Hello All,
At the request of Terence Sharp, who posted in the X32 Discussion thread ( http://soundforums.net/junior-varsity/4393-x32-discussion-38.html ) on SoundForums.net, we're setting up this thread to collect feedback from the community on X32 feature requests and issues.
Please post your comments here and I'll ensure all the right folks at BEHRINGER read them.
Thanks!
-Mike
Since various magazines and Arturia have publicly called us out over the launch of our Swing MIDI Controller, we would like to respond and share some facts around the principles of competition and clear up some misconceptions.
Competition is a highly effective tool to drive innovation by empowering Customers to make their best choices and force manufacturers to constantly reinvent themselves. Innovation means progress and this happens on many levels, whether it relates to customer experience, functionality or cost efficiencies etc.
There are 4 established marketing strategies: market leader, market challenger, market follower and market nichers. Here is a great article: https://aytm.com/blog/brand-positioning-for-a-competitive-edge-part-3/
The competition law was designed to avoid companies creating a market monopoly and stifle innovation, which would be detrimental to the rights of the Customers to expect better offerings. The law was specifically designed to encourage everyone to fiercely compete, even when it means over the same functionality and design, provided intellectual property such as utility (functional) and design patents as well as trademarks etc. are respected.
How many Fender Stratocaster or Gibson Les Paul clones are out there in the guitar world and how many SM58 clones are available? How many cars or mobile phones look alike? It is not surprising that Gibson recently lost a substantial legal case trying to prevent others from making V-shape guitars or Fender, who lost all trademark cases related to their Stratocaster design.
The reason is simple: the law encourages competition and provides maximum freedom for companies to engage head-on, all for the benefit of the Customer.
We are spending large amounts of resources on innovation, which is reflected in products such as X32, XR18, Flow, DDM4000, etc. This made us the global market leader for analog and digital mixers and over the years we have built an extensive patent portfolio:
https://community.musictribe.com/pages/intellectual-property
However, we also clearly choose to follow successful brands and products, while adding more features and/or competing on price. Much of our innovation is invisible to the Customer as it relates to our highly advanced and automated design and manufacturing processes and for that we are spending hundreds of millions of US$.
For this reason, we have become strategic partners with Microsoft, Siemens, Adobe and many other Tier 1 companies as we are pushing for extreme digitization and automation.
The follower marketing strategy is a very common business model in any industry, which is enabled by law to encourage competition. With our new Swing MIDI Controller, we followed an established concept, but of course wrote our own firmware with added functionality. However, these unique features will only come to life when we launch our free DAW.
The free Music Tribe DAW will form the heart of an incredible eco-system, where all our controllers, synthesizers and drum machines etc. will integrate seamlessly, thus dramatically improve connectivity and workflow. This will make it incredibly easy for our Customers to create, edit and share their music.
Only our upcoming controllers will feature total integration with our synthesizers, drum machines, digital mixers and other Music Tribe equipment, while also offering standard functionality with all 3rd party products.
For anyone familiar with the industry landscape, Arturia has been cloned for years (Worlde MiniMidi, etc.), while the company has also been “borrowing” from others with their VST replicas of legendary hardware synths, open-source code from Mutable Instruments, the “Expressive Touche” controller or the registration of known “DX7” and “Synthi” marks. Equally, our own analog Xenyx mixers and many other products have been widely cloned.
¬We will absolutely continue to deliver innovative products but also follow our competitors as we expect our products to be cloned - fair play.
We are very cautious when it comes to our follower approach and employ expert intellectual property firms to ensure our products stay within the boundaries of the law; we are committed to never intentionally infringe on other companies’ intellectual property.
Many years ago, we were entangled in bitter lawsuits with Mackie and Pioneer, which we all won. But we also recently lost a case against Yamaha in China related to a simple fader knob design that involved a design patent we were unfortunately not aware of. We changed the design, we will pay the fees and move on. Notably, Yamaha themselves were sued by Dr. Dre over their headphone designs (https://www.cnet.com/news/dr-dre-sues-yamaha-over-headphones/) or entangled in other legal matters (https://www.gov.uk/government/news/musical-instrument-firms-to-pay-millions-after-breaking-competition-law), which clearly shows how competitive business is. The heated Apple versus Samsung disputes are a prime example.
It is our Purpose and Mission to empower Customers who don’t have deep pockets and provide them with the best possible equipment at fair prices. We do understand that we are a fierce competitor and at times controversial as we’re relentlessly push the envelope.
We would like to thank all our Customers who have supported us over the past 30 years. We are absolutely committed to continue to deliver the best possible products at the lowest possible cost.
Christian Boche;480 wrote:
Hi,
by now it is a bit clumsy, because the daw returns are not useable as digital inserts on all channel without sacrifying the micpres. You can use the Aux inptus though. Behringer R&D is working on a solution as we speak, this routing option will come in a future firmware update. I'm also waiting on this, we just need a bit more patience.
Christian
hyeatman;467 wrote:
Hi:
I just bought the Berhringer X32 and have been trying to connect Waves Multirack software via USB to the XUF FireWire/USB audio interface card. My hopes are to be able to run all the audio inputs during live performance through the Multirack software and back into the X32. I have had some success but have not yet found a "routing" combination that has completely worked. Has anyone tried and done this successfully??
I am new the forum and would appreciate any thoughts.
Best,
Hoyt
Christian Boche;1058 wrote:
I found StudioOne runs nicely with the X32 (both Mac and PC), but it is not that stable in comparison to reaper or SAW.
Roblof;1141 wrote:
Care to elaborate?
ripe;363 wrote:
OK, I am a bit unclear about hooking up line level (keyboards and effects) to the X32... in the Sound on Sound review it said the impedance was 12k? input impedance and would accept line level.
In the Sonic Lab video review it was mentioned a DI Box was required...
So, should a simple XLR - TRS snake be enough to connect the X32 directly to line level instruments?
Thanks
JK
Chris Painter;1258 wrote:
you always have the 6 AUX line inputs as well on the X32. ...but there's 6 stereo line channels available.
jenkinsj;1271 wrote:
Can you clarify this? I thought there were 6 mono AUX line inputs which you could use as 3 stereo pairs. Are there some more somewhere?
James
jenkinsj;1271 wrote:
Can you clarify this? I thought there were 6 mono AUX line inputs which you could use as 3 stereo pairs. Are there some more somewhere?
James
Keep in mind, you always have the 6 AUX line inputs as well on the X32. Not sure how many keyboard sources you have, but there's 6 stereo line channels available.
blechi;436 wrote:
Hi,
it would be nice to have corner in this forums (perhaps even some kind of database), where it is possible to share presets for FX, EQ, dynamics etc.
thanks
Blechi
starstruck;1473 wrote:
If behringer doesn't want to do this then www.x32user.net is already set up for this purpose
Kev
Dear X32 fellows,
We have just released v4.0, a major update to the X32 series firmware and the EDIT desktop apps.
We just uploaded it to a few displays in our retail store. Looks really good! I can't wait to play around with the new patch routing.
Stagesound.com
Updated my M32 and Core so far...very happy about Core/M32C being able to export shows!....long time coming. I don't see a specific area for the DP48 setup, in edit anyway, did I miss it? Love the user in/out routing sections, extremely powerful. Only can guess at the possibilities. Great work all!
@GaryHiggins wrote:
I don't see a specific area for the DP48 setup, in edit anyway, did I miss it?
No you didn't miss it. The editor doesn't have it yet. But the firmware does, meaning you can access it from one of the other (non-core) X32/M32 models interface. I have Scene Parser almost ready for release and hoping to provide a DP48 tool in Live Toolbox in the near future (yes you can access it via OSC).
I get 404 when trying to download some of the files (X-Edit Linux 32-bit, and RPI)
Hi Jan,
can we hope for some "firmware love" for the X Air/ M Air mixers, too, now that the X32 v4 has been done? You once mentioned that internally some of the most wanted features have already been implemented and you just didn't have the resources to update the apps as well. That would be highly appreciated
Hi,
is there a full RD-8 manual in the works and when will it be available to download?
Loving this machine so far, well done!
-Felipe
+1
i am also awaiting the full manual that is mentioned in the quick start
Same here. I'm a complete beginner by not having any sound on my RD-8 even via the headphone output. A user manual would let me know if my RD-8 is broken or if there is something to do? If it doesn't work I won't wait months to return it. I love my Behringer equipment, my Neutron and my DM12 are realy great, but it's not normal that we don't find anything to know how to start with our RD-8 when we are a beginner or to diag if there is a problem.
I just found a Quick start manual in the Download center. Hope this helps.
https://www.behringer.com/Categories/c/Behringer/Downloads#googtrans(en|en)
Unfortunately, it does not. The quick start guide comes with the unit but is just explaining the obvious stuff. All deeper editing is not explained and although I worked with a LOT of various equipment in my 30 years of music making, I would need a detailed manual for the RD-8. No sufficient answer from the support team, also just referring to the quick start guide...... ..
I'm thinking about it... but... maybe we can use the TR-08 Boutique version manual.
I found this (sorry French version)
https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/TR-08_fra04_W.pdf
And in English for the TR-808:
And :
http://www.synthfool.com/docs/Roland/TR_Series/TR808/Roland%20TR-808%20Owners%20Manual.pdf
if it can help...
Thanks to the team for getting the fader speed sorted out! Seems to work perfectly! First thing I checked Welcome screen is a nice touch also!
Like the idea of CustomLock and CustomBoot BMP files, but the link people keep providing just goes to the generic product list page on the Behringer website. How do you find instructions for this?
(or is my computer just being weird tonight?)
Cheers. G.
I downloaded it a day or two ago. Here it is anyways:
X32_Custom_Screens.zip@DaveMorrison Brilliant. Thanks!!