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  • AlMorello
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-25

    I'm using Onsong ipad App with my VL3X plugged into the USB port. When I play a track from the Onsong App, the iPad's volume up/down buttons don't work. Only way I can turn the music up/down is through the VL3X mixer (4 small knobs on face). This isn't very convenient as I have to bend down to twist the knobs. Is there any way to affect the volume with the iPad volume buttons or are they bypassed since I'm plugging into the VL3X via USB?

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    • AlMorello
      Andreas-Joseph

      I do not use or know much about On song, yet with my VL3XI use Aux port for the input if I need a backing track.or  we can record a Backing track with each preset- I personally am looking for someone who has insight to eliminate VL3X "settings" instability-especially during a live performance...totally annoying

      • November 25, 2019
  • DennisMilsom
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-24

    refer here : https://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/1288617-tc-helicon-perform-series-forced-use-switch-3-a.html?posted=1#post14341749

    After discussions with Mark at the above, I can get a single switch to turn the harmony effect on and off, which is all I needed. To summaraize all of the above thread - using a TRS plug (that must go into the Perform (in my case the Perform-VK), connect the tip and sleeve only (ring is unconnected) to either a on off switch ( https://www.amazon.com/Guitar-Momentary-Effects-Button-Switch/dp/B00W93IWQA ) or a TS jack (if using a Boss FSU for example) or even a standard footpedal switch.

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    • DennisMilsom
      DennisMilsom

      So now, I can have a simple, almost cost free (instead of $130+ for a 3 switch pedal I'll never use) way to utitlise a simple function of turning an effect on or off.

      • November 24, 2019
    • DennisMilsom
      AlMorello

      Thanks for this info. I plan on making my own single pedal now too!

      • November 26, 2019
    • DennisMilsom
      IHatethisSite

      Ideally, it will be a momentary switch like those in the TC switches. You can use both the tip and sleeve and a 2nd switch to switch 2 functions, also.

      • December 10, 2019
  • DennisMilsom
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-22

    Why oh why did TC Helicon (apart from a money grab) decide to change out what footswitch one could use?

    I am coming from a Harmony -M that I have had for many years whihc could allow the use of a simple single switch that could just turn harmony on an off! As I already have several pedal units under my keys, I could then mounnt a small switch on top of the sustain pedal that gave me easy and simple access to controlling the harmony.

    Now I am forced to buy a 3 switch pedal (the smallest one) that I have no idea how to place in a tight floor space already! and If I don't I ahve no way of turning the harmony on and off when needed, without removing my hand from the keys, reaching over to the mic stand turning on the harmony and then back!

    The only reason I can see is to gouge more money from buyers. There is NOTHING in any of the pre-sales hype and advertising that says anything about it is the ONLY pedal that will work! Now, as I have spent over $400 (with no returns - it is NOT the USA here) I now have to spend another $130 just for a switch!

    NOT happy! Surely they caould have allowed for a simple switch to control just one function!

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    • DennisMilsom
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @DennisMilsom,
      You didn't mention which product you're using now, but you mentioned keys and reaching for a mic stand so I'll assume you're talking about a Perform-VK.  Switch-3 and Switch-6 aren't the only pedals that'll work with Perform-VK, just the only ones we can guarantee will work.  In my experience there are pedals from other manufacturers that work great with our gear, you'll just have to try yours and cross your fingers that your 3rd party pedal works.

      • November 22, 2019
    • DennisMilsom
      DennisMilsom

      @TCH-Spencer  So that's the only response hey, the official company line! Buy a pedal but then be forced to spend over another 1/4 of the value on a "factory only" pedal to be able to actually use it!

      • November 23, 2019
    • DennisMilsom
      kiskadar69

      TC-Helicon Switch-3 has 3 Normally Open momentary switches, 2 diodes and a TRS (TIP, RING, SLEEVE) socket. The first switch shortcuts SLEEVE with TIP. The second switch short-circuits the SLEEVE with the RING. The third switch shortens SLEEVE with TIP + RING.


      So, with a properly designed short "TRS plug - TS socket" adapter cable and any Normally Open simple foot pedal, you can simulate any switch on the Switch-3.

      • December 10, 2019
    • DennisMilsom
      kiskadar69

      Sorry, I didn't notice that your issue was resolved.

      • December 10, 2019
  • PaulSijben
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-21

    Looking at Sam Perry's equipment video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfJ14MsMO0U) he is using a guitar tuner to actually make sure his voice is in tune before starting his loops. This seems like a great idea.

    I have both the voicelive 2 and the  touch 2, both have a tuner, but on the guitar channel. How would it be possible to have mute & tuner mode on the voicelives?

     

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    • PaulSijben
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @PaulSijben,
      Sorry to say that the tuners in both those products are exclusive to the guitar path - there's no way to get your voice into them unless you're physically plugging your mic into the guitar input.  They do both however have pitch correction in them, so you can use that to be sure you're in tune.  Cheers!

      • November 21, 2019
  • LucDeBacker
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-11-20

    Hi all,

    Pretty new to this board and if I'm posting something wrong I'm sorry for that.

    So we are having the TC Helicon VoiceLive 3 Extreme and love the box.
    We we have a gig (most of the times smalller ones) we connect our Turbosound IQ10's to it.

    My wife, the singer, and a mate of mine, the guitarist, complain lately of not hearing themselves enough when we are playing at a gig where they for sure are behind the IQ's. When the guitarist can't join us we packed the VLX with backing tracks.

    So we got ourselves the TurboSound TFX122M-AN floor monitor.

    The main reason is the ultra net possibilities these IQ's and monitor has as I'm running also a X32 Core and the big boy X32 together with the S32 when playing with the complete band.

     

    Now for our issue. The only way connecting the monitor is by using the headphone out. I got myself a cable that supposedly turn the 3,5 stereo jack into the male XLR mono. This is for some reason giving a kreepy end result where it looks like the two channels are canceling each other out now leaving only the differences coming out of the monitor.

    What would your guys advice be? I can't imagine someone did not face the same problem. Is there maybe some kind of box available with 2x XLR in for the separated  Left and Right, having a pass through XLR out Left and Right and also a XLR out having the signals correctly merged into mono?

     

    All advice is highly appreciated

     

     

    Regrads from my wife

     

    and me

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    • LucDeBacker
      LucDeBacker

      A bit weird to reply to myself but I think I have found the best solution.


      I'm going to connect the (MONO) left towards a Klark Teknik PRO SPLITTER 5 DS 50 passieve splitter and from there I can split it to the floor monitor and directly to the IQ


      Should be good. The order is out and tomorrow it will be delivered.
      I'll post another reply with my findings.


       


      Regards, Luc

      • November 21, 2019
    • LucDeBacker
      TCH-Aaron

      Hi LucDeBacker,


       


      That sounds like a great setup! I believe the TRS to Mono XLR cable is likely the issue.

      To connect to a PA or monitor using the headphone out you will need either:

      1) Stereo TRS 3.5mm (1/8") to Dual Mono 6.5mm (1/4") cable 


      2) Stereo TRS 3.5mm to Dual XLR-Male cable


       


      By keeping the signal stereo you won't run into the cancellation you're experiencing. You can use either the left, right, or both outputs to connect to the wedge as I believe the Turbosound has two inputs. 


       


      The most flexible and recallable setup would be to run the VL3's main outputs AND the headphone outputs to the X-32 - so four channels - then send only what you need back to the wedge using one of the X-32's mix buses. Food for thought. I hope this helps!


       


      Cheers,


       


      Aaron

      • November 21, 2019
    • LucDeBacker
      LucDeBacker

      Hi Aaron,


      Thanks for the feedback.


      Of course using the X32 would mean no issues at all anymore but this was not the intention for playing a small gig (sometimes even a family room performance). In such a case I only bring the VLX3, 1 or 2 IQ10's and from now on the Floor monitor as well.


      By the way this Turbosound Floor monitor has only 1 input (well, 1 ultranet and 1 XLR).


      While I think the box will help me out I missed 1 thing. The left output will be the mono output when not using the Right channel output as well. Regardless the monitor will be the left channel only in a two speaker setup it will be much better than canceling out


      I just got confirmation the box is coming tonight, I'll report back tomorrrow.


       


      Luc

      • November 21, 2019
    • LucDeBacker
      TCH-Aaron

      Nice! If you're not bringing the X-32 that's a great way to do it. I ran an identical setup for years when playing solo shows. I'd use one or two main speakers running straight off the VL3 main outputs and either a wedge or IEM's fed by the headphone output.


       


      If you do end up wanting to keep things stereo in the mains and have separate control of the wedge using the VL3 as the "mixer", a cable such as the Digiflex HIN-1K-2XM-15 would be all you'd need.


       


      Cheers!





      • November 22, 2019
  • godsfingers
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-19

    Hi second newbe question. Is there a way to get my voice out of the wet feed? I want to be able to set up 3rd track descants on songs or be able to create punch tracks. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Dan

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    • godsfingers
      godsfingers

      oops, forgot to include this question is for the Live Harmony G XT

      • November 19, 2019
    • godsfingers
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @godsfingers,
      Are you trying to separate your wet and dry vocals?  If so, check out this article in our Knowledge Base, it has the info you're after.  Cheers!

      • November 21, 2019
    • godsfingers
      godsfingers

      Ya, I've done that and all it is is the difference between a stero and mono feed. The main vocal stays isolated on the dry track but is still in the stereo track. So when the harmonies drop the main vocal is on that track still. The intention is to do the panning on the workstation. When I cut the third track with descants or echos the main vocal included in the echos or descants will be a distraction. I suspect I can't get away from that, yes. Otherwise, I'm thus far pleased with the quality. I'm simplying and replacing my ancient Digitech Studio Vocalist.

      • November 21, 2019
    • godsfingers
      TCH-Spencer

      Hi again @godsfingers,
      Ah see what you mean...  The left XLR does indeed only carry the harmony voices, but only if they're turned on, and when the harmony voices are disabled the lead voice is present again on that channel.  I can see your problem now if you're applying echos and whatnot to this channel... The only thing I can think of would be to put some kind of XLR mute pedal (like this) between Harmony G-XT's left XLR output and your workstation, then leave the harmonies always on in the G-XT and toggle them in and out with the mute pedal.  Kind of janky to have to use extra hardware, but it's the only solution I can think of.

      • November 22, 2019
  • godsfingers
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-19

    Newbe here, I've been through the manual that gets real close to an answer but , alas, not there. How do you "see" what's in a preset? Right now there's 10 presets with the same name. How do I know what's in a preset and whether I want it taking space or is it pass the folder now and read it later? Thanks, Dan

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    • godsfingers
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @godsfingers,
      VoiceSupport 2 does not have any preset editing capabilities, so you can't use it to view the contents of presets.  There is the tagging system in VoiceSupport 2 which you might find helpful to tag effects, but really you'll have to view the presets on the hardware device itself.  Cheers!

      • November 22, 2019
    • godsfingers
      godsfingers

      So the VS2 is essentially a post and retrieve filing system, then. Ok, got it. It's less complex than the BB drum presets, given everything shows up externally. So the editing you would, then, do on the unit, save, pull it off and rename it?

      • November 22, 2019
  • wave64
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-11-18

    Hi guys. Purchased our VoiceLive 3 Extreme back in March, and when we first turned it on, all the voice preset effects (1-82) were showing and working fine. I could see and scroll through the whole list. But, all of a sudden one day, the device stopped showing effects 1-55: All I can see and scroll through is 56 (Puppet Master) and onward through 82 (Rocket Man) but nothing before that. I got the latest firmware and updates after installing VoiceSupport 2 and connecting it. However, this did not resolve the issue. Does anyone have any ideas or suggestions for something we could try that might remedy this? Is this an issue that perhaps you have seen before? Let me know please. Thank you...

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    • wave64
      PetGerbil

      Sounds like a "favorites" Issue.


      If you tap the Green "Genre" button, use the big knob to change the setting to "All" Then press "Genre" again to exit. Does that fix it. ?


      (Pg 46 of the manual.)


       


       

      • November 19, 2019
  • nimasan
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-11-12

    Hi there,

    I'm currently using TC Helicon's Harmony M with my midi keyboard.

    I need the presets/steps features that VoiceLive 3 is offering so I want to switch to that product.

    However, it is being advertised/promoted as a voice/guitar effects product and I'm not planning on using it with a guitar but with a midi keyboard instead.

    I want to sing, play some chords on my midi keyboard and I want VoiceLive 3 to be able to translate those keyboard chords into harmonies for example.

    Is this possible or will I have problems with it?

    Is VoiceLive 2 Touch better for me maybe? However, I noticed that VoiceLive 2 Touch does not have "steps" but only "presets". I don't want to have to create 5 presets for a single song. I want one single song-preset containing a bunch of steps inside (verse, chorus, bridge etc..)

    Thanks in advance for your help!

     

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    • nimasan
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @nimasan,
      VoiceLive 3 is advertised as a vocal and guitar processor because in addition to our suite of vocal effects it also has a bunch of guitar effects, but you can absolutely use it with a keyboard instead.  You can either use just the MIDI output from your keyboard to guide harmony voices, or use the audio output of your keyboard (if it has any) and apply the guitars effects to it, or even use a combination of the two.  So yeah what you're asking is totally possible, Gavin Castleton has a really good video on the topic here.


      As for VoiceLive Touch 2, it can work well with a keyboard as well but I wouldn't say it's better for you.  Like you've noted, the Touch 2 doesn't have the ability to create Steps so you'd be working with neighbouring presets instead.  The biggest benefit that Touch 2 has over VoiceLive 3 - aside from being mountable on a mic stand - is its 6-track looper, VoiceLive 3's looper only has 3 tracks.


      Hopefully that's helpful, let me know if you have any more questions.  Cheers!

      • November 14, 2019
  • ToniGruber
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-11-11

    Hi there. Is it possible to get a distorted sound by playing an harmonica trough the voicelive3 ? For me it looks like the frequencies of the harmonica don`t work with the effects of the voicelive. Maybe there is a way to fix this - would be a nice feature. Thanks, and musically regards from austria. datoni

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    • ToniGruber
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @ToniGruber,
      I do know that our gear usually doesn't respond well to whistling input, playing a harmonica will likely also yield an undesirable result.  Additionally, all our gear is made to expect a monophonic singing voice, with the harmonica being a polyphonic instrument that can really confuse our effects as well.  If you're looking to apply effects to a harmonica, you're probably better off using guitar pedals (which are inherently built to expect a polyphonic input).  Cheers!

      • November 13, 2019
    • ToniGruber
      Roland1

      Hi 


      Try it trough the guitar layer and use the amp effects.
      It works well, but you have to get a good signal, f.ex. with one of the Shure 520DX microphones (or vintage model).


      If you don't use VL3 for voice, it's to expensive only for harmonica. Then you better buy a real good harmonica-amp and maybe some stomp pedals. As I play the VL3 with saxophone on stage, sometimes I use it for harmonica, but normally I play the harmonica over a good little amp to create the real distortion "the natural way".

      • December 31, 2019
    • ToniGruber
      Toddyboy

      I'm not looking for a "bluesy" distorted sound with harmonica or  wooden flute using the Live Play, but rather the ability to create an assortment of effects that can give a different variety of voices or colors to these instruments...not for playing blues at all. I've been using a TC mic mechanic for a few years that performs OK with these instruments on stage in our group, but would like more sound options. I understand the Live Play is made for voice, but do you think it can add effects to these wind instruments without a bunch of additional feedback or noise?  Don't really need the pitch or adaptive features. Thanks - Tod

      • January 16, 2020
    • ToniGruber
      Toddyboy

      My experience has been that guitar pedals usually pick up sounds and noise from all over the stage when they are adapted for microphone use, which these instruments are played through...

      • January 16, 2020
    • ToniGruber
      BigDogDaddyD

      Hello ToniGruber,


        I fell ya.  I've been in the same boat for years.  The problem I've experienced is that guitar pickups are not as powerful as a microphone.  So using a harmonica and microphone into a guitar pedal often causes violent feedback and loud distorted sounds.  Same with using the guitar 'IN port' on a vocalizer.  I play classic rock, country, bluegrass & folk, blues, and cajun. And sometimes I even play classical.  So I need different sounds and effects for playing diatonic, chromatic, tremelo, or octave.  I also play the keyboard or guitar with my harmonica.  I can't speak for the VoiceLive 3 (the VoiceLive 3 Extreme is on my list when I decide to upgrade), but I have used a VoiceLive Touch 2 for quite awhile now.  And I have to tell you that I get some really impressive effects with a Shure 57 microphone and all my different harps.  I use separate effects pedals between the VoiceLive Touch 2 and the amp or PA if I need something The VoiceLive Touch can't give me.  But I love the reverb, chorus options, octave shifts, etc...  Some of the vocal effects cause the harmonica to sound more like a synthesizer on acid, so not all are good.  But I simply sat down and walked through all the different options one-by-one.  This took several days to do. And it was different with different types and keys of harmonicas.  And when you add all the different guitar effects on top of the harmonica,  I really get some great sounds.  And the looper really makes a difference as well.  I'm hoping one day the major guitar stores will have more demo units set up to experiment with.  I'm really surprised Music Tribe and TC-Helicon don't have demos with harmonica players.  The great Brendan Power uses his harmonicas, VoiceLive Touch, and a separate effects box, on his stage performances.  Part of his act is showing folks how to loop.  Google "Brendan Power looping", or do aYoutube lookup.  He has quite a few videos using his harps with TC Helicon equipment.  Hope this helps.  Take care and good luck with your journey. 

      • January 17, 2020
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