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  • nunocasais
    Contributor - Level 2
    2015-04-02
    Everyday I check on google and this forum is is there someone clever who builds up a solution to this detail that can be a lifesaver to a solo musician, and not only.
    Need a solution for tapping tempo... or need a device that tanslates midi clock from a midi device (that has the updated tempo from song to song) and convert it and send it to the XR18 OSC language.
    Does this exist or I am asking too much?
    Today I saw a big jump on this by a forum user, Colin Heron, that i salute and congratulate for his efforts to help us all.
    And now?
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    • nunocasais
      DanBekkers

      Nuno Casais;45693 wrote:

      Everyday I check on google and this forum is is there someone clever who builds up a solution to this detail that can be a lifesaver to a solo musician, and not only.

      Need a solution for tapping tempo... or need a device that tanslates midi clock from a midi device (that has the updated tempo from song to song) and convert it and send it to the XR18 OSC language.

      Does this exist or I am asking too much?

      Today I saw a big jump on this by a forum user, Colin Heron, that i salute and congratulate for his efforts to help us all.

      And now?




      Hi, I've been watching from the sidelines with interest...



      Does this remote controllable tap delay function currently work on the X32? I'm not an expert, but rather than re-invent the wheel, shouldn't that be the starting point?



      OSC documentation exists for the X32 http://www.academia.edu/9709659/UNOFFICIAL_X32_OSC_REMOTE_PROTOCOL





      Is the XR18 OSC implementation a subset of the X32? Will it include this capability?
      • April 1, 2015
    • nunocasais
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Nuno and Dan.



      I haven't forgot your initial request Nuno. There are a few of us working in the background on this midi to OSC adapter. Unfortunately it is going to take some time to get to the point of a working prototype. When I saw Colin's post of his project, a light came on and there may be a quick solution for your tap tempo footpedal needs. The arduino platform not only has libraries available for receiving and sending midi commands. But there are also OSC libraries as well. As you mentioned Nuno, this could be a "big jump" for what you (and others) have been asking for.



      The answer to your question Dan is yes, OSC does have the necessary commands to set the tap tempo. By the way that OSC document was written by our own Patrick-Gilles Maillot and his website is here https://sites.google.com/site/patrickmaillot/x32 that not only includes his OSC document, but also a number of amazing X32 and X-Air apps.
      • April 2, 2015
    • nunocasais
      nunocasais Thank you very much Paul for keeping us in mind, and for your kindness and precious help.

      Kind regards!



      Paul Vannatto;45712 wrote:

      Hi Nuno and Dan.



      I haven't forgot your initial request Nuno. There are a few of us working in the background on this midi to OSC adapter. Unfortunately it is going to take some time to get to the point of a working prototype. When I saw Colin's post of his project, a light came on and there may be a quick solution for your tap tempo footpedal needs. The arduino platform not only has libraries available for receiving and sending midi commands. But there are also OSC libraries as well. As you mentioned Nuno, this could be a "big jump" for what you (and others) have been asking for.



      The answer to your question Dan is yes, OSC does have the necessary commands to set the tap tempo. By the way that OSC document was written by our own Patrick-Gilles Maillot and his website is here https://sites.google.com/site/patrickmaillot/x32 that not only includes his OSC document, but also a number of amazing X32 and X-Air apps.
      • April 2, 2015
    • nunocasais
      JohnBaker To do tap tempo, you need a "master" that can generate and send MIDI clock, and a "slave" device (usually an FX pedal) that can receive and understand the MIDI clock. There are numerous devices out their for guitarist that can determine the tempo from a couple of taps, and then send out MIDI clock at the calculated tempo. The best I've found is the Molten Voltage "Tempode."



      What makes this difficult, Nuno, is the XR18. To my knowledge, the XR stuff does not understand (can't receive and sync to) MIDI clock data. (Correct me if I'm wrong, X32 experts.) The time-based FX in the X18 (delay, chorus, etc) need to receive OSC parameters for Speed or Time. So, that means you need a special customized doo-dad (i.e. Arduino, MIDI CPU, etc) with some code in it that will understand (or generate) MIDI clock tempo, extract the current tempo, and stick that tempo into the proper OSC command (for the FX Speed or Time) and send it via MIDI to the XR.



      What a silly pain in the arp! Why can't Behringer just update some code so that the XR products support MIDI clock? Its not a big deal. The XR wouldn't necessarily need to generate or calculate the clock tempo (be a master), it just needs to receive it (be a slave) and also pass it thru. Then those of us who already have or want to buy stuff that generate MIDI clock (which is quite common for guitar players, and also common in many MIDI-based apps) can command the XR mixer to get in sync.
      • April 2, 2015
    • nunocasais
      nunocasais Totally agree with you John.

      My setup works like this:

      AUDIO PATH - Acoustic guitar with a Midi Pickup > Roland GR-55 Guitar Synth > Boss RC-300 Loopstation > XR18 Input

      MIDI PATH - Boss RC-300 Loopstation Midi Out > Roland GR-55 Guitar Synth



      Fortunatly, my Boss loopstation makes my work a lot easier, because any time I build a loop, the RC-300 automatically detects my tempo, that is sent via Midi Clock to the GR-55 (acting as a Slave).

      My goal was, simply, that the XR18 accepts this info like the GR-55 does, receiving Midi clock information and update automatically delay tempo.

      Right now, i have my midi path a little bit different, because i am controlling via foot pedal the Delay FX on/off, wich consists on a foot control tap pedal hooked to the Boss-RC300 (master)that sends Midi CC on channel 2 to toggle delay On/off. Unfortunatly i can't do more than this, so i keep tapping tempo on my Ipad and playing guitar at the same time (like in a circus), and swithcing apps from X-Edit to my Lyrics App (Onsong)...

      Only those who play alone knows what i am talking about.

      We need the XR-18 to be a little bit more friendly...
      • April 2, 2015
  • RichardGibson
    Contributor - Level 2
    2017-04-08
    This thread is to be exclusively about the promised X32 expansion board for 32 track recording to SD Card, as announced by Uli Behringer on 27 Dec 2016.

    I would remind all posters to be very careful not to inadvertently break any forum rules in what they write - keep it on topic and polite - because a previous thread on this topic has just been closed by a forum moderator who didn't like what he read there.

    If we break no rules, this thread will be allowed to stay open.

    The SD recording card expansion board is obviously a hot topic, as that previous thread was only one week old and already attracted 1,226 views by interested X32 owners and /or potential customers here.

    If anybody had any technical specs, product information, price, availability or other news about this expansion board, please share it here.

    Thank you very much, folks.
    Have a nice day.
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    • RichardGibson
      ScottBolt I check back regularly since multi-track direct to SD has been my single largest request for a new feature



      Some of the things I am really hoping to see:



      [LIST=1]


    • Integration with all current remote applications

    • Integration with console (although I don't have one, I know this will be a big plus for all those who do

    • A slick naming and directory system (ie, name the recording, it makes a new folder complete with all tracks (tracks should be named by the scribble strip name). The automatic name generated should be the date/time for those that don't want to poke in a specific name so you can just hit "OK" and record

    • One-touch flip from real inputs, to virtual inpus for fast playback. This would require some kind of setup to determine which input banks are switched when you hit the button.

    • Retain the USB 32x32 capability of the existing card (although honestly, if the system is good, I would never use it again, so this is lower on my personal priority list)

    • (This is a big one) Ability to play MP3's from play lists (and the ability to create those play lists remotely, or from the console)


      Apart from the basic ability to record to SD, the real differentiator here is going to be how well the work flow operates and how well the remote applications work with this new feature.

      Behringer has done such a good job with this product so far, I can't imagine that this card is not going to be a real treat to use.

      If these things can be accomplished, I would simply be elated.
      • April 8, 2017
  • RichardGibson
    RaphaelBecker-F Regardless of the release date - for the european people the Cymatic card is now availbale for 229€ as B-Stock at Thomann. For that price, you can't go wrong with hat one either.
    • April 8, 2017
  • RichardGibson
    LucHenrion The big difference though is USB stick/drive vs SD card. I much prefer the second for several reasons: an SD card is almost invisible (= not breakable) when inserted, and is more reliable in terms of writing speed - provided you choose the right one of course: a "class 10" should be 100% safe. If it can record 4K videos, it should be able to record 32 x 24 bit tracks with ease.



    But I would also be happy if the USB 32 x 32 interface will be kept as on the Cymatic: when you're paid to capture live performances, a complete back-up recording system is never too much.

    Just my 2 cents. And yes, I would be VERY happy if Behringer could give us more infos like the one I'm talking about above...
    • April 8, 2017
  • RichardGibson
    RaphaelBecker-F Luc, this is totally up to personal preferrance. We all know about the benefits of SD card vs USB Stick. Then again you could say a good ssd harddrive will be of superior quality to any SD card and be considered the more professional medium by the recoding guys. So thats a draw.



    What I was tying to say:



    The Cymatic card can be bought NOW and at the given price, it can be considered a fact that it will be considerably less expensive than the Behringer offering. So even if you find the SD version more ideal - thats always personal preferrance - but you need something now....NOW is the time to get a cymatic.
    • April 8, 2017
  • RichardGibson
    RichardYClark

    But I would also be happy if the USB 32 x 32 interface will be kept as on the Cymatic: when you're paid to capture live performances, a complete back-up recording system is never too much.




    But with the Cymatic card you can only do one or the other, not both at once. So, unfortunately, you can't run a backup recording on a laptop via USB at the same time as recording to the plug in hard drive.
    • April 9, 2017
  • InactiveUser
    Contributor - Level 2
    2012-11-06
    First timer here, so please be candid but patient.

    I just bought a X1204USB (like, today) and started messing around with it. I connected my mp3 player into the 2-track/USB jacks and I can hear it fine with the phones, and the VU meter senses it alright, but I can't record it in the computer!

    Looking around on the Internet (not here) I've found people saying it's normal, with no further explanation. Am I doing something wrong or the 2-track/USB isn't supposed to get recorded? If so, what's its purpose?
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      AndrewLuck There's some logic behind the routing of the x1204USB's 2-Track / USB functionality that will help to understand.



      The first thing you should understand is that you can only play back music via the USB or the 2-track RCA input on that bus. I assume your MP3 player is connected to that RCA input.



      Next, there are two red 2-track/USB buttons for routing the output of the playback through the Main Mix or the Ctrl Room output. One is located in the "Source" box for the Ctrl Room selection. The other is directly about the volume dial for the Headphones/Ctrl room output to the right of that "Source" box.



      When these buttons are pushed in, it allows for playback of the 2-track OR the USB input from your computer. When out, this will allow you to record the signal flowing through the Main Mix output. Assure your Main Mix faders are up and you are receiving a healthy signal.



      The problem this is presenting is that you are not able to playback the 2-track input and record simultaneously.



      There's a simple solution for recording your MP3 player. You should utilize a stereo 1/8" to dual 1/4" cable, to input in one of the stereo channels, such as 5/6 or 7/8.



      Utilizing one of these stereo outputs will allow you to play back through the Main Mix output while the red 2 track / USB button is in the up/off position. (in recording mode) This will allow you to record and playback simultaneously!



      stereo 1/8" to dual 1/4" -> http://tinyurl.com/d6vrxyv
      • November 14, 2012
    • InactiveUser
      InactiveUser Cool. I'll try what you suggested.



      Thanks for your reply!
      • November 19, 2012
    • InactiveUser
      InactiveUser looks like there is no way to have 2tracks(or USB) AND Console on the control output at the same time so ? can't hear already record track + input of mixer while only recording mixer then ?



      Should be specifically note on userGuide coé saying '2 tracks can be switch either on control or main mix' does not mean mixer is disconnected from control while tracks is switched to control.... :'( guess no solution except buying one with matrix input on control output then ?
      • November 26, 2012
    • InactiveUser
      ChrisPainter

      ashofphoenix;1491 wrote:

      looks like there is no way to have 2tracks(or USB) AND Console on the control output at the same time so ? can't hear already record track + input of mixer while only recording mixer then ?



      Should be specifically note on userGuide coé saying '2 tracks can be switch either on control or main mix' does not mean mixer is disconnected from control while tracks is switched to control.... :'( guess no solution except buying one with matrix input on control output then ?




      Ash,



      The 2 track/USB input to the mixer, is the only output that cannot be routed back into the USB to the computer. This is specifically designed to prevent a horrible feedback loop. Typically, you won't want to record the computers output, back into it's input. To record any external source, use any of the inputs, just not the RCA 2 track inputs.



      We hope this helps!
      • November 27, 2012
    • InactiveUser
      InactiveUser I thing you misunderstand me... I don't want to loop back USB/2track From PC to Console and back to PC for recording... I'm just saying that the Q802USB can EITHER send 2TRACK_in/USB_in OR mixer1/8 to CONTROL output but not both at the same time.



      MAIN MIX output of course should and must remain from mixer1/8 ONLY, as it's the output to 2TRACK_inout/usb_out



      But In CONTROL output, I would have like to be able to hear pre record tracks from USB_in/2TRACK_in AND mixer1/8 at the same while MAIN MIX output keeps only mixer 1/8 to 2TRACK_out/USB_out...



      In other world "matrix input to controm output"... IN Q802USB documentation, it is just saying that "2TRACK_in/usb_in can be switch either CONTROL output OR MAIN MIX output" That's nice, I Understand that ! BUT it was not clearly specify in Q802USB that you will have to 'choice' between 2TRACK_in/usb_in OR mixer1/8 for Control Output. See the difference ? Now I Have to use another personnal mixer to "mix" CONTROL ouput AND MAIN MIX output to be able to listen to mixer1/8 AND pre record trackers from 2TRACK_IN/USB_IN...



      I thing you should clearly specify that point on Q802USB documentation that it's not a MATRIX INPUT in CONTROL OUTPUT in order for people like me not to be surprised. I saw clearly specified "matrix inputs for control ouput" in your series but the "small inputs" series are not cleary "NOT MATRIX" specified
      • November 27, 2012
  • OzzyStone
    Contributor - Level 3
    2015-05-15
    It will be great to see in the short future a SoundGrid expansion card that way we can connect to a Soundgrid server and use MultiRack with close to zero Latency without having to buy a Mady Card and a Sound Grid Madi MGO/MGB

    Thoughts?
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    • OzzyStone
      KevinBarr Hopefully with the new firmware and app updates that are supposed to be out in the near future we can get more interest in this.
      • May 15, 2015
    • OzzyStone
      ChaseMcKnight Dear all,



      Please post your MIDAS console feature requests here and I'll ensure they are seen by our Research & Development team. This thread can serve as a repository for both PRO Series and M32 requests.
      • May 19, 2015
    • OzzyStone
      DawidKlein Hi,



      TC Electronic effects implementation and GEQ for each BUS are higly appreciated



      KR

      dawid
      • May 24, 2015
    • OzzyStone
      RyanHammond I was wondering... does the PRO series have any factory presets for gates and compression?
      • May 26, 2015
    • OzzyStone
      RaimondStijnman M32 Edit program full screen.
      • June 1, 2015
  • PhilSmith
    Contributor - Level 2
    2015-07-18
    Hello World!
    Following on from discussions here:
    http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?7831-Xtouch-mini-on-Thomann

    My goal is to be able to have full control the XR18 from a midi controller without having to rely on a PC as a middle man. This program is also available on R Pi but I cant get mine working at the moment so Ive just been doing it on PC.
    At present midi is severely limited do just doing scene change,fader, pans and mutes. OSC has full capability of controlling all parameters within the mixer.

    Ive had some success with a program called Pure Data Extended

    https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended

    I followed a walkthrough for the x32 here

    http://haytech.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/programming-with-pure-data-and-open.html

    And downloaded a script for Pure Data from the reaper forums here - first post attached files

    http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=97255

    Then with some tinkering and trial and error I manged to get my midi controller to map to osc and talk to the Xr18 through usb OSC.


    Things I still need to discover:
    How to change midi channels
    How to loop back for updating the controller if I buy a BCR/BCF (the reaper forum file above seems to do this already)


    Here is the file I created, I mapped midi channel 1 cc 0 to tell the xr18 to move fader one.


    http://www.filedropper.com/xr18channel1fadermidi-oscpuredata



    Edit: link here for instructions.
    https://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?7995-Pure-Data-midi-to-OSC&p=58314&viewfull=1#post58314
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    • PhilSmith
      PhilSmith Ive just been looking for the OSC command for mic gain but cant seem to find it. Please dont tell me you cant change that with OSC??
      • July 18, 2015
    • PhilSmith
      PhilSmith I found out how to change midi channels, you can add an extra number after the cc to define midi channel



      ctlin 0 2



      means cc 0 channel 2
      • July 18, 2015
    • PhilSmith
      PhilSmith Ive been looking into receiving messages from the xr18 and cant get it to work.

      It may have something to do with ports on the xr18



      Ive found this by Dennis Engdahl which may be of relevance:



      "The X32 responds to commands by sending the response to the IP and port

      from which it received the command. These are the problems with the

      present approach which my routine solves:





      1. The from port used while sending a command is assigned by the

      system, and is not reported to the user. Therefore, the user has no way

      to set up a listener on that port to receive the X32's response.





      2. Even if we modify the existing routines to allow the user to specify

      the from port, after doing so, the same port cannot be used again to set

      up udpreceive. The system returns an in use error when trying to do so.

      In Winsock, the from IP, from port, to IP, and to port must be

      unique for a connection to be set up. Since the user is specifying the

      from port, to IP, and to port, and since the from IP is static,

      only one connection can be set up at a time. Both udpsend and udpreceive

      try to set up a connection. If the from port is static, the second

      connection fails.





      My routine allows the setting of the from port. Then, my routine only

      sets up one connection, and sends and receives on that one connection.

      Since the user is specifying the from port, more than one connection can

      be established (by more than one patch) by specifying different (known)

      ports (see the help page for my routine.)"







      I found it here

      https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]&q=subject:%22%5BPD-dev%5D+Requesting+SVN+commit+access%22&o=newest&f=1



      And also a post on the x32 forum from him.

      http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?3085-Puredata-Utility



      I know somethings need to change as the xr18 is on port 10024, but I dont understand his Pure Data program or how to adapt it into mine.
      • July 18, 2015
    • PhilSmith
      DaveMeadowcroft

      Phil Smith;54779 wrote:

      Ive just been looking for the OSC command for mic gain but cant seem to find it. Please dont tell me you cant change that with OSC??




      Hi Phil,



      For channel 1 it's:

      /headamp/01/gain

      Change channel number as needed. It's a 'Linear float' between 0.0 and 1.0, from -12 to 60 in 0.5 increments.



      Any parameter can be controlled by MIDI directly without using OSC but you have to send SysEx beyond faders, mutes and pans.
      • July 18, 2015
    • PhilSmith
      PhilSmith Cheers Dave, I knew it must be possible because the android app can change it but was looking through Pauls list in his app and missed it, expected it to be under /ch.



      Ive experimented with midi through sysex but given up as I think its only useful for oneshot kind of settings like phantom on. Anything that might be variable like headamp gain would be a nightmare to send via sysex as far as I can see.



      This pure data program is fun and I dont need to think about sysex, it just maps whatever straightforward midi cc I want to any OSC command I want. Any midi controller can be programmed to control the XR via this program. Im going to try and make a bigger diagram with 16 channels, gains and some EQ.





      Now I just need to convince my pi to boot I could try Pure Data on that and hopefully have physical wired control without a PC.
      • July 19, 2015
  • Taavi
    Contributor - Level 2
    2013-07-16
    So finally LogicPro X has come out. And it doesn't have 32bit Audio Unit Bridge anymore. Which means that for using Powercore one must have LogicPro9 or earlier.
    Which means that Powercore is now thing of a past.
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    • Taavi
      cowudders there will be extra bridges and there's is one that seems to work very well, it's just a bit on the expensive side:

      http://www.viennaensemblepro.com/
      • July 16, 2013
    • Taavi
      KRISTOPORTO go kick they give us, could have a last effort tc equipment and manufacture the 64-bit version for mac, windos has support ! and mac no support 64 Why? some bought plugins new, with the offer emitted by tc makes some weeks

      we do with the plugins purchased !!!
      • July 16, 2013
    • Taavi
      refinery we all knew this was coming.



      personally, ive tested Powercore on a developer preview of 10.9. With the exception of a few plugins, Logic 9 and powercore still work perfectly fine.



      i got tired of always chasing the perpetual upgrade cycle. i realized i spent more time making stuff work, than actually working on music. since i stopped doing that i find i enjoy working on music a lot more, instead of having to spend hours on forums getting pissed off trying to make stuff work only to find out the developer (has gone out of business/isnt supporting the product/cant make it work/documentation-support sucks/etc. etc. etc)



      sure it sucks, but we all knew this was going to happen eventually. no point complaining now.
      • July 16, 2013
    • Taavi
      dj_kit tc please! 64 bit plugins for logic x!
      • July 16, 2013
    • Taavi
      Taavi

      refinery wrote:

      i got tired of always chasing the perpetual upgrade cycle. i realized i spent more time making stuff work, than actually working on music. since i stopped doing that i find i enjoy working on music a lot more, instead of having to spend hours on forums getting pissed off trying to make stuff work only to find out the developer (has gone out of business/isnt supporting the product/cant make it work/documentation-support sucks/etc. etc. etc)



      sure it sucks, but we all knew this was going to happen eventually. no point complaining now.




      Well, in case of new Logic there are just so many new things that I personally have missed a lot in Logic (midi fx). New possibilities are always good when making music. It all started from cutting magnetic tape and if we wouldn't have moved forward we'd spend huge amount of time on primitive things.
      • July 16, 2013
  • JohnMilner
    Super Contributor - Level 2
    2016-05-13
    For anyone who might be interested, the X Air FMP Remote App for iPhone and iPad is available in the App Store:




    The App permits remote control of Faders, Mutes and Pans in the X Air series of consoles, on both iPhone and iPad.
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    • JohnMilner
      DaveMeadowcroft Hi John,



      Have you considered releasing demo versions of your apps? This FMP app looks interesting but I'm reluctant to pay £6.99 for any app without trying it first to see what benefits it brings over the manufacturer provided free apps.
      • May 13, 2016
    • JohnMilner
      MarkMel What about the buses? Can it control individual monitor buses? Everyone in my band has an iPhone and it would be great if they could control their mixes from their phone.
      • May 13, 2016
    • JohnMilner
      RonKimball Can you "lock" it to a particular monitor mix? Looks awesome but needs a much better description. If it was a buck or two I'd definitely buy it just to check it out - 9 bucks is kinda steep IMO.
      • May 13, 2016
    • JohnMilner
      MarkMel Ha, with the cash I've laid out for our bands PA upgrade, they can spend $9 to control their monitor mixes. If this does that?
      • May 13, 2016
    • JohnMilner
      GerenMortensen_

      Mark Mel;76156 wrote:

      Ha, with the cash I've laid out for our bands PA upgrade, they can spend $9 to control their monitor mixes. If this does that?




      Unfortunately, that's $9 per phone/pad, if you're iTunes account is not active on all the devices.
      • May 13, 2016
  • radioactivetoy
    Contributor - Level 2
    2013-07-09
    Apple is soon going to release the next version of OS X. Are you working on OS X 10.9. compatibility already, or is it going to take almost an entire year for you to publish a stable release, like what happened with previous OS X versions? The developer preview is available for developers already, so that should be no problem.

    Other manufacturers, like RME, have working drivers for owners of their audio interfaces almost immediately after new OS X releases.
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    • radioactivetoy
      biochill Any update on this, TC? I'm sure some people want to know, now that OS X Mavericks is out for free.
      • October 22, 2013
    • radioactivetoy
      Fiber Drivers don't need an update for Mavericks.

      Current one works just fine under it (been testing it for almost 2 hours).
      • October 22, 2013
    • radioactivetoy
      bluesholyman Drivers for which device(s). I have Desktop Konnect 6 and it took a while to get drivers after the last upgrade. Hopefully this time will be quicker.
      • October 23, 2013
    • radioactivetoy
      matyas

      Fiber wrote:

      Drivers don't need an update for Mavericks.

      Current one works just fine under it (been testing it for almost 2 hours).




      What's your configuration (machine, RAM, software)? Do the plugins work?
      • October 23, 2013
    • radioactivetoy
      bluesholyman Mac Mini Server, OS X 10.8.5, Logic 9 Express, 4G ram, Desktop Konnect 6



      Everything works fine right now and am about to start a project - as much as I'd like to get the latest OS, I want to make sure it will all still work before upgrading. Haven't upgraded yet.
      • October 23, 2013
  • JohanKusmanto
    Contributor - Level 1
    2016-11-28
    Does anyone has vocal preset for XR18? Thanks
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    • JohanKusmanto
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Johan,



      Welcome to the forum. Michael Moore has compiled a number of presets that many of us have compiled from X32 presets (or made ourselves) into a categorized package. Here is the link http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?10578-Categorised-Presets
      • November 27, 2016
    • JohanKusmanto
      RyanHammond I find it easier just to build one. I used to be a big preset guy until I discovered that I was making so many alterations to the presets, it would've been better to start from scratch. Every mic and person is different lol.



      A quick preset would be



      1. Gain: just enough to get the nominal value blinking first yellow

      2. Comp: insert LA-2A (Leisure comp) on money channel vox (100% wet, peak reduction as needed)

      3. EQ: SM58 (most widely used mic) HPF at 100 to 140Hz, high shelf boost at 3dB, some low mid cut and some upper mid cut if needed

      4, Put some subtle hall verb on there (-20dB is good) and use some delay for effect at key points in the music (mute when not in use)

      5. If you need a gate, those are a bit more tricky, but I would use an expander rather than a gate if I really needed to. In general, I would only gate the drums and perhaps the guitars if really needed.
      • November 28, 2016
    • JohanKusmanto
      AnthonyBradley I recently purchase the XR18 for a two piece vocal setup and ease of use of course...

      rather than lug around a lot of equipment I installed everything into

      A rackmount case, lift the lid, plug in and ready to go! Then my disappointment!! The vocals!! I played round with this for 3 weeks before attempting to bring it

      Out in a gig! I'm using backing tracks but vocals are live! Naturally the tracks are already treated sound so that was easy enough but getting the vocals right is a nightmare! And yes! I do know how to eq in order to get a good vocal sound.. I've been using analogue desk for 29 years and I've tried digits before but keep coming back to analogue!! Anyways, to put it to the test I setup a studiomaster powerhouse horizon 1200 side by side and the power, present and punch of the vocals on the studiomaster was far ahead of the new XR18! There simply was no comparison!! After all the hype about the preamps etc on the XR18 I'm just lost for words! I welcome anyone on here to prove me wrong as it has cost me a lot of time, effort and expense!! Perhaps someone has a particular vocal scene saved that can justify this piece of equipment? Because there is no way I can get close to the belt and presence using a simple analogue desk! I'd need to get a separate preamp to get that sound but then it just proves that these units are not what they claim! Oh I'm using 4 turbosound IQ15s... please! Anybody! Prove me wrong!! And send me a decent vocal setup for the XR18
      • April 10, 2017
    • JohanKusmanto
      ZackBoupha It is how you apply the effects. I am having same problem for almost a year until i got help from the members and lots of looking at other's scene and reading. There's lots of upload video from members perform live that sound awesome with this mixer. You might want to upload your scene and have others look at how you apply the effects.

      I found this works best for me: Vintage room, hall reverb, Stereo delay, stereo combinator (insert to Main L/R). Don't insert other effects. Instead send each amount of effects under SENDS tab to your liking.

      I believe the horrible sound you mention because you are not getting mix delay and reverb, instead you insert a single effect into the vocal channel. This happened to me before, but i could be wrong on your part.
      • April 12, 2017
    • JohanKusmanto
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Anthony,



      Welcome to the forum. I agree with Zach that the best thing to do would be to upload your scene file (Upload Attachments below) so that we can have a look and make suggestions. This is the first time I've see or heard of someone having a nightmare with vocals with either the X-Air or X32 consoles. Before you write off the XR18, give us a chance to try and figure it out with you.
      • April 12, 2017
  • rhythminmind
    Contributor - Level 2
    2007-12-06
    My main Volume knob no longer lowers the right channel volume of my main output (or head phones). It controls the left fine. But with the Volume all the way down the right channel is still about 60%. Hardware defect?
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    • rhythminmind
      Fabrice Exactly the same problem here, I'm sending the unit back to TC, I suspect a hardware failure, though I'm on a mac and I also had ots of kernel panic and sound saturation...

      very disapointed by this product was expecting a lot ! oh well ,has someone here about the focusrite safire?
      • December 7, 2007
    • rhythminmind
      rhythminmind Well i think this is more complicated then it seems.. This unit was working fine for the few months i have had it. Then this issue popped up.. I installed the 2.00 beta driver for PC and it has mostly fixed itself.. when i bring the volume all the way down the right channel is about 1% up (if that makes sense). I think it always responded like that. As soon as i raise the vol up a hair it evens out. I figure that was just the response of an analog pot. But now that i have seen the other problem it seems it's a digital controlled volume. So we need some clarification from TC. Come on guys i wrote up a support ticket for this a few days ago. what is your take on this?
      • December 7, 2007
    • rhythminmind
      stereomax I'm experiencing a similar behaviour: when lowering the volume a lot (I have a rather small home studio but rather loud monitors) the right channel drops out while the left channel is still clearly audible. I thought of a problem with the analog volume pot also but reading your post and thinking of it (it's nor that difficult to built a stereo pot, isn't it?) it seems part of the serious software defects of this unit...
      • December 8, 2007
    • rhythminmind
      pg I just got the same problem.. And the irony here is that I'm using a REPLACEMENT unit that was given to replace my first unit with exactly the same problem of main volume knob!

      Unfortunately, most likely this replacement unit right now is not going to be covered by the warranty (it was given as replacement last winter).

      The symptoms are not as bad as last time (yet) - when the right channel was simply unbearably loud. This time the problem is that main volume knob just doesn't seem to decrease volume of the right channel to the state of complete silence.. It's unlikely that it's NOT a hardware issue....
      • December 16, 2007
    • rhythminmind
      rhythminmind I think i figured it out!

      With my unit it is a bug when using the ch 1/2 on rear inputs. whenever i activate these inputs from the front panel the right channel VOL Knob problem appears.. Can you guys test this out and let me know what happens in your setup..
      • December 27, 2007
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