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  • RichardGibson
    Contributor - Level 2
    2017-04-08
    This thread is to be exclusively about the promised X32 expansion board for 32 track recording to SD Card, as announced by Uli Behringer on 27 Dec 2016.

    I would remind all posters to be very careful not to inadvertently break any forum rules in what they write - keep it on topic and polite - because a previous thread on this topic has just been closed by a forum moderator who didn't like what he read there.

    If we break no rules, this thread will be allowed to stay open.

    The SD recording card expansion board is obviously a hot topic, as that previous thread was only one week old and already attracted 1,226 views by interested X32 owners and /or potential customers here.

    If anybody had any technical specs, product information, price, availability or other news about this expansion board, please share it here.

    Thank you very much, folks.
    Have a nice day.
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    • RichardGibson
      ScottBolt I check back regularly since multi-track direct to SD has been my single largest request for a new feature



      Some of the things I am really hoping to see:



      [LIST=1]


    • Integration with all current remote applications

    • Integration with console (although I don't have one, I know this will be a big plus for all those who do

    • A slick naming and directory system (ie, name the recording, it makes a new folder complete with all tracks (tracks should be named by the scribble strip name). The automatic name generated should be the date/time for those that don't want to poke in a specific name so you can just hit "OK" and record

    • One-touch flip from real inputs, to virtual inpus for fast playback. This would require some kind of setup to determine which input banks are switched when you hit the button.

    • Retain the USB 32x32 capability of the existing card (although honestly, if the system is good, I would never use it again, so this is lower on my personal priority list)

    • (This is a big one) Ability to play MP3's from play lists (and the ability to create those play lists remotely, or from the console)


      Apart from the basic ability to record to SD, the real differentiator here is going to be how well the work flow operates and how well the remote applications work with this new feature.

      Behringer has done such a good job with this product so far, I can't imagine that this card is not going to be a real treat to use.

      If these things can be accomplished, I would simply be elated.
      • April 8, 2017
  • RichardGibson
    RaphaelBecker-F Regardless of the release date - for the european people the Cymatic card is now availbale for 229€ as B-Stock at Thomann. For that price, you can't go wrong with hat one either.
    • April 8, 2017
  • RichardGibson
    LucHenrion The big difference though is USB stick/drive vs SD card. I much prefer the second for several reasons: an SD card is almost invisible (= not breakable) when inserted, and is more reliable in terms of writing speed - provided you choose the right one of course: a "class 10" should be 100% safe. If it can record 4K videos, it should be able to record 32 x 24 bit tracks with ease.



    But I would also be happy if the USB 32 x 32 interface will be kept as on the Cymatic: when you're paid to capture live performances, a complete back-up recording system is never too much.

    Just my 2 cents. And yes, I would be VERY happy if Behringer could give us more infos like the one I'm talking about above...
    • April 8, 2017
  • RichardGibson
    RaphaelBecker-F Luc, this is totally up to personal preferrance. We all know about the benefits of SD card vs USB Stick. Then again you could say a good ssd harddrive will be of superior quality to any SD card and be considered the more professional medium by the recoding guys. So thats a draw.



    What I was tying to say:



    The Cymatic card can be bought NOW and at the given price, it can be considered a fact that it will be considerably less expensive than the Behringer offering. So even if you find the SD version more ideal - thats always personal preferrance - but you need something now....NOW is the time to get a cymatic.
    • April 8, 2017
  • RichardGibson
    RichardYClark

    But I would also be happy if the USB 32 x 32 interface will be kept as on the Cymatic: when you're paid to capture live performances, a complete back-up recording system is never too much.




    But with the Cymatic card you can only do one or the other, not both at once. So, unfortunately, you can't run a backup recording on a laptop via USB at the same time as recording to the plug in hard drive.
    • April 9, 2017
  • OzzyStone
    Contributor - Level 3
    2015-05-15
    It will be great to see in the short future a SoundGrid expansion card that way we can connect to a Soundgrid server and use MultiRack with close to zero Latency without having to buy a Mady Card and a Sound Grid Madi MGO/MGB

    Thoughts?
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    • OzzyStone
      KevinBarr Hopefully with the new firmware and app updates that are supposed to be out in the near future we can get more interest in this.
      • May 15, 2015
    • OzzyStone
      ChaseMcKnight Dear all,



      Please post your MIDAS console feature requests here and I'll ensure they are seen by our Research & Development team. This thread can serve as a repository for both PRO Series and M32 requests.
      • May 19, 2015
    • OzzyStone
      DawidKlein Hi,



      TC Electronic effects implementation and GEQ for each BUS are higly appreciated



      KR

      dawid
      • May 24, 2015
    • OzzyStone
      RyanHammond I was wondering... does the PRO series have any factory presets for gates and compression?
      • May 26, 2015
    • OzzyStone
      RaimondStijnman M32 Edit program full screen.
      • June 1, 2015
  • PhilSmith
    Contributor - Level 2
    2015-07-18
    Hello World!
    Following on from discussions here:
    http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?7831-Xtouch-mini-on-Thomann

    My goal is to be able to have full control the XR18 from a midi controller without having to rely on a PC as a middle man. This program is also available on R Pi but I cant get mine working at the moment so Ive just been doing it on PC.
    At present midi is severely limited do just doing scene change,fader, pans and mutes. OSC has full capability of controlling all parameters within the mixer.

    Ive had some success with a program called Pure Data Extended

    https://puredata.info/downloads/pd-extended

    I followed a walkthrough for the x32 here

    http://haytech.blogspot.co.uk/2013/05/programming-with-pure-data-and-open.html

    And downloaded a script for Pure Data from the reaper forums here - first post attached files

    http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=97255

    Then with some tinkering and trial and error I manged to get my midi controller to map to osc and talk to the Xr18 through usb OSC.


    Things I still need to discover:
    How to change midi channels
    How to loop back for updating the controller if I buy a BCR/BCF (the reaper forum file above seems to do this already)


    Here is the file I created, I mapped midi channel 1 cc 0 to tell the xr18 to move fader one.


    http://www.filedropper.com/xr18channel1fadermidi-oscpuredata



    Edit: link here for instructions.
    https://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?7995-Pure-Data-midi-to-OSC&p=58314&viewfull=1#post58314
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    • PhilSmith
      PhilSmith Ive just been looking for the OSC command for mic gain but cant seem to find it. Please dont tell me you cant change that with OSC??
      • July 18, 2015
    • PhilSmith
      PhilSmith I found out how to change midi channels, you can add an extra number after the cc to define midi channel



      ctlin 0 2



      means cc 0 channel 2
      • July 18, 2015
    • PhilSmith
      PhilSmith Ive been looking into receiving messages from the xr18 and cant get it to work.

      It may have something to do with ports on the xr18



      Ive found this by Dennis Engdahl which may be of relevance:



      "The X32 responds to commands by sending the response to the IP and port

      from which it received the command. These are the problems with the

      present approach which my routine solves:





      1. The from port used while sending a command is assigned by the

      system, and is not reported to the user. Therefore, the user has no way

      to set up a listener on that port to receive the X32's response.





      2. Even if we modify the existing routines to allow the user to specify

      the from port, after doing so, the same port cannot be used again to set

      up udpreceive. The system returns an in use error when trying to do so.

      In Winsock, the from IP, from port, to IP, and to port must be

      unique for a connection to be set up. Since the user is specifying the

      from port, to IP, and to port, and since the from IP is static,

      only one connection can be set up at a time. Both udpsend and udpreceive

      try to set up a connection. If the from port is static, the second

      connection fails.





      My routine allows the setting of the from port. Then, my routine only

      sets up one connection, and sends and receives on that one connection.

      Since the user is specifying the from port, more than one connection can

      be established (by more than one patch) by specifying different (known)

      ports (see the help page for my routine.)"







      I found it here

      https://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]&q=subject:%22%5BPD-dev%5D+Requesting+SVN+commit+access%22&o=newest&f=1



      And also a post on the x32 forum from him.

      http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?3085-Puredata-Utility



      I know somethings need to change as the xr18 is on port 10024, but I dont understand his Pure Data program or how to adapt it into mine.
      • July 18, 2015
    • PhilSmith
      DaveMeadowcroft

      Phil Smith;54779 wrote:

      Ive just been looking for the OSC command for mic gain but cant seem to find it. Please dont tell me you cant change that with OSC??




      Hi Phil,



      For channel 1 it's:

      /headamp/01/gain

      Change channel number as needed. It's a 'Linear float' between 0.0 and 1.0, from -12 to 60 in 0.5 increments.



      Any parameter can be controlled by MIDI directly without using OSC but you have to send SysEx beyond faders, mutes and pans.
      • July 18, 2015
    • PhilSmith
      PhilSmith Cheers Dave, I knew it must be possible because the android app can change it but was looking through Pauls list in his app and missed it, expected it to be under /ch.



      Ive experimented with midi through sysex but given up as I think its only useful for oneshot kind of settings like phantom on. Anything that might be variable like headamp gain would be a nightmare to send via sysex as far as I can see.



      This pure data program is fun and I dont need to think about sysex, it just maps whatever straightforward midi cc I want to any OSC command I want. Any midi controller can be programmed to control the XR via this program. Im going to try and make a bigger diagram with 16 channels, gains and some EQ.





      Now I just need to convince my pi to boot I could try Pure Data on that and hopefully have physical wired control without a PC.
      • July 19, 2015
  • InactiveUser
    Contributor - Level 2
    2012-11-06
    First timer here, so please be candid but patient.

    I just bought a X1204USB (like, today) and started messing around with it. I connected my mp3 player into the 2-track/USB jacks and I can hear it fine with the phones, and the VU meter senses it alright, but I can't record it in the computer!

    Looking around on the Internet (not here) I've found people saying it's normal, with no further explanation. Am I doing something wrong or the 2-track/USB isn't supposed to get recorded? If so, what's its purpose?
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    • InactiveUser
      AndrewLuck There's some logic behind the routing of the x1204USB's 2-Track / USB functionality that will help to understand.



      The first thing you should understand is that you can only play back music via the USB or the 2-track RCA input on that bus. I assume your MP3 player is connected to that RCA input.



      Next, there are two red 2-track/USB buttons for routing the output of the playback through the Main Mix or the Ctrl Room output. One is located in the "Source" box for the Ctrl Room selection. The other is directly about the volume dial for the Headphones/Ctrl room output to the right of that "Source" box.



      When these buttons are pushed in, it allows for playback of the 2-track OR the USB input from your computer. When out, this will allow you to record the signal flowing through the Main Mix output. Assure your Main Mix faders are up and you are receiving a healthy signal.



      The problem this is presenting is that you are not able to playback the 2-track input and record simultaneously.



      There's a simple solution for recording your MP3 player. You should utilize a stereo 1/8" to dual 1/4" cable, to input in one of the stereo channels, such as 5/6 or 7/8.



      Utilizing one of these stereo outputs will allow you to play back through the Main Mix output while the red 2 track / USB button is in the up/off position. (in recording mode) This will allow you to record and playback simultaneously!



      stereo 1/8" to dual 1/4" -> http://tinyurl.com/d6vrxyv
      • November 14, 2012
    • InactiveUser
      InactiveUser Cool. I'll try what you suggested.



      Thanks for your reply!
      • November 19, 2012
    • InactiveUser
      InactiveUser looks like there is no way to have 2tracks(or USB) AND Console on the control output at the same time so ? can't hear already record track + input of mixer while only recording mixer then ?



      Should be specifically note on userGuide coé saying '2 tracks can be switch either on control or main mix' does not mean mixer is disconnected from control while tracks is switched to control.... :'( guess no solution except buying one with matrix input on control output then ?
      • November 26, 2012
    • InactiveUser
      ChrisPainter

      ashofphoenix;1491 wrote:

      looks like there is no way to have 2tracks(or USB) AND Console on the control output at the same time so ? can't hear already record track + input of mixer while only recording mixer then ?



      Should be specifically note on userGuide coé saying '2 tracks can be switch either on control or main mix' does not mean mixer is disconnected from control while tracks is switched to control.... :'( guess no solution except buying one with matrix input on control output then ?




      Ash,



      The 2 track/USB input to the mixer, is the only output that cannot be routed back into the USB to the computer. This is specifically designed to prevent a horrible feedback loop. Typically, you won't want to record the computers output, back into it's input. To record any external source, use any of the inputs, just not the RCA 2 track inputs.



      We hope this helps!
      • November 27, 2012
    • InactiveUser
      InactiveUser I thing you misunderstand me... I don't want to loop back USB/2track From PC to Console and back to PC for recording... I'm just saying that the Q802USB can EITHER send 2TRACK_in/USB_in OR mixer1/8 to CONTROL output but not both at the same time.



      MAIN MIX output of course should and must remain from mixer1/8 ONLY, as it's the output to 2TRACK_inout/usb_out



      But In CONTROL output, I would have like to be able to hear pre record tracks from USB_in/2TRACK_in AND mixer1/8 at the same while MAIN MIX output keeps only mixer 1/8 to 2TRACK_out/USB_out...



      In other world "matrix input to controm output"... IN Q802USB documentation, it is just saying that "2TRACK_in/usb_in can be switch either CONTROL output OR MAIN MIX output" That's nice, I Understand that ! BUT it was not clearly specify in Q802USB that you will have to 'choice' between 2TRACK_in/usb_in OR mixer1/8 for Control Output. See the difference ? Now I Have to use another personnal mixer to "mix" CONTROL ouput AND MAIN MIX output to be able to listen to mixer1/8 AND pre record trackers from 2TRACK_IN/USB_IN...



      I thing you should clearly specify that point on Q802USB documentation that it's not a MATRIX INPUT in CONTROL OUTPUT in order for people like me not to be surprised. I saw clearly specified "matrix inputs for control ouput" in your series but the "small inputs" series are not cleary "NOT MATRIX" specified
      • November 27, 2012
  • JohnDiNicola
    Contributor - Level 2
    2013-03-29
    Hi Everyone,

    The X32 features a comprehensive Scene Management system that allows all parameters and settings to be instantly recalled at the touch of a button. The 100 scenes on the X32 can be imported and exported via USB Stick and parameters can be eliminated from Recall using the SAFE options. In this Tech Talk we will go into detail about how to use the SCENES menu on the X32.

    Scenes vs. Shows: Know The Difference
    Scene - A scene is a single file containing a snapshot of the settings of the X32. When saving a scene, all parameters are ALWAYS saved. Upon recall, you have the options to "Safe", or prevent, certain parts of the scene from being recalled.

    Shows - A Show File contains the 100 scenes that fill the slots of the X32's scene memory. Only a single show file can be loaded on the X32 at a time.
    *NOTE: When recalling a SHOW from USB, ALL scene files on the X32 would be overwritten with the scene files from that show.

    Import / Export from USB:
    The X32 allows you to import and export both individual scenes and entire shows. Individual scenes can be saved to USB directly from the SCENES menu. To export a whole show, or to import a scene or show, press UTILITY while viewing the SCENES menu. You can also Copy, Paste, and Delete Scenes while viewing this UTILITY menu.

    Using XControl for Enhanced Scene Management:
    Aside from easy setup and greater control of your mix, XControl software expands the scene capabilities of the X32.
    There are 2 main benefits to using XControl for Scene Management:
    1. 100 More Scenes: When using XControl as an online editor with the console, you have access to a second page of 100 scenes. This means that while using XControl you have 100 internal scenes labeled “Console” PLUS the 100 scenes labeled “XControl” bringing the total scenes available using XControl to 200.
    2. XControl has the ability to insert a scene between two scenes. This allows you to go back and create a space for a new scene at the beginning of the show without having to move all the following scenes down manually. This is particularly useful for theatre use with the X32.

    Scene Safes:
    As stated earlier, Scene Safes will EXCLUDE that parameter from being recalled. For example, when walking into a new venue that has an X32, you could bring in your USB stick and recall your scene but "safe" the routing so that you would not overwrite that venue's routing configuration.
    This means that if you want to recall ALL parameters, all of these boxes need to be unchecked (not orange).

    Descriptions of Safe Parameters:
    "Home" Screen Scene Safes: The safes on this menu are on a scene-by-scene basis. This means that you need to check the desired safe on each scene you plan to recall individually.

    Routing I/O - All settings in the ROUTING menu
    Output Patch - Only the output pages of the ROUTING menu
    Preamp (HA) - Mic Gain and Phantom Power for inputs
    Configuration - Any recallable settings in the SETUP menu such as link preferences, panning mode, and bus pre-configuration
    Chan Process - Channel Strip processing for INPUT channels (starting with phase flip)
    Mix Buses - Mix Bus "Channel Strip" processing
    Effects - All settings within the EFFECTS page
    Talkback - All settings within the Talkback Settings

    The settings on the following pages are global and will apply no matter which scene is recalled:

    "Param Safe" Screen Scene Safes: Allows you to globally safe certain parameters across all input channels and mix buses. Global console safes such as routing and configuration are also found here. For example, if you choose Preamp (HA), then all mic gains would be safe from recall across all input channels.

    "Chan Safe" Screen Scene Safes: Safes all parameters for a specific Channel, AUX / FX Return, Mix Bus, Matrix, DCA Group. This screen also allows you to individually safe any FX slot. One use for this could be the MC's mic at an event featuring multiple acts. You could safe his channel so that as you move through different scenes his mic would be unaffected, even if the scenes you are recalling have different settings for this input channel.

    A Note About Presets vs. Scenes:
    In addition to Scenes, the X32 also features preset libraries. These "presets" are completely independent of scenes and allow you to save your favorite channel strip, routing, and FX settings. These are really handy because they can be loaded at any time and in any scene. This would allow you to save your favorite vocal EQ or routing setups without having to use a scene slot.


    Things to remember when using Scene Management:
    1. If you want to recall all settings, make sure all safe options are UNCHECKED.
    2. The Safes on the Home Screen are set individually, scene by scene. For global safes, use the “Param Safe” and “Chan Safe” pages.

    The X32 as you can see has great flexibility in Scene Management. We hope this Tech Talk will help you better understand and take advantage of these features. As usual, feel free to post your questions here. We will be back next week with another edition of Tech Talk.

    Best,
    John DiNicola
    Senior Specialist, Product Support
    MUSIC Group
    BEHRINGER
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    • JohnDiNicola
      MichaelBerries Will be great improve a "show load" protection by password, from usb



      It is possible to load a particular scene from a Show saved in a usb stick?
      • March 29, 2013
    • JohnDiNicola
      KlausMock A great benefit would be to save/load the global scene safe configuration to/from usb.

      Maybe this can also be part of the show management so that it can be loaded with the show.



      I also like to see a per-scene option to allow me to recall only the main levels and mute states of the channels.

      Think about this scenario. The first scene should load the initial state of the show, which means everything.

      During the show only the main levels and mute states should be loaded to allow me to do some tweaks on the channel processing which should not be overwritten when the next scene is loaded.
      • March 29, 2013
    • JohnDiNicola
      JohnDiNicola

      Michael Berries;4244 wrote:

      Will be great improve a "show load" protection by password, from usb



      It is possible to load a particular Scene from a Show saved in a usb stick?




      Hi Michael,

      Yes, it is possible to load a particular scene from a "show" saved to USB. When exporting a "show", individual "scene" files are also exported in addition to the "show" file. When viewing the SCENES menu, press UTILITY and you will see the option to import either a Show or Scene.



      Best,

      John DiNicola

      Senior Specialist, Product Support

      MUSIC Group

      BEHRINGER
      • March 31, 2013
    • JohnDiNicola
      MickBerg

      John DiNicola;4269 wrote:

      Hi Michael,

      Yes, it is possible to load a particular scene from a "show" saved to USB. When exporting a "show", individual "scene" files are also exported in addition to the "show" file. When viewing the SCENES menu, press UTILITY and you will see the option to import either a Show or Scene.



      Best,

      John DiNicola

      Senior Specialist, Product Support

      MUSIC Group

      BEHRINGER




      It seems to me that there is a small problem with this, if you want to import just one scene from a particular show. The scenes within a show are titled "my show.001" etc., so you don't know what scene it actually is. Is there a way to see the actual name of the scene?



      Mick Berg.
      • April 8, 2013
    • JohnDiNicola
      JohnDiNicola

      Mick Berg;4410 wrote:

      It seems to me that there is a small problem with this, if you want to import just one scene from a particular show. The scenes within a show are titled "my show.001" etc., so you don't know what scene it actually is. Is there a way to see the actual name of the scene?



      Mick Berg.




      Hi Mick,

      You are correct that the numbers at the end of the file are the only cue you have when loading individual scenes from an exported show. These numbers will correspond to the scene slot that the scene was originally saved in, (.001 - .100). Once you import a scene back onto an empty scene slot on the X32 (or in XControl), the name of the scene will be displayed in that slot. This at least gives you the chance to see the title before actually accidently pressing GO and loading on the wrong scene.



      Best,

      John DiNicola

      Senior Specialist, Product Support

      MUSIC Group

      BEHRINGER
      • April 9, 2013
  • Taavi
    Contributor - Level 2
    2013-07-16
    So finally LogicPro X has come out. And it doesn't have 32bit Audio Unit Bridge anymore. Which means that for using Powercore one must have LogicPro9 or earlier.
    Which means that Powercore is now thing of a past.
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    • Taavi
      cowudders there will be extra bridges and there's is one that seems to work very well, it's just a bit on the expensive side:

      http://www.viennaensemblepro.com/
      • July 16, 2013
    • Taavi
      KRISTOPORTO go kick they give us, could have a last effort tc equipment and manufacture the 64-bit version for mac, windos has support ! and mac no support 64 Why? some bought plugins new, with the offer emitted by tc makes some weeks

      we do with the plugins purchased !!!
      • July 16, 2013
    • Taavi
      refinery we all knew this was coming.



      personally, ive tested Powercore on a developer preview of 10.9. With the exception of a few plugins, Logic 9 and powercore still work perfectly fine.



      i got tired of always chasing the perpetual upgrade cycle. i realized i spent more time making stuff work, than actually working on music. since i stopped doing that i find i enjoy working on music a lot more, instead of having to spend hours on forums getting pissed off trying to make stuff work only to find out the developer (has gone out of business/isnt supporting the product/cant make it work/documentation-support sucks/etc. etc. etc)



      sure it sucks, but we all knew this was going to happen eventually. no point complaining now.
      • July 16, 2013
    • Taavi
      dj_kit tc please! 64 bit plugins for logic x!
      • July 16, 2013
    • Taavi
      Taavi

      refinery wrote:

      i got tired of always chasing the perpetual upgrade cycle. i realized i spent more time making stuff work, than actually working on music. since i stopped doing that i find i enjoy working on music a lot more, instead of having to spend hours on forums getting pissed off trying to make stuff work only to find out the developer (has gone out of business/isnt supporting the product/cant make it work/documentation-support sucks/etc. etc. etc)



      sure it sucks, but we all knew this was going to happen eventually. no point complaining now.




      Well, in case of new Logic there are just so many new things that I personally have missed a lot in Logic (midi fx). New possibilities are always good when making music. It all started from cutting magnetic tape and if we wouldn't have moved forward we'd spend huge amount of time on primitive things.
      • July 16, 2013
  • JohnMilner
    Super Contributor - Level 2
    2016-05-13
    For anyone who might be interested, the X Air FMP Remote App for iPhone and iPad is available in the App Store:




    The App permits remote control of Faders, Mutes and Pans in the X Air series of consoles, on both iPhone and iPad.
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    • JohnMilner
      DaveMeadowcroft Hi John,



      Have you considered releasing demo versions of your apps? This FMP app looks interesting but I'm reluctant to pay £6.99 for any app without trying it first to see what benefits it brings over the manufacturer provided free apps.
      • May 13, 2016
    • JohnMilner
      MarkMel What about the buses? Can it control individual monitor buses? Everyone in my band has an iPhone and it would be great if they could control their mixes from their phone.
      • May 13, 2016
    • JohnMilner
      RonKimball Can you "lock" it to a particular monitor mix? Looks awesome but needs a much better description. If it was a buck or two I'd definitely buy it just to check it out - 9 bucks is kinda steep IMO.
      • May 13, 2016
    • JohnMilner
      MarkMel Ha, with the cash I've laid out for our bands PA upgrade, they can spend $9 to control their monitor mixes. If this does that?
      • May 13, 2016
    • JohnMilner
      GerenMortensen_

      Mark Mel;76156 wrote:

      Ha, with the cash I've laid out for our bands PA upgrade, they can spend $9 to control their monitor mixes. If this does that?




      Unfortunately, that's $9 per phone/pad, if you're iTunes account is not active on all the devices.
      • May 13, 2016
  • radioactivetoy
    Contributor - Level 2
    2013-07-09
    Apple is soon going to release the next version of OS X. Are you working on OS X 10.9. compatibility already, or is it going to take almost an entire year for you to publish a stable release, like what happened with previous OS X versions? The developer preview is available for developers already, so that should be no problem.

    Other manufacturers, like RME, have working drivers for owners of their audio interfaces almost immediately after new OS X releases.
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    • radioactivetoy
      biochill Any update on this, TC? I'm sure some people want to know, now that OS X Mavericks is out for free.
      • October 22, 2013
    • radioactivetoy
      Fiber Drivers don't need an update for Mavericks.

      Current one works just fine under it (been testing it for almost 2 hours).
      • October 22, 2013
    • radioactivetoy
      bluesholyman Drivers for which device(s). I have Desktop Konnect 6 and it took a while to get drivers after the last upgrade. Hopefully this time will be quicker.
      • October 23, 2013
    • radioactivetoy
      matyas

      Fiber wrote:

      Drivers don't need an update for Mavericks.

      Current one works just fine under it (been testing it for almost 2 hours).




      What's your configuration (machine, RAM, software)? Do the plugins work?
      • October 23, 2013
    • radioactivetoy
      bluesholyman Mac Mini Server, OS X 10.8.5, Logic 9 Express, 4G ram, Desktop Konnect 6



      Everything works fine right now and am about to start a project - as much as I'd like to get the latest OS, I want to make sure it will all still work before upgrading. Haven't upgraded yet.
      • October 23, 2013
  • rhythminmind
    Contributor - Level 2
    2007-12-06
    My main Volume knob no longer lowers the right channel volume of my main output (or head phones). It controls the left fine. But with the Volume all the way down the right channel is still about 60%. Hardware defect?
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    • rhythminmind
      Fabrice Exactly the same problem here, I'm sending the unit back to TC, I suspect a hardware failure, though I'm on a mac and I also had ots of kernel panic and sound saturation...

      very disapointed by this product was expecting a lot ! oh well ,has someone here about the focusrite safire?
      • December 7, 2007
    • rhythminmind
      rhythminmind Well i think this is more complicated then it seems.. This unit was working fine for the few months i have had it. Then this issue popped up.. I installed the 2.00 beta driver for PC and it has mostly fixed itself.. when i bring the volume all the way down the right channel is about 1% up (if that makes sense). I think it always responded like that. As soon as i raise the vol up a hair it evens out. I figure that was just the response of an analog pot. But now that i have seen the other problem it seems it's a digital controlled volume. So we need some clarification from TC. Come on guys i wrote up a support ticket for this a few days ago. what is your take on this?
      • December 7, 2007
    • rhythminmind
      stereomax I'm experiencing a similar behaviour: when lowering the volume a lot (I have a rather small home studio but rather loud monitors) the right channel drops out while the left channel is still clearly audible. I thought of a problem with the analog volume pot also but reading your post and thinking of it (it's nor that difficult to built a stereo pot, isn't it?) it seems part of the serious software defects of this unit...
      • December 8, 2007
    • rhythminmind
      pg I just got the same problem.. And the irony here is that I'm using a REPLACEMENT unit that was given to replace my first unit with exactly the same problem of main volume knob!

      Unfortunately, most likely this replacement unit right now is not going to be covered by the warranty (it was given as replacement last winter).

      The symptoms are not as bad as last time (yet) - when the right channel was simply unbearably loud. This time the problem is that main volume knob just doesn't seem to decrease volume of the right channel to the state of complete silence.. It's unlikely that it's NOT a hardware issue....
      • December 16, 2007
    • rhythminmind
      rhythminmind I think i figured it out!

      With my unit it is a bug when using the ch 1/2 on rear inputs. whenever i activate these inputs from the front panel the right channel VOL Knob problem appears.. Can you guys test this out and let me know what happens in your setup..
      • December 27, 2007
  • PhilReed
    Contributor - Level 2
    2015-06-01
    Does the BCF2000 control surface work with the XF18? Seems like this might be a natural paring.
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    • PhilReed
      AbrahamRay Yes, but if someone can help us getting it to work in MCU mode, I would appreciate it. Look for other posts from me to describe how it works and how it doesn't work. I had to program it from the midi implementation chart in the quick start guide.
      • June 1, 2015
    • PhilReed
      AndrewShaw Any device that can send the XR18 MIDI commands can control it using the commands found in the link. This of course includes the FCB. Here is a link to the MIDI commands the XR18 responds to:



      http://behringerwiki.music-group.com/index.php?title=8._MIDI



      Abraham, I wasn't aware that the XR18 or even the X32 responded to Mackie control. I don't see any reference to it on the Wiki either. Could you provide a link?
      • June 1, 2015
    • PhilReed
      AbrahamRay

      Andrew Shaw;51010 wrote:

      Any device that can send the XR18 MIDI commands can control it using the commands found in the link. This of course includes the FCB. Here is a link to the MIDI commands the XR18 responds to:



      http://behringerwiki.music-group.com/index.php?title=8._MIDI



      Abraham, I wasn't aware that the XR18 or even the X32 responded to Mackie control. I don't see any reference to it on the Wiki either. Could you provide a link?




      MIDI In/Out for Live Performance Controllers



      The physical MIDI I/O port on the XR18 mixer can also be used for connecting external MIDI controllers, such as our X-TOUCH or B-CONTROL products, for dynamically controlling channel level, muting and panorama adjustments during your performance. And since the full-featured XR18 also supports the Mackie Control protocol, you easily apply comprehensive remote editing and parameter adjustments via any compatible MIDI devices.



      http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/XR18.aspx
      • June 1, 2015
    • PhilReed
      AbrahamRay

      Abraham Ray;51027 wrote:

      MIDI In/Out for Live Performance Controllers



      The physical MIDI I/O port on the XR18 mixer can also be used for connecting external MIDI controllers, such as our X-TOUCH or B-CONTROL products, for dynamically controlling channel level, muting and panorama adjustments during your performance. And since the full-featured XR18 also supports the Mackie Control protocol, you easily apply comprehensive remote editing and parameter adjustments via any compatible MIDI devices.



      http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/XR18.aspx




      Could someone from Behringer comment on if this is true or not?
      • June 1, 2015
    • PhilReed
      AndrewShaw Not sure if you're aware of this, but it looks like Klaus has gotten the BCF to work with X32:



      http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?7339-X32-Rack-and-BCF2000-not-talking&highlight=Mackie
      • June 1, 2015
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