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  • Michael15916
    Contributor - Level 2
    2014-05-04

    When moving around presets within the Voice Support it would be useful to have the "insert" option in addition to "move, copy, swap, add" meaning that if I move a preset in a specific position it will shift right all the other presets making space for the one I want to position.

    Anyone else think this could be useful?
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    • Michael15916
      CraigFraser
      Hi Michael,



      Ah that's a good idea!



      I'll bring it up with the VoiceSupport dev, since it could be something we'd look at in an update to that product.



      Thanks



      -Craig
      • May 5, 2014
  • deproduction
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-04-25

    have the TC Helicon Harmony G XT and it works great with my guitar, but I often want to mic my piano through it and have my vocal harmonies follow the chords I'm playing on piano, which the TCH GXT doesn't seem to recognize. There are many vocal processors I can find which recognize midi keyboard or guitar, but none with acoustic piano. Is there another vocal processor you know of which recognizes accoustic piano chords as well?

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  • BrianLee863484
    Contributor - Level 2
    2017-03-06
    I've been through all the presets in VoiceSupport 2 trying to find a Jazzy guitar sound. There are a couple of Sinatra type presets but they're not that Jazzy sounding. Does anyone have any suggestions how or how to get that Jazz sound? I'm using an electric guitar which has a good pups suitable for this tone. Also would be great to get a Gypsy Jazz sound from an acoustic also.

    Cheers

    Brian
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    • BrianLee863484
      musicmadman


      Hello , what have you come up with ?



      I just received my VL3X Tuesday



      Thanks:



      HR



      • March 23, 2017
    • BrianLee863484
      BrianLee863484 Preset 132 Jazz Verb is really good for that mellow Jazz sound (depending what guitar and pups you have).
      • March 24, 2017
  • gladken
    Contributor - Level 2
    2012-03-09
    guys,

    How do I change channels on a blackstar amplifier with the g system via midi program changes? (dirty to clean channels etc.) The manual has a rough idea but I am not that impressed with the instructions in the manual and they are hard to follow. Thanks for the help.

    -Jeff
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    • gladken
      Laird_Williams

      gladken wrote:

      guys,



      How do I change channels on a blackstar amplifier with the g system via midi program changes? (dirty to clean channels etc.) The manual has a rough idea but I am not that impressed with the instructions in the manual and they are hard to follow. Thanks for the help.



      -Jeff


      Grab the white paper - in a stickie at the top of the G-System section.



      Sections 3.1 and 3.2 cover MIDI with the G in depth.
      • March 9, 2012
    • gladken
      Colinboy

      Laird_Williams wrote:



      gladken wrote:

      guys,



      How do I change channels on a blackstar amplifier with the g system via midi program changes? (dirty to clean channels etc.) The manual has a rough idea but I am not that impressed with the instructions in the manual and they are hard to follow. Thanks for the help.



      -Jeff


      Grab the white paper - in a stickie at the top of the G-System section.



      Sections 3.1 and 3.2 cover MIDI with the G in depth.






      And also read the blackstar manual midi section. Ive got the series one 200 head and setting up the midi was very easy.
      • March 9, 2012
  • Poulet
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-06-01

    Hello from France,

    II want to plug an external 2x12 external cabinet to my Bugera v22 combo guitar amp. What impedance (backside selector)?

     

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  • NicolasBlaisot
    Contributor - Level 1
    2017-03-14
    Hello,

    When long pressing the harmony switch I get to the key/scale menu, and for some obscure reason I cannot switch to a minor key. I get only the possibility to switch between maj1 / maj2 / maj3.

    Then sometimes, it's stuck on minor keys, for no reason.

    I'm completely lost !

    Is that a bug of the voicelive 3, or am I missing something ?

    EDIT--- when switching back to the previous firmware there is no problem. It's clearly a bug in the latest 2.1.01 build 355 firmware.

    New firmware to correct the bug, please !!!!
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    • NicolasBlaisot
      TCH-Spencer Hey Nick,

      I've never had this issue with build 355, so I'm thinking it might be an issue with your settings. If you go into the Setup menu, and tab over to System, what is your "Global Key/Scale" parameter set to? It sounds like you might have this set to On when you want it Off.
      • April 10, 2017
    • NicolasBlaisot
      guitarhacker Hey If anyone has a moment,



      is there a way to turn off all the long hold down behaviours.

      I'm scared i might encounter one in the middle of a show



      Thanks heaps





      Nicolas Blaisot;118948 wrote:

      Hello,



      When long pressing the harmony switch I get to the key/scale menu, and for some obscure reason I cannot switch to a minor key. I get only the possibility to switch between maj1 / maj2 / maj3.



      Then sometimes, it's stuck on minor keys, for no reason.



      I'm completely lost !



      Is that a bug of the voicelive 3, or am I missing something ?



      EDIT--- when switching back to the previous firmware there is no problem. It's clearly a bug in the latest 2.1.01 build 355 firmware.



      New firmware to correct the bug, please !!!!
      • April 10, 2017
    • NicolasBlaisot
      DerekShort I am having this same problem and i tried switching "Global Key/Scale" on and off but it makes no difference. Has anyone come up with a solution to this yet ?



      Thanks





      Spencer Larsen;121416 wrote:

      Hey Nick,

      I've never had this issue with build 355, so I'm thinking it might be an issue with your settings. If you go into the Setup menu, and tab over to System, what is your "Global Key/Scale" parameter set to? It sounds like you might have this set to On when you want it Off.
      • April 24, 2017
    • NicolasBlaisot
      CesareMartignon

      Spencer Larsen;121416 wrote:

      Hey Nick,

      I've never had this issue with build 355, so I'm thinking it might be an issue with your settings. If you go into the Setup menu, and tab over to System, what is your "Global Key/Scale" parameter set to? It sounds like you might have this set to On when you want it Off.




      It happens to me when I have the guitar connected. The only way to reset is unplugging the guitar and turning off the device. When you turn on it works fine. I understand that it is a big problem: for me it happens whit guitar connected and by the way 'listening' your voice. My firmware is 1,5.



      Greetings.



      Cesare
      • April 26, 2017
    • NicolasBlaisot
  • tseegert
    Contributor - Level 2
    2015-10-21
    Hi all, well met! Some basic history before I ask my question- I used a Vetta II for years until last week when I decided to come back to tube amps. The Vetta made life pretty easy with regards to effects and switching- my choice to go with the G System was a hopeful continuation of that user-friendliness.

    I chose this unit for two primary reasons- the pristine effects and the amp switching capability (the price tag for the quality did not hurt either).

    So here goes- I do not (and likely never will) use the 4 cable method. I run an OD pedal in front of my amp and that is where it shall stay (its a personal preference... I like to drive the front end) That is the only stomp box that I will likely ever employ, so while the loop on the G is pretty neat, it will go unused.

    I am currently running from my effects loop send on my amp, to the guitar input on the G. From the left mono out of the G, into the return on my amp. Problem is, when I switch my effects loop on, my overall signal drops by a pretty substantial amount- I couldnt tell the difference between 5 and 10 db if it slapped me in the face, but I imagine if I had to it would be in that neighborhood. With my configuration, might one of you wizards be able to advise which level I should adjust, and to what parameter to bring this unit into unity gain? I imagine there is a way to match exactly the level of the amp when bypassing the loop? Also, I am using a Peavey 6505+, there are no adjustments for the level of the loop on the amp.

    The only other question I really have is, how do I create a new patch on the user preset banks? Every time I bank up up to the user banks and hit
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    • tseegert
      elvis Hi! I strongly recommend you read the white paper. It will help you to understand the GS better and that will help you to better assess how you might use it.



      I do recommend that you not hook it up the way you are doing now. The GS is actually two processors: a processor that sits between the guitar and amplifier and a processor that sits in the amp's FX loop. If you truly don't want anything between your guitar and amp other than the one stomp box, you should connect only the back-end processor in the amp's loop.



      The front-end processor sits between the GS input and INSERT SEND. That processor includes a compressor, the filter block and the loops. It includes an input gain control and loop level controls. This block is designed for instrument-level signals, not loop-level signals. Further, these effects are best used before the amp, rather than in the amp loop. The compressor in particular is likely to add lots of noise in the FX loop. If you are not using any of these effects, it is best not to connect them at all. Steve Vai, among others, bypassed the front end processor when he used a GS.



      The back-end processor sits in between the GS INSERT RETURN and Output. Just connect that in your amp's effects loop. The signal path is unity gain EXCEPT for Boost. If you use boost, it works by reducing the signal by the amount you specify in the global BOOST MAX, and then restores as much signal as you specify in the preset BOOST LEVEL. You can compensate for the loss in signal by turning up the amp's master volume or channels volumes, OR you can disable boost by setting BOOST MAX to 0dB and locking Boost off.



      Definitely read the white paper.
      • October 21, 2015
    • tseegert
      tseegert Thank you Elvis, I will certainly read the white paper- I appreciate your input. I basically bought an entirely new rig and have not had time to sufficiently work with the GS due to receiving other defective equipment... makes it hard to assess whether something is right for you if you cant play with it. So my biggest concern was whether I could use it (maybe while not completely taking advantage of everything the G has to offer, but at very least what I originally wanted it to do) because the return policy will become a factor in the very near future. I will read though, and again, appreciate your advice!



      Thanks,



      Troy
      • October 21, 2015
    • tseegert
      OhG Best advice I can give you is to read the white paper as Elvis mentioned. It can be confusing (the G-System is not plug-and-play). I've read the white paper a few times just to make sure I remember it all.



      When I bought my first G-System, I was in a position similar to yours. I bought it, and wanted to just get it up and running ASAP and felt like I had to decide whether or not I liked it before the return period expired. I ended up returning it because I wasn't able to get it running the way I wanted to within a day or so.



      Almost two years ago, I decided to buy it again and give it a more legit try. I bought it used off of eBay this time. I actually did that intentionally so that I wouldn't even be ABLE to return it, and this would force me to devote the proper amount of time to set up the G-System. With the white paper, and the help of this forum, I got it set up correctly and it has been without a doubt the best piece of music gear I've purchased in 20+ years.



      It does take some time to get it dialed in correctly. I've had mine almost two years now, and even though it sounds amazing, I'm still always trying to tweak things to make it even better. But I'd never consider getting rid of it.



      If you put in the time to getting it set up right (which can be done in less than a week, or even faster depending on your schedule), you will NOT regret it.
      • October 21, 2015
    • tseegert
      tseegert Thanks OhG. That is truly reassuring. I will be reading the white paper when I get home from work this evening for sure.
      • October 21, 2015
    • tseegert
      Laird_Williams

      tseegert wrote:

      Hi all, well met! Some basic history before I ask my question- I used a Vetta II for years until last week when I decided to come back to tube amps. The Vetta made life pretty easy with regards to effects and switching- my choice to go with the G System was a hopeful continuation of that user-friendliness.



      I chose this unit for two primary reasons- the pristine effects and the amp switching capability (the price tag for the quality did not hurt either).



      So here goes- I do not (and likely never will) use the 4 cable method. I run an OD pedal in front of my amp and that is where it shall stay (its a personal preference... I like to drive the front end) That is the only stomp box that I will likely ever employ, so while the loop on the G is pretty neat, it will go unused.



      I am currently running from my effects loop send on my amp, to the guitar input on the G. From the left mono out of the G, into the return on my amp. Problem is, when I switch my effects loop on, my overall signal drops by a pretty substantial amount- I couldnt tell the difference between 5 and 10 db if it slapped me in the face, but I imagine if I had to it would be in that neighborhood. With my configuration, might one of you wizards be able to advise which level I should adjust, and to what parameter to bring this unit into unity gain? I imagine there is a way to match exactly the level of the amp when bypassing the loop? Also, I am using a Peavey 6505+, there are no adjustments for the level of the loop on the amp.



      The only other question I really have is, how do I create a new patch on the user preset banks? Every time I bank up up to the user banks and hit


      I will not beat to death what several other folks have said here - but a tip. If you think of your pedal-based distortion/OD as your "preamp" section of your amp, much of what is said about 4-cable config in the white paper still applies.



      If you are having signal attenuation issues with the G in your configuration, then my guess is that you did not get it new. For a used unit - perhaps even the rare music store floor demo unit, the FIRST thing you should do is the following:



      1) Clear Bank (in the utility menu)

      2) Clear System (in the utility menu)

      3) Go to TC, get the latest firmware release, and flash it. If that is the release you are running - re-flash it.



      Then you will be in a "known good state" and we can start from there with helping you out.
      • October 21, 2015
  • MarcosSantana
    Contributor - Level 3
    2017-10-29
    i have a play acoustic (last firmware)
    When i go to the advanced options on the bodyrez in the compressor settings
    attack and release only go from 0 to 19 ...
    what do those numbers correlate to?
    are they miliseconds?
    I really hope not because having just 0-19 miliseconds to choose for attack and release times doesn't seem like a smart choice.
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    • MarcosSantana
      ChrisF On a guitar (or in general) compressor, attack controls how much of the "initial attack" on the sting is articulated from min(0) to max(19). So if you're strumming you may want to set it toward a minimum setting so your strumming sounds more evenly, but if you're chicken picking (like country music players do) you may want to set it toward a maximum setting so each note pops out.



      Release controls the decay time of the note you play. On min(0) setting, the note decays naturally but on max(19) setting the note is sustained.



      So if you're playing Van Halen's Cathedral (from Diver Down) for example, you may want to set the attack to 0 and the release to 19.



      Like any effect just experiment though.
      • November 5, 2017
    • MarcosSantana
      TobiasPlonski It would sure be nice to know the actual or estimated milliseconds as that is what a lot of us refer to since we compare what we find useful in, say, a VST or RTAS plugin and would like to start with a close setting to what we already know works with a particular vocalist or genre.

      Can the milliseconds reference to the 0 - 19 be unveiled somehow? Even if TC simply gave us a general reference chart.
      • November 5, 2017
    • MarcosSantana
      TCH-Spencer Hey you guys!

      I was also asked to dig into this by a coworker in support, I'll share my findings with you as well So the compressor algorithm was actually developed by TC Electronic, and because we're such good buddies they let us use it in our products as well. The parameters for "Attack" and "Release" are not milliseconds, they're basically positions in a list of numbers that you're choosing from. In hindsight it seems weird this info wasn't in the manual, but I guess we figured people would use their ears instead of their eyes. Anyways I've attached a table showing how the values you see in the UI relate to the internal values for Attack and Release in the compressor. Cheers!Compressor Values.png
      • December 8, 2017
    • MarcosSantana
      MarcosSantana Thanks a lot for the response!!

      Seriously ...very very grateful.

      That should really be added to the pdf manual
      • January 14, 2018
    • MarcosSantana
      TobiasPlonski This chart is very helpful. At least now I know which direction to go when I want a faster attack and slower release. Lower number = faster and higher number = slower.
      • August 23, 2018
  • Rizwolf
    Contributor - Level 2
    2014-10-10

    Hi guys,start by saying that I can not play without my HS.but I need to use it with a second guitar, now I wonder if I used an a b switch I'll compromise the functionality of stomp pedal?

    Already expect the answer like.....Buy a brand new

    thanks,
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    • Rizwolf
      RobbiRose Radial do some good switching boxes, worth researching them mate
      • November 17, 2014
    • Rizwolf
      Rizwolf
      Thanks I' already check it out some pedals but the features that i need (2 in-2 out-1 insert) seems have only



      Polyswitch or AB 200 I wanna be sure that work' they before purchasing..:now check it better for Radial



      Thanks again..
      • November 17, 2014
  • YvesVanderHaegh
    Contributor - Level 2
    2014-12-19

    Hello,

    just got my VoiceLive 3, and I am enjoying it. However, I tune my acoustic guitar according to how James Taylor does it (see
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2xnXArjPts).

    This means E: -12 cent, A:-10 cent, D: -8 cent, G:-4 cent, B:-6 cent, E:-3 cent. Try it, it's a more harmonious tuning method. Anyway, with the current level of detail on the VoiceLive 3 tuner display this is a bit tricky because of the large range of the tuning display. It would be nice if we could adjust the range.



    Cheers

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    • YvesVanderHaegh
      Anthony2
      It seems to me that the tuner display is divided into 50 inter opposed to 100. So 4 VL3 is equal to 8 cents.
      • January 5, 2015
    • YvesVanderHaegh
      YvesVanderHaegh
      This my be right, but so what? Most tuning apps allow the detail of the scale to be set.
      • January 17, 2015
    • YvesVanderHaegh
      CraigFraser
      Hi Yves,



      That kind of control is one of those things that's useful to a handful of people, but honestly not something we'd consider adding to the firmware in light of other things we'd want to put into the unit. Everything takes development time and this would be very low on our list.



      Just don't want to get your hopes up that you'd see it in the product any time soon, if ever.



      Cheers,

      Craig
      • January 19, 2015
    • YvesVanderHaegh
      YvesVanderHaegh
      Hi Craig.







      Fair enough (Could have been some simple setting to make visible in the firmware). As a developer myself I understand ...



      Another thing that maybe I am missing is how to allocate a preset to some of the genres other than 'Favorites'. E.g. you guys have made some great new acoustic bodyrez presets available, but they do not become part of the 'acoustic' genre. This means that as the presets fill up the genres become less and less useful.



      Cheers



      • January 19, 2015
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