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  • shawnrowe1
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-07-06
    Hi, I have an X32 running into 2 DL153's. Everything on the 1st DL153 works great, but the second one the inputs gain stage is much lower than plugging a device into the 1st DL153. Am I missing something in the set-up that might cause the second DL153 not to perform exactly as the 1st one?
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    • shawnrowe1
      GaryHiggins You can't daisy chain blue box Midas stageboxes. If that's what you did, that might be it. If you use different ports and the settings are identical, it maybe could be different firmware? Try switching the stagebox from A to B or whatever one is right and see if it's the same. I guess it could be the hardware is defective, hope not.
      • July 6, 2020
      • X32 - going to 2 DL153's
        shawnrowe1 I will be back over there in the morning. They aren't daisy chained, they are AES50 A to the first one and AES50 B to the second one. But second one Mic Pre's get much less gain. I got another DL153 in case I can't resolve it on the hardware side. I'm wondering if the X32 treats them differently being on a S-16 stage box, I believe you have a master Sync and the other boxes would sync to that box for gain control? Not sure if the step-up to a Midas stagebox does the same processing to be controlled by the X32?
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      • X32 - going to 2 DL153's
        GaryHiggins I would think the X32 would be master for both (sync Int) I don't own a 153 so I am unsure how the see sync) would guess both should be set as slave to the X32. Great you have a spare 153! That should seal it if it works, it would be hardware (or still firmware I guess) as to the cause for the one with weak gain. You are sure it's not the X32 gain setting on the particular port?
        • July 6, 2020
    • shawnrowe1
      Nigel67 Hi shawnrowe1, as Gary mentioned above, the X32 will be master and the DL153's will be set to slave. They cannot be daisy chained together, one in AES50 A and the other in AES50 B. There should be no reason for a difference in gains so you might want to check the mic gain and digital trim positions via the surface. I am unsure if you have seen this, but to get an output from the DL153, its not as straight forward as you may think. https://musictribecommunity.powerappsportals.com/en-us/knowledgebase/article/KA-02305
      I also do not know how this would affect the patching of the second DL153 hanging off the AES50B port, with regards to the inputs. I have no way of checking either as we are working from home. It may require you to do a little testing yourself I am afraid. Quickest way to tell if one unit is faulty is to swap ports with them and see if the fault follows or not.
      • July 6, 2020
      • X32 - going to 2 DL153's
        Nigel67 Hi shawnrowe1. I have just checked a DL153 on the A port and a DL151 on the B port. Didn't have another 153 but the X32 sees the boxes as DL15X not as individual boxes. The gain levels on all inputs were the same. With regards to the outputs to the boxes (the link that I put in), whether the unit is on the A or B port, you have to use AES50 A or AES50 B Out 17-24. Just to make this doubly understandable, if you want outputs 1-8 from the console to go to the 8 outputs on the DL153 plugged into port B, then you assign AES50 B outs 17-24. Any questions, please ask
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      • X32 - going to 2 DL153's
        shawnrowe1 Sorry - I need to udate - X32 is set to internal clock I have a DL151 on AES50 A and a DL153 on AES50 B. Both of these devices are on the same firmware and are set to external clock. The Device ID on THe DL151 is Device 1 and the DL153 is Device 2. I can plug my Line level Computer source into Inputs 31-32 on the Console by Patching through the Inputs 7-8 on the DL 153 and get low audio. If I move the input to device DL153 on inputs 15-16 and patch that to the console on 31-32, then the audio is clipping as it should. Move it back to DL153 and I have to boost gain on line level source to +10 just to get a nice volume.
        • July 7, 2020
    • shawnrowe1
      shawnrowe1 What is the technical support phone number? I can't find it anywhere.
      • July 7, 2020
      • X32 - going to 2 DL153's
        Nigel67 I am sorry, but there are no longer any phone numbers. All contact is now via the community or submitting a ticket to us.
        • July 8, 2020
    • shawnrowe1
      shawnrowe1 I solved the issue - The reason I had low levels was because I actually didn't have head-amp control on the DL153. After doing some cross checking the problem just kept persisting no matter on the new 153 with updted firmware, etc.. I noticed that the second device was plugged into the 2nd AES50 port on the DL153. So, I thought maybe I don't have headamp control because of it might need to be in port 1 and not 2... BINGO! Now I have control of both devices and audio passing as it should. Thanks everyone! Glad it was an easy fix, just not where I expected to find the answer.
      • July 7, 2020
      • X32 - going to 2 DL153's
        Nigel67 Hi shawnrowe1. Great to hear that you are up and running. I have to admit that I have never tested using the DL15X B port to see what would happen. I would have expected it to have worked in exactly the same manner as the A port because it is just a redundant cable connection for PRO Series - obviously this isn't the case. There must be some other communication protocol going on here when connected to a X32. Will check it out next time I am in the office.
        • July 8, 2020
  • S-Audio
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-03-01

    I am trying to use M32 edit with my M32rlive console but I can't get them to talk to each other.

    The software recognizes the console and the IP address match but when I highlight the console and hit connect nothing happens and it says disconnected. any help would be appreciated.

    Ron

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      RexBeckett

      @S-Audio 


      You need to change one of the IP addresses. They should be in the same subnet but cannot be the same address. e.g. Set the console to 192.168.0.32

      • February 29, 2020
    • S-Audio
      S-Audio

      I tried changing the IP address on the console as you suggested but still nothing.I didn't recognize the console like it did in the screen shot attached to my first post....

      • February 29, 2020
    • S-Audio
      RexBeckett


      @S-Audio wrote:


      I tried changing the IP address on the console as you suggested but still nothing.I didn't recognize the console like it did in the screen shot attached to my first post....





      @S-Audio 


      The screenshot shows that there are two active network ports on your PC and they are both in the same subnet. This can cause problems. If you disable or disconnect the Wifi port, the PC should be able to find the console. If you need to keep Wifi active, try changing both the PC LAN port and console to a different subnet e.g. 192.168.32.nnn

      • February 29, 2020
    • S-Audio
      S-Audio

      I tured oof WIFI and it found the console right away so that was the issue. Now I have this message poping up.


      My console firm ware is the latest version 4.2 and it say uncompatable. I can't win   Now what?


      See attached.

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      • February 29, 2020
    • S-Audio
      S-Audio

      Sorry about the typo's. I have been trying to get this going for hours.

      • February 29, 2020
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    DavidAubin
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-06

    Started live streaming our church service a couple of months back and I am not satisfied with the audio over the stream, it's clear, but harsh.  We are still doing our in house service as well.  I have the mix where i want in the house and all I am doing is sending the channels I want for the stream to matrix, before EQ, assigned to a different output.  Some of the lower channels I send to bus then to the matrix to boost that channel.  Micing the room is not an option as it's not an ideal venue(but what is?).  What I have been told is that there is software that can be added with some premixed effects and EQ that i can send from the direct out to one of the aux buses for live streaming.  Is this something from Midas/Behringer or a third party thing? 

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      DavidKnighton Hello David Aubin,
      Whatever this added software is would be third party/external. There's no additional software that can be mounted to the operating system of the M32 console. What I can tell you about live stream mix is that most of the time, venues will dedicate a mixer for the venue, and another mixer for the live stream. The reason for this is because as a FOH operator, the inputs are EQ'd to sound good in the room, not through a laptop, phone, or tablet. This is likely why the mix sounds harsh on your live stream. What I would suggest is send all the inputs RAW out of the console to either another console, or to a computer, then mix it to where it sounds good coming out of a laptop or smart phone. Mixing on a pair of reference monitors may get you close, but the real deal here is that laptop speakers and phone speakers are super small and tinny, so you're better off referencing your mix directly off the live stream so you can make real time changes.
      • November 6, 2020
    • DavidAubin
      DavidAubin I know why it sounds harsh, we are a portable site and don't have the room for another mixer. I was going to try mixing it raw on a computer but seeing if there was something else available. Thanks
      • November 6, 2020
      • Midas M32 room mixing and live stream mixing
        DavidKnighton Hello David,
        Have you considered maybe an X32 Rack or M32C? Both units are relatively compact, and you can do most of your mixing from an iPad or laptops. It would be simple enough to daisy chain the main console to a 2nd unit and then you have all the creative processing in your hands for your live mix.
        • November 6, 2020
      • Midas M32 room mixing and live stream mixing
        DavidAubin Looking into it actually. Just need the budget.
        • November 6, 2020
    • DavidAubin
      KevinMaxwell How many inputs are you presently using on the M32? Do you have any idea if it is particular channels that sound “harsh” to you? Are you sure that you aren’t clipping the signal somewhere in the feed to the live stream. They are very susceptible to being over driven. See below how we dealt with that.

      One church I helped set up their X32 for live streaming we took each channel post fader to a Mix Bus (7) and if you needed more or less of that in the live stream they would adjust to taste. This included the vocal reverb that was used for the house mix. They could also send channels to Mix Bus 7 without sending it to the L/R for the house feed. And don’t forget that you have the parametric EQ on the Mix Bus available for shaping the sound.

      The way that the system is setup for live helps because the system is tuned for linearity (what go’s in is what comes out) and then vocal mics go thru a Mix Bus before going to the house mix outputs and that Mix Bus is EQed for gain before feedback. This leaves all channel EQs available to deal with making it sound that way you want that mic to sound not having to deal with and feedback issues on the channels. That gives a smoother sound that then translates to a post fader Mix Bus send working for live streaming.

      I used the compressor on Mix Bus 7 at about a 7:1 ratio and set the threshold so it was always doing a little something. This was then routed to Matrix 5/6 and the matrix compressor was set to limiting (brick wall limiting) and was set while watching a test live stream and was set to be just under clipping. This was to keep the signal clean and as loud as we could get it but keep it from clipping. Keep in mind that the dynamic range of live sound is not going to work for any kind of broadcasting feed.

      It might help you to get the sound you are looking for if you were to insert a Stereo Combinator from the effects rack (FX1-4 can be set to the Combinator) and play with the settings to get the sound you want.

      And although it might drive you a little bit craze because of the extreme delay you could have one person with a tablet (hooked up to control the live stream Mix Bus on the M32 over WiFi) mixing the Mix Bus feed while watching and listening to the live stream in another room. I say drive you crazy because any change you make on the Mix Bus you wouldn’t hear right away because of the time it takes for the live stream to reach the person watching and trying to mix it. When we were testing this setup it was around 26 seconds.

      I hope this is of some help to you.
      • November 6, 2020
      • Midas M32 room mixing and live stream mixing
        DavidAubin Thank you for the reply. This is actually what I am currently doing. Everything is a compromise in this manner and I will never be satisfied with it.
        • November 6, 2020
      • Midas M32 room mixing and live stream mixing
        KevinMaxwell How many inputs are you presently using on the M32?
        • November 7, 2020
  • billh2020
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-08-28

    Greetings!

    I am still learning my way around a digital mixer and hope that I can get some advice on the best way to configure our MR18 mixer. In a nutshell, I want to route non-EQed audio post-fader to the USB interface and am not sure the most efficient method.

    Our Application

    We work with corporate clients to produce company meetings. These can take place in a variety of spaces, including very reverberant venues like breweries.

    We provide the local sound reinforcement and broadcast audio and video to remote locations using web conference or live streaming. When web conferencing, remote locations may present (using audio, video and screen sharing) to the local audience.

    Here is our audio routing: 

    • We have a combination of wireless lav/headworn/handheld microphones coming into the MR 18.
    • We are using PEQ’s on the channels and a TEG/GEQ on the LR mains. We also use the auto-mix feature on the microphone channels.
    • The MR18 LR mains feed a local sound system for sound reinforcement. 
    • The Midas USB interface is configured for 2 channel operation connected to a computer workstation running a video switcher application (i.e. the Video Switcher).
    • The web conferencing remote audio feed is routed from the Video Switcher to the MR18 using the USB interface for in-house playback. This allows remote presenters to address the in-house audience.
    • To avoid a feedback loop, on the MR18 we create a mix-minus aux-send feed using Bus A. This mix-minus routes all local microphone audio less the web conferencing remote audio via the USB interface to the video mixer. The tap point is post-fader since individual microphones are muted when speakers are off-stage. This audio is broadcast to all the geographically remote locations.

    The Problem

    Depending on the event space, we use PEQ/TEQ/GEQ on the microphones to suppress feedback. I would like to send the “fuller” sounding non-EQ’ed microphone audio to the remote audience while maintaining a tap point that allows us to mute individual mic channels for both local and remote audiences.

    On a side note, I've learned alot reading through these postings and appreciate the knowledge shared on these boards. Thanks in advance for your advice!

    Bill

     

     

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      GaryHiggins

      @billh2020 It seems like you have got your local feed under control with post fader room compensated sends to FOH. You can set your usb sends at a different tap and by using the +M version of that tap, still maintain your mutes as desired. You might want to try the pre eq plus mute tap (solid yellow in M32-Edit) for the usb ch sends. It would be best if you post your scene here to get a clear picture of what you have set up.


       


      EDIT: In the setup/GUI Prefs section, if you make sure "Apply changes to all channels" is NOT checked, you can even send every ch at a different tap point if that works out better for some usb ch's.

      • August 28, 2019
    • billh2020
      Vasco_Romijn

      In the routing setup by the USB sends tab you can set those channels to Pre EQ+Mute. I think you lost fader control on the USB sends this way because it is not post fader anymore. You have to try yourself because I do not own a MR18. Just have the software installed for offline configurations when I know there is one at a veneu where I have to work.

      • August 28, 2019
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    CPMixing
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-12

    Hi,

    Just yesterday I was doing some tests at my studio and decided to plug in the FW 400-800 cable from my Midas Venice F32, into my OWC TB2 Hub that has a FW 800 port. The computer would not recognize it, so I plugged directly into the iMac with a FW 800 to TB2 adapter. Same issue. I then tried on my Macbook Pro (early 2013 retina 15" with High Sierra), no device detected still. I then uninstalled the Midas drivers and re-installed, both on my iMac and Macbook. No change. I then tried shutting the computer down, then turning the Midas off and back on, then re-booting the computer. Still no device detected. I also tried all of these same things with a different cable, same issue.

    It's been a looong time since I tried the Midas as an interface and this was the result. We also have 2 Apollo 8's and since I almost never need more than 16 inputs, I don't bother to use the Midas as a Digital Interface, only to monitor and run HP mixes. Only thing I noticed as far as the FW card is concerned, is the FW 400 port is a little loose, but still makes a solid connection(from feel at least) with the cable. The leds still light up above the sample rate and clocking text.

    Do I need a new FW Card? Any other troubleshooting I could try? Any specs not mentioned are below. Thanks for the help!!

     

    Computer Specs

    21.5” iMac running Sierra OS Quad CORE i7 3.1GHz Processor 16GB RAM
    1TB SSD

    Interfaces-2x Apollo 8 Blackface 2nd Gen, Dual Core(Thunderbolt 2) -Midas Venice F32(FW 800)

    Thunderbolt Hub-OWC 12 Port Thunderbolt 2 Dock

    DAW-Pro Tools 12.6.0 

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      DavidKnighton Hello Chris Pummill,
      Mac OS El Capitan is the latest OS that our firewire driver will support. I would suggest testing on an earlier OS, or if you have a Windows 7 machine with firewire, you can try that as well with the PC driver.
      • November 12, 2020
      • Midas Venice F32 FW Issues
        CPMixing Thanks David! Unfortunately, with our other DAWs and plugins, we can't go back OS-wise right now. It's a bit of a tricky setup because I record and mix out of the studio frequently, but we pay our bills by renting our space monthly to 10-15 different people. So any changes at all need to consider a large group of people. Worst case scenario, we just don't use the Midas as a digital interface anymore.

        Is there any way to tell if the FW card is working without reverting our computers to prior OS'?
        • November 12, 2020
      • Midas Venice F32 FW Issues
        CPMixing Also, I can't be 100% sure, but I believe I've used the Midas as an interface with the iMac and Sierra OS a few years ago with great success. Since we purchased our Apollos, I haven't bothered to use it, which is what led to the current confusion and troubleshooting. Nothing has changed on our iMac in YEARS because of potential compatibility issues and because its incredibly stable as-is.
        • November 12, 2020
    • CPMixing
      Dale_M Hi Chris, no not really as this is the only way to check the FW card is "seen" by the computer, you could try an old laptop running on an earlier Windows software but it's not guaranteed much past WIN 8 from memory, it def works on XP/Vista/Win 7/Win 8 and as my colleague David has stated on MAC up to El Capitan. It can be made to work with Sierra/High Sierra but these are unsupported workarounds, that said many users have had success -there was a KB article on it but the attachments are down at present. I think my suggestion with a laptop may be worth verifying if you can get hold of one as a starting point.
      • November 12, 2020
      • Midas Venice F32 FW Issues
        CPMixing Thanks Dale! Having read up on SIP and how it can help with newer OS's seeing the MIdas, is there any major downside to disabling it, even temporarily?
        • November 12, 2020
  • iTheAlterEgo
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-12-03

    M32-R Panning in DAW Remote mode.

     

    Hello all. 

             I am using my M32-R In DAW Remote mode, how do I get the pan knob and solo buttons to work with the selected channel I am using? I have no idea how to solve this, as there is only a dedicated main bus Pan/Bal knob and no pan for each channel. I am using Cubase 10.5 Pro on a Mac with OS Mojave.

    Thanks in advance.

    Please help.

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    TomCosaert
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-18

    Hey! I have a Midas MR18 digital mixer (similar to the Behringer XR18) and want to connect from its (balanced XLR, mono) AUX outputs to the (unbalanced TRS, stereo) AUX inputs of a Behringer HA6000 headphone amplifier.

    Depending on the number of participants (mix-minus feeds for each), I would like to support the following two scenarios:

    1. stereo (L/R) headphone monitoring up to 4 people (Midas MR18 limit)
    2. mono (R+R) headphone monitoring up to 6 people (Behringer HA6000 limit)

    To be sure not to damage anything, I'd rather not start experimenting with different cables. Therefore, I have two questions (and a follow-up question, depending on the answer of the 2nd question):

    Question 1: Would a 2x XLR female to TRS male cable (wired as illustrated below) work for stereo (L/R) headphone monitoring (scenario 1), connecting (paired) MR18 AUX outputs to single AUX inputs of the HA6000?

    This would accomodate 3 headphones (AUX outputs only), or even 4 headphones (if I use the MR18 Main L/R outputs as well), to enjoy stereo monitoring.

    Question 2: Would the same cable also work for mono (R+R) headphone monitoring (scenario 2), when simply not connecting one of the XLR ends and pressing the "MONO R" button on the HA6000, or is leaving the ring (or tip) signal of the TRS cable "floating" like this a really bad idea?

    This would accomodate 6 headphones to be able to monitor in mono (mirrored).

    Question 2b: In case using the same cable for scenario 2 is not recommended (see above, question 2), would an XLR female to TS male cable be advised?

    Thanks a lot for any help with this! I've been searching the internet for hours already, but could not find any definitive answers to these questions. It seems not a straightforward thing, wanting to connect the MR18 to a HA6000, or similar device with unbalanced stereo inputs.

    Note: I currently also own the Behringer AMP800 (which has balanced inputs and allows the use of regular XLR to TRS cables) but I want more connectivity options. Unfortunately, it seems headphone amps with more balanced inputs are not that common.

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      RexBeckett Hi Tom, your cable wiring is correct for dual XLR-F to TRS stereo. This should also work for mono if the HA6000 is switched appropriately.
      • November 18, 2020
      • Midas MR18 AUX Outputs to Behringer HA6000 AUX Inputs
        TomCosaert Thanks for the confirmation. Greatly appreciated!
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  • LHUFF121
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-01-24

    I have v3.12 scenes on a USB drive, will they load into v4.0?

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      Paul_Vannatto


      @LHUFF121 wrote:


      I have v3.12 scenes on a USB drive, will they load into v4.0?





      Yes you can. I would suggest that you re-save and export the scenes after you have upgraded to 4.02 so that the new scenes will include the new features (DP48, User In and User Out).


       

      • January 24, 2020
    • LHUFF121
      GaryHiggins

      @LHUFF121 I hope you meant 4.02 and not 4.0, 4.0 is loaded with (well at least it has many) issues. 4.02 is where you want to be. @Paul_Vannatto has mentioned 4.02 in his post, I just wanted to add the part about 4.0 having issues in case that was your plan.

      • January 24, 2020
    • LHUFF121
      TonyVenables

      Thanks for the note Gary about 4.02. I have had many issues with 4.0 and now have lost syc with the iPad. I lost routing and many settings plus all my saved library files. How did it go moving to 4.02? do you loose stuff again?

      • January 27, 2020
    • LHUFF121
      GaryHiggins

      @TonyVenables my update was very smooth, do it from the mixer/setup/global page while mixer is ON. If so it will offer a back up option...

      • January 28, 2020
  • DavidStackhouse
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-03-30

    Hello... I have an MR18 that I can use in conjunction with my MacBook Pro or iPad Pro (or Android phone or Kindle Fire, but for this purpose I wouldn't use either of those). My goal is to stream live video of a performance using a mix off the MR18 in place of the audio from the mic on whichever device I choose to capture the video stream. Simultaneouosly I wish to:
    - have live sound in the performance space over my PA system from the MR18
    - record BOTH the audio and video of the event (I realize I shouldn't expect video recording tips on this forum, but if you have any, that'd be awesome)
    - preferably multitrack as I record, rather than just get a main L-R mix.
    I have Logic Pro X on the MacBook Pro. I don't have recording software on the iPad Pro, but I do have an USB to lightning adapter it that helps. If all I can do is record the main mix, then so be it. But optimally it would be nice to have the tracks isolated so that I can clean them up in case afterwards I want to upload the video (and I probably will). It's likely to be only 2 tracks (guitar and vocal), but there may be a few more inputs as well.

    Thoughts and suggestions? Many thanks... stay healthy and safe, everyone!

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      RexBeckett

      @DavidStackhouse 


      On the MacBook Pro, you should be able to record up to 18 channels from the MR18 over USB. The channel sources are set using M-Air Edit on the In/Out -> USB Sends tab. Depending on what streaming software you use, it should be possible to select a pair of the USB channels as audio source.


       


      I believe some users have been able to record multi-channel on iPads but I don't know what software is required.

      • March 30, 2020
    • DavidStackhouse
      DavidStackhouse

      Thanks so much for your input, RexBeckett!

      • March 30, 2020
    • DavidStackhouse
      PaulSinkovich

      I use an iPad mini to record. I think it's an iPad mini 2. I've used Auria Pro or MTDaw or AUM apps to record. I've been recording 4 hour live sessions every Friday for a year. 16 channels recorded.  All apps have worked flawlessly. I prefer Auria Pro because I get an AAF which I then import into Protools for mixing. 

      • March 30, 2020
    • DavidStackhouse
      DavidStackhouse

      PaulSinkovich... and you're capturing your video as you live stream as well as recording the video, as well as mixing on the MR18 software to mix as well as tracking in Auria Pro... all simultaneously on the one iPad mini???

      • March 30, 2020
    • DavidStackhouse
      PaulSinkovich

      I'm using the iPad mini exclusively to record the audio from the xr18. I use GoPros to record the video. Then sync them up with the audio from the xr18 which is recorded on the iPad mini in Auria Pro. I export the AAF file from Auria Pro to my Mac.

      • March 31, 2020
  • Blink180stu
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-12-06

    Anyone experienced this before?  After touching some of the knobs on the Pro2, the values will randomly change as if it thinks someone is turning the knob.  Happens on the gain, eq, compressor and gate.  Only seems to happen after you touch one of the knobs, if you never touch the knobs and use the trackball it doesn't seem to happen.  Any thoughts?

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    • Blink180stu
      Ishai

      Yes, was warned about it by a sound company that owns a number of PRO consoles. Suggest to contact Midas and send them Log Files.


      Ishai

      • December 7, 2019
    • Blink180stu
      ChaseMcKnight

      We call that "ghosting". This likely means the physical encoders will need replacing. Please fill out the support form and get in touch with our service team and they can assist. 

      • December 9, 2019
    • Blink180stu
      zigson

      I had this issue on some encoders of my Pro-1 (espacially on eq-encoders)


      the Midas-SAV replaced the whole encoder card/pannel without any costs (under waranty)


      now, all is fine !!

      • December 27, 2019
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