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  • Montxo
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-11-26

    Hello,

    I suppose that the audio in the unit goes to the PC via USB? or not?

    So can I record the audio comming via USB in my PC windows?

    THanks in advance.

    Montxo

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    • Montxo
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @Montxo,
      Yes indeed just connect your Touch 2 to your computer via USB and it should automatically detect, you don't have to install any additional drivers.  This Knowledge Base article will have the info pertaining to what to expect from the USB audio channels.  Cheers!

      • November 26, 2019
  • godsfingers
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-19

    Newbe here, I've been through the manual that gets real close to an answer but , alas, not there. How do you "see" what's in a preset? Right now there's 10 presets with the same name. How do I know what's in a preset and whether I want it taking space or is it pass the folder now and read it later? Thanks, Dan

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    • godsfingers
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @godsfingers,
      VoiceSupport 2 does not have any preset editing capabilities, so you can't use it to view the contents of presets.  There is the tagging system in VoiceSupport 2 which you might find helpful to tag effects, but really you'll have to view the presets on the hardware device itself.  Cheers!

      • November 22, 2019
    • godsfingers
      godsfingers

      So the VS2 is essentially a post and retrieve filing system, then. Ok, got it. It's less complex than the BB drum presets, given everything shows up externally. So the editing you would, then, do on the unit, save, pull it off and rename it?

      • November 22, 2019
  • AlMorello
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-25

    I'm using Onsong ipad App with my VL3X plugged into the USB port. When I play a track from the Onsong App, the iPad's volume up/down buttons don't work. Only way I can turn the music up/down is through the VL3X mixer (4 small knobs on face). This isn't very convenient as I have to bend down to twist the knobs. Is there any way to affect the volume with the iPad volume buttons or are they bypassed since I'm plugging into the VL3X via USB?

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    • AlMorello
      Andreas-Joseph

      I do not use or know much about On song, yet with my VL3XI use Aux port for the input if I need a backing track.or  we can record a Backing track with each preset- I personally am looking for someone who has insight to eliminate VL3X "settings" instability-especially during a live performance...totally annoying

      • November 25, 2019
  • BeePee
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-11-25

    I'm still happily using my original Voicelive Touch for gigs and home recording. I link it up via USB to an iPad to get the benefits of the excellent Loopy app, superior in many respects to the looper in the VLT. A question, if anyone's listening: Loopy gets the signal from the VLT fine and returns it without noticeable latency. However it seems only the main VLT signal is being recorded in Loopy via USB, not extras like harmonies etc. I can get them if I take an analogue signal from the main or headphone VLT outputs into the iPad via an iRig headphone input, but I want to retain the clean USB input. Any idea why only part of the signal (pre processing, without harmonies etc) is coming in via USB? Thanks, BeePee

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  • LucDeBacker
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-11-20

    Hi all,

    Pretty new to this board and if I'm posting something wrong I'm sorry for that.

    So we are having the TC Helicon VoiceLive 3 Extreme and love the box.
    We we have a gig (most of the times smalller ones) we connect our Turbosound IQ10's to it.

    My wife, the singer, and a mate of mine, the guitarist, complain lately of not hearing themselves enough when we are playing at a gig where they for sure are behind the IQ's. When the guitarist can't join us we packed the VLX with backing tracks.

    So we got ourselves the TurboSound TFX122M-AN floor monitor.

    The main reason is the ultra net possibilities these IQ's and monitor has as I'm running also a X32 Core and the big boy X32 together with the S32 when playing with the complete band.

     

    Now for our issue. The only way connecting the monitor is by using the headphone out. I got myself a cable that supposedly turn the 3,5 stereo jack into the male XLR mono. This is for some reason giving a kreepy end result where it looks like the two channels are canceling each other out now leaving only the differences coming out of the monitor.

    What would your guys advice be? I can't imagine someone did not face the same problem. Is there maybe some kind of box available with 2x XLR in for the separated  Left and Right, having a pass through XLR out Left and Right and also a XLR out having the signals correctly merged into mono?

     

    All advice is highly appreciated

     

     

    Regrads from my wife

     

    and me

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    • LucDeBacker
      LucDeBacker

      A bit weird to reply to myself but I think I have found the best solution.


      I'm going to connect the (MONO) left towards a Klark Teknik PRO SPLITTER 5 DS 50 passieve splitter and from there I can split it to the floor monitor and directly to the IQ


      Should be good. The order is out and tomorrow it will be delivered.
      I'll post another reply with my findings.


       


      Regards, Luc

      • November 21, 2019
    • LucDeBacker
      TCH-Aaron

      Hi LucDeBacker,


       


      That sounds like a great setup! I believe the TRS to Mono XLR cable is likely the issue.

      To connect to a PA or monitor using the headphone out you will need either:

      1) Stereo TRS 3.5mm (1/8") to Dual Mono 6.5mm (1/4") cable 


      2) Stereo TRS 3.5mm to Dual XLR-Male cable


       


      By keeping the signal stereo you won't run into the cancellation you're experiencing. You can use either the left, right, or both outputs to connect to the wedge as I believe the Turbosound has two inputs. 


       


      The most flexible and recallable setup would be to run the VL3's main outputs AND the headphone outputs to the X-32 - so four channels - then send only what you need back to the wedge using one of the X-32's mix buses. Food for thought. I hope this helps!


       


      Cheers,


       


      Aaron

      • November 21, 2019
    • LucDeBacker
      LucDeBacker

      Hi Aaron,


      Thanks for the feedback.


      Of course using the X32 would mean no issues at all anymore but this was not the intention for playing a small gig (sometimes even a family room performance). In such a case I only bring the VLX3, 1 or 2 IQ10's and from now on the Floor monitor as well.


      By the way this Turbosound Floor monitor has only 1 input (well, 1 ultranet and 1 XLR).


      While I think the box will help me out I missed 1 thing. The left output will be the mono output when not using the Right channel output as well. Regardless the monitor will be the left channel only in a two speaker setup it will be much better than canceling out


      I just got confirmation the box is coming tonight, I'll report back tomorrrow.


       


      Luc

      • November 21, 2019
    • LucDeBacker
      TCH-Aaron

      Nice! If you're not bringing the X-32 that's a great way to do it. I ran an identical setup for years when playing solo shows. I'd use one or two main speakers running straight off the VL3 main outputs and either a wedge or IEM's fed by the headphone output.


       


      If you do end up wanting to keep things stereo in the mains and have separate control of the wedge using the VL3 as the "mixer", a cable such as the Digiflex HIN-1K-2XM-15 would be all you'd need.


       


      Cheers!





      • November 22, 2019
  • godsfingers
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-19

    Hi second newbe question. Is there a way to get my voice out of the wet feed? I want to be able to set up 3rd track descants on songs or be able to create punch tracks. Any help appreciated. Thanks, Dan

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    • godsfingers
      godsfingers

      oops, forgot to include this question is for the Live Harmony G XT

      • November 19, 2019
    • godsfingers
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @godsfingers,
      Are you trying to separate your wet and dry vocals?  If so, check out this article in our Knowledge Base, it has the info you're after.  Cheers!

      • November 21, 2019
    • godsfingers
      godsfingers

      Ya, I've done that and all it is is the difference between a stero and mono feed. The main vocal stays isolated on the dry track but is still in the stereo track. So when the harmonies drop the main vocal is on that track still. The intention is to do the panning on the workstation. When I cut the third track with descants or echos the main vocal included in the echos or descants will be a distraction. I suspect I can't get away from that, yes. Otherwise, I'm thus far pleased with the quality. I'm simplying and replacing my ancient Digitech Studio Vocalist.

      • November 21, 2019
    • godsfingers
      TCH-Spencer

      Hi again @godsfingers,
      Ah see what you mean...  The left XLR does indeed only carry the harmony voices, but only if they're turned on, and when the harmony voices are disabled the lead voice is present again on that channel.  I can see your problem now if you're applying echos and whatnot to this channel... The only thing I can think of would be to put some kind of XLR mute pedal (like this) between Harmony G-XT's left XLR output and your workstation, then leave the harmonies always on in the G-XT and toggle them in and out with the mute pedal.  Kind of janky to have to use extra hardware, but it's the only solution I can think of.

      • November 22, 2019
  • PaulSijben
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-21

    Looking at Sam Perry's equipment video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfJ14MsMO0U) he is using a guitar tuner to actually make sure his voice is in tune before starting his loops. This seems like a great idea.

    I have both the voicelive 2 and the  touch 2, both have a tuner, but on the guitar channel. How would it be possible to have mute & tuner mode on the voicelives?

     

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    • PaulSijben
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @PaulSijben,
      Sorry to say that the tuners in both those products are exclusive to the guitar path - there's no way to get your voice into them unless you're physically plugging your mic into the guitar input.  They do both however have pitch correction in them, so you can use that to be sure you're in tune.  Cheers!

      • November 21, 2019
  • tcampjax
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-07-21

    Hello, 

    First post for me.  I have been having an issue with a certain chord configuration that causes the low harmony to sing FLAT.

    It only occurs with a specific note and specific chord.  Which I think is because the alogrhythm is reading the chord wrong.

    Heres the scoop,  when I play a BIG G, meaning I fret the B string on the 3rd fret,  the GXT sings flat when I sing the D note.  If I play normal G, B string open, it works just fine.   Is it hearing the two D's in octave and getting confusted about what the root of the chord is?   It would be great if it could be patched and I wasn't forced to remember to play G with the B included just to get a proper harmony.   BTW, I tested this with my Vocalist Live 2 and My Vocalist Live 5 and they sing the correct hamony every time. 

     

     

      

     

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    • tcampjax
      jkrantman

      No answer, but I'm having similar problem, often with the same chord.  Extreme 3.  Sometimes it gets it right, but is wrong more than 1/2 the time.

      • October 25, 2019
    • tcampjax
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @tcampjax,
      I can't say for sure, but to me it sounds like the B note (2nd fret on the A string) in your chord isn't cutting through enough, but doubling-down on another higher B (open B string) is enough to make the effect realize what chord you're playing.  I do know that our harmony algorithm puts a lot of emphasis on the root and third of chords being played, so if it can't hear the third (B note in this case) it gets confused real fast.  So playing a G chord will always require a B note somewhere in there to get the proper harmony, just in your case it sounds like the B note on your A string isn't cutting through enough for whatever reason.  There are a lot of potential reasons why: your guitar's output level, its pickups, guitar's tone/eq'ing, fingerstyle VS picked, full-chord VS slight arpeggiation, etc.


       


      "Big G":
      3 = G
      3 = D
      0 = G
      0 = D
      2 = B
      3 = G


       


      "Normal G":
      3 = G
      0 = B
      0 = G
      0 = D
      2 = B
      3 = G


       


      My only suggestion is to try to not mute that B note in the "Big G" chord and really let it ring out, or else you will unfortunately have to play double B's with a "Normal G" chord to be sure the algorithm is hearing the 3rd of your chord.

      • October 28, 2019
  • nimasan
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-11-12

    Hi there,

    I'm currently using TC Helicon's Harmony M with my midi keyboard.

    I need the presets/steps features that VoiceLive 3 is offering so I want to switch to that product.

    However, it is being advertised/promoted as a voice/guitar effects product and I'm not planning on using it with a guitar but with a midi keyboard instead.

    I want to sing, play some chords on my midi keyboard and I want VoiceLive 3 to be able to translate those keyboard chords into harmonies for example.

    Is this possible or will I have problems with it?

    Is VoiceLive 2 Touch better for me maybe? However, I noticed that VoiceLive 2 Touch does not have "steps" but only "presets". I don't want to have to create 5 presets for a single song. I want one single song-preset containing a bunch of steps inside (verse, chorus, bridge etc..)

    Thanks in advance for your help!

     

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    • nimasan
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @nimasan,
      VoiceLive 3 is advertised as a vocal and guitar processor because in addition to our suite of vocal effects it also has a bunch of guitar effects, but you can absolutely use it with a keyboard instead.  You can either use just the MIDI output from your keyboard to guide harmony voices, or use the audio output of your keyboard (if it has any) and apply the guitars effects to it, or even use a combination of the two.  So yeah what you're asking is totally possible, Gavin Castleton has a really good video on the topic here.


      As for VoiceLive Touch 2, it can work well with a keyboard as well but I wouldn't say it's better for you.  Like you've noted, the Touch 2 doesn't have the ability to create Steps so you'd be working with neighbouring presets instead.  The biggest benefit that Touch 2 has over VoiceLive 3 - aside from being mountable on a mic stand - is its 6-track looper, VoiceLive 3's looper only has 3 tracks.


      Hopefully that's helpful, let me know if you have any more questions.  Cheers!

      • November 14, 2019
  • bobpick68
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-07-18

    I am using the VL Play acoustic with electric guitar. here is what I have and was hoping someone could me find the best way to set it up. z

    VL Play Acoustic

    Line 6 Helix LT 

    Tube amp

    PA System

    I am also the lead singer of the band and want to be able to use the harmonies of the VLPA. I am thinking it would go like this.. guitar>helix>helix out>vlpa gtr in>left vlpa>PA>right vlpa>guitar amp.

    Does this sound like it would work? I would love to just go direct but at the moment the PA system in the band sucks for guitar modeling so the Helix is being used for FX only. 

    Thanks for any advice. 

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    • bobpick68
      TCH-Spencer

      Hey @bobpick68,
      Technically that setup you outlined works but you might find that the PlayAcoustic's harmony voices make weird note choices every now and then.  This is because the PlayAcoustic is expecting a clean/dry guitar input, so if you're adding guitar effects with your Helix before sending it to the PlayAcoustic, that can potentially screw up our harmony algorithm and cause it to choose "wrong" notes.  If you're finding this to be an issue, you should try switching the chain so the PlayAcoustic is first then run the right guitar output into the Helix and then your amp.  Cheers!

      • November 14, 2019
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