problem.

    Have TC will travel!!









    J
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    • JayGarrett
      JayGarrett This amp and cab is possibly the best investment I've made in a long time!
      • December 18, 2009
    • JayGarrett
      Musicman20 + 1, I am another basschat member! Great amp.



      I think the TC stuff is selling really well. I asked for a new sealed amp, pedal and bag and it took a little wait but well worth it.



      The store said its their current best selling line!
      • December 21, 2009
    • JayGarrett
      Musicman20 Oh, and I think TC have priced it all very well. The amp is a little more than most, but so well designed with so many features its well worth it. The bag is very well made, and a very good price, unlike other manufacturers I wont mention here.



      The cabs are also great prices.
      • December 21, 2009
    • JayGarrett
  • BigString
    Contributor - Level 1
    2009-12-06
    Anybody know how to change the amp's settings back to factory ??
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    • BigString
      idasys Hold in all 3 preset buttons when powering on.
      • March 20, 2010
    • BigString
      Revolver323 I had the same question. Is this info in the manual? It should be if it isn't.
      • July 19, 2010
    • BigString
      BASSically Always a good idea to know how to reset.
      • July 25, 2010
  • Musicman20
    Contributor - Level 2
    2009-12-03
    Hey guys

    I have returned my GB Shuttle 9.0 for various reasons, and I am upgrading to the TC Elec RH450, the RC4 and the RH450 gig bag.

    I have watched all the videos and I am very excited.

    Does anyone have any tips they want to share with me?

    What are peoples views of the RS cabinets so far?

    Thanks
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    • Musicman20
      JayGarrett Well I'm waiting for TC to get my RH450 to Bonners but I've already taken delivery of the RS210.



      It sounds and looks great. The HF dial at the back does make a subtle difference to the sound.



      I've tried it with a Peavy Pro500 and it gigged well in a post punk band and I had no problems monitoring myself with it.



      I just can't wait for the RH450 so I can use it and the pedal with the cab



      The other good thing about the RS210 is that it fits on a folding luggage trolley and as I get to my gigs using public transport I will be able to shove the amp and pedal in the TC carry bag, cover the cab and drag it around on the trolley. Genius!



      Apparently there's a new cab coating on its way so if you dont like the current one hang on a bit



      J
      • December 13, 2009
    • Musicman20
    • Musicman20
      Musicman20 I picked up my RH450 this weekend. I also had the pleasure of testing the shop floor RH450, Staccato and the RS210/RS212.



      Firstly, I must admit, I did not know what to expect from these amps and cabs....apart from the fact I had heard good reviews, and watched the recordings TC has made. I had also had a very brief play on an RH450 + RS210 some time ago. This was not ideal, as the setting were way off and the preset volume had been turned right down.



      On Sunday, I went to my normal store, Bass Merchant in Colchester. They did a very good deal on the bag, pedal and amp.



      So, I figured I may as well test their shop floor versions as well.



      I was completely unprepared for how huge and brilliant this amp sounds, (RH450). I actually had a huge smile on my face! I usually play 4 string, but I tested it with a Lakland JO5, and the B....wow....I have never heard a B cut like that. It was precise, fat, and immense. I also added a little tube tone....and then I was more impressed. The tone was nice and gritty. It was also incredibly loud.



      I am very impressed with the amps sounds. I have yet to open mine and start fiddling, but even the boxes look cool! I am now considering adding thw RS210 and 212 to my cab collection, once they make the new finish.



      Thanks TC...this amp is fantastic and I hope to get your cabs soon.



      I had a quick test with the Staccato on the same settings, and it was so massive in the lows. If you like a tight fat fingerstyle the Staccato may be for you! But, the RH was for me.



      PS - I was also very very shocked with how bloomin loud this amp is. At 4 ohms, with 2 cabs, the amp was shaking the shop at about 10 o'clock!



      Cheers
      • December 21, 2009
    • Musicman20
      JayGarrett Dude - welcome to the world of TC!



      I aint stopped grinning thanks to my RH450 and RS210



      J
      • December 21, 2009
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