• ElsaObenza
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-09-29

    I am using a Midas 32R. Input 9 seems to be the only working channel when I plug in an SM58. The other working channels are wireless recivers programmed into Inputs 1 and 2. 

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    • ElsaObenza
      GaryHiggins Perhaps you can post your scene/setup using Dropbox or similar, or explain your routing with a bit more detail.
      • September 29, 2020
    • ElsaObenza
      DavidKnighton Hello Elsa Obenza,
      As Gary suggests, if you could drop your current scene in a share folder and provide the link here, then we can investigate any potential routing errors. With the variety of routing options for the M32 consoles, there's a number of ways you can get tripped up if you're not familiar with how to look for them. You can start by checking the HOME/INPUTS tab in ROUTING menu. The LOCAL inputs will be from the rear of the console. AES50 inputs will be from a stage box.
      • September 30, 2020
  • Boinix
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-13

    We have a problem with our Midas Pro2C. When saving a scene in a show file, the channel fader settings are not saved. The faders of the VCA groups, for example, are saved. I.e. If the fader of a channel is up in scene 1, then pulled down to safe a second scene, the channel fader is not raised again when scene 1 is recalles (this works with the VCA faders). The strange thing, however, when the safe scene is recalled, the channels are not reset, the POP groups and VCA groups already ... Recall  and Score Scope is clean ... What are we doing wrong 

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      DavidKnighton Hi Markus Raabe. Is it possible that all the channel fader safes are engaged on your console? You can also program the scenes to ignore fader recall in the show editor. I would suggest loading a NEW show, load the SAFE scene, and do a test sequence of 3 scenes or more to determine the cause.
      • August 13, 2020
    • Boinix
      Boinix Omg channel safes are activated Thank you very much, I think this solves the problem
      • August 13, 2020
  • AaronLane
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-31

    Hi there,

     

    With remote work and assistance becoming the norm in today's COVID-19 climate, our need and reliance on remote apps is ever increasing. I've noticed an issue when using the M32-Edit software with the Midas M32 desk, that after some time, the software either loses connection with the desk and it requires reconnecting, or no longer is able to synchronise properly. In order to resolve the issue and regain full control, the desk needs to be restarted.

    I have attempted closing the software and reconnecting, but synchronisation only gets to 90%. Exactly 90% every time. This happens on computers connected both locally and remotely. 

    I have also noticed that after some time, the desk starts dropping pings and this is the same time connection issues with the app start. The desk also has a Dante card installed, and there doesn't appear to be any issues with connection to that.

    The issue happens with both the Mac and Windows version, so appears to be an issue with the desk. The desk is running the latest version of firmwate - 4.02. M32-Edit version is V4.1 .

    Does anyone else have this issue, or able to assist with resolving the issue? Any assistance would be appreciated.

     

    Kind regards,

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      Nigel67 Hi Aaron, this is not something that I am aware of, but I will pass your comments on to the designers and ask them to test. Is it always after roughly the same amount of time that the sync is lost, or a particular amount of time that the EDIT software has been idle or completely random. You mention Windows and MAC. Is this the latest OS versions. if not, please advise. Many thanks. Could you also give someinformation on your set up with the pc's and connections.
      • August 31, 2020
      • M32-Edit - Software losing access to M32 Desk
        Nigel67 Hi Aaron, now I have more information, I would agree with Kevin. You are more than likely having an IP address confict that is swamping the edit software and causing it to freeze. I will look into this a little further and get back to you.
        • September 2, 2020
    • AaronLane
      KevinMaxwell It sounds to me like M32Edit doesn't like to play nice with Dante on the same network. Have you tried using a separate network for M32Edit.
      • September 1, 2020
      • M32-Edit - Software losing access to M32 Desk
        AaronLane Hi Kevin,

        That's an interesting idea. To be honest, no I haven't tried that. I'm currently out of town, but will see what I can do about isolating the networks and connecting to it directly. It'll be interesting to see if A - the issue still happens, and B - if it does, can it recover without restarting the desk.

        Kind regards,
        • September 1, 2020
    • AaronLane
      AaronLane OK... Update on testing:

      I ran two machines locally both with Dante and M32-Edit for around 6 hours with music playing on 6 channels into the desk, and 6 channels out. Adjust faders here and there with no issues, no disconnections, no need to re-sync. The desk's ethernet connection is still on the same network as Dante. I also double checked the IP adresses and there is no conflict.

      The next day I restarted the desk, and this time connected via VPN. This time the software only lasted a couple of hours before disconnecting. The more often I reconnected, the less time it would stay connected and require re-syncing. After I while, I decided to connect via a local machine, and it was now experiencing the same issue.

      It appears that when M32-Edit connects to the sound desk from a remote connection, it starts losing connection more and more affecting both remote and local M32-Edit connections. Something happens that causes the desk to not recover until being restarted.

      The VPN connection is reasonably stable with a round trip ping time averaging 15ms. The connection seems stable with constant pings from the remote computer to the desk's gateway and Dante card, however the desk's ethernet card will start dropping pings (both locally and from remote machine) after some time.

      It appears that the desks ethernet connection isn't able to manage prolonged latency (ie >1ms) and becomes unresponsive more and more often.

      The below recording is from the local machine which wasn't having any issues until a remote connection was made. To overcome this, the desk needs to be restarted.

      I'm still off-site for another week or so, but please let me know if there is any other tests you'd like me to run.
      • September 3, 2020
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        AaronLane https://1drv.ms/v/s!ArNt8Hh027d9sHIErCTLoDJn9Z08?e=zQrORk
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      • M32-Edit - Software losing access to M32 Desk
        KevinMaxwell From everything I have read over the years I don’t think that you can do what you are trying to do successfully unless you are running the M32 Edit locally on a computer next to the M32. And then running a program on your remote computer that allows you to see the local computer screen and control the local computer with your remote computer. I am not an expert in this at all. But the connection between the M32 and the Computer running M32 Edit is critical and I don’t think it can work reliable enough over VPN to maintain the consistency and speed needed to make it work properly.

        I don’t think you mentioned that you were trying to do this over VPN in your original post. I am actually surprised that someone else didn’t mention that this probably won’t ever work reliably. I am actually surprised that you got it to work at all.
        • September 4, 2020
  • New
    GuillaumeDESBOI
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-11-27

    Hello,

    I noticed that a snippet won't consider "main stereo" affectation on channels, even with all parameters in the snippets menu selected.

    That'would be great help to be able to have this feature activated.

    (FW4.04)

     

    Guillaume

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    • GuillaumeDESBOI
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Guillaume, I just saved (and exported) a test snippet (using the M32-Edit snippet GUI) with Fader, Pan and Mute filters and a few channels selected, and it saves those settings correctly.
      • November 27, 2020
    • GuillaumeDESBOI
      Paul_Vannatto I just loaded that snippet and you are correct, it is not changing the Main LR assignment. I will report that to the developers.
      • November 27, 2020
      • M32R snippets
        GuillaumeDESBOI Great, thanks Paul!
        • November 27, 2020
      • M32R snippets
        Paul_Vannatto I was just discussing this with one of the developers and I was incorrect in stating that it saved the LR in the snippet. The /ch/01/mix/on OSC line is the channel mute, not the LR. To save the LR setting, it needs the /ch/01/mix/st command which is not available using the console or Edit snippet GUI. But it is available if the snippet is exported to a file, the edited using a text editor, then imported back to the snippet list. The line would be something like this:
        /ch/01/mix/st ON
        or
        /ch/01/mix/st OFF
        • November 27, 2020
      • M32R snippets
        GuillaumeDESBOI Thank you very much Paul, I'll try to modify that!
        • November 27, 2020
      • M32R snippets
        GuillaumeDESBOI Worked pretty well, thanks again!
        • November 28, 2020
  • Cimarron
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-03-16

    Hello all,

        I just received my M32 mixer, and it came with a DN32-Live card to interface to my DAW.  It seems that this may be the place I might request suggestions on what I might need to do to make that work.  If not, and you can suggest a proper place to ask, I would appreciate that.

        So, in general I found some directions for installing the drivers and such for the DN32-USB, which may be part of my issue (or not), though I didn't appreciate that there was a distinction at the time.  I followed the directions to upgrade the M32's firmware to 4.02, and that seemed to complete fine, the M32 is working from what I can tell (I've not tried every option - by far, of course) and sounds great through the mains.

        I then installed the ASIO-Driver v4.59 onto my DAW computer.  I can see the DN32-LIVE in the Device Manager under Sound, video and game controllers.  However looking at the Properties, the Device status says that "This device cannot start [Code 10]".  I've tried computer restarting/power cycling (several times), using different USB ports, trying a different USB cable, to no avail.

        Also, and probably no surprise here, I've tried the DN32USBAudioDfu.exe, which it appears is intended to update firmware on the DN32-LIVE itself, which pops up a "DN32-USB Firmware Upgrade" window, but it says "No device found.  Please plug in the device you want to upgrade".

        In my frustration I even dug out an old Macbook Pro and tried plugging into that (it was suggested that no driver installation would be needed for the Mac - though I wouldn't want to use that computer as my DAW), and that instantly just crashed my Mac upon plugin, and if I powered it up with the DN32 plugged in via USB, it also crashed while trying to boot.  So, some research about that seemed to suggest that my Macbook Pro had "Snow Leopard" on it, which does crash like that, but upgrading to Lion (I think it was - next version up), would make it work.  I haven't yet tried to do the upgrade, since thats not my preferred system for this.  But at least it indicates that some computer can detect and react (by crashing) to the fact that my DN32 is attached - and given the OS installed on that system, it even reacts the way that is expected (though not as desired).

    So I guess the main point of this post is to solicit any suggestions or guidance that could get my M32-Live connected to my Computer (and then get the DAW to see it).  Thanks for any help with this.

    -- Greg

     

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      RexBeckett

      @Cimarron 


      Hello Greg, welcome to the community.


      First check that the option card is really a DN32-Live. It should have SD card slots as well as a USB connector. With the console power off, remove the card and reinsert - making sure it fits into the guides correctly.


       


      With the console power on, check on Setup -> Card that the card is being recognized. Also check on Setup -> Global under Firmware that the card firmware is A12. If not, you will need to download the A12 firmware and install it.


       


      With everything connected and on, open Windows Device Manager and display the DN32-Live device. Right-click and select Uninstall. Now disconnect the USB and reboot the PC. When you reconnect the USB, the device should be reinstalled - possibly without errors.

      • March 16, 2020
    • Cimarron
      GaryHiggins

      @Cimarron 


      I think @RexBeckett has hit the main issue-the DN-32 Live latest firmware is required. Pretty sure you need A12 with mixer firmware 4.02. That can't be done via a computer but by a usb stick on the mixer itself. If mixer firmware version 4.02 is installed already you can try to update the card with the mixer ON by using setup/update/firmware (bottom left of the screen) and then it will let you scroll to the proper update file on the usb drive. If that fails or won't work properly you will have to do it with the mixer off. Make sure the A12 card firmware file is then the ONLY firmware at the root directory with the mixer off method. Other type mixer firmware can be in a folder on the drive but not at the root directory. Turn on the mixer while holding down the usb button, the card firmware should update. You can cofirm the card firmware on the setup page by reading the (very tiny) info given there.


      I might suggest completely uninstalling the drivers and trying again.


      Also perhaps worth a try is usb driver 4.38 which can be found if you check off show legacy versions in the list of available files.


       


      EDIT: There are several known issues with Win7-documented in the pdf.


       


       

      • March 16, 2020
    • Cimarron
      Cimarron

      @GaryHigginsThanks for taking time to reply to my message.


      As I mentioned in my reply to @RexBeckett it looks like the M32 (which has 4.02 firmware)  sees the DN32 card, and is reporting a firmware version of A12.  So, I would assume I could move beyond the firmware installation (or re-installation), or would you think that might still be a potental step to take?


      It seems a reasonable step to try deleting the DN32 driver in Windows Add/Remove programs (after first removing the device again from the device manager), and then reinstalling it.  I've seen stranger things happen.


      Failing that I may look into the 4.38 driver.  Thanks for that information.  And I'll look for the .pdf you refered to.


      Thanks again,


      -- Greg


       

      • March 17, 2020
    • Cimarron
      RexBeckett

      @Cimarron 


      It sounds as though the console is happy with the DN32-Live card and the card is running the latest firmware. I cannot say whether it is worth buying a suitable driver to reseat the card only that it has sometimes fixed problems. It has also been known for reinstallation of the card firmware to apparently fix problems. I've seen it on my own console and cannot explain it. Sometimes there can be a sequence of steps that fix a problem and we don't always identify the actual cause.


       


      There can be several reasons why a USB device cannot start. Common ones are defective USB cables, using a USB 3 port instead of a USB 2.0 one, connecting through a USB hub, incorrect drivers or that the device has a fault. I think you have already tried different cables and ports. It would certainly be worth following Gary's advice to reinstall the driver and, if necessary, trying an older version of the driver.

      • March 17, 2020
    • Cimarron
      Cimarron

      My son brought his macbook down and we connected the USB from the DN32-LIVE to that and he pulled up Logic and it saw the interface and could specify any of the 32 channels as the input device for a channel.  So, it seems pretty apparent that the issue is with my computer.


      I had purchased myself the appropriate screwdriver and removed the DN32-LIVE, and re-installed it.  Just to give that a chance, and overall good to have the screwdriver.  No change.


      I went to try the older 4.38 driver, and in the folder with the driver there is a PDF file TUSBAudio_KnownIssues_v4.38.0.pdf which I looked into and see a section "10.3 AllSignersEqual Group Policy breaks Driver Installation".  Reading about this it sounds like the issue I'm having.  If this is set to OFF somehow (thrugh Group Policy Editor or something), Windows will not actually install the driver although the driver setup finishes successfully.  When it finds the DN32 on the USB port it installs a built in driver "for the respective device which possibly fails to start".  I had noticed that the device manager page that described the DN32 device did say something about a "Microsoft" driver, but I thought that might have been a result of the other issue I'd had to address to even try to install the driver, which involved installing a Windows Update KB3033929 to resolve.  This was apparently due to an issue that the driver wasn't signed (or incorrectly signed or something).


      So, I wanted to check on the setting, but apparently the Windows 7 Home Premium edition on my computer is too lame to have gpedit.msc to start from the run menu (or another thing I saw mentioned gpupdate.msc from an administrator command prompt), which are the tools that are to be used for "Enterprise" versions of Win7, and it did mention that they wouldn't be there if you had Home Premium.  But it didn't mention how to check, or what to do if you do have Home Premium (which I do).


      This sounds like exactly what I'm encountering, If anyone knows about Group Policies on Home Premium (does it even have them?), or perhaps an alternate approach to installing the driver (manually copying some files into place and possibly making a registry entry or such)?  Or perhaps this might already have been resolved, if I only knew where to look or what to search for.

      • March 23, 2020
  • BenSeaman
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-07

    So I have a very new MR18. Haven't done anything to it really; connected over the built in LAN a few times and that's about all. I recently got a UniFi access point, thinking I could run that off the built in DHCP server, that the MR is supposed to have, without any external router or anything. After a bunch of trying with different switches and stuff, I wasn't able to make any connection. I tried networking the unit directly from the MR to my Surface Book, and the network diagnostic error is that there's no IP lease when the unit is both on DHCP and DHCP server. I don't know how to establish a hardwired network connection because of this, and furthermore I don't know where to go with the wireless solution. All help is appreciated. Thanks.

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      GaryHiggins You need to connect to your Mixer with the switch in the furthest right access point position first. Once connected you can then make changes to other networking settings, ethernet or wifi client. If you are not connected when changes are made they will not “stick” and revert back to what they were at default. Once changes are made while connected you can then move the switch to ethernet or wifi and they should remain.
      • August 7, 2020
      • MR18 DHCP not functioning
        BenSeaman Yep so I've gotten the built in access point to work no problem. I've configured the mixer in numerous ways to try and let it accept DHCP and host DHCP and all that, including trying statics, and none of it is working, and there's no easy way to tell if it's "sticking" or not - the app doesn't really tell you. So, I don't know where to go from there.
        • August 7, 2020
      • MR18 DHCP not functioning
        GaryHiggins Unifi routers are fantastic but not always easy to setup and use, I would suspect a setting in there may be amiss. Are you able to access it with other devices ok? If you had easy access to a different router I would suggest trying that to see if it's router or MR that's causing the issues. I will try to dig out my MR and connect to my unifi router and see what my settings are. I can't remember clearly what I did. I don't generally direct connect to it, I use it via wifi. Also have not touched the MR in several months so I'm a bit foggy as to what I did exactly. I am fairly sure I used static ip's and not dhcp
        • August 8, 2020
      • MR18 DHCP not functioning
        BenSeaman So I can only connect to the MR over the built in access point as of right now. I've tried numerous different things for connecting over ethernet, including the MR being the DHCP server with the computer on DHCP, both on static, and multiple more, and none of them have been able to read properly. I'm guessing it's not a Unifi problem given that I can't hardwire from my computer (tried Surface Book, MacBook Pro and iMac at this point so it can't be computer error) and I've successfully had the AP run off my house network without any issues. I have a Unifi Edge Router coming later which I'll test out, but given that it didn't work with 2 other routers, I have doubts.
        • August 8, 2020
    • BenSeaman
      GaryHiggins I was able to connect to my Unifi router (AP LR) using the following settings. I used DHCP server to see. I also included my AP and WIFI settings. EDIT: Connected without issue. Also NOT directly connected, MR connected by lan cable to a switch that's is hard wired to the Ubiquiti AP. PC then connects wirelessly to the Ubiquiti network.
      • August 8, 2020
      • MR18 DHCP not functioning
        BenSeaman Thanks for showing all this, but even with every parameter matched, I'm getting a 169... address on my computer and no read from the M Air app.
        • August 8, 2020
      • MR18 DHCP not functioning
        BenSeaman Update: so I now have the ubiquiti stuff set up (Edge Router X and AP) and that stuff does work, just the MR still isn't getting an IP on DHCP mode or anything so I'm really curious what the issue is.
        • August 8, 2020
    • BenSeaman
      DavidKnighton Hello Ben, are you doing all this from an iPad or Android tablet? Try connecting a PC or MAC to the access point to make changes to the IP settings.
      • August 10, 2020
  • vmorgan
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-09-14

    Hello,

    I've posted previously about having an issue with seeing the channel names broadcasted to the DP48 while using an SD8 with the Behringer X32 Compact. The community has helped with understanding the AES50 A & B streams. However, I still need help from the community to answer this question.

    Should the DP48 see the broadcasted channel names when connected to an SD series digital snake or should I be using the S or DL series digital snakes?

    What I've experienced is that the DP48 does not see the broadcasted channel name but does get the same channel setup and audio from the AES50 A side the snake box is setup on. When the DP48 is directly connected to a separate AES50 port on the mixer and NOT through the SD snake box, all the channel names are received including real-time name changes.  I've experienced this on the X32 Compact and WING mixers using the SD8 and SD16 stage boxes. 

    Tribal help is greatly appreciated.

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    • vmorgan
      GaryHiggins Did you try going to the DP48 first, and then on from the thru port to the SD? Just a thought, I sort of recall that being said way back when. Or use them on a separate aes50 line. I’ve only scratched the DP surface so others may have better info. Also what firmware for the DP? Lots fixed either the most recent one.
      • September 14, 2020
      • A Journey with the DP48
        vmorgan No I haven't tried connecting the DP48 first and then coming off the B port of the DP48 to the SD16. The DP48 has been updated to v1.5.
        • September 14, 2020
      • A Journey with the DP48
        GaryHiggins Ok, you also use the setup within the X32? Firmware there is also the latest?
        • September 14, 2020
    • vmorgan
      vmorgan Yes the X32 had the latest firmware. Now using the Behringer Wing mixer with the most recently released update.
      • September 14, 2020
      • A Journey with the DP48
        GaryHiggins My Wing is on its way to be repaired (ghost touches) so I can't try it out but it may be a bug you have found. How about just dedicating one port for only DP48 use? Again I recall that being suggested in another thread as a solution in past firmware...or it was in my dreams!
        • September 14, 2020
      • A Journey with the DP48
        vmorgan Yeah I read that thread back in June/July. That's the plan, but it requires two long runs of Cat6 ethercon cable to be ran.
        • September 14, 2020
      • A Journey with the DP48
        GaryHiggins Paul V. may be able to help out, he has worked with the DP48's for quite a while now. He will know if its possible or not yet implemented. Yes the extra cat run can be problematic. I would try the DP48 as the first connection for sure, no harm no foul.
        • September 14, 2020
      • A Journey with the DP48
        vmorgan Confirmed, it works going to the DP48 first and then to the SD16. It's just odd that you can't see the names the other way around.
        • September 15, 2020
    • vmorgan
      AndreasKormann Did you also update the firmware of the SD16? Because I had an issue with S16 on old firmware.
      • December 15, 2020
    • vmorgan
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Vijay, if you are not seeing the channels on the DP48 when having the stagebox placed in between the console and the DP48, you need to update the firmware of that stagebox (eg. SD16). There was a bug that was fixed in the latest firmware update.
      • December 15, 2020
  • New
    GuillaumeDESBOI
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-11-27

    Hello, Talkback activation isn't saved with scene memory on M32R, that would be great if we could activate that feature.

    Regards,

    Guillaume

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      Paul_Vannatto Hi Guillaume, I just saved and exported a scene (using M32-Edit) and it does include the talkback in the scene file (lines 11-13).
      • November 27, 2020
    • GuillaumeDESBOI
      GuillaumeDESBOI Hi Paul, yes it may work on M32-edit but the enable button in the M32-edit and M32 screen menu aren't correlated with the hardware button on the desk.
      • November 27, 2020
      • M32R talkback in memory scenes
        Paul_Vannatto Is there a particular reason why you would want that saved? To me it doesn't make sense to save that status in a scene file.
        • November 27, 2020
      • M32R talkback in memory scenes
        Paul_Vannatto Doing a bit more digging, and referring to Patrick's OSC Protocol doc, the talkback button status uses a /-stat/talk OSC command. None of the /-prefs or /-stat commands can be included in scene files (I've tried to add them manually). So this won't be possible. Sorry.
        • November 27, 2020
      • M32R talkback in memory scenes
        Paul_Vannatto There is a workaround, Guillaume. You could create a snippet with the desired /-stat/talk command and import it to the snippet list. Then create a cue to combine the scene and snippet to change all desired settings.
        • November 27, 2020
    • GuillaumeDESBOI
      GuillaumeDESBOI Hi, the idea was to have the session loaded with TB activated because there is a already a switch on the remote mic panel. Thank for the workaround I'll try to check this.
      • November 27, 2020
  • New
    Pauldouglas68
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-06-19

    Hi need help can’t find app for mr18 edit app for Samsung tablet

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    • Pauldouglas68
      Paul_Vannatto Search for Mixing Station and get the X-Air version. The Pro version is well worth the small cost IMO.
      • Jun 19
  • drice
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-06-13

    We have an M32 in our Broadcast TV station and the features are excellent, but we hate having to use up two faders for every stereo source input. I'm wondering if controlling a linked pair of inputs with a single fader might ever be a feature in a future firmware/software update?

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      AnthonieHunter

      Did you consider controlling the pair with a DCA?

      • June 13, 2019
    • drice
      drice

      Using a DCA to control a stereo input is a great idea and I’m using four of them for that purpose currently. We’ve got about 10 stereo sources we’d like to have on single faders. The console has enough inputs for all of our sources, just trying to get the most frequently used ones on the top fader layer. And trying to get my sound ops used to a console that is not our analog 32 channel Verona!  Thanks for the input!

      • June 13, 2019
    • drice
      drice

      While playing around with the great options that everyone has been suggesting, I stumbled upon another possibility (provided you aren't concerned with keeping stereo separation on a particular input). This solution could also work as a kind of internal router, and works around the "routing in banks of eight only" limitation by allowing the placement of any single input on any fader. 


      Here's the theory (I have't actually tried it yet). Physically patch a cable between an available Aux Output and an XLR input in the 1-16 range (to put it on the first fader bank). Now you can internally route any one of your inputs to that Aux, and it will be available on that first bank's fader. Be sure to send that input prefader and pre-mute, then mute the actual input, so it does not feed the Main output from there. You'll now have full control of that input on the fader you chose, without having to change fader banks to get to it. You could send a stereo pair to that Aux and control it with that single fader (it will be summed mono of course), without burning a DCA or two top bank faders. 


      In our TV studio, we have to occasionally use different sources for different shows, and the mix can be unpredicatable, so having 1 or 2 "route-able" inputs can be really useful to keep the frequently used faders for that show on the top page/bank. We've got a lot of possible inputs from audio clip playback devices, graphics SFX, in-studio guest mics, phone callers, Skype guests and satellite guests, so it's not possible to keep them all on the first fader bank, and the mixer's installation makes it impractical to physically repatch before each show. I can save a scene for each possible scenario and just load the correct one once I know where all my sources are coming from for a particular show. 


      Thanks for all the great advice everyone, and I hope this idea can work for someone who might have been struggling with a similar issue (if it actually works and does not create some kind of audio black hole). 


       

      • June 15, 2019
    • drice
      KevinMaxwell


      @drice wrote:


      While playing around with the great options that everyone has been suggesting, I stumbled upon another possibility (provided you aren't concerned with keeping stereo separation on a particular input). This solution could also work as a kind of internal router, and works around the "routing in banks of eight only" limitation by allowing the placement of any single input on any fader. 


      Here's the theory (I have't actually tried it yet). Physically patch a cable between an available Aux Output and an XLR input in the 1-16 range (to put it on the first fader bank). Now you can internally route any one of your inputs to that Aux, and it will be available on that first bank's fader. Be sure to send that input prefader and pre-mute, then mute the actual input, so it does not feed the Main output from there. You'll now have full control of that input on the fader you chose, without having to change fader banks to get to it. You could send a stereo pair to that Aux and control it with that single fader (it will be summed mono of course), without burning a DCA or two top bank faders. 


      In our TV studio, we have to occasionally use different sources for different shows, and the mix can be unpredicatable, so having 1 or 2 "route-able" inputs can be really useful to keep the frequently used faders for that show on the top page/bank. We've got a lot of possible inputs from audio clip playback devices, graphics SFX, in-studio guest mics, phone callers, Skype guests and satellite guests, so it's not possible to keep them all on the first fader bank, and the mixer's installation makes it impractical to physically repatch before each show. I can save a scene for each possible scenario and just load the correct one once I know where all my sources are coming from for a particular show. 


      Thanks for all the great advice everyone, and I hope this idea can work for someone who might have been struggling with a similar issue (if it actually works and does not create some kind of audio black hole). 


       





      I am not understanding what this will give you unless you are talking about using a Mix Bus to mearge each pair of inputs.

      • June 16, 2019
    • drice
      drice

      Merging (summing) the stereo inputs to one fader is one possible use, the other is that this allows me to internally route any one of my inputs to the top bank of faders. Sure, I could do this by simply connecting that device to an input that already appears on the top layer, but the connections on the back of our mixer are not easily accessible, and depending on what sources we are using for a show, I might want to quickly place something on a top level fader that does not usually appear there. Some other mixers allow you to do this on an single input basis, but the M32 locks you into routing inputs to faders in banks of eight. 

      • June 17, 2019
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