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  • jchavis2020
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-09-19

    What's going on with the M32-edit app?  For about two months now it just won't stay connected and often won't reconnect.

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      Paul_Vannatto Evidently you have a network issue. Are you using ethernet or wifi to connect your PC to the router? Check the ethernet cable between the M32 and router. It may need to be replaced.
      • September 19, 2020
      • App is disconnecting and will not reconnect.
        jchavis2020 Thanks Paul. I wasn't a bad cable. I just needed to prioritize the connecting devices to router.
        • October 26, 2020
      • App is disconnecting and will not reconnect.
        Paul_Vannatto Glad to hear you figured it out, James
        • October 26, 2020
  • knaepp
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-09-16

    To whom it may concern,

    sorry for the crossposting. I believe that my first posting has not been recognized. Hopefully this is a better place to post this question.

    we use a special configuration on our X32 (actual firmware installed) connected to two stageboxes (DL16, actual firmware installed). We use up to four scenes to precontrol our mixer. We store special settings as snippets (eg. using a delay for the leadvocal only in a special part of a song).

    We combine scenes and snippets as cues for gigs and use the cues to export cues, scenes and snippets together assigning a releasenumber to test different settings.

    Each time when we export the cues we get one shw-file for the cue, five .scn files for the scenes and as many .snp files for the snippets as we created snippets. Works like expect. But each time we will import the complete cue into X/M32 edit software only N-1 snippets will be imported to the software. For example if we have twelve snippet files in our environment only 11 will be imported. Each time the last on will be missed out.

    I tested this behaviour using the actual Linux 64 bit Version, the Version for macOs and for Windows. All show the same behaviour: the last snippet will not be loaded.

    Is there is any development on X/M32 edit software? Is there a chance to get this fixed? I just worked arround this issue by adding one additional snippet to the end of the list which is not needed. But this is not a real solution for me (if I once forget to implement the last snippet I have to reimport this missing snippet).


    Best regards and thanks in advance


    Matthias

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    • knaepp
      john0121 Hi Knaepp, I responded to your first post too. I'll report this to the dev team to see if it can be replicated and resolved.
      • September 16, 2020
    • knaepp
      knaepp Hi John, thank you for your response, I missunderstood your hint in the other posting. I thought it was directed to an other user asking a question in reply of mine. So please keep me informed about this issue. If you need any information or have additional questions, do not hesitate to ask.
      • September 16, 2020
    • knaepp
      DaveMorrison Which firmware version are you using? This reminds me of a bug that was in 4.0 or 4.0.1 (I can't remember which)
      • September 16, 2020
    • knaepp
      knaepp We use the current firmware (which is 4.02). But this issue happens in offline mode/editing as well. Because of this I think this is a software issue in X32 edit and M32 edit. I have not checked whether this problem occurs on the console as well. I will check tonight during our rehearsal...
      • September 16, 2020
    • knaepp
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Mattias, the snippet index bug has already been fixed and will be correct in the next X32-Edit and M32-Edit release (coming soon).
      • September 16, 2020
  • jstanford
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-09-10

    I can't seem to download the x32 4.0 firmware off the website. Any advice? 

     

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    • jstanford
      DaveMorrison Get 4.0.2. If the link is down, you can use any model of X32 for the firmware. Look in the Rack, Compact, Producer, and Core section if you can't find it. I would leave you a link, but this new website doesn't seem to want me to do so. If you still can't find it, let us know and we'll get you the firmware.
      • September 10, 2020
      • x32 Download
        jstanford Hi Dave, I tried a couple different models still no luck! Still the SSL handshake error
        • September 10, 2020
    • jstanford
      DaveMorrison Even the Midas site has the same problem. It's too bad because it's the same firmware. Try this: Straight off my mixer's flash drive. https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yhc7te7dkqt5zr6/AADR0NKBG5F4Uf2isTbqupnoa?dl=0
      • September 10, 2020
    • jstanford
      DavidKnighton Hello All,
      I've been alerted a short time ago that this issue has been resolved. Please check once more. The downloads should all be working as expected now.
      • September 10, 2020
  • Paul_Vannatto
    Volunteer Moderator
    2020-09-08

    Hi everyone,

    I have just released a Wing version (beta 0.85) of the popular Live Toolbox and have upgraded a number of other apps accordingly (for Windows, Mac, linux, Raspberry Pi). All Live Toolboxes now includes a chat tool (from MX Terminal). Sysex OSC Generator can now generate Wing version of the midi sysex string.

    Please note that the Mac package (dmg) includes both 32 and 64 bit apps.

    Here is a complete list of updates

    • Wing Live Toolbox (0.85) https://sourceforge.net/projects/wing-live-toolbox/
    • X32 Live Toolbox (1.31) https://sourceforge.net/projects/x32livetoolbox/
    • X-Air Live Toolbox (1.31) https://sourceforge.net/projects/xairlivetoolbox/
    • MX Terminal (1.06) https://sourceforge.net/projects/mx-terminal/
    • LT_Command (1.06) https://sourceforge.net/projects/lt-command/
    • Sysex OSC Generator (1.10) https://sourceforge.net/projects/sysexoscgen/
    • Wing XM32 To Wing Converter (1.00) https://sourceforge.net/projects/xm32-to-wing-converter/
    • Wing Snipshot Toolbox (1.00) https://sourceforge.net/projects/wing-snipshot-toolbox/

    If you find any bugs or have suggestions, please let me know.

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  • lpagross
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-31

    Has anyone found a way to insert more than one effect on the Main LR bus in X32 Edit? For example I'd like to place a graphic EQ, followed by an exciter, but I can't figure out how to route the outputs of the graphic to the inputs of the exciter, or am I thinking about this wrong?

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    • lpagross
      RexBeckett You cannot insert two FX into one bus. What you can do it to send (post fader) the LR bus to a linked pair of Matrix buses and insert one FX into Main LR and the other into the Matrix buses. Then set the output routing to use the Matrix bus pair instead of Main LR.
      • August 31, 2020
      • 2 + insert effects on Main LR bus
        lpagross That's clever, but how do I route the LR bus? At the moment I've got the LR bus coming out of Matrix 7&8 of an X32 Rack, does this mean routing the LR bus to Matrix Sends 1-6 & losing matrix outs 7&8? That would be painful as I'm using the Aux outs & 6 of the Matrix outs to send to 6 stereo headphones.
        • August 31, 2020
      • 2 + insert effects on Main LR bus
        RexBeckett I think you may be confusing Matrix buses with routing matrices. You can setup a send to the six Matrix buses on the Main LR Sends tab - as shown below. Then you can select the Matrix pair for outputs 7 & 8 on Routing -> Out 1-16 - as below.

        Matrix buses are fed from Mixbuses or the Main LR/C buses (not channels) and allow for additional processing. They are useful for inserting crossover filters for sub/top speakers, for feeding additional speakers with different EQ/delays or other special processing. Matrix buses have the same dynamics, EQ and insert capabilities as Mixbuses but can only be sent to outputs.
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        • August 31, 2020
      • 2 + insert effects on Main LR bus
        lpagross That's great, yes that's exactly what I was doing, I think the problem may have been exacerbated because they are called the same thing. That's perfect thanks.
        • September 2, 2020
  • lpagross
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-29

    I'm using the X32 Edit software to control my X32 Rack & there's a question I'd like to ask. I understand that the Mix Bus can be tapped after the input, before the EQ, after the EQ, before the fader & after the fader but what does Sub Group mean on the Sends tab?

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    • lpagross
      Paul_Vannatto Subgroup is basically post fader with unity (0 db) fader levels. It emulates the analog console subgroups.
      • August 29, 2020
    • lpagross
      CraigFowler The other key difference between the post-fader vs subgroup setting is that if using the subgroup tap, (by default, assuming the subgroup is stereo,) the ch>subgroup pan will follow the ch>LR pan. If instead you choose post-fader, you can specify a different pan for ch>bus vs ch>LR.
      • August 29, 2020
    • lpagross
      lpagross How can you set up a subgroup master fader in X32 Edit 4.1?
      • August 29, 2020
    • lpagross
      CraigFowler Bus\Mtx layer button on the LHS of the app, you'll get your faders. Alternatively, select the relevant bus using the buttons on the LHS of the app, and the master fader changes to the fader for that bus.
      • August 30, 2020
      • X32 Edit software mix bus taps
        lpagross So a subgroup master is the same as a mix bus master?
        • August 30, 2020
    • lpagross
      CraigFowler Yes. The console has 16 mixbuses (+ mainLR, M\C, mtxs, and solo.) The 16 buses can be configured (in pairs) as pre-fade, post fade, or subgroup, or some combination.
      • August 30, 2020
      • X32 Edit software mix bus taps
        lpagross So the input tap to the mix bus is the output of the mix bus… I'm sorry, I'm not following.
        • August 30, 2020
  • lpagross
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-26

    What does the "Changes affect selected Channel" vs "Changes affect all Channels" do in the Sends tab? Also, above this I think you can choose where to tap the bus from, but this isn't updated on the Routing tab (as far as I can see). Am I right?

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    • lpagross
      RexBeckett When Changes affect all Channels is on, if you change the signal tap for a bus send it will be changed for all channels (1-32 + Aux 1-6 + FX Returns 1-4). Otherwise the change only affects the selected channel.The signal taps on the Sends tab are the points within the channel processing for the send to the bus. The signal taps shown in the routing tables are for outputs from the bus or channel.
      • August 26, 2020
      • X32 Edit Sends tab
        lpagross Aha, that's great. I confirmed the "Change affect all Channels" by switching it on, changing the vocals to Post EQ & then jumping to another channel. I expected it to be all Mix Bus Channels, it's the channels of the desk :-)
        • August 26, 2020
      • X32 Edit Sends tab
        lpagross I confirmed the signal taps being to the bus by listening to the output from a bus (rather than the main output or the control room output) and changing the output to that bus from pre-fader to post-fader then moving the Main LR bus fader. It works as expected, thanks so much.
        • August 26, 2020
    • lpagross
      lpagross It's a shame that the Sends tab doesn't have an extra "mute" button for each mix bus so that you could route to headphones & not mind about the Mute button on the Main LR bus. It still affects the mix buses :-(
      • August 26, 2020
    • lpagross
      RexBeckett I don't understand how you want the mutes to work. You can mute each Mixbus separately - although not on the Sends tab.
      • August 26, 2020
      • X32 Edit Sends tab
        lpagross When I mute a channel in the Main LR bus it is muted in the Mix bus (which I'm using to feed IEMs for each musician), which isn't how I'm used to working. If I have chosen pre-fade for a headphone feed & I then mute the channel on the Main LR bus (for a few seconds say, to focus on something else) I don't expect it to have any effect on the headphone feed. Perhaps the sends tab could adopt the colour scheme of the routing tab if space is an issue?
        • August 26, 2020
      • X32 Edit Sends tab
        RexBeckett OK, I understand. Yes it would be nice if the channel mute behavior was configurable to suit personal preferences. As it is, it is better to take channels out of the Main mix by pulling down the fader. If you need to mute some channels on a regular basis, you could assign them to a DCA group and mute that.
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        • August 26, 2020
    • lpagross
      GaryHiggins There is a work around for this. Make sure the DCA groups checkbox is NOT checked on the setup/mixer/mute system page. Then if an input ch belongs to a DCA group and the DCA is muted, ONLY the sends to mains are muted NOT the bus sends. This is the setting to use to allow monitors to remain active while FOH ch's remain muted. Make a DCA group that includes all your desired main ch's and use that DCA mute to mute/unmute the mains, the buses will not get muted. If the DCA groups box is checked off, it acts like a master mute for DCA's and will mute the participating ch's everywhere.
      • August 26, 2020
    • lpagross
      lpagross The DCA mutes are a useful work around, thanks.
      • August 26, 2020
  • lpagross
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-21

    When I'm in the EQ page I often have the Real Time Analyser turned on. Whenever I choose the LR Bus it flips to display that analysis in the EQ page, but when I choose a channel it continues to display the LR Bus analysis until I change something in the channel, then the RTA displays correctly. I say correctly, but maybe I'm missing something, is there some advantage to displaying the LR Bus analysis? This is in X32 Edit 4.1, not on the front panel of the X32 Rack.

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    • lpagross
      GaryHiggins Maybe it's the rta settings? When connected to your mixer, hit utility/rta. Not totally sure what you are wanting but maybe something in there (esp with rta source) explains it or changes it to what you want?
      • August 21, 2020
      • X32 Edit 4.1 RTA
        lpagross That was it, thanks. I had Main selected as the RTA Source, changing that to Selected Channel displays whatever channel I select as the RTA source, in fact as it says on the page. Great piece of software.
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        • August 21, 2020
  • lpagross
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-18

    I've just downloaded FW4.0.2 & X32-Edit 4.1, it takes a lot longer to transfer parameters to or from the mixer or PC. I thought it was only the first time it might take a while, but I've tried synchronising several times (from the Mixer to the PC & from the PC to the Mixer) & it takes a couple of minutes. This used to be done in about 15 seconds on the older software & firmware.

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    • lpagross
      lpagross I'm using a MacBook Pro.
      • August 18, 2020
    • lpagross
      RexBeckett This can be caused by issues with the network connection - particularly Wifi links. Note that the firmware upgrade process resets some global settings on the console to default values. Check that the network settings are correct for your configuration.
      • August 18, 2020
      • Very slow transferring parameters
        lpagross I've got no idea where to start. The settings in the setup page look ok & the same on the X32 Rack
        • August 18, 2020
      • Very slow transferring parameters
        RexBeckett How is the PC connected to the console? Do you have a router or switch in the network? Is the X32 set for DHCP or a fixed IP address? BTW: I find it safer to leave the Sync Drection set as Mixer -> PC. It can help to prevent inadvertant loss of console settings when starting X32 Edit.
        • August 18, 2020
    • lpagross
      GaryHiggins I've noticed that this takes a bit longer than it used to as well BUT for me it's more like 5-6 seconds versus 10-12 seconds. Something else is afoot there, 2 minutes is way too long and it's not firmware or Edit version causing it imo.
      • August 18, 2020
      • Very slow transferring parameters
        lpagross This only started happening when I installed the new X32-Edit software & the X-32 Rack Firmware. Unless there's been a sneaky coincidence.
        • August 18, 2020
      • Very slow transferring parameters
        GaryHiggins Maybe try using DHCP on the X32? Or re enter your static ip and subnet again since you have updated the firmware.
        • August 18, 2020
      • Very slow transferring parameters
        RexBeckett I agree with Gary (almost always). Syncing the PC to the console takes a few seconds over wired or 5GHz Wifi connections. Any longer and there is probably some issue with the network. There can be issues if the control PC has more than one active network connection - particularly if they have the same IP subnet.
        • August 18, 2020
      • Very slow transferring parameters
        lpagross OK, I restarted my router & that seems to have fixed everything, sorry for the messages :-0
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        • August 18, 2020
      • Very slow transferring parameters
        RexBeckett I'm happy to hear that it is working properly now. Don't worry about the messages, they may help someone else.
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        • August 18, 2020
  • lpagross
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-17

    When I want to pan in IEMs fed by mix buses the same as the main LR bus I choose LR PAN on each bus that I want this for on the sends tab, is that correct? Also, what does the power button do to the left of that, why would I want it?

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    • lpagross
      RexBeckett That is correct. The pan controls on a channel's Sends tab set how the channel is sent to a linked pair of Mixbuses. The button with the power symbol is an enable (opposite of mute) for that channel send. It can be useful to temporarily mute a channel send to a monitor bus without disturbing the send fader setting.
      • August 17, 2020
      • Panning buses
        lpagross That's great, thanks. Why does the main overview show bus sends 3-10 panned in the centre while the channel view & the sends view show the vocal panned +50, to the right? Is it just a problem with the overview showing everything or am I missing something?
        • August 17, 2020
      • Panning buses
        RexBeckett On my copy of X32 Edit V4.1, the pan setting for channel sends to stereo buses shows the same value on Mixer, Channel and Sends tabs. I don't know why yours would behave differently.
        • August 17, 2020
      • Panning buses
        lpagross I think I've found the answer (for me). When I choose LR PAN on the Sends tab the Channel tab shows the buses panned as they are in the LR panning of the channel. However, the Mixer tab still shows the panning that I've set up, but it doesn't affect what I hear. If I go back to the Sends tab and deselect LR PAN then the panning jumps to the setting in the Mixer tab. It may be a fault in the software (X-Edit 4.0.3 Mac OS X).
        • August 18, 2020
      • Panning buses
        lpagross It's been resolved in X32-Edit 4.1 :-)
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        • August 18, 2020
      • Panning buses
        RexBeckett The LR Pan button, when on, copies the channel to bus panning from the channel to Main LR setting. On X32 Edit V4.1 (Windows) this is reflected correctly on all the tabs. It could be a bug in the macOS version.

        Edit: I see you found the cause of the problem. Thanks for the update.
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        • August 18, 2020
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