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  • New
    CPMixing
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-06-19

    Hi,

    The other day while doing other work behind my Midas, I unfortunately bumped a speaker and it fell and broke off the Master and Mono Master Faders. In the attached pic, you can see what I'm left with. It was a pretty clean break, but there is nothing in the faders now to control them, although they still work and pass audio. I have 2 questions...

    -Do I really need to take apart the entire console to re attach the faders?

    -The metal port that the fader attaches to might be bent, what parts might I need to re attach them?

     

    Thanks so much for any help at all.

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    • CPMixing
      Nigel67 Hi CPMixing. I think that you will do very well if you can attach the shafts back on the faders. You will more than likely have to replace them. The faders are soldered on to the pcb, so yes, you will have to take out the fader pcb to desolder and replace the faders, or you can purchase a replacement fader pcb. If you know how to solder, then its a more time consuming job than being difficult. To access the pcbs, you need to take the bottom panel off the console. For availability of faders or fader pcb, please contact our spares team. This can be done by clicking on the support tab at the top of the page. A new window will open. Scroll down and click on the Spare Parts tab and submit a ticket. A colleague will then get back to you with part numbers, availability and pricing.
      • Jun 19
  • derek_gjovig
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-09-01

    Hi all,

    I'm fairly new to the group, but have what I hope is a very basic question. I've had an X-32 and S-16 setup for years, but have recently put together an IEM rack for my band's use that includes an M32C, DL32 and my older S-16 for additional analog outs.

    I've never really toyed with virtual soundchecking before, but since I'm also the drummer, I can see the usefulness of tweaking a lot of processing, effect, gain staging, etc in advance of gigs for our ears and for our usually random FOH mixers.

    I've not messed with any factory settings as far as routing via the X-Live card, so I believe that it is tapping the signal to my DAW right after the head amps and before any processing. When I change, lets say, the routing of the first 8 channels from drums from AES50- A1-8 to Card 1-8 to pay them back from the DAW, should the playback from the DAW theoretically be same as the original head amp levels? Assuming that all levels in the DAW and Card trims are at "0"...

    For example, if I play back audio from the DAW (without processing in the DAW) and work on effects or IEM mixes and then change back to the DL32 inputs for a live rehearsal or gig, will there need to be additional "mixing" for everyone or will it be exactly the same as it was with DAW playback.

    I'm just trying to get my head around this in order to cut some time off of the learning curve as I dive in...

    Thanks all, hope it's not a dumb question.

    Derek

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    • derek_gjovig
      DavidKnighton Hello Derek Gjovig.
      In theory, the signal being recorded in your DAW is the same level going in as it will be coming back into the console. So long as all the level settings are at unity, you 'shouldn't' need to tweak any levels when swapping over to card. That being said, It would be a good idea to A/B them in real time. The console has a feature in routing called RECORD/PLAYBACK. This is a quick way to hot swap being two predetermined routing setups. Play the drums in real time and then swap over to the playback in real time and note whether there's any substantial difference in level. Most engineers would use playback tracks for a 'virtual soundcheck' so that they can tweak the PA without needing the band on stage. To be fair, virtual soundcheck would be rather pointless if the levels were not consistent from front to back. It should be rather reliable, but consider mic placement may change from setup to setup, guitar player may turn up the volume in between songs, drummer might not be hitting as hard as the day before.... etc. These variables can have minor inconsistencies, so take them into consideration.
      • September 1, 2020
      • Relationship between Head Amp gain at a DL32 vs usb playback level from DAW for virtual soundchecks
        derek_gjovig Thanks, David. Obviously, tweaking levels to the house without the drums playing live in the space, unless you're in a very large venue is still not going to completely emulate the live show, however, every other instrument in our band runs direct with IEMs and no monitors... so, it should be a good way to rough in IEM levels or effects and such... just haven't had any time yet to experiment!
        • September 1, 2020
      • Relationship between Head Amp gain at a DL32 vs usb playback level from DAW for virtual soundchecks
        derek_gjovig PS- I'll look for the Record/Playback feature!
        • September 1, 2020
    • derek_gjovig
      DaveMorrison You are correct. The signal from the preamps are sent directly to the USB bus. If your DAW is records and plays back at unity gain. the playback will be exactly the same. If you add processing then they won't. The meters, however, might not read the same if they have different reference levels for 0dBFS. One might use -16dB and another -20dB. If they don't sound at the same level (they should), there are a few places to troubleshoot.
      • September 1, 2020
  • 12Indeed
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-09-29

    I figured out how to record audio from my Midas M32 to my DAW(Cakewalk) but now I need help with hearing my recording back through my mixer to my speakers. What do I do? 

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    • 12Indeed
      GaryHiggins What firmware are you using? There are routing assignments based on play/record positions in the routing input section. What you end up wanting for playback is (in most cases) “card” 1-32 in groups of 8 for your playback routing.
      • September 29, 2020
  • rrbarcarse
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-07-03
    I looked into M32 website (Midasconsole.com) and don't see M32 Edi app for windows. I see Mac and Linux. I went under App, but when I downloaded the file it has tar.gz file extension. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
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    • rrbarcarse
      Paul_Vannatto That software list is scrollable. The PC (Windows) version is just below the Mac version.
      • July 3, 2020
    • rrbarcarse
      rrbarcarse Oh wow! I feel so !#$%. Thanks. I also found it on the downloads section and filtering to M32 section. Appreciate the support! thanks!
      • July 3, 2020
  • New
    MarkNorgren
    Contributor - Level 3
    2021-06-24

    Question about heat.  We had two gigs on Saturday.  The first gig was on a stage that had a roof. However, by 2:30pm the sun was around enough on the roof, that the sun was shinning direct on the board.  I had my iPhone on the table that shut down because of the extreme heat.  We got done playing at 5:00pm and the board was extremely hot.  Packed up and went to the next gig, at 8:00pm the board wa still hot!  All went fine and the board performed like a champ.  I can try and keep it out of the direct sunlight, but sometimes, just not possible.  Has anyone encountered problems with the sun?  I think next time I will put the hard cover over the top, just to keep the direct sun off the board.  Other ideas or thoughts about the sun and the board?

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    • MarkNorgren
      Dale_M Thanks for your post, we normally check for these type of issues during the research and development stage and often the middle east temperatures which are some of the most extreme are a consideration. We have historically had no reports of any M32's failing due to excess sunlight so hopefully this gives you some reassurance.
      • Jun 26
    • MarkNorgren
      MarkNorgren I appreciate that Dale. I am really enjoying my M32R and it has been very reliable!
      • Jun 27
  • dorrsr
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-28

    Hi,

    Our church bought 2 Midas M32 mixers and our implementer has connected it all in.  In each location, it just so happened that I would prefer the board come up on Inputs 17-32 rather than 1-16.  I have not been able to save this as a preference for power-up.  Is this possible?  If not can it be a feature request?

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    • dorrsr
      KyleJohnson Hello, Kyle here with Music Tribe. It's not possible to have the console boot up on the 17-32 Layer. But what you can do is switch the routing so the inputs from 17-32 are to channels 1-16 and vice versa, so that the channels you want to boot up with are actually 1-16.
      • August 28, 2020
    • dorrsr
      Paul_Vannatto If you do want to go ahead with Kyle's suggestion (switching channels 1-16 and 17-24), I would suggest that you export your scenes (from both M32) to files and load them into Scene Parser (https://sourceforge.net/projects/x32sceneparser/) one at a time. Then use the channel arrange tool to drag the channels to the desired order. Select Include Ch Source and then Transfer. The resulting OSC commands can then be outputted as a snippet file that can be loaded into the console. Loading the snippet will move all channel settings correctly.
      • August 28, 2020
  • New
    Adamrussell
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-06-15

    We've been using Mixtender with our Midas ProX and Pro1 for many years and we've noticed that the app will not connect on many of our iPads that have been updated and/or new iPads that have been purchased. Does anyone else have any issues with this? The app also hasn't been updated for years... any plans to update??

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    • Adamrussell
      DavidKnighton Hello Adamrussell,
      Apple have released some new features in their recent update. I noticed that deleting and reinstalling an app will usually fix certain issues. I'll need to check if there is a latest known working iOS. Within the advent of HD96, there is little chance the app will see any new updates.
      • Jun 15
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    TroyKrueger
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-06-20

    I want to take a fader out of the main bus ( mono center and main stereo) without having to express a fader level. Is this possible? 
    currently the following works but only while expressing a fader level:

    /ch/17/mix ON  -4.3 ON +0 ON -3.0

    the -4.3 is the fader level, it works when the fader level is in the string, it does not Mt work without the fader level expressed.

    I want to have snippets that will take certain faders out of the main stereo bus. And other snippets that put them back in the main stereo bus, but not having to 'declare' a fader level.

    I appreciate any feedback. 

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    • TroyKrueger
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Troy, standard snippets and scenes generated by the console or Edit uses the multi-value OSC command lines. These can be replaced by their single-value commands, which are fully documented by Patrick in his X32 OSC Protocol document.

      For that particular line, it can be replaced by the following OSC single-value commands (see page 26)
      /ch/17/mix/on ON
      /ch/17/mix/fader -4.3
      /ch/17/mix/st ON
      /ch/17/mix/pan +0
      /ch/17/mix/mono ON
      /ch/17/mix/mlevel -3.0

      For your particular snippet, simply use the /ch/17/mix/st (for the main stereo) and the /ch/17/mix/mono (for the mono center) commands
      • Jun 20
      • Scene parser - fader level
        TroyKrueger My Scene Parser User Manual only goes to page 25. ?? Don't see a 26
        • Jun 22
    • TroyKrueger
      Paul_Vannatto Patrick's document is included in the Documents folder of Scene Parser or can be found on Patrick's website here:
      https://sites.google.com/site/patrickmaillot/x32
      • Jun 20
    • TroyKrueger
      Paul_Vannatto Hey Troy, I had to go to the notification to see your responses and questions, since they don't show up in the standard view in this "new fangled" forum.

      I meant page 26 in Patrick's document. The link is in the second full paragraph on his website. Here is the link to the actual document:
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Snbwx3m6us6L1qeP1_pD6s8hbJpIpD0a/view
      • Jun 22
    • TroyKrueger
      Paul_Vannatto I just realised that I had not included Patrick's document in the Document folder that comes with Scene Parser. I will do that in the next release of Scene Parser.
      • Jun 22
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    Ahltech
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-06-05

    I've done this over 100 x. 

    cat 5 shield cable 75'. Tests fine 

     

    tried 2 other cables. 

    on routing dl1-16 shows up. 

    On mixer solid red light on screen. Blink red light on dl-16

     

    tried several cables....and A& B side.... same results 

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    • Ahltech
      Paul_Vannatto Make sure the AES50 cable is connected to the A port of the DL16.
      • Jun 5
    • Ahltech
      Ahltech

      It is on the a side

      • Jun 5
    • Ahltech
      Ahltech

      It is on the a side

      • Jun 5
    • Ahltech
      Paul_Vannatto What mode is the DL16 set to? If the SN Master light is lit, that means that it is set to be the master clock along with the M32. Change the mode so that only the M32 is the master clock.
      • Jun 5
  • New
    guitarsit
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-01-18

    Hi all, I am having a hard time finding an answer to the following so posting here to see if anyone can help. Thanks in advance.

    I have an MR18 I'm controlling from my Windows laptop. They're connected via ethernet for the MR18 controller, and USB for recording to DAW. Mixing and recording work fine. We're using 9 channels all with analog inputs and I'm using Acid Music Studio for my DAW.

    I also have 1 input where the source is set to USB, to play audio from the laptop back into the mix. This works fine for the live mix, but it's not being picked up by the DAW for recording. In the DAW I set the input for the track to be the channel I've got the USB running through -- just like how the other DAW tracks are set up -- but it doesn't detect the audio.

    All suggestions welcome.

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    • guitarsit
      RexBeckett Hi guitarsit, you need to change the signal tap for the channel with the USB source. This is on the In/Out -> USB Sends tab. The default tap is Analog which is directly from the analogue input A/D converter. If you change the signal tap to Input it will take the feed from after the analogue/USB switch and therefore record the USB playback. Make sure that you don't enable record monitoring to the same USB track in the DAW software or you will get digital feedback.
      • Jan 18
      • Recording channel where source is USB
        guitarsit That did the trick. Thank you!
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