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  • Dionysos
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-08-20

    Hello Musictribe

    I've had the x32 and a XR18 for years with zero problems what so ever. Anyway; My brand new MR 18 died when I tried to route a recorded track back to the console in my DAW.

    It's simply dead now, no light anywere. I'm thinking it could be a fuse or something, but it has no fuse on the outside. Do you think my only option is to send it back (and wait for months) or can I check my fuse idea out without breaking the warrenty?

     

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    • Dionysos
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Kaj @Dionysos,


      Welcome to the forum. Before doing anything drastic like sending it back, have you tried plugging in your XR18 to the same power cord to make sure the cord, etc. is working? To be honest with you, I haven't opened up my MR18 (or XR18 for that matter) to see if there is a fuse inside. Both have been working flawlessly since I got them.


       

      • August 20, 2019
    • Dionysos
      Dionysos

      Hi Paul


      Yes, I've tried that. I geues it's just bad luck.


      It did, however, sound great the four days it was alive. I don't know if it was the better pre-amps, but it was really sweet, the fx came to life in a new way too. I will send it back - and hope to hear it again in 2019


      Thanks for your input

      • August 20, 2019
    • Dionysos
      KenMitchell

      If it's brand new, can't you just return it to where you bought it and get another one?  I'd expect that to be much quicker than trying to get it repaired under warranty. 


       


      Ken

      • August 20, 2019
  • Alphasounds
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-12

    I would like to use the aes 3 stereo input of a active system to avoid multible conversion. I have also a DL32 and a M32 but the mr would be perfect for smaller stuff butit is  loosing the live in the play back. I have used a yellowteck aes converter but the latency of 6ms is round trip with logic is just to much. Is there any sollution maybe with ultranet ?

    Thank You.

    Thor

    Alphasounds.com

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    • Alphasounds
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi @Alphasounds,


      The MR18 does not have AES input or output. Ultranet is a proprietary (Klark Teknik) one directional protocol that is designed to feed P16 and Ultranet capable speakers (eg. TurboSound iQ series). Also the M-Air (and X-Air) family of consoles were not designed for expansion. If you do need this, consider getting an X32 Rack and one of the AES capable stagebox (such as the DL16).


       

      • August 12, 2019
    • Alphasounds
      Alphasounds

      Thanks Paul. Sorry for the Spelling mistakes.


      The X air + DL 32 is just too ugly ...


      I muted the high mid out and use the subs, from aux 6 with another set of active tops with no DSP. The difference in latency is very little with a compressor plug in at the master.


      GreetingThor.


       

      • August 12, 2019
  • carminedi
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-08-10

    Hi guys,

    I am having som problems with the usb memoty stick.

    the desk doesn't see it, nor the offline editor.

    is there a special way to format it ? or what could the problem be ???

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    • carminedi
      garyh

      Wish I had a Pro9 to then have your issue!..so...Just guessing here but the size of the drive usually matters, probably less than 32 gig will work. If it were me I would try 16 gig or 8. Some drives just won’t work no matter what. Try formatting it Fat32 that is usually the format used. Some 32gig or larger drives may work if you can format them using fat 32. My best guess!

      • August 10, 2019
    • carminedi
      CARLOSPER

      Hi. If as Garyh says it has to be in FAT32.
      And I ask you, do you already have any scenes or Upgrades inside the USB memory?
      If you have to update the version. Create a folder with the name
      DL3Upgrades and inside place the file as it was downloaded.
      And insert the memory into the USB port with the blue LED on.
      You may have already done this.
      I hope it is useful.
      I remain at your service
      best regards
      Carlos M Perrone

      • August 10, 2019
  • nb3
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-08-08

    I’ve recently used a Pro2 and the Spectrum Analyzer on it is really nice. Just like the animation on it is super responsive and tight and because of that it’s more useful to me than any other spectrum analyzer I’ve used. I’m just using the default settings on it. Anybody know if there’s a way to get that same spectrum analyzer software as standalone software on your computer? Or better yet as a plug-in? I’m expecting that doesn’t exist, so this is more a request to Midas to make that a thing. I’m also wondering if anybody knows of a software spectrum analyzer that’s similar in its responsiveness and animation to Midas’s

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  • coreysound
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-07-31

    Just saw on twitter Midas put the Tc Electronic vss4 in the Pro series. Think they'll add it to m32? 

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    • coreysound
      VincentPouly

      Hi,


      Not PRO Series, only ProX consoles.


      It seems it needs CPU ans Neutron can provide it, not PRO1/2/2C.


       

      • July 31, 2019
  • gtcode
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-07-29
    Ok, after returning our DN9630 to get a used X32 Core, we finally have the components we need to cover all scenarios. Scenario 1: M32 AES50-A <-> DL32 AES50-A X32 Core AES50-A <-> DL32 AES50-B M32 sync is internal X32 Core sync is AES50-A Scenario 1, the AES50 syncs are both green on the DL32. Sync on the DL32 was green in this case. Audio seemed to work ok. Outputs should default in this case to the M32 since it's on AES50-A (that's my understanding?). Scenario 2: M32 is powered down, DL32 is still on X32 Core AES50-A <-> DL32 AES50-B In this case, we were unable to get the DL32 AES50-B to sync green. Question: Will Scenario 2 work? We want to leave the M32 powered off, and be able to use the X32 Core AES50-A to the DL32 AES50-B.
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    • gtcode
      Paul_Vannatto


      @gtcode wrote:

      Question: Will Scenario 2 work? We want to leave the M32 powered off, and be able to use the X32 Core AES50-A to the DL32 AES50-B.



      No it will not work. The DL32 can only receive the wordclock from the AES50 A port. So if you turn off the M32 (with sync as internal - thus master clock), you will have to connect the X32 Core to the DL32 AES50 A port and turn on the sync (on X32 Core) to internal. Just remember that when you want scenario to switch it back (AES50 B and sync to AES50 A).


       


      If you don't want to hassle with changing sync and ports, a better way to set this up would be:


      M32 [B] <-> [A] X32 Core [B] <-> [A] DL32


      Make the X32 Core master clock (sync = Internal) and M32 as slave (sync = AES50 B)


      X32 Core Routing, AES50-a screen (DL32 inputs to M32)


      * Outputs 1-8 -> AES50 B1-8


      * Outputs 9-16 -> AES50 B9-16


      * Outputs 17-24 -> AES50 B17-24


      * Outputs 25-32 -> AES50 B25-32


      X32 Core Routing, AES50-b screen (M32 outputs to DL32 outputs)


      * Outputs 1-8 -> AES50 A1-8


      * Outputs 9-16 -> AES50 A9-16


       


      For scenario 2, if you want X32 Core outputs to go to the DL32, you will probably want to change the Routing, AES50-b screen to:


      * Outputs 1-8 -> Out 1-8


      * Outputs 9-16 -> Out 9-16


       

      • July 29, 2019
    • gtcode
      gtcode

      Thanks Paul.  Would the proposed second setup introduce additional latency to the M32 since the audio is ostensibly now passing through the X32 Core?

      • July 29, 2019
    • gtcode
      Paul_Vannatto


      @gtcode wrote:


      Would the proposed second setup introduce additional latency to the M32 since the audio is ostensibly now passing through the X32 Core?





      If I remember correctly the AES50 latency is 0.9ms. So if you are traveling the speed of light, I guess that would be significant. 


       

      • July 29, 2019
    • gtcode
      gtcode

      I wonder exactly how they would add up.  Maybe it's 0.9ms per stage and side, so M32->X32Core->DL32->X32Core->M32 might introduce 4 * 0.9ms = 3.6ms round trip.

      • July 29, 2019
    • gtcode
      Paul_Vannatto

      Well all I can say is that of all of the many users I've helped (over the 6+ years) with similar scenarios (console <> console <> stagebox <> stagebox), I've yet to hear from one that complained about latency issues.

      • July 29, 2019
  • NelsonVega
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-07-23

    when trying to update pro2. this error appears. Which may be? error #52 - Failed security check ... thanksWhatsApp Image 2019-07-22 at 13.21.02.jpeg

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    • NelsonVega
      ChaseMcKnight

      Hi @NelsonVega 

      Typically this is due to a corrupt firmware, likely it just downloaded incorrectly. Try downloading the update file again from the website and if you can connect to the internet via landline, even better. 

      Re-format your USB drive (FAT or FAT32) and create a folder '  DL2Upgrades ' - then place the unzipped .tar file in the folder and try upgrading the console firmware again. 

      Let me know if you have any other issues.

      • July 25, 2019
  • ACE
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-07-24

    I first loved my X32 and now i fell in Love with my M32 Live but.......

    please, will there ever be a chance to load reverbs or the Combinator to the right side of the

    FX Rack?

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    • ACE
      RichardYClark

      No for either the X or M 32 I'm afraid. many of the FX that are in the left hand side are very processor intensive and the mixers don't have enough processing power to make all the effects work in all eight FX slots. You can only have the simpler FX in the right hand four slots.

      • July 24, 2019
  • Angelos7
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-07-18

    2 M32 + 1 DL32 sharing gain....is there any follow up gain feature that can be used at "slave console" to auto correct any gain changes from the"master console"????

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    • Angelos7
      DaveMorrison

      @Angelos7 Yes. There is a trim control for the console not controlling the pre-amps.

      • July 18, 2019
    • Angelos7
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Angelos @Angelos7,


      Welcome to the forum. Yes you can enable the HA Gain Sharing (Setup, Preamps screen) that will provide each console with digital trim (+-18 db) on each channel strip. What that means is that the console that has control of the physical preamps (gains, phantom) will have to adjust the physical gains on the Setup, Preamps screen).


       

      • July 18, 2019
    • Angelos7
      KevinMaxwell

      Let’s for example say you are talking about a FOH console as the master and the Monitor console as the Slave. I assume that what you are asking for is can the monitor console auto correct what the master console just did. In Other Words if a person on the FOH console just increases the preamp gain on a vocal mic is there a feature that will then decrease the gain (or trim) on the monitor console so that mix doesn’t change.


       


      The answer is no this feature is not in the M32 console system, at least not in an automated sense. It can be done manually but not automatically. This is why people recommend a hard wired or transformer split before the consoles preamps for a 2 console system with one at FOH and another one at Monitor world, so what one mix person does doesn’t affect the other mix person.

      • July 18, 2019
  • drice
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-06-13

    We have an M32 in our Broadcast TV station and the features are excellent, but we hate having to use up two faders for every stereo source input. I'm wondering if controlling a linked pair of inputs with a single fader might ever be a feature in a future firmware/software update?

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    • drice
      AnthonieHunter

      Did you consider controlling the pair with a DCA?

      • June 13, 2019
    • drice
      drice

      Using a DCA to control a stereo input is a great idea and I’m using four of them for that purpose currently. We’ve got about 10 stereo sources we’d like to have on single faders. The console has enough inputs for all of our sources, just trying to get the most frequently used ones on the top fader layer. And trying to get my sound ops used to a console that is not our analog 32 channel Verona!  Thanks for the input!

      • June 13, 2019
    • drice
      drice

      While playing around with the great options that everyone has been suggesting, I stumbled upon another possibility (provided you aren't concerned with keeping stereo separation on a particular input). This solution could also work as a kind of internal router, and works around the "routing in banks of eight only" limitation by allowing the placement of any single input on any fader. 


      Here's the theory (I have't actually tried it yet). Physically patch a cable between an available Aux Output and an XLR input in the 1-16 range (to put it on the first fader bank). Now you can internally route any one of your inputs to that Aux, and it will be available on that first bank's fader. Be sure to send that input prefader and pre-mute, then mute the actual input, so it does not feed the Main output from there. You'll now have full control of that input on the fader you chose, without having to change fader banks to get to it. You could send a stereo pair to that Aux and control it with that single fader (it will be summed mono of course), without burning a DCA or two top bank faders. 


      In our TV studio, we have to occasionally use different sources for different shows, and the mix can be unpredicatable, so having 1 or 2 "route-able" inputs can be really useful to keep the frequently used faders for that show on the top page/bank. We've got a lot of possible inputs from audio clip playback devices, graphics SFX, in-studio guest mics, phone callers, Skype guests and satellite guests, so it's not possible to keep them all on the first fader bank, and the mixer's installation makes it impractical to physically repatch before each show. I can save a scene for each possible scenario and just load the correct one once I know where all my sources are coming from for a particular show. 


      Thanks for all the great advice everyone, and I hope this idea can work for someone who might have been struggling with a similar issue (if it actually works and does not create some kind of audio black hole). 


       

      • June 15, 2019
    • drice
      KevinMaxwell


      @drice wrote:


      While playing around with the great options that everyone has been suggesting, I stumbled upon another possibility (provided you aren't concerned with keeping stereo separation on a particular input). This solution could also work as a kind of internal router, and works around the "routing in banks of eight only" limitation by allowing the placement of any single input on any fader. 


      Here's the theory (I have't actually tried it yet). Physically patch a cable between an available Aux Output and an XLR input in the 1-16 range (to put it on the first fader bank). Now you can internally route any one of your inputs to that Aux, and it will be available on that first bank's fader. Be sure to send that input prefader and pre-mute, then mute the actual input, so it does not feed the Main output from there. You'll now have full control of that input on the fader you chose, without having to change fader banks to get to it. You could send a stereo pair to that Aux and control it with that single fader (it will be summed mono of course), without burning a DCA or two top bank faders. 


      In our TV studio, we have to occasionally use different sources for different shows, and the mix can be unpredicatable, so having 1 or 2 "route-able" inputs can be really useful to keep the frequently used faders for that show on the top page/bank. We've got a lot of possible inputs from audio clip playback devices, graphics SFX, in-studio guest mics, phone callers, Skype guests and satellite guests, so it's not possible to keep them all on the first fader bank, and the mixer's installation makes it impractical to physically repatch before each show. I can save a scene for each possible scenario and just load the correct one once I know where all my sources are coming from for a particular show. 


      Thanks for all the great advice everyone, and I hope this idea can work for someone who might have been struggling with a similar issue (if it actually works and does not create some kind of audio black hole). 


       





      I am not understanding what this will give you unless you are talking about using a Mix Bus to mearge each pair of inputs.

      • June 16, 2019
    • drice
      drice

      Merging (summing) the stereo inputs to one fader is one possible use, the other is that this allows me to internally route any one of my inputs to the top bank of faders. Sure, I could do this by simply connecting that device to an input that already appears on the top layer, but the connections on the back of our mixer are not easily accessible, and depending on what sources we are using for a show, I might want to quickly place something on a top level fader that does not usually appear there. Some other mixers allow you to do this on an single input basis, but the M32 locks you into routing inputs to faders in banks of eight. 

      • June 17, 2019
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