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  • BRymes
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-23

    Hello, I have recently purchased a VoiceLive 3 Extreme.

    Can the stereo guitar input be used to provide 2 separate inputs from my piezo & humbucker equipped guitar?

    I have a PRS hollowbody that I would like to use for both acoustic and humbucker songs. I have recently purchased a Parker "Y" cable that combines the 2 mono guitar signals into a stereo input jack.

    https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PARKER20--pro-co-parker20-magnetic-piezo-guitar-y-cable-20-foot

    Thank you.

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    • BRymes
      Boydsongs

      I don't see any way to do that, since the VL3 only has a single guitar input. The way to get around it, is to use an A/B box after the VL3, and run to different amps, or channels. I use a similar guitar, and there are enough tweaks in the VL3 to handle acoustic, and electric sounds without running separate amps. [disclaimer} I do NOT use a lot of distotion effects, as I'm mostly rhythm, and surf leads.

      • August 23, 2019
    • BRymes
      BRymes

      I realize that there is only 1 guitar input, but my understanding is that it's supposed to be a stereo jack. 


      The parker "Y" cable assigns the piezo to the to the tip of the sterio jack and assigns the humbucker to the ring of the sterio jack. (essentially 2 mono inputs in 1 stereo jack) 


      I would like to be able to set up my acoustic presets to draw from the pan left/tip input and the humbucker presets to draw from the pan right/ring of the sterio input jack.

      • August 23, 2019
    • BRymes
      KenMitchell

      @BRymes 


       


      Hi Bill, 


       


      The Guitar Input on the VL3X is a TS Mono not Stereo.  The 3.5mm Aux input next to it is a stereo input but that's for line level accessories such as an iPod, etc. 


       


      Ken


       

      • August 23, 2019
  • Boydsongs
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-23

    I posted a question about audio delay from the HP out on my Perform V, and received an email with this case number (00992729). I can't find any referance to this case. Help?

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    • Boydsongs
      ChaseMcKnight

      Hi @Boydsongs 

      I do see that one of my Care colleagues responded to case 00992729 on 8/16/19 requesting more information however I just asked if they could reach back out to you - let me know if you receive their new email. Be sure to check your spam folder! 

      • August 23, 2019
  • marosell
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-23

    I'd like to try to side chain filter compression on my lead guitar based on the vocal channel. That way his sound doesn't have to be faded in and out when we gig live and the vocalist stays forefront when signing. The problem we're having is that the guitarist understandably doesn't like his own signal being cut out from his monitor mix when he's playing; it's distracting for one, but he also needs his volume set where he can hear what he's playing. Is there a way to make sure the side chain compression is only being filtered on the Main L/R and NOT out of the monitor mix?

    FYI, the monitor buses are being sent signal "Post-EQ" which I thought was pre-compression anyways, but I guess not pre-side-chain-compression?

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    • marosell
      RexBeckett

      @marosell 


      Hi Mike, welcome to the forum.


       


      If you use the Post EQ signal tap for the guitar channel send to the monitor bus, it will not be affected by the channel compressor. See the block diagram to understand how the signal taps are arranged in the channel processing path.


      XR18 Sends.PNG

      • August 23, 2019
    • marosell
      marosell

      Thanks Rex. The Post-EQ tap is being used, but for some reason my guitarist swears he can hear his signal drop in his monitor.

      • August 23, 2019
  • marosell
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-23

    My bassist has a new bass cabinet with a Hartke 3500 head on it, so now I can output the sound to my XR18. I can also output from "Effect"-out on the head to the XR18 and return the signal back to the head before outputing from the cabinet. 

    I'd like to figure out a way, if possible, so that I can use an XR18 channel fader on the master fader panel to control the sound in the bass cabinet. I think I can bring the signal in on a channel and output it from an Aux with a xlr-to-trs plug back to the head, but then I'll have to control the volume using a fader on one of the busses. Is there a way to route the IN/OUT so that the master channel fader control the volume?

    Thanks!

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    • marosell
      RexBeckett

      @marosell 


      Hi Mike, you don't need to use a bus. You can drive an Aux output from a channel post fader. For example, the following would drive Aux6 from Channel 10 post-fader:


      XR18 Aux.PNGIf you don't want the bass channel in the main mix, remove it on its Main tab by clicking on the LR button:


      XR18 LR.PNG

      • August 22, 2019
  • marosell
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-23

    Long time lurker first time poster! I'm gigging with my band live tonight and it's the first time we're using the bass player's cabinet. The head on his cabinet is the Hartke 3500. Previous equipment did not have the ability to send/return signal to a mixing board, but now we do.

    My question: If I bring the signal from the head into the XR18 on a channel (say, channel 2) from the effects send, then return the signal via Aux 2 to the head's return (xlr to trs adapter?), can the cabinet's volume be controlled via the XR18? I assume this would be very similar to using Bus2/Aux2 as a personal monitor, and only playing Channel 2 from this "monitor".

    Further: If so, I see that I can route the IN/OUT such that Aux2 is soley in receipt of Channel 2 instead of Bus 2. If I do this, can I control the volume going to the bass cabinet with the Channel 2 fader on the Master Fader Panel and not have to open the bus panel? Is there any other way to route signal such that the bass cabinet can be controlled from the Master Fader Panel?

    Thanks!

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  • JohnGaia
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-22

    I bought an XR18 two weeks ago and set my first gig with no problem, all the preamps were working fine but last week I noticed that I had to push up the Mic Gain to +60 on my Talk Back channel to get a good input level (the meter shows green almost yellow)  So I turned off the mixer and power it up again and just for few seconds the preamp worked well before going low again. I have changed the xlr cable, mic and it doesnt change

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    • JohnGaia
      RexBeckett

      @JohnGaia 


      Hi Jonathan, welcome to the forum.


       


      Does this problem only happen on one channel? If you change the channel to use a different analog input (on the Input tab), does the problem remain?


       


      If you attach your scene file to your post (see Choose File button below) we can check for any configuration issues.

      • August 21, 2019
    • JohnGaia
      Paul_Vannatto


      @JohnGaia wrote:


      last week I noticed that I had to push up the Mic Gain to +60 on my Talk Back channel to get a good input level





      I'm curious as to how/why you are using a talkback mic on an XR18. Typically talkback is from FOH with a snake to the inputs/outputs on stage. The XR18 is the stagebox (inputs/outputs) and is usually located on the stage. 

      • August 21, 2019
    • JohnGaia
      JohnGaia


      Hi,


      I tried rerouting the input as you told me and the preamp worked it looks like the problem is coming from the stagebox (XR18), I attached the scene that I've been using since I got my hands on it.



      RockBand.scn
      • August 22, 2019
    • JohnGaia
      RexBeckett


      @JohnGaia wrote:




      Hi,


      I tried rerouting the input as you told me and the preamp worked it looks like the problem is coming from the stagebox (XR18), I attached the scene that I've been using since I got my hands on it.







      @JohnGaia


      Let me check if I understand correctly: The problem is with channel 16 (TB)? If you change the input to another preamp - say 15 - it works correctly? If yes to both, it may be a hardware problem. I would call your supplier.


       


      I don't see anything in your scene that would cause this problem on channel 16. I noticed than channel 8 (VOX1) has a very high gain (60dB). Is this also because of a problem?

      • August 22, 2019
  • musictalks
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-08-23

    I've a problem with my X32. The power shut down and now only the buttons on the right of the monit light (but are dim). Out of warranty, so cracked it open and have the following voltages from the PSU (main connector, 13pin)

    1) 47v, 2) 15.14v, 3) 6.67v, 4) 15v, 5) 0v, 6) 8.25v, 7) 3.3v, 8) 5.0v, 9) 5.0v, 10) 5.0v, 11) 0v, 12) 0v, 13) 0v

    235.2 v ac coming in through the back.

    Can anyone confirm if these are correct or not?

    Cheers from Australia

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  • gtcode
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-21

    We have an M32 AES50-B <-> X32 Core A <> X32 Core B <-> DL32 A

     

    Sync master is X32 Core

     

    We are not always getting sync on power up

     

    1) Is there a special power up sequence here? X32 Core first?

    2) Can they be arbitrarily power cycled (as long as the X32 core being the master is on)

     

    Maybe the X32 Core which I got used has a problem here?

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    • gtcode
      Paul_Vannatto


      @gtcode wrote:


      We are not always getting sync on power up


      Anytime I get intermittent sync, it is usually due to a flakey AES50 cable.


      1) Is there a special power up sequence here? X32 Core first?


      I normally power up the master clock device first. But it seems to sync irrespective of the order.


      Maybe the X32 Core which I got used has a problem here?


      I would suspect a cable.





       

      • August 21, 2019
    • gtcode
      gtcode

      Thanks Paul


      We lost sync between X32Core+DL32.


      We powere cycled them both which fixed sync


      This caused M32+X32Core sync to be lost


      We reset M32, sync still lost


      We powered everything down then turned on X32Core+M32, waited for them to boot/sync, then turned on M32 and it worked finally.


       


      As per these steps, sync was lost on both cables at separate times


       


      If this is supposed to be robust on bootup at all times I'd suspect the X32 Core since sync was lost or not achieved on both AES ports of the X32 Core

      • August 21, 2019
    • gtcode
      gtcode

      By the way, we did not move or change any AES or other cables at all during this process.  Entirely related to reboots and the like.

      • August 21, 2019
    • gtcode
      gtcode

      Sorry no edit feature. We are using high quality AES50 cables here for both cables. Odds they are problematic is extremely low, and odds that both happened to fail is even lower. Sorry no edit feature on these posts my bad

      • August 21, 2019
    • gtcode
      Paul_Vannatto

      Have you tried to change the master to the M32?


      Are the AES50 cables shielded with ethercons on each end?


      Have you tried re-aligning the RJ45 connectors inside the ethercon ends (by loosening the stress nut, plugging the end into a jack, wiggling slightly, then tightening the nut)?

      • August 21, 2019
  • ron-e-g
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-22

    I can't get the sound driver for my Uphoria 404 to share with two programs at once! It won't for example work with my Line6 PODFarm  guitar sim and Guitar Tonemaster.com site so I can jam along with their jam songs. Too if I have Lets say EZ drums2 open the guitar site or any other site such as youtube won't play any audio. Soon as I close the PODFarm or ezd2 They will play again! Any help greatly appreciated.

    Ron

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    • ron-e-g
      KenMitchell

      Hi Ron ( @ron-e-g ), 


       


      This has been an ongoing issue for some time now.  Assuming you are on Windows since I've never had a problem on Mac?   This is caused by bitrate conflicts between the two programs.   


       


      I've had some success in Windows by doing the following to match the bitrate: 


       


      1. Start with no programs running. 


      2. Open the UMC Control Panel and go to the "Status" tab. 


      3. Note the "Current Sample Rate".  This is reporting what the interface is currently set to. 


      4. Open up Guitar Tonemaster.com and start to play a backing track. 


      5. Make note of what the current sample rate is in the UMC control panel. It may have changed. 


      6. In your DAW, create a project with the same sample rate and add your guitar sim to an instrument track. 


      7. Both should work now. 


       


      YouTube is a little trickier since each file you play may have a different sample rate.  You either have to do the same steps above for each file or your can use another trick.  What I do is use a tool called Audio Hijack (Mac) to save the audio to a .WAV file and then I add that to my DAW project along with whatever plugin I want to use.  I'm sure there are similar programs for Windows to capture audio from another program. 


       


      Hope this helps, 


      Ken

      • August 22, 2019
    • ron-e-g
      ron-e-g

      I'm not sure we are tracking the same Ken. Thanks for your response. My problem here doe not involve any of my DAWs.  Stand alone  only.  I like to jam along to different jam songs without opening any of my DAWs.  I have two.


      Interesting enough..This problem doe not exist with my stand alone Guitar Rig 5. But soon as I try to play through POD farm,  the  Guitar Tone.com site sound stops , and all I get is the perpetual circuling  arrow! Also If I try to open any other of my  stand alone audio programs like EZ drum, EZ keys , SampleTank or AmpliTube. It imidetaly stops audio in the playing track in the guitar tone site, or touTube site ,or what ever might be playing. I should mention here, I had problems..a lot when I upgraded to Win.10 back when. I thought they were resolved. So I don't know if this is a Windows thing or Behringer, or what. Once this event happens..I have to re-boot the CPU to get the player working again.

      • August 22, 2019
    • ron-e-g
      ron-e-g

      OK..Think I figured it out. I had to go to..Control Panel>Sound>line out 1-2 click on that then choose advanced Tab , and select from the drop-down list the same sample rate as the other programs seem to be using 24bit 44100Hz instead of 48000 Hz.  All playing well together again!

      • August 22, 2019
    • ron-e-g
      KenMitchell

      Hi @ron-e-g ,


       


      Glad to hear you got it working but... that will only work until some random SOB comes by and sets the bitrate back to 48000.  Just so you are aware. 


       


      Usually, the standalone versions of things like Guitar Rig are just .exe wrappers for the plugins so there's usually a place where you can change the birate for those as well. Similar to what I described when starting a new project in your DAW. 


       


      Hope this helps, 


      Ken

      • August 22, 2019
  • EllisLampman
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-08-22

    How do I get the effects to go down with channel slider as it does with main LR? I drop the volume on a vocal channel in a monitor buss and I hear all of the wet signal. 

    Thanks

    E

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    • EllisLampman
      Paul_Vannatto


      @EllisLampman wrote:


      How do I get the effects to go down with channel slider as it does with main LR? I drop the volume on a vocal channel in a monitor buss and I hear all of the wet signal. 





      That is because the channel sends taps (post fader) to the buses feeding the FX (typically buses 13-16) are related to the channel strip faders, not the individual channel sends faders to the other buses that feed your monitors. Therefore the resulting wet mix returned is a result of the processing of those channel strip fader levels.

      • August 22, 2019
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