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    MichaelWells
    Contributor - Level 2
    2022-05-11

    I have had a perform-vk for several months now, and lately - it simply will not connect to voice support, even though it is plugged into the usb port. I have never really understood app-wise that there is no app that will let you configure the unit.  The phone app does not give separate access to the features, it simply names a thousand popular artists and you are to choose one and upposedly it handles the configuration.  My problem is that even that feature doesn't work.  My untit seems to work perfectly until i try to connect to voice support or my phone, then nothing seems to work right.  For now, what I want is to use the three setups like 

    1. one voice pitch corrected slightly with reverb

    2. Two High - original voice and one or 2 higher harmonies (preferably one) with reverb.

    3. doubling with some reverb.

    I was able to program a pedal for the above.

    But #3 somehow got changed and lost the doubling. 

    1. Is there a way to program doubling on the unit itself?

    2.  why does the unit always say it is in use by another app even after a fresh reboot?

    3.  Is there no phone app that actually works?  Even the beaming doesn't seem to work right. I Would like to be able to easily choose doubling, and even hard tune on occasion

     

     

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    Livemusic
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-05-10

    It's been a while since I used my play acoustic . No when I use the hit button the harmonies occasionally break up . I use a Shure sm58 mic . Any ideas anyone . I'm on the most updated firm/software . I've ordered a new mic cabile in case is that breaking down . 
    thank in advance 

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    • Livemusic
      PedroRodrigues Hi Livemusic, thank you for your post I would suggest following the guidance present on the link below to perform an update on your unit even if your are already running the lasts Firmware version. https://wsi.li/dl/tNC4Xj8ZnjLHZusuH/ When the Firmware update is concluded please tested your Play Acoustic with the new XLR cable. Thank you
      • May 11
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    SteveSchow
    Super Contributor - Level 2
    2022-05-09

    It has been a while since i used my VLP GTX and getting back into gigging now..  I think there were some firmware updates since the last time I used it (2013).  I would like to know if there are any documents that explain the new features or changers that were added in these firmware updates, that adds to whatever is in the normal user manual?

    Also I would like to know what differences, if any, exist between the GTX and the the regular PLAY...since the PLAY is still in production and probably has received even more updates...while the GTX is out of of product and probably stopped getting updates.  

    The main reason I like my GTX was because of the midi input capability.  But I recall from years ago some feedback problems occasionally with it and its possible they updated PLAY's firmware to eliminate the feedback maybe?  Anything else different?

    I saw questions on here a while ago asking what features I'd like to see in a future product....

    I really liked my GTX a lot back when I was using it, I don't need fancy features like looping, harmonies...just basic pitch correction, sometimes some tone mods..  I'm back up singer that needs to be in tune and sometimes pitch my voice up an ocative...and sometimes add some doubling and stuff like that.  If there is ever a more up to date version of VLP, that still has midi..and maybe also adds some of the newer vocal FX that TCHelicon has been coming out with in the smaller pedals...perhaps improved DSP, etc..I would definitely buy one.  The beauty of this pedal was smaller size and simplicity.

    I also definitely used the onboard ambient mics to feed my IEM's with stage sound...that has been very useful for me.  A pedal which combines VLP functionality with also a personal IEM mixer would be very useful for a lot of people.  An IEM mixer needs to combine my own mic, with my own instrument (without using built in guitar or keyboard sounds), the FOH monitor feed, as well as the ambient mics....ideally with ability to pan each of those things into a stereo IEM mix to help distinguish them a bit (ambients are already stereo).  Also, if this was provided with a mic splitter..to send pure mic to FOH...even better.  

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    • SteveSchow
      NicJonesMT Hi SteveSchow.
      You can view the firmware release documents through the VoiceSupport application.
      Can you please submit a ticket if you are having issues seeing these.
      The main difference between the Play and the GTX is that the GTX has been specifically designed to function with an electric guitar. An Example would be the amp simulators that are provided on the GTX model. Please feel free to submit a ticket and we can advise you further on this.
      • May 10
    • SteveSchow
      kiskadar69 1. "there are any documents that explain the new features or changers that were added in these firmware updates?"
      v1.2.03 Build 50: Mic Boost parameter, Switch-3 programming
      v1.2.11 Build 61 (March 9, 2015, latest): fixes an issue where looper recordings could contain random pops and clicks
      Which version is your Play GTX currently running?

      2. "what differences, if any, exist between the GTX and the the regular Play?"
      The TC-Helicon VoiceLive Play GTX..
      2.1. ..cannot handle the three small buttons of the TC-Helicon MP-76 microphone
      2.2. ..has MIDI In and MIDI settings, can be controlled by MIDI
      2.3. ..has a "Notes" style in the Harmony block. In Notes mode, the notes for harmonies are not guessed by Play GTX, but follow the Note On and Note Off commands received via MIDI pretty much exactly
      2.4. ..has INST IN input
      2.5. ..has INST THRU output
      2.6. ..has GND switch for XLR outputs
      2.7. ..has electric/acoustic guitar effects block
      2.8. ..Switch-3 switches can also be programmed with Gtr Delay, Gtr Reverb, Gtr uMod, Gtr Boost
      2.9. ..is white, the display is blue

      3. "possible they updated PLAY's firmware to eliminate the feedback maybe?"
      I don't know about that, but I think feedback can be overcome by setting up and using the device correctly.

      4. "there is ever a more up to date version of VLP, that still has MIDI"
      Unfortunately, no. Check out TC-Helicon Perform-VK.
      • May 10
    • SteveSchow
      SteveSchow Thanks for getting back to me.

      I am aware of the basic differences between these two models according to standard marketing materials. I'm more interested to find out what has been updated to either of these units through firmware updates sincd 2013.

      Ironically, I don't use guitar in the GTX. I bought it specifically because it has midi input port. Also because the onboard condensor microphone can be used as an ambient mic for my IEM's. This makes the GTX much more useful generally, unless PLAY has been updated, but I see that it has not..so this may be moot point.

      Back in the 2013 days, the GTX (and maybe PLAY?) had a strong tendency to get feedback unless you changed the tone to settings that might prevent feedback by lowering treble but also didn't sound as good. At some point my understanding is that TC updated the firmware in PLAY with a specific feedback suppression capability that can be switched on, but it was not added to the GTX at the time, I guess because the GTX had been discontinued I'm not sure.

      But then later in 2015 there was a firmware update to the GTX again anyway, which I'm not sure right now whether I have that yet, I have to get my GTX out of storage and connect it to my computer to find out. But anyway, I am wondering if they added that feedback suppression to the GTX also at that time? That would be EXTREMELY good if they did, it would make me very happy.

      I don't know if I can switch to PLAY from the GTX in order to get better feedback suppression. Mainly because I am definitely using the GTX's built in condensor mics as IEM ambient mics.

      The other larger and more sophisticated VL's are not an option for me as I am just a backup singer and I don't want a box that is that big and complicated for what I do. The GTX is/was nearly perfect, except feedback was sometimes a problem with it.
      • May 10
  • New
    Takelmeifter
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-05-09

    Is there any documentation available on the voicelive play's sysex implementation?
    I have one but find it a little tedious to make changes with just the built-in encoder. i was hoping that voicesupport 2 supported preset editing for this but sadly not.

    i know there are third-party programs available for other products (i.e. the GTX) but was unable to find any for the standard play, so i thought i would try and do that myself - but this will be a tedious process without any documentation.

    Only documentation i've found so far is for the voicelive 3 but i'm assuming that this wouldn't translate to the play

    Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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    • Takelmeifter
      NicJonesMT Hi Takelmeifter
      Can you please click support at the top of the page and submit a technical support ticket.
      We can then look into this for you.
      • May 10
  • New
    Makoprowski
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-05-06

    Hi :) I'm an owner of a voicelive 3 and I have a problem with reverb. No matter what I do with settings of any reverb i can't hear any difference, like it just doestn work. I tried to change settings, decay etc but there is no difference. Maybe someone could help me with this, thank you

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    • Makoprowski
      PedroRodrigues Hi Makoprowski, thank you for your post, first you must confirm that you have edit the Reverb on the Global Preset, by default is Preset no.491. Then go to each Preset where you would like to use the same Reverb, go to Reverb settings and change the Global parameter to On, allowing you to use the Reverb settings from the Global Preset on the chosen Preset.

      Please Tap the Reverb footswitch to turns the Reverb effect ON or OFF to confirm that the configuration was successful.

      This effect can be configured and used separately for the Vocal and Guitar layer.

      It is vital to check the Vocal and the Guitar Reverb effect block/tab.
      Each of the Vocal and Guitar Reverb effect blocks offers a big number of parameters that allow you to adjust this effect.

      It is also important to confirm how have you set up the Reverb on the Effects Mix to adjust the overall sound of your presets. The Voc Reverb will control the overall level of the Vocal Reverb effect across your presets while the Guitar Reverb will perform the same function as Voc Reverb for the Guitar Reverb in all your Presets.

      Please follow the link below to access a video guide that will help you on this matter:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZE1syW6mx3Q

      For more information please check the product page for your unit:

      https://www.tc-helicon.com/tchelicon/product?modelCode=P0CDY


      Thank you
      • May 7
    • Makoprowski
      Makoprowski

      Reverb works on guitar section only.

      • May 7
    • Makoprowski
      Makoprowski Hi Pedro I did all steps you wrote, but reverb doesnt work on global settings also, reverb se tion works only with guitar. On vocal nothings change, no sound of reverb at all, any advices? Thanks
      • May 9
    • Makoprowski
      PedroRodrigues

      Hi Makoprowski, thank you for your reply, in that case I would suggest to follow the link below to submit an assistance request directly to our Tech support Team so we can assist you with more tools. https://community.musictribe.com/pages/create-new-ticket?type=Technical%20Support&brand=TCHelicon Thank you

      • May 11
  • New
    jshangst
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-05-07

    The Voicelive Play does not react at all to the MCA 100.  I have set up the VP for the correct mic type and have verified with a multimeter that the XLR cable is fine and the 48 V phantom power is present (the button lights up.).  I have also downloaded and installed the latest firmware for the VP.  I have tried with all of the modes: Hit; Hit/Talk and preset up; nothing works.  Is there something else to try, or is the MCA 100 just defective? 

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    • jshangst
      NicJonesMT Hi JshangSt. Please click support at the top of the page and submit a technical support ticket.
      We need you to provide a detailed description of your full setup and exactly what is happening.
      • May 8
    • jshangst
      kiskadar69 Tip 1: set SETUP / "Mic Type" to "MP-75 MIC".
      Tip 2: set the SETUP / "Mic Control" parameter.
      Tip 3: the MCA100 is not compatible with condenser microphones but can be used with any dynamic microphone.
      Tip 4: you need to connect the MCA100 and VoiceLive Play with a standard 3-wire microphone cable (2 wires is not enough and you can't put a wireless microphone system between them).
      Tip 5: restart the VoiceLive Play AFTER you connect the MCA100 +microphone.
      Tip 6: if you are not using an original power supply for VoceLive Play, try an original power supply. The processors can happily deal with a less than optimal power supply. However, the external switching is based on precise voltage sensing across what would normally be the phantom power circuit. The problem being that sub-optimal power supplies have different voltage drop characteristics during high current draw.
      • May 9
    • jshangst
      jshangst

      Thanks; I have checked all of these things. The mics I have tried are SM57 and SM58; cables are all tested. Is it possible to diagnose what is going on by removing the mic and measuring the signals on the exposed pins? (I am an experimental physicist and have access to any kind of test equipment you can imagine.)

      • May 9
      • MCA100 not working with Voicelive Play
        kiskadar69 "Is it possible to diagnose what is going on by removing the mic and measuring the signals on the exposed pins?": even if this is possible, TC-Helicon will never tell us the procedure
        Tip 7: do not connect the MCA100 directly to the microphone. Use a short microphone cable.
        • May 9
    • jshangst
      vampirexx

      Hi all i got the same problem with my tc helicon Perform-V and the mca100 adapter, the button is blue all seems to be connected but the switch doesnt work, how can i solve? Thanx

      • May 22
    • jshangst
      Shizzdigg81

      Same here, have the voicelive play, and the mp75, preferred the sound on my Sennheiser e935 so I though I would try this route. Following the directions above, no dice. I need to know has anyone had any luck with this or if I need to send it back because it just doesn't work?

      • Jun 6
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    StratLover58
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-04-30
    Can I use an overdrive or distortion pedal with my Harmony V60 if I use headphones?
     
    On a side note. I'm new to this website and I find this discussion platform one of the worst I've ever used. It is very difficult to navigate. I can find no place where I can join a tribe. And....it is incredibly slow. Not user friendly at all. On top of it all I see many discussions where the person's question or problem never gets an answer from other users or customer service or tech support. Some entries are several years old.
     
    Just saying this whole format needs improvement.
     
    Thanks
    Tim
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    • StratLover58
      PedroRodrigues Hi StratLover58, thank you for your post, regarding your question about the Harmony V60 with headphones, please consider that any signal present on the Master will also be available on the Headphones. Please accept out apologies we are working to constantly improve our MT COMMUNITY. When it comes to joint please see the picture below :
      • May 6
    • StratLover58
      StratLover58

      Pedro, Thanks for responding. Your answer to my question is a bit obtuse. Of course whatever signal is at the master will be present in the headphones. I’m trying to determine if an overdriven or distortion input signal will damage the circuitry. I wouldn’t put an overdriven signal through to the speaker because I’m pretty sure that would damage the speaker. Hence the use of headphones.

      • May 6
      • Harmony V60 and overdrive with headphones
        PedroRodrigues Hi StratLover58, I would like to point out that my reply reflects your question posted above "Can I use an overdrive or distortion pedal with my Harmony V60 if I use headphones?" and therefore my reply was "regarding your question about the Harmony V60 with headphones, please consider that any signal present on the Master will also be available on the Headphones." If your question was to "determine if an overdriven or distortion input signal will damage the circuitry." I would suggest you to be more concise and objective with you question to avoid any misinterpretations next time and to allow us to be more effective in our response.
        Regarding your question "determine if an overdriven or distortion input signal will damage the circuitry."
        Please consider that using an Overdriven or Distortion Input Signal on an Acoustic Amplifier such as the Harmony V60 should not cause any damages but will consequently make your sound different that you might expect.
        It is important to understand that this is not a conventional usage for the Harmony V60 and therefore any issues on resulting from this configuration will be consider as misuse and therefore not covered by our Warranty Policy when it comes to any assistance request.
        For last please ponder that the Input impedance on the Harmony V60 is the following:
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  • New
    TheoWhitley
    Contributor - Level 2
    2022-05-05

    Hello Music Tribe,

    I am the proud owner of a play acoustic and a VL3X both of which have been awesome.  I can say with certainty that they have shifted the way I approach live music. I have put thousands of hours and hundreds of gigs on each unit.  Now after roughly 5 years I am having issues with both of them.  

    Play Acoustic-Scroll knob is broken, AC adapter port is wiggley, occasionally glitches out

    VL3X-Large Scrool Wheel broken, Machine glithes out especially when I use the looper function (I have replaced the AC adapter per advice given to me from a rep and it definitely helped for a while but the problems came back)

    I have already spoken to PanurgyOEM in New York, my closest service center, just wanted to make sure im doing the right thing before I shell out $65 per unit to diagnose.  My goal is to get them both back to perfect working order so I can continue to use them.  Hoping the repairs dont cost more than a brand new unit.

     

    -T

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    • TheoWhitley
      WilliamR Unfortunately, We are unable to diagnose or give a quote on what it would cost to fix hardware issues. Panurgy would have to give you a diagnosis and a quote for this.
      • May 5
  • New
    BernardHewitt
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2022-05-03

    Output dropped by~ 80% (both mic & guitar which have correct level inputs) any idears?...thx

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    • BernardHewitt
      PedroRodrigues Hi BernardHewitt, thank you for your post, to attempt to resolve that issue please follow the link below to access the guide and the tools to resolve this issue https://wsi.li/dl/eeR59vetdntXkkKTi/ If this does not resolve the issue reported please select support on the top of this page to request service for your VL3X. Thank you
      • May 4
    • BernardHewitt
      BernardHewitt

      Hi, have loaded successfully, but has not solved...have contacted service...thank you ...bernard

      • May 4
    • BernardHewitt
      BernardHewitt

      FYI...solved with manufactures reset ..load updates & restore backed up parameter settings...BUT have a spare Voicelive 3 & purchased a V3 extreme

      • May 6
    • BernardHewitt
      BernardHewitt

      Anyone know where I can buy replacement mix knobs for V3?

      • May 6
  • New
    BrionBell
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-05-03

    I have an old model.  I need the vocal input POT.  A schematic or parts list would help, along with a source for the parts.

    Thanbk you in advance!

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