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    DaveBeard
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-10-22

    I've been using my 4 year old X Air 18 with the same computer running Windows 10 almost daily, and suddenly yesterday evening when I powered up my "studio", no sound could be heard from any of my inputs.For about 4 years all I have needed to do was power the X18, then power up my PC, (or vice versa) and I could hear all my inputs including the output audio of my PC.

    Now, I have to open the X Air editor program to hear my inputs and see the X Air digital meters respond to audio. At about 80% load progress of the editor, I begin to hear sound. Very peculiar. Very irritating.

    Has anybody experienced this?

    I am running V1.5 of the X Air editor, and W10 Pro v 10.0.19041 Build 19041.

     

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    • DaveBeard
      DaveBeard Current firmware version is 1.09 fwiw.
      • Fri at 12:45 PM
    • DaveBeard
      Paul_Vannatto That firmware is pretty old Dave. Current version is 1.18 and X-Air Edit 1.7. I would suggest you first update both firmware and Edit.
      • Fri at 1:12 PM
    • DaveBeard
      DaveBeard

      Thanks Paul, I have updated both successfully, and unfortunately, there is no change in my issue.

      • Fri at 2:47 PM
    • DaveBeard
      Paul_Vannatto When you sync X-Air Edit to the PC, which direction are you doing it - Mixer to PC or PC to Mixer?
      • Fri at 3:20 PM
    • DaveBeard
      DaveBeard

      PC to Mixer

      • Fri at 4:07 PM
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    JAS3712
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-10-17

    After using the Flow 8 for a while I am ready for a Flow 12 or 16! Hope either of those are being developed. And hope they have NDI (Network Device Interface) support over Ethernet or Wi-Fi 6E or both!

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    • JAS3712
      PedroRodrigues Hi JAS3712, thank you for your post, at this moment we cannot confirm any future releases, nevertheless please keep an eye on our social media for any news. Thank you
      • 15 hours ago
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    schilcur2112
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-10-19

    While I'm not a newbie, I'm not an expert either, and I'm having difficulty getting simple reverb on a vocal channel, either via inserting into the channel, or send/return. I have the Hall Reverb set up in the FX1 slot. Sending channel 1 (vocal) to FX1, and FX1 is sending signal to the Main. The meters display indicates everything is getting/sending signal, yet I don't hear any reverb in either headphones or main signal routed through amp and speaker. Same issue if I try to insert reverb into channel 1.....no reverb. I have a feeling there is a button somewhere that isn't pushed or set right.

    I'm using the Xair app on the Ipad to run an XR 16 mixer. Have looked at all the pertinent YT videos and am not having any success. On a separate rant, the app illustrated on the YT videos does not resemble the app I'm currently using. Would love to see something on YT using the current XAir app.

    Thanks for the help.

    Curt

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    • schilcur2112
      schilcur2112 Ok, an little update after messing it more this morning. I was able to get reverb by inserting Effect 1 (or any of the others) into the Main channel. While I'm happy to actually get any reverb, inserting it into the mains is not the way to do it. However, bolstered by this success I went back to Channel 1 and inserted Effect 1 and......nothing. But, when I inserted effect 2 (3 and 4), they worked. I went back and edited effect 1 to be identical to effect 2 and I still get nothing when inserting effect 1, which makes absolutely no sense, unless something, somewhere, in effect 1 channel settings is set wrong. Still, I can't get send/return method to work with any of the effect returns (1 thru 4). Pic below captures the meters page showing signal supposedly going to all the right places.
      • Tue at 7:43 AM
    • schilcur2112
      Paul_Vannatto Goto the FX screen where you can see the 4 FX slots. What FX is assigned to slot 1? Is the Insert button selected? From what you describe, in all likelihood, the Insert button is selected and the inputs are assigned as an insert to something you are not using. If you want it to be a sends/return (sidechain), change the input assignment to Off.

      If you want reverb, you want it as a sidechain (sends to FX1 and returned to FX1L/FX1R) since reverbs do not have a wet/dry mix adjustment. Setting a reverb as an insert will only give you 100% reverb output, which you don't want.
      • Tue at 8:10 AM
    • schilcur2112
      schilcur2112

      Paul V, appreciate the suggestion. I'm pretty sure I tried turning off all the insert buttons, but I'll go back and verify. Will update after I give it a try. Thanks.

      • Tue at 11:46 AM
    • schilcur2112
      schilcur2112 ok, partial success. Turned off insert everywhere....on the effects themselves, and in the individual channels. Sending channel one signal to effect 1 (vintage reverb), increase fader on effect 1, and I get reverb. Perfect! Try to set up the exact same thing for channel two/effect two and channel 3/effect three and I get no reverb. If I send channel 2 or 3 to effect 1, I get reverb. This is the kind of thing that aggravates me.....do exactly the same thing and get a different result. Is it possible that effects 2 and 3 are routed differently? When routing ch2/eff2 and ch3/eff3 I can see in the effects window that both eff2 and eff3 are getting and outputting signal, same as ch1/eff1 when I do hear reverb.
      • Tue at 1:31 PM
    • schilcur2112
      Paul_Vannatto Are the FX2L/2R and FX3L/3R return channel strips muted or faders all the way down? What about the FX2 and FX3 buses (sends) - are they muted or faders all the way down? Also check the FX2L/FX2R and FX3L/FX3R LR is enabled (on the Main screen).
      • Tue at 2:38 PM
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    Mike7300
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-10-22

    I just bought an XR12.  Is it possible to plug in a Bluetooth interface with dual rca? I'm looking to connect my iPhone to the mixer to play music out of it. With my X32 rack there are stereo left right that I connect the rca cable to.  Thanks!

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    • Mike7300
      Paul_Vannatto Yes you should be able to use a bluetooth interface. But you will need a couple of RCA to 1/4" cables to connect to the XR12.
      • Fri at 1:15 PM
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    DanielThompson
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-10-22

    Thanks to Paul Vannatto and others on this forum/tribe. The lightbulb turned on. I get it now. I understand how the parts connect, how to make changes easily, and get it to do what we need. It's very exciting. 

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    JulPeach
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-10-22

    First of all, as a pro sound engineer and recent owner of the Behringer FLOW 8 mixer, I’d like to say THANK YOU to create a small digital mixer with all its capabilities, that I waited since a long time to do lots of things.
    To be more versatile, the FLOW 8 could have some improvements. Some fonctions are really missing, others could be useful. This could make the FLOW 8 to be used in many other situations.
    I think and hope these modifications can be achieved with ease, thanks to app and firmware updates.

    List of request for FLOW 8 Mixer & App improvements:
    Essentials improvements:
    - The possibility to switch MON 1 & MON 2 :  PRE / POST Fader (selectable per channel)
    (exemple -> fade out in LR for FOH, and fade out in the MON on stage at the same time)
    - MUTE et SOLO per channel -> access in the App mixer page (not only in the channel settings)
    - CLEAR SOLO access from Mixer surface (really annoying from the app only)
    - Phase Reverse (⍉) on microphones inputs 1- 2 - 3 - 4  (exemple to reverse the bottom mic of a snare)
    - Compressor Settings (With + parameters) to have access to Threshold / Ratio / Attack / Release
    - Noise Gate ( basic at least ) on Inputs channels (can be really useful)
    - Access Output Delay in the App - (Delta 0…341ms)
    - MUTE et SOLO per channel -> possibility to control from Mixer surface
    (Mute, Solo, Pan, and maybe also EQ, Gate, Comp, Limiter…)
    - Using MUTE switch as a Mute Group (selectable per channel)
    - Routing - > send FX returns to MON 1 or MON 2 or phones (not only in LR mix)

    If possible technically with the FLOW 8:
    - Provide Phantom Power +48 V on Mic 3 / 4 channels
    - Unlink Inputs 5/6 & 7/8 (2 x stereo) To 5, 6, 7, 8 (4 x mono inputs)
    (even with the same physical fader for the channels 5/6 & 7/8, could be controlled in the app or with a different Gain, Eq etc..)
    - Channel Input Delay can be useful (for exemple: monitoring audio from video)
    - Possibility Unlink Output equalizers
    - Possibility L/R Stereo summing to Mono

    And of course: for a next generation of FLOW mixer, motorized faders could be awesome ; )
    Thank You and Cheers !

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    Midas
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-10-20

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    The Midas HERITAGE-D Series Digital Mixers and I/O Interfaces are designed to serve our Tour Sound and Installed Sound Customers.

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    DanielThompson
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-10-19

    I think I understand when routing inputs to the Card, it sends the inputs "after the preamp". But what does that mean? Is gain part of the preamp? EQ? Any Dynamics or Gating? Not the raw input, correct? Certainly not the fader, mute, solo controls, as those are after the preamp and are parts of the input channel, correct?

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    • DanielThompson
      Nigel67 Hi DanielThompson. 'After the preamp' means that the signal is taken straight after the analogue mic amp gain stage, whether it is the mic amp from an IO box or the mic amps from the XLRs built into the rear of the console (Local Inputs).
      • Tue at 10:39 PM
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    chappy119
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-10-19

    HOW DO YOU CONTACT THIS COMPANY TO GO ABOUT FIXING A GO XLR I HAVE BEEN ON THIS SITE 2 DAYS REGISTERED FOR AN ACCOUNT AND THERE IS ZERO CONTACT INFORMATION? HOW DO YOU GET AHOLD OF ANYONE?

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    • chappy119
      KyleJohnson Hello, Kyle here with Music Tribe. In order to contact our service or technical support teams please click on Support and then choose the appropriate selection to submit a ticket.
      • Tue at 1:33 PM
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    DanielThompson
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-10-18

    If, on the Card Tab, I map the Local 1-8 to the USB card, is that sending the raw XLR Inputs 1-8 to the USB? Or is it sending the outputs of Input Channels 1-8, and if so is it post fader, or post EQ? Also, why are inputs 17-24 not assignable to the Card Output?

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    • DanielThompson
      Paul_Vannatto Assigning Local to the Card screen assigns signals directly after the physical XLR input preamps.

      Regarding your second question ("why are inputs 17-24 not assignable to the Card Output?"), are you by chance trying to setup routing using the iPad app? If so don't. That app is designed as a mixing app and is not the best for doing complex routing and setup. I always use the X32-Edit app (for Mac, Windows, linux or Raspberry Pi) to do any setup (routing, etc.).
      • Mon at 4:49 PM
      • X32 Card Output - so confusing
        DanielThompson RIght, not using an iPad app.

        So if we assign the inputs to the card that way we're bypassing the input channels (faders) correct? Which would explain why, when we muted the input channels we still got signal through the card. There are too many things called "input", it gets confusing.

        So, I guess we cannot use 17-24 to the card then. Our original plan was to have the physical XLR inputs assigned to input channels 17-24 and 1-8, Then we were going to assign inputs 17-24 to the card and 1-8 to the main LR out, giving us one set of faders to the mains and one set to the card. We had to flip that around and put 17-24 to the mains now and 1-8 go to the card because the card won't take 17-24. But if you're saying the input channel is bypassed going to the card then it doesn't matter.
        • Mon at 6:31 PM
    • DanielThompson
      Paul_Vannatto I would suggest that in your thinking, from a routing perspective, separate physical inputs (Local, AES50, Card) from channel strip processing. If you want the physical inputs to go to the card outputs, then select the Local, AES50, etc). If you want channel strip processing to go to the card outputs, then you have to use one of the staging (patching) screens (Out 1-16, Aux Out, Ultranet) to assign the DirOut Ch and change the taps (eg. pre EQ, post EQ, etc.) as desired. Then assign that bank of 8 to the card outputs.

      I'm not sure why you are saying you "cannot use 17-24 to the card" - 17-24 what?
      • Mon at 7:02 PM
    • DanielThompson
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Daniel, unfortunately you replied to the notification, rather than the main thread, which sends the the reply to a parallel universe. I sent you a PM (personal message - mail icon top right corner).
      • Tue at 7:24 AM
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