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  • frankgegna
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-07-12
    Dear engineers, we need to be able to delay the inputs, but above all the outputs of the XAir xr18 .... Could you include this indispensable function in the next firmware update? Thank you!
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    • frankgegna
      DanielPaine I'll pass on the request. It is not implemented simply because of the size of the mixer. It's format suggests applications primarily in smaller rooms where delay requirements are negligible. I agree though. Handy to have if to deploy outside or for larger venues
      • August 7, 2020
    • frankgegna
      ubdrummer Hi, but it's size and format suggests it also in applications like live online streaming - and therefore I need a delay to sync the sound out of the XR18 with the cams. Thanks for passing on this request - I'd like uphold it. Greetings
      • November 13, 2020
    • frankgegna
      DanielPaine It's a valid point. I'll pass to R&D again with that perspective. Many thanks
      • November 13, 2020
      • Delay on Outputs on Behringer X Air xr 18
        ubdrummer Many thanks!
        • November 13, 2020
      • Delay on Outputs on Behringer X Air xr 18
        ubdrummer Hi, maybe there is news or feedback regarding the matter? Thanks a lot! Greetings
        • December 14, 2020
    • frankgegna
      Reznik Thank you for looking into it, I would like to underline the usage of the xr18 in regarding to mobile live streaming setups and the importance to be able to delay in or output: it would together with the integrated usb make to the ultimate mobile audio live stream solution.
      • December 30, 2020
    • frankgegna
      SidTheSoundGuy Product is six years old. Delay on output is trivial to code and implement and should have been there on day 1. I guess when mediocrity is paying the bills there’s no need or desire to strive for excellence. What a missed opportunity - the form factor is appealing.
      • February 3, 2021
  • EddieWettach
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-02-12

    Hi, we are interested in purchasing a Wing, however, are needing Dante and MADI.  A couple of questions regarding this.

    1.  Is there an estimated release date for the Dante card and MADI card?

    2.  It appears that Dante will be in the form of a card that fits within the Wing.  Is this something we have to have installed by Behringer at time of purchase, or can we add the card later ourselves?  This will determine whether we can purchase today or need to wait until a Wing with Dante built-in is released.

    Thanks!

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    • EddieWettach
      KenMitchell

      HI @EddieWettach ,


       


      1. No ETA announced yet. 


       


      2. It is my understanding from hearing Jan Dua discuss it, Dante and SoundGrid will be implemented on internal cards that will be installed at the factory or by an authorized service center.  The internal card would save the external slot for other uses and would share the existing RJ45 ports on the Wing. .  There will also be an external card for Dante, SoundGrid, MADI, etc. that can be isntalled by the user.  Again, haven't seen nor heard a schedule yet. 


       


      Ken

      • February 12, 2020
    • EddieWettach
      GaryHiggins

      @EddieWettach Just a bit of other info. I believe there was a very early on post, right after the Wing release and pre 1.01-either here or on facebook that someone put an XDante card in their wing and it worked-but being only 32 ch's not 48. The USB audio card access is not from the external card slot like with an X32 so I can almost see that it might work with both things not on a single card. I have one not installed at the moment but not so sure I dare try it! Besides this 64 ch Wing-Live card is really awesome! Specially since the new firmware you can now sync both. I think if it were me, I would opt for the user installable version allowing me the option to use either without outside service help. It also makes some sense to me that the user installed Dante card option might come out first but who knows.

      • February 12, 2020
    • EddieWettach
      EddieWettach

      Thanks for the info.  We need both Dante and Madi, so will wait for the internal card as preinstalled to come available. 

      • February 16, 2020
    • EddieWettach
      GaryHiggins

      @EddieWettach Hi Eddie, just happened to watch a recent (Behringer released) Wing video at time 6:04 or so they talk about the Dante external card, sounds like it's first up and very close to release.

      • February 16, 2020
    • EddieWettach
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hey Gary @GaryHiggins , just a remark about that report of someone on FB installing an X-Dante card in the Wing and it working - that is actually impossible, because the X cards are wider than the Wing cards. So its impossible to install, unless it is cut down using a dremel or something.


       

      • February 16, 2020
  • JohnMilner
    Super Contributor - Level 2
    2020-03-04

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    Coming soon - iEQ Pro - which will allow Auto EQ of parametric EQs (as well as GEQs) in the M/X Air and M/X 32 series of consoles.  This App follows on from the other StrongSoft iEQ Apps, but will be able to Auto EQ the following consoles:  X Air, M Air, X32, M32 (and later, the WING).

    Demo video of Auto EQ to parametric EQ of an X Air console 

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    • JohnMilner
      Paul_Vannatto

      This looks great John @JohnMilner. Glad to see that you are still active in supporting our beloved consoles with your apps.


       

      • March 4, 2020
    • JohnMilner
      JohnMilner

      iEQ Pro MX is now available in the App Store.  iEQ Pro Ultimate Bundle is pending approval - this is a means of upgrading from your existing iEQ App to a bundle which includes all the iEQ Apps - at a very reasonable upgrade price - will be available very soon!


      Get iEQ Pro MX in the App Store 


      iEQ Pro MX Demo Video 


      IEQ Pro MX in PEQ ModeIEQ Pro MX in PEQ Mode

      • March 25, 2020
  • tbone11
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-07-22

    Good Morning.  Can anyone please tell me the difference between a Midas M32-IP (older version) and the new Midas M32 Live?  My question really is which one is better?  I do Live sound for corporate, Bands and Djs.  Please advise.  Thanking you all in advance for some guidance......

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    • tbone11
      RexBeckett

      @tbone11 


      Hi TJ, welcome to the forum.


       


      The M32 Live includes the DN32-Live expansion card. This allows recording of up to 32 channels onto SD cards without the need for an attached computer. The DN32-Live also has a USB connector for 32 track record/play to/from a PC. The normal M32 comes with just the DN32-USB multichannel USB interface.


       


      Both packages are equally good for live sound. The SD card record/play can be very useful for performing virtual sound checks.

      • July 22, 2019
    • tbone11
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi @tbone11,


      Just to clarify Rex @RexBeckett, post. The M32-IP is now a discontinued package (IP stands for integrated package) that included the M32 full console with the DN32-USB recording card and a flight case. The M32-Live includes the same M32 full console with the newer DN32-Live recording card (that Rex described), but no flight case included. If you are looking at purchasing new, the M32-Live is the one to purchase. If you find a used M32-IP in good condition and price, that may be the way to go, they purchase the DN32-Live at a later point and install.


       

      • July 22, 2019
    • tbone11
      tbone11

      Hi Paul,  I heard the older version (forget the IP aspect) has 100mm faders which are faster and better and the newer Live version has 80 mm faders and are slower, Is this true?  Paul my real question is which one has better parts such as preamps, faders and most importatly, sound quality?  Or are they equal or is one better than the other?


      Thank you again.

      • July 22, 2019
    • tbone11
      Paul_Vannatto


      @tbone11 wrote:


      Hi Paul,  I heard the older version (forget the IP aspect) has 100mm faders which are faster and better and the newer Live version has 80 mm faders and are slower, Is this true? 


      Never heard that, even as a rumour. Even the X32 has 100mm faders. Must be "fake news"


      Paul my real question is which one has better parts such as preamps, faders and most importatly, sound quality?  Or are they equal or is one better than the other?


      As far as I know both use the identical M32 console - thus exactly the same sound quality. The only difference I know of is the sound card (DN32-USB vs the newer DN-Live) and the added flight case.





       

      • July 22, 2019
    • tbone11
      tbone11

      I heard the older version (forget the IP aspect) has 100mm faders which are faster and better and the newer Live version has 80 mm faders and are slower, Is this true?  Paul my real question is which one has better parts such as preamps, faders and most importatly, sound quality?  Or are they equal or is one better than the other?


      Thank you again.

      • July 22, 2019
  • FrankHarlan
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-28

    Wasn't sure if I neede to post this in the Midas community or the Behringer community...

    I'm just trying to figure out if the DP48 will work with the X32 (I know there is a 16 channel limitation on the Ultranet protocol) with out using a Hub4? Will a P16D power the DP48?

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    • FrankHarlan
      GaryHiggins

      @FrankHarlan I am sure it will work with the X32 if firmware 4.0 is installed. I dont think it will work the P16D as it uses aes50 not the ultranet but I am not 100% sure. They come with a power supply of their own. The Hub sends poe using aes50 somehow but also has other bells and whistles so I'm told.


       


      https://www.midasconsoles.com/Categories/Midas/Signal-Processors/In-Ear-Monitoring/DP48/p/P0BMX/Videos#googtrans(en|en)


       

      • November 28, 2019
    • FrankHarlan
      DaveMorrison

      @FrankHarlan 


      The DP48 is connected to an AES50 bus so can receive 48 channels from the X32, M32, and Wing.


      "Will a P16D power the DP48?" Ultranet and AES50 are two totally different protocols; even if it could provide power it couldn't communicate.

      • November 28, 2019
    • FrankHarlan
      CraigFowler

      The DP48 will work with the X32 (if on fw4+) using the console's (or stagebox's) AES50 sockets.  However without the HUB4 you'll need to use the wallwart power supply to power the DP48s.  This is because the RJ45 AES50 sockets on the console\stageboxes only do the 48x48 audio, whereas the RJ45 Port 1-4 sockets on the HUB4 do 48x48 audio and PoE.

      • November 28, 2019
    • FrankHarlan
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi @FrankHarlan 


      As the others have mentioned, the DP48 connects to the console (X32/M32) using the AES50 protocol not the Ultranet. Like the P16 personal mixers, they can connect directly to the console, but would require the power adapters. The Hub4 is the equivalent to P16D (but on steroids) and can power the DP48 if used in between the console and the DP48.


       


      The DP48 can be used with firmware older than 4.0, since it accepts whatever the AES50 sends it. What would be missing in the older firmware would be the group names and assignments that the new firmware can provide (from the console). But group names can also be implemented using a file (called "names.csv") in the DP48M of the SD card. There is a setting in the Setup that can load the names from this file.


       


      The advantage of the newer 4.0 firmware is that you can assign the group names and input assignments from the console and save configurations in the AES50 library. It also has OSC commands that would support 3rd party apps that could automate this. 


       

      • November 28, 2019
  • JesseWeiss
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-04-30

    Any idea why I couldn't enable phantom power using the XAir Android app last night at practice? I only had my phone, not my laptop, but couldn't enable it on any channel.  Can't even enable it in offline mode!

     

    Thoughts?

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    • JesseWeiss
      RexBeckett

      @JesseWeiss 


      On the Android X-Air app, you have to long-press the +48V button to toggle the phantom power.


       

      • April 29, 2019
    • JesseWeiss
      JesseWeiss Okay I'm really annoyed with myself, and with the fact that Google search didn't bring that up anywhere!
      • April 29, 2019
  • Inveracity
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-09-19

    Heya, I'm considering buying the X32 Rack to build an in-ear monitor rack for my band, I want to know if what I want to do is possible with this mixer.
    Laptop will play backing track and click track
    Bass, Guitar left, Guitar right, Female singer and Male singer will go into XLR inputs 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5
    2 Wireless in-ear sender will be connected to AUX OUT 1 and 2, AUX OUT 1 should have a mix of everything including the click track, but AUX OUT 2 should not receive the click track.
    XLR OUT 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7 should go to Front of House for backing track, instruments and singers for the audio engineer to mix for the audience.
    The drummer will get the Headphones out for a complete mix including click track.
    Finally the drum mix will go back from the audio engineer into the X32 for drum monitoring.

    I'm including a diagram of the rig I'm putting together, I hope it makes sense.
    Is this even possible?
    Thanks

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    • Inveracity
      CraigFowler

      That's possible, with a couple of caveats.


      Firstly, if you're using the console essentially as a splitter to get signals to FOH, FOH will not have any preamp control.  This means that you need to set and forget your preamp gains at the start of the gig; if you start adjusting preamp gains mid-gig, not only will you change your own monitor mixes, you'll also change the level of the signals hitting FOH, which will annoy the FOH engineer.


      Secondly, if you're using the console's headphone out socket for the drummer's IEM, you're essentially sacrificing the console's solo functionality.  No one can solo any signal, or the drummer will get a surprise.  It would be better to run the drummer's headphones off an aux out socket instead, though you will need a headphone amp.


      Thirdly, going by your diagram, you're using the USB interface for a laptop instead of going analogue.  Due to the console's "blocks-of-8" routing limitation, in order to get signals from the laptop (USB) and instruments+vox (preamps) onto the 1 block of 8 XLR outs, you're going to need to tap from channel strips, rather than preamps.  The earliest tap point available for a channel strip is post HPF, so adjustments to the HPF on those channels will affect the signal hitting FOH (as will preamp gain, as discussed earlier.)


      PS, the console has enough buses and output sockets, so if you have enough cables, go stereo for your IEM mixes.  They'll sound clearer, which should mean you can play better.


      PPS, you mention a drum submix return from FOH back to your IEM mixer.  I presume that means you have drum mics sorted and being sent to FOH without using the X32 console.  You've got the inputs available on the console, so if you've got enough cables, try to get a stereo drum mix back; it'll be easier to mix into IEMs.  That said, TBH I'd seriously consider a couple of ART S8s (3-way instead of 2 way so you get both an input and an output on the front) to replace the P16 patchbay.  This way FOH gets preamp control negating caveat1, FOH gets signals straight off preamps instead of channel strips negating caveat#3, and you can mix drums into IEMs locally (instead of relying on a drum mix from FOH,) and you can send those drum sounds to FOH along with the rest of the signals instrument\vox signals.

      • September 19, 2019
    • Inveracity
      Inveracity

      Hey Craig, this is excellent information!

      To your first point, I was hoping that the signals going out to the FOH engineer could have their own levels set and the in-ear-mix coming from the AUX outs could have their own levels, but what I understand of what you're saying is that if I adjust the volume of the Bass, it adjusts the volume of the Bass for both AUX out 1, 2 and XLR out 3?

      Basically the first wireless sender is for our vocalists, and they would like a mix in their in-ears where their vocals are a little louder, the other wireless sender is for the bass player and guitar players where they get emphasis on their instruments, and finally the drummer should get a mix where the click is the loudest.

      The second, regarding the IEM for the drummer using an aux out, that's a good idea, but I assume that's going to be mono?

      Third, tapping from channel strips where the earliest available tap point is post HPF. I think I understand what this means but I'll definitely go read the manual to fully grasp this.

      Fourth, stereo for IEM mixes, I can't believe I didn't think of that. Definitely doing this.

      Fifth, Drum submix. Essentially at every gig we play, the venue provides a drumkit and drum mics and make their own mix that goes back to the stage monitors, we were planning on just getting a feed of that monitor mix directly into the X32 through to our in-ear monitors.

      Sixth, regarding the ART S8 3-way splitter, this is a great idea, it would indeed solve the problems you mention if its not possible to have a set levels going out of the XLR outputs and have different levels going out of the AUX outs. The patchbay was meant to only solve the problem of accessing the outputs easily from the rack. The only issue with this is that it's a lot more expensive and it blows my budget, but if it's absolutely necessary to make this work then I'll pursue it.

      This is incredibly helpful, thanks for taking the time to give so many details, it's much appreciated!

      • September 19, 2019
    • Inveracity
      CraigFowler

      Point1: You can adjust levels in your monitors without affecting the levels at FOH any time you like *provided you use the channel>bus level controls as opposed to the preamp gain control.*


       


      The problem is if you need to adjust preamp levels (gain.) Preamp gain affects the signal coming into the console, before it goes through any processing or to any monitors or outputs for FOH. The preamp gain will affect everything downstream of it (both IEMs and FOH,) *unless* you have a splitter (like the ART S8s I recommended later,) which splits the mic signal before it hits the console's preamps, allowing monitors to use their own preamps without affecting FOH, and FOH to use their own preamps without affecting monitors.


       


      If you don't have a splitter and you need to adjust *preamp* gain (not channel>bus level, but actual preamp gain) mid gig, that's when you could have an issue. If you're fairly consistant throughout the set you can generally set and forget preamps, and you won't have a problem. However if there are big changes to signal levels during or between songs (eg at some stage a guitarist invokes a wah pedal that boosts his signal by +20dB, or perhaps that's the setup you've already gained for and the guitarist then bypasses that pedal so his signal goes really quiet mid-gig,) you're going to want to adjust the preamp gain to accommodate that. If you're using a splitter, you can adjust your own preamps and FOH can adjust theirs without annoying each other. If you don't have a splitter, then FOH has to cope with your adjustments as and when you make them, so you need to communitcate well.


       


      Point2: You can stereo-link the buses on the X32 (in odd\even pairs.) You assign the left bus to one output socket (they're mono TRS balanced) and the right bus to another output socket. You have 6x TRS aux out sockets, so use 1+2 for IEM1, 3+4 for IEM2, and 5+6 for the drummer (he'll probably need a headphone amp.)


       


      Point3: Typically if you're sending a signal to multiple destintions (eg monitors, foh, recording, broadcast etc) you'd want to use the cleanest (as in no processing) signal possible. The means you tap as early in the signal chain as possible. That way each destination can have its own processing appropriate to that destination, and they won't impinge on each other. (Unless you use a splitter) the X32 is built such that if you want to mix different input types (eg USB+preamps) to 2 blocks-of-4 XLR outs (like those on the rear of the X32Rack) you can't tap straight off preamps, instead you have to tap off the channel strips, and the earliest tap point will involve the HPF processing.


       


      You can mix and match though, eg 4 signals could run straight off preamps for 4 XLR outs, and your remaining 3 (2x USB+ 1x preamp) would tap off channelstrips with HPF. The other workaround would be to use the preamp signals only (not the backing tracks from USB) on XLR outs, allowing you to tap straight off preamps for all 5 preamps in use, but then to get backing tracks to FOH you'd have to use the TRS aux outs. However this impinges on your stereo IEMs, unless the drummer goes back to using the headphone socket, but that sacrifices the console's solo ability.


       


      Point5: Fair enough if you're sure every gig you do will have a drum kit + drum mix return from FOH available for you. However as mentioned below, having your own splitters will be more flexible.


       


      Point6: You're correct that the S8s are more expensive (the 2-way ones as opposed to 3-way would be cheaper, but messier in terms of the outputs being at the back.) However using proper analogue splitters will make your setup a lot more flexible (though you will have to tune the drums in your own mixes rather than rely on FOH. You might also have to provide your own drum kit. It really depends on the venue.)


       


      Are you sure you need the feedback destroyer on the vocal mics? The console itself has a fair bit of processing power that you shouldn't need it. Perhaps getting rid of it could offset the cost of the S8s?

      • September 19, 2019
    • Inveracity
      Inveracity

      point1: Aha! The preamp, sorry I didn't catch that at first as you noticed, I understand the issue this presents, but the idea is to put the preamps into the rack at a set level and never have it change essentially, so that should be okay. I see the issue with the guitar pedals, especially when turning a pedal off and on etc, but I think we can work that out hopefully. Eventually I hope to have the Line6 HX Stomp boxes change presets on Midi trigger events from the laptop.

      Point2: Cool with the stereo linking, this all makes perfect sense!

      Point3: Let each destination have its own processing, gotcha. 
      Thanks for all the details on this, it's all very new to me so I'll research all this based on the details you've provided here, there's a lot to learn here!

      Point 5 and 6: I'm very hooked on the idea of the S8 3-way splitter, it looks like it's the best option, so I'll try and work that in. The feedback destroyer is a unit we already own in the band, so I figured we'd use it either way. And regarding the drums, in the event that we can't get a feed from the FOH mix for the drums, my idea is to put a microphone near the drumkit and hope for the best, or simply rely on the drums going to stage monitors.

      Thanks a lot for all this information, you're a hero for taking the time to answer all these question, this has been extremely informative, all that's left to do now is order the whole lot and get to work
      I'm sure I'll be back with more questions once I start digging into setting all this up!

      • September 20, 2019
    • Inveracity
      CraigFowler

      Edit:


      Addition to point3: Another workaround is to have the one preamp feed multiple channels (a "virtual y-split,") given you've got so many spare.



      eg Bass feeds preamp1, preamp1 feeds ch1, ch1 has 0 processing and a DirectOut (post HPF) is sent to FOH. Preamp1 also feeds ch2, and you can dial in whatever processing makes the bass sound good in your monitors. This means you can not engage the HPF on ch1 and give FOH an essentially clean signal, but you can tune the HPF on ch2 to suit your IEMs without changing the signal being sent to FOH.


       


      In fact, given how many spare channels you've got and how few inputs you're using, depending on how involved people wanted to get in mixing monitors, you could y-split everything multiple times. Ch1-8 only feeds IEM1, and has processing that suits IEM1, ch9-16 only feeds IEM2 with processing that suits IEM2, ch17-24 only feeds the drummer's IEMs, ch25-32 is direct outs for FOH with 0 process so FOH gets a clean signal.


       


      Yeah... you have a lot of options.

      • September 20, 2019
  • Davidkiim
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-09-09

    Hello!

    I recently tried to connect my X32 to the wireless router and realized that the router is not “seeing” the mixer. By not “seeing” the mixer, I mean that when I look in the router page (by logging into the router website) it shows all other connected devices except the X32. I tried everything I found in forums with no luck at all. I also noticed that one of the yellow/orange(?) lights that indicates ethernet cable connection is on even when I don’t have a cable connected to it. The only thing I can think of is that the ethernet jack no longer works. Has anyone seen this problem before? If so, how can I fix this? If it’s broken, is it even fixable (by non professionals)? Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance!

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    • Davidkiim
      garyh

      To me it sounds a bit suspect regarding the led being lit without cable connection, however I would try re initializing the board, maybe even reload the latest firmware if you have not done either yet. No harm at this point in doing that. Odd chance of a digital ghost. Gut feeling is the port is broken, should be fixable though.

      • September 9, 2019
    • Davidkiim
      Davidkiim

      Yeah, I have tried re-intitializing it, I have installed the latest firmware (3.11?), and still no luck. Do you know if it’s just a spare part I can order and replace? Or would I have to take it in somewhere?

      • September 9, 2019
    • Davidkiim
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi David @Davidkiim,


      Have you checked the IP address in the X32 (Setup, network) and the router? The first 3 digits have to be identical and the last one has to be unique. Or enable the DHCP (encoder 1) to have the X32 get its IP from the router.

      • September 9, 2019
    • Davidkiim
      Davidkiim

      Hi Paul, @Paul_Vannatto 


      yes, I have checked the IP addresses, and everything checks out. Router ip on “gateway”, and identical ip for the first row except the last number. Tried the DHCP option with no luck. Is the light supposed to be on even when there is no ethernet cable connected? Also, is the other light supposed to come one at some point? (There are two lights, one on each side of the ethernet jack). Only one is constantly on and the other one never turns on.

      • September 9, 2019
    • Davidkiim
      Paul_Vannatto


      @Davidkiim wrote:


      Is the light supposed to be on even when there is no ethernet cable connected? Also, is the other light supposed to come one at some point? (There are two lights, one on each side of the ethernet jack). Only one is constantly on and the other one never turns on.





      The orange light should flicker as it receives/sends data, but should not be on when no ethernet is connected. Are you certain you have it plugged into the ethernet, not the Ultranet? (been there, done that)

      • September 9, 2019
  • Ralis
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-11-19

    I was going to purchase an XR18 as a mixer/interface to use with my IPad Pro. Then I noticed the App has not been updated in 2 years!

    After some research I have seen reports that it does not work with iPadOS (ios13) 

    this would make it a very expensive paperweight had I bought it. 

    Has this been discontinued? Will you still support it? Stores are still selling new units.

    If I had not done my due diligence I would have already purchased this. 

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    • Ralis
      DaveMorrison

      @Ralis 


      The XR18 is still supported and one of the best (if not the best) small mixers around. It's so much better than an analog mixer at the same price point.


      While the official iPad app is not yet compatible with iOS13, it's not the only app to control the mixer. While not a free app, "Mixing station" is fully compatible, is much better, and is updated regularly.

      • November 19, 2019
    • Ralis
      Ralis

      WOW!!!!!!


      I sent this same question to technical support and this is their response.


      On Nov 20, 2019, at 8:03 AM, MusicTribe - Care <[email protected]> wrote:



      Technical Support (Case: 01033248)


      Regarding your inquiry: Have you discontinued support.


      Dear Ralis,
      We still support the XR18 from the technical side. In the meantime, you may use either the previous version of iOS to work with the app, or use an Android device to control your unit.



      Thank you again for contacting us. Please let me know if I can be of further assistance by replying to this email. Alternatively please visit our website for support and further information.



      Kind regards


      Ben Douzat
      Specialist, Care



      MUSIC
      Web: www.musictribe.com


      just WOW!


      so I responded


      I do not own an android anything.


      you cannot go back to an earlier iOS, you should know that.


      How about you provide
      Support and update your app to work with the equipment you sell to work as advertised?


       


      Sent from my iPad


      Looks like I will not be buying from Behringer

      • November 21, 2019
    • Ralis
      Wdgreen2004 I need help with my Xr18 I'm not getting sound from my left and right main
      • November 21, 2019
    • Ralis
      Ralis

      So I must conclude that nothing is being done about this due to the lack of response from Behringer. There is definitely a lack of support

      • November 24, 2019
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  • rajprods
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-02-16

    I have a Midas 32R and a Midas DL16.  I have it setup where I can send 16 inputs from the DL16 into the M32R.  I just figured out how to setup 8 Mixbuss channels on the M32R to send signals out of the 8 channels on the DL16 to external monitors.  

    I thought with the DL16, I would have 16 outputs instead of 8 in conjuction with the M32R?  My intent is to setup 16 Mixbuss (Actually 12 since 4 are for effect channels) for monitor mixes for a live band.  This is probably confusion on my part.   For some reason, I was thinking I would have a total of 16 outputs (Minus the 4 for effect busses) to send signals to external monitors for mixes. I would appreciate it if someone can clarify how many outputs I should have to setup.  Thanks.  

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    • rajprods
      Paul_Vannatto


      @rajprods wrote:


      I thought with the DL16, I would have 16 outputs instead of 8 in conjuction with the M32R?   





      You do - 8 XLR outputs on the back of the M32R and 8 XLR outputs on the DL16. I think you are confusing mixbuses with outputs. They are not the same. Mixbuses mix channel signals sent to them (like the Aux sends on an analog console). These mixbuses can be assigned to physical outputs (but do not have to if you are not using them).


       


      The assignments to the physical outputs are done in the Routing section and the appropriate screens (eg. XLR Out for the XLR outputs on the back of the console, and AES50 A for the stagebox connected to the AES50 A port on the back of the console). These assignments are in blocks (of 4 for XLR Out and 8 for AES50). Therefore you have to stage the individual outputs using Out 1-16, Aux Out or Ultranet screens, then assign those blocks to the physical outputs.


       

      • February 16, 2020
    • rajprods
      rajprods

      Yes, I am definitely confused!  However, I do understand what you are saying about mix buss versus outputs.  I'm just not clear on how to setup 8 from the board AND setup 8 separate outputs from the DL16.  


      On the XLR tab, I have 1-4 setup as:  Output 1-4.  5-8 is setup as:  Output 5-8.  


      On the AES A tab, I'm only getting sound from the DL16 if 1-8 is setup as: Output 1-8.   


      On the Out tab, Outputs 1 - 8 are setup as Mix Buss, Mix Buss 1-16, Post Fader.  Note:  Outputs 9-16 are labeled as *This output is currently not assigned to any local analog output connect.  Please check the XLR tab.

      • February 16, 2020
    • rajprods
      Paul_Vannatto


      @rajprods wrote:


      I'm just not clear on how to setup 8 from the board AND setup 8 separate outputs from the DL16.  


      On the XLR tab, I have 1-4 setup as:  Output 1-4.  5-8 is setup as:  Output 5-8.  


      On the AES A tab, I'm only getting sound from the DL16 if 1-8 is setup as: Output 1-8.   





      Change the latter (AES50 A tab) first bank (1-8) to Output 9-16


       




      Note:  Outputs 9-16 are labeled as *This output is currently not assigned to any local analog output connect.  Please check the XLR tab.



      Please just ignore that. I told them when they introduced that statement in firmware 2.0 it would confuse users - guess I was right. It means that since the MR32R only has 8 physical XLR outputs, the outputs 9-16 are not connected to them (since outputs 1-8 are). 


       

      • February 16, 2020
    • rajprods
      rajprods

      Okay, if I'm understanding this correctly.  From XLR Outputs 1- 8 on the M32R, I'm only able to use 1- 6 as 7/8 as Main Left/Main are set as stereo buss signals which are currently going to my studio monitors.  So, the 6 XLR Outputs on the M32R plus the 8 XLR outputs on the DL16 can be sent out for monitor mixes?


      I know I am still confused a bit about mix buss versus outputs.  The XLR tab shows Output Patch Overview as Mixbuss 1 through Mixbuss 8 as Post Fader.  So, while I'm seeing 8 XLR outputs on the XLR tab, I'm still confused why this is not adding up to a total of 16 XLR outputs between the M32R and DL16.  Sorry, my brain is just not comprehending this at the moment.  

      • February 16, 2020
    • rajprods
      Paul_Vannatto


      @rajprods wrote:


      Okay, if I'm understanding this correctly.  From XLR Outputs 1- 8 on the M32R, I'm only able to use 1- 6 as 7/8 as Main Left/Main are set as stereo buss signals which are currently going to my studio monitors.  So, the 6 XLR Outputs on the M32R plus the 8 XLR outputs on the DL16 can be sent out for monitor mixes?  





      That would be correct. The screen of Routing, XLR Out is what is assigned to the 8 XLR output jacks on the back of the M32. If you are using outputs 7/8 for the Main LR, then outputs 1-6 can be used for mixbuses.


       




      I know I am still confused a bit about mix buss versus outputs.  The XLR tab shows Output Patch Overview as Mixbuss 1 through Mixbuss 8 as Post Fader.    



      No, I think you are confusing the XLR Out tab with the Out 1-16 patch tab. The Out 1-16 assigns individual outputs to virtual (patch panel type) outputs. Once they are assigned, they can be assigned to the physical outputs in blocks of 4 (XLR Out) or 8 (AES50-A, AES50-B, Card Out). So on the Routing, Out 1-16 tab (screen) assign the following:


      * Output 1 -> Mixbus 1 (post fader)


      * Output 2 -> Mixbus 2 (post fader)


      ... (etc)


      * Output 6 -> Mixbus 6 (post fader)


      * Output 7 -> Main L (post fader)


      * Output 8 -> Main R (post fader)


      * Output 9 -> Mixbus 7 (post fader)


      * Output 10 -> Mixbus 8 (post fader)


      ... (etc.)


      * Output 14 -> Mixbus 12 (post fader)


       


      Then on the Routing, AES50-A tab


      * Output 1-8 -> Out 9-16


       


      Make sure the DL16 is in Mode 1 (see instructions here).


       

      • February 16, 2020
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