• iTheAlterEgo
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-07-19

    Hello.

    I am new to the Midas M32 R I am having problems routing my USB to my monitor outs. Can someone help?

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    • iTheAlterEgo
      GaryHiggins

      Hi @iTheAlterEgo Can you give specifics as to what you are wanting to do? Are you talking about DAW track playback or the stereo USB playbck aux 7/8 or something else?

      • July 19, 2019
    • iTheAlterEgo
      iTheAlterEgo

      Hello.


      Thanks for the reply.


      I have my M32R setup  where AUX-IN USB (My computer) plays from channels AUX 1 & 2


      I am trying to route 2 of the XLR outputs to a piece of outboard gear (An AKAI sampler) 


      This way, anything that is played on my computer can be sampled at any time.


      How can I achieve this?

      • July 20, 2019
  • Angelos7
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-07-18

    2 M32 + 1 DL32 sharing gain....is there any follow up gain feature that can be used at "slave console" to auto correct any gain changes from the"master console"????

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    • Angelos7
      DaveMorrison

      @Angelos7 Yes. There is a trim control for the console not controlling the pre-amps.

      • July 18, 2019
    • Angelos7
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Angelos @Angelos7,


      Welcome to the forum. Yes you can enable the HA Gain Sharing (Setup, Preamps screen) that will provide each console with digital trim (+-18 db) on each channel strip. What that means is that the console that has control of the physical preamps (gains, phantom) will have to adjust the physical gains on the Setup, Preamps screen).


       

      • July 18, 2019
    • Angelos7
      KevinMaxwell

      Let’s for example say you are talking about a FOH console as the master and the Monitor console as the Slave. I assume that what you are asking for is can the monitor console auto correct what the master console just did. In Other Words if a person on the FOH console just increases the preamp gain on a vocal mic is there a feature that will then decrease the gain (or trim) on the monitor console so that mix doesn’t change.


       


      The answer is no this feature is not in the M32 console system, at least not in an automated sense. It can be done manually but not automatically. This is why people recommend a hard wired or transformer split before the consoles preamps for a 2 console system with one at FOH and another one at Monitor world, so what one mix person does doesn’t affect the other mix person.

      • July 18, 2019
  • CharlesHarbison
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-07-15

    Hello, I have been doing pretty good at learning these consoles and this group has been a great help for my challenges. It appears that after updating to Mojave or updating to the latest firmware I can no longer play music from iTunes via USB to the M32. All sound effects, appilcations including Pro Tools, Logic Pro and even Safari websites play without a hitch but iTunes will only play through the internal speakers from the MacBook Pro. I use iTunes for practicing and as you may be aware the quality is not there through MacBook Pro speakers. I understand some people may not be Apple fans, or fans of iTunes but I am not posting this to get in a fanboy battle I just have not found any answers to this issue. I am hoping I have over looked a simple setting. 

    I am using the M32 with the original Klark Technik USB card. The console is using firmware 3.11 and my MacBook Pro is using 10.14.5 Mojave.  All software is up to date and I really couldn't tell you when this issue started because it's not too often when I am trying to playback from iTunes. (It did work before when using 10.13)

    In my System Preferences I have DN32-USB selected for input and output. Selecting any other audio device either plays through the built in speakers or casue iTunes to stop playback.

    On the M32 I have the USB set for input and it must be correct because I get audio in all other applications I have tried except iTunes. Even YouTube plays just fine through the Midas console.

    Anyway if anyone has run across this issue or has a fix I would greatly appreciate it and thank you for taking the time ti read this.

    Chazz

     

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    • CharlesHarbison
      Paul_Vannatto


      @CharlesHarbison wrote:


      Hello, I have been doing pretty good at learning these consoles and this group has been a great help for my challenges. It appears that after updating to Mojave or updating to the latest firmware I can no longer play music from iTunes via USB to the M32.





      I'm not a Mac user, but have seen at least a dozen posts here about this specific issue for both Mojave and Win10. The answer is always to change the privacy setting which disables the microphone and thus USB audio. I'm still using Win7 and will do so as long as I possibly can, due to issues like this. 


       

      • July 15, 2019
    • CharlesHarbison
      KenMitchell

      Hi Chazz ( @CharlesHarbison ), 


       


      The Mojave privacy settings only affect recording since they block "listening devices" such as microphones and audio interfaces that could have microphones attached. 


       


      Go into Utilities->Audio MIDI Setup, Audio Devices and check the speaker configuration for your M32.  That's where iTunes gets its output device info. 


       


      Hope this helps, 


      Ken


       

      • July 16, 2019
    • CharlesHarbison
      johngomez

      I am a fan of iTunes. And I love other apple devices like MacBook Pro, iPhone, iPad etc. Even I am such a big fan of iTunes it sometimes disappoints me with annoying errors. A few days back I had to Fix iTunes Error 14 by searching online. It took me about 1 hr 30 mins to fix it. Still, I love iTunes and apple.

      • January 9, 2020
  • Blink180stu
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-07-15

    I have a Pro2 that needs servicing, I've sent several emails with no reply yet (going on 3 weeks), not sure what to do next as I can't find a support phone number anywhere.  Is this typical for it to take so long just for a response?

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    • Blink180stu
      CARLOSPER

      Hello, in what country are you?
      I can pass the data of the technical support according to the zone

      • July 15, 2019
  • ErikBelgium
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-07-10

    HAllo,
    we use a DL16 and an M32R.
    These are connected to a pro snake CAT 5 Profi 30m.
    https://www.thomann.de/be/pro_snake_cat_5_profi_30m.htm_snake_cat_5_profi_30m.htm.

    When I start both devices, I often have no synchronization between the DL16 and the M32r.
    After a few reboots I have communication.

    I have already laid another cable, updated the firmware but without success.

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    • ErikBelgium
      GaryHiggins

      @ErikBelgium Was the other cable the same brand? I would suggest trying yet a third one, another brand. Also was the DL firmware part of the updated firmware?

      • July 10, 2019
    • ErikBelgium
      ChaseMcKnight

      Hi ErikBelgium,

      To verify it's not a physical issue with the M32R, try connecting from the AES50 A port of the DL16 to the AES50 B port of the M32R. If you're still having issues, and swapped cabling, it could be the DL16. Lastly, make sure you're clocking from the console and not the DL16. Keep us posted. 

      • July 11, 2019
    • ErikBelgium
      ErikBelgium

      Hello, thanks for the tip.


      Next test carried out
      1) Cable is in the AES50 A port of the M32R and in the AES50 A of the DL.
      First I started the M32R and then the DL.
      => No sync


      2) Cable inserted into the AES50 B of the M32R
      => sync


      Does this mean the M32R is malfunctioning?



      By the order of clocking you probably mean what you start first up?



      Thank you for your reaction


      Erik

      • July 11, 2019
  • AntiguaProd
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-07-07

    I am training a set of good volunteers on their Midas Pro2C system and I would like to know if I can either lock the gain and dynamics section.  While they understand the signal flow of the board, they still need to train their ear and in order to avoid making mistakes during service.  The Pastor has asked me for a way to lock the console which is something we did back when they had the Yamaha M7CL48; however, after reading the manual, I don't think such feature is available for the pro2.  I can't even find a section where you have "user" profiles and manage what one can and cannot do.  If this is indeed not available today in the latest firmware, how do I go about putting in a feature request? 

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    • AntiguaProd
      ChaseMcKnight

      Hi AntiquaProd,

      There isn't a way to 'lock' features on the PRO Series consoles. A potential solution could be to utilize the console's Automation and create Scenes. Now if something happens they can reload the Scene, effectively resetting the console to the desired settings prior to the mistake. You can also lock Scenes so they can't be overwritten. Hope this helps.

      • July 8, 2019
  • jon9max
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-07-04

    Hello, I'm new. Very new. I don't even have the equipment yet.

    I am going to have an M32C with a DL32. I am having it all racked up so we can use it for stereo IEM's, with a split for FOH.

    This is a large band, 11 people, and there will be 6-7 stereo IEM's and just about all 32 inputs will be filled.

    I am doing all I can to learn about the unit so we can get to work right away when I get this next week. 

    It seems if you use all of the Physical outputs you can't use the effects? (I know the mix busses, but...)What does one have to do with the other? Am I missing something? There are 16 phys. outputs and 16 "mix busses" Did they not think people would not use up the physical outputs and the mix busses to go with them and Not want some reverb?

    As I said, I don't know. Is there something I'm missing totally? Is there a workaround?

    Thanks in advance! 

     

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    • jon9max
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi John @jon9max,


      Welcome to the forum. Yes you are misunderstanding how the M32 engine is designed. Physical outputs are separate entities from the mixbuses. What I would suggest you do is to download the M32-Edit app (PC, Mac, linux and/or Raspberry Pi) and have a look at how everything is laid out.


       


      There are 16 mixbuses that can be used to mix channel sends and output to various destinations, including physical outputs. Typically it is setup to use the first 12 mixbuses for monitor mixes or 6 mixbus stereo pairs, or a combination thereof. The last 3 mixbuses are typically used to mix channel sends to be sent to the first 4 Fx slots (side-chain) as the dry signal inputs. The wet signals are returned in stereo pair channel inputs (on the Aux layer channel strips 9-16), which can then be sent to the Main LR and/or any of the monitor mixes.


       


      Assignments to the physical outputs are done in the Routing section and is accomplished in a 2 step process. First individual outputs are assigned to individual physical outputs on the Out 1-16, Aux Out or Ultranet. Then these outputs are assigned to the AES50 in banks of 8 of those individual assignments.


       


      The best thing to do is play around with the M32-Edit, then ask questions here as they come up. That's how I got started back in Dec 2012 when my church got their X32. Because I was new to the digital mixing world, I ended up asking lots of questions.


       

      • July 3, 2019
    • jon9max
      jon9max

      Thanks so much Paul! 


      I do have the M32 edit program and I am setting up as much as I can prior to getting the unit. That’s what brought me here with my question. You basically restated my question with your solution. When you said “typically” it is used in such a way...


      What I’m asking, is if I use the mix busses to control the stereo IEM’s, can I use effects? 

      • July 3, 2019
    • jon9max
      Paul_Vannatto


      @jon9max wrote:


      Thanks so much Paul! 


      When you said “typically” it is used in such a way...


      That is the way it is setup from the factory and I normally leave it that way. Fortunately it does give the ability to change that. For example, if you need 7 stereo IEM capability, you could use mixbuses 1-14 and use only the last 2 (15 and 16) for sends to 2 of the FX slots.


      What I’m asking, is if I use the mix busses to control the stereo IEM’s, can I use effects? 


      Yes of course you can. There are 2 ways of using the effects - sidechain or insert. Reverbs, delays, etc. work best using the side chain method, which requires a mixbus to feed them.





       

      • July 3, 2019
    • jon9max
      jon9max

      Ok, So can I insert them, then?  (I do know how they work best, but it looks like I'm not gonna be able to do it that way. It just seems wacky that the outputs are kinda tied to the mix buses, well, that there aren't more mix busses if you are using them to control the outputs for Iem's/monitors.) But It's so we can get a little reverb in the IEM's just so vocals and drums won't be completely dry. I haven't found a way to insert them.  Inserted to a subgroup an input channel? (subgroup would be great) 


      thank you,


      John

      • July 4, 2019
    • jon9max
      BillHood

      Hi @jon9max . Paul is the expert so you have the right person helping you out. Just thought I would chime in, as you asked about any workarounds... but I will note the DL32 has ADAT out for 17 through 32. I have often wondered if ADAT out to an ADA8200 wouldn't provide more physical outputs, but I don't need them so have never tried.


       


      Alternatively, with 11 folks and 6-7 stereo IEM's I figure you are anticipating some shared mixes or wedges or similar? If you can work it with your group, using a couple of mix bus for compiling/grouping several channels like to a 'drum' L 'drum' R, you might be able to get away with using a couple of the P16 system in addition to the 16 physical outs. Downside is P16 only allows 16 assignments, which I find a real drawback. 


       


      Idea might be mix bus 1-12 are individual L-R mixes and go to 12 of your physical outs for 6 stereo IEM, and you have 4 physical outs for Subs and Mains


       


      Bus 13 and 14 then are 'drum' LR, bus 15 and 16 are for effects send. Or some combination of the above, whatever fits your need. Then for the P16 system you can assign the 'grouped' mix bus 13 and 14, where you can also mix in some of your effects returns to add reverb, then 14 other individual channels.


      Not ideal I know, but maybe useful... also note the M32C has 'Monitor Out L and R' - I use those physical outs for my IEM as well. Still uses 2 mix bus, but is 2 more physical outs... just have to use some creative routining.

      • July 4, 2019
  • DwayneAasberg
    Super Contributor - Level 1
    2019-06-30

    Hello all.  Working with a new M32 in our church.

    We have a pretty good handle on scenes, snippets and library entries.

    But how about things like mixer settings under Setup and the Assign sections.  How can these settings be recorded in case somebody really mucks things up?

    Thx in advance.
    Dwayne A

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    • DwayneAasberg
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Dwayne @DwayneAasberg,


      The assign settings are included in the scenes (lines 23-30). For the global settings, I thought Patrick had made a tool to backup and restore these settings. But looking on his website, I don't see it. You can backup these settings using Live Toolbox, MX Terminal, or LT_Command. 


       


      To save the settings you would use he following tidbit commands (or create a tidbit file):


      Store 1


      Store 1 allconfig


      Recall 1 tid "M32 Global Settings.tid"


       


      To restore these settings, use the following tidbit command


      Launch tid "M32 Global Settings.tid"


       

      • June 30, 2019
    • DwayneAasberg
      DwayneAasberg

      Good morning Paul and happy Canada Day.


      Okay.  Assigns are included in scenes.  Good to know.


      Since I don't see a way to manipulate them with snippets on the board I assume the only way copy assigns from one scene to another is with an off-board script editor.  Correct?


      I will download the other tools you mention to capture and save the global settings.


      Thx again for your help.
      D

      • June 30, 2019
  • Giancarlo0901
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-06-24
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    • Giancarlo0901
      CARLOSPER

      Hola Giancarlo, como estas.


      En que parte calienta el DL371, L


      Le hicieron algun service de mantenimiento , limpieza de polvo, reciduos, etc que se acumulan en los fan?


      Y como estan los powers supply? 


      Cuando estas en la pagina de STATUS marca alguna parte amarilla?, Tambien chequea como estan las tensiones y temperaturas de trabajo cliqueando sobre el diagrama de DL371 


      Espero ser util, Cualquier duda podemos seguir investigando


      Saludos  y gracias 


      Carlos M Perrone


       


       


       

      • June 28, 2019
  • dendong
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-06-23

    Hi,

    We are currently setting up Midas M32 and Mackie DL32R connection using Dante card. However, we do not clearly understand routing of M32 and DL32R. We would like to have M32 to control all inputs and outputs from DL32R. The routing will be like this, Inputs (mic) > DL32R > Midas > DL32R > Outputs (monitors, main L/R). Below is our current routing configuration for M32 and DL32R where only inputs 1-32 of DL32R can be controlled at M32. Meaning, we can only adjust gains of DL32R inputs thru input faders of M32 but the DL32R outputs cannot be controlled thru M32 ouput faders.

    M32

    Routing > Inputs (card 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 24-32)

    Routing > Card out (Out 1-8, 9-16), since DL32R has 14 outputs only with 13 & 14 as Main L/R

    Routing > Output (DirectOut Ch 1-16), post fader

    DL32R

    Routing > Dante (Dante 1-32 > Mic Pre 1-32)

    Routing > Input A (Ch 1-32 > Dante 1-32)

    Routing > Output (XLR 1-14 > Dante 1-14), 13 & 14 as Main L/R

    We hope someone could help us regarding the basic routing as we are newbie to digital audio networking. 

    Thank you.

     

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    • dendong
      DaveMorrison

      @dendong 


      If I understand your question correctly, wouldn't you want the outputs from the M32 to be Bus 1-12 and LR on 13&14?  If this is the case, then set Routing 1-16 to be Mix Bus 1....12 to Output 1....12 and Main L&R to Output 13&14 (all post fader).


      The Card Out routing looks correct if the Routing 1-16 is set to the above. 


      If you need more help, Upload your scene file.


      Here are (older) instructions for saving a scene. Remember to ZIP the file or it won't upload. https://behringerwiki.musictribe.com/index.php?title=Uploading_files_to_the_forum

      • June 23, 2019
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