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    JHAYWARD86
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-08-09

    Hi, 

    So my current setup is M32r at foh and M32c for monitors which share a DL32 stage box. 

    Currently have the M32c setup as master on stage as I need to use the outputs on the DL32 to run mons. 

    Is there a way though I can set up a talkback at FOH that can be routed to those outputs so the band can hear me? 

     

    Many thanks 

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    • JHAYWARD86
      Paul_Vannatto The only way to get talkback from FOH to the M32C is to put the M32C in between the FOH and DL32. It is not possible doing the way you have it setup, due to the fact that when the DL32 senses a console is connected to the AES50 B port, it outputs the DL32 inputs to that port. Therefore the signals from the FOH is unavailable.
      • Aug 9
    • JHAYWARD86
      KevinMaxwell I assume that you are able to assign outputs of the M32R and or the M32Core to the DL32. I have to figure out how to do that.

      I am not sure if this will work but a work around might be to make an output of the M32r on the DL32 be your talk back and then with a short XLR cable plug that into an input on the DL32 and assign that on the M32core to the monitor mixes that you want it on.
      • Aug 9
    • JHAYWARD86
      Paul_Vannatto Reviewing the DL32 QSG (page 10), there is a way to send FOH talkback via DL32 to M32C, if you are not using the Ultranet (for P16, etc.). Banks 5 and 6 (33-48) do in fact pass through from AES50 A to B. So here is the routing to make it work.

      FOH, Routing, User Out screen
      * Output 1 -> Talkback 1 (part of AuxIn bank)
      * Output 2 -> Talkback 2 (part of AuxIn bank)
      FOH, Routing, AES50 A (or B depending on which port you are using) screen
      * Outputs 33-40 -> UserOut 1-8

      M32C, Routing, User In screen
      * Input 1 -> AES50 A33 (or B33 depending on which port you are using)
      * Input 2 -> AES50 A34 (or B33 depending on which port you are using)
      M32, Routing, Inputs screen
      * AuxIn Remap -> User In 1-2

      This will put FOH talkback 1/2 as inputs to M32C Aux 1/2, which can then be sent to the various buses.
      • Aug 9
      • Running talkback from foh when using a DL32 as digital split
        KevinMaxwell I had forgotten that in this install the X32 has 2 EtherCon cables going to the stage from FOH. One is going from the X32 AES50a to one of the SD16 stage boxes and the other is going from the X32 AES50b to the other SD16. Both of those are being replaced with the DL32. BTW we already have the DL32 and the X32Rack and the P16D we just haven’t installed it all yet. I was wondering if there is any advantage to using the second EtherCon from the X32 to the X32Rack and I don’t know if this would even work. I assume that would be from ASE50b to AES50b since that would be the only AES50 connections left to use. I don’t want to daisy chain from the DL32 to the X32Rack to the X32 at FOH. I want the DL32 to act as a splitter. Would this second EtherCon hooked up from AES50b to AES50b give me any more routing options from the X32 at FOH to the X32Rack?

        Just to give you as much information as possible that might be helpful there will still be about 4 of the P16-M that come from the P16D that is fed from the FOH X32 and maybe one that comes from the X32Rack. All of the mixes off of the X32Rack will be IEMs (mostly wireless) and most controlled using Mixing Station. I am working on a very user friendly way to make that work by using IDCAs.

        This routing question is not for the Talk Back they won’t be using that at all. They have had that capability but never got used to using it. This is so that I can route the Vocal Mix Bus from the X32 to the X32 rack. And I just found out their backing tracks and click are going to be moved from the drummers control to start things to the FOH control. I don’t think that this is a good idea and have told them so. So that means I also need to get that from FOH X32 to the X32Rack. I can actually hard wire all of these things if I want to or have to because there is a snake from stage to FOH that at the moment is only used for returns to the house speakers and the wedges. I will probably switch that over to the DL32 outputs. Or I can just use the DL32 outputs for this and hard-wire them to the X32Rack inputs. I will probably be using the Aux inputs for this.

        When this system was last put in there already was an analog snake in place and also 3 different churches used this building to meet and at least one of them used the analog sake for their inputs. There are now only 2 different churches meeting there and they share almost everything. The each had their own scene that they would recall for their service, but I am not sure if that is happening any more.

        This is actually a much smaller church then you would think. I think it seats less than or around 200.

        I hope I haven’t hijacked the OPs thread too much, I figured it was along the line of the same basic routing questions.
        • Aug 14
    • JHAYWARD86
      JHAYWARD86

      Thanks for the detailed answer, I'll give this a go!

      • Aug 9
  • Sonofastu
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-08-26

    Hello all!

    I’m using the Midas M32 as the front end in my studio. I’m slightly confused on the routing capabilities but I think I understand what I need to accomplish. I believe there are two scenarios that exist to fulfill my needs. The first, I'm tracking a live group and wish to provide headphone mixes via the P16. Most likely, the mixes would be post channel, but pre fader?  I’m assume I’d probably need to send a sub mix of the drums to a stereo pair on the p16 with perhaps the kick on its own channel. 

    The second scenario- I have audio recorded on my DAW (reaper) and I’m tracking an individual performer. In this scenario I believe I’d probably want to send a sub group of drums and perhaps a few individual tracks, or a mix of everything (the easiest and probably least likely :-). Also, I have a vague understanding of how to incorporate effects.  What if in either scenario I’d like to add reverb to a channel or say...the drum sub group.

    Assuming I ever sort these two scenarios out, I suppose the next thing would be to save these two routing scenarios as scenes for quick recall?

    Does the way I’m thinking about this make sense?  If so, how would one go about accomplishing the routing?

    Terribly sorry for beating the M32/p16 routing to death. I have read through some of the threads but I’m still a bit foggy on the uptake. Previously my front end systems have been Roland and the routing styles are very different

    many thanks!

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    • Sonofastu
      DaveMorrison You seem to be right on track. The routing in this case is straightforward. Everything you want is on the Ultranet (P16) tab. Pick the bus or busses you want for the drums and assign them to the P16 channels. You could assign the FX returns if you can afford the channels on the P16.
      • August 26, 2020
    • Sonofastu
      Sonofastu Good to know, thanks!
      • August 27, 2020
    • Sonofastu
      DaveMorrison If you have any questions, just ask.
      • August 27, 2020
  • ShafiquzzamanShaon
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-27

    Dear sir,

    I want to Know the Price Of 

    Midas PRO3-CC-IP and 

    DL153

     

    Thanks

    Shaon Shafi.

     

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    • ShafiquzzamanShaon
      DavidKnighton hello ShafiquzzamanShaon.
      The Midas Pro3 is a legacy product, meaning we no longer manufacture it. You can find used desks on the market, but you're better off purchasing a new system. The Pro2 is still being manufactured though and it has an equivalent amount of I/O capability as the Pro3, but without the redundancy tools of the Pro3 system (i.e. redundant MC, redundany DSP, redundant screens). The DSP on a Pro2 is also built in as opposed to an external engine, so you end up with a more compact system. Price wise, you will need to contact one of our Midas dealers for that information. You can actually do a google search and pricing is readily available on the console and stageboxes. Last time I checked, you could order a Pro2 on Amazon.
      • August 27, 2020
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    vvish
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2021-05-12

    Hey Guys

    We have some questions for you.

    We are designing an exhibition hall system. The internal audio system, lighting system and LED system all need to be controlled by the central controller. Can the M32 be controlled by the central controller? If so, by what method? Can it be through MIDI or Ethernet?

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    JoelMcWilliams
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-11-13

    M32 with firmware 4.03 - how do you tell what scene is loaded?  Early versions of the firmware used to show me this but with recent firmwares that feature seems to have disappeared.

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    • JoelMcWilliams
      DanielPaine By default, the show view is normally set to 'Cues'. Changing this to scenes will reveal 2 names at the top of the screen so you can see what is loaded. Please see the pictures enclosed. The top text (shown in yellow) is the current loaded scene. While the name under this (In white) shows what you have selected to load next (before hitting the Go button.) Hope this helps.

      It's done this way in preferences so you can see which mode your automation is in. i.e. 'Cues', 'Scenes', or 'Snippets'. Changing the modes also coincide with how the 'show control' buttons work
      • November 13, 2020
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    LarryWBowers
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-06-23

    My church purchased a Midas 32R board about 4 years ago. About 2 years ago we had a problem and sent it back for repairs. The person that installed it had a spare to load us while it was being repaired. We now have another issue, channels 1 - 8 are dead and we need to send it back for repairs. The company that loaned us one before does not have another one. We would like to purchased an additional Midas 32R to have as a back up while this one is repaired and to have it just in case this happens again. Do you have any Midas 32R mixers in stock?

    Thanks, Larry

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    davep54
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-06-08

    I have an m32c and am using it with a dl32 and x32 and a sd8. I am wondering how to get the level control for the monitor out on the m32c for que wedge on the master fader. When i select that option in the monitor tab it doesn't do anything. When I use that same function on the x32 it works. I think this a question for Paul Vannatto

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    • davep54
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Dave, what app are you using to control the M32C?
      • Jun 8
      • m32c monitor control
        davep54 M32 edit on pc
        • Jun 8
      • m32c monitor control
        davep54 Version 3.2
        • Jun 8
    • davep54
      DavidKnighton Hello davep54,
      I'm not 100% certain, but check the MONITOR LEVEL setting. Even if using the Mains fader, the monitor level needs to be up because the output still passes through that setting. On the actual mixers, there is a dedicated analog control for this, but since the M32C has no dedicated control, you must use the control in the EDIT window.
      • Jun 8
    • davep54
      davep54 Yep Already did that and it does change the level out of the monitor out but when I click on use master fader it doesnt do anything, makes no difference when I try to control volume from master fader. the only control I have of the monitor output is the actual monitor level control. I'm using this console to run monitors for a festival and would like to not have to open another screen just to control my Q wedge level. and since my x32 can do this why cant M32C. same system but I'm sure i'm just missing that one button as always when something dosent work.
      • Jun 8
    • davep54
      Paul_Vannatto Sorry Dave. I had a recording session with a church group and just got home. I believe that "Use Master Fader" setting changes only the physical console master fader, such as on an X32/M32 that has physical faders, not applicable for the M32C, X32 Core or X32 Rack.
      • Jun 8
    • davep54
      davep54 Thanks for the thoughts. Kinda sucks I was pretty sure this time I didn't miss anything. I just find it hard to believe that it is that way.
      • Jun 8
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    MikaelFrithiof
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-05

    Hi

    I need to record to ProTools from a Midas R32 Live but I need the in-house LTC/MTC to get ProTools to slave.

    Is there a way I can get the Midas to listen to LTC/MTC as an audio interface and sync with ProTools?

     

    Cheers

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    Brgrpyrmd
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-12-03

    I am looking for the schematic or full sevice manual for the midas venice f32. There is an engineer close by that needs it to fix my machine.

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    balky
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-01-07

    Please see the video.  Wonder if the same happens with your board.

    When select inputs 1-16 Or 17-24 by pressing two buttons at the same time. It happens with specific scenes.

     

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    • balky
      Paul_Vannatto You don't mention which 2 buttons. If you are pressing the 2 layer buttons, then, then it changes to the channel spill mode (which has been a feature since early 3.x).
      • Jan 7
      • m32r LIVE  - UPDATE 4.04.1 Weird fader behavior
        balky 2 layer buttons 1-16 Or 17-24. And faders' useless jumps as you can see in the video are weird, I never saw this before
        • Jan 7
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