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  • iTheAlterEgo
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-12-03

    M32-R Panning in DAW Remote mode.

     

    Hello all. 

             I am using my M32-R In DAW Remote mode, how do I get the pan knob and solo buttons to work with the selected channel I am using? I have no idea how to solve this, as there is only a dedicated main bus Pan/Bal knob and no pan for each channel. I am using Cubase 10.5 Pro on a Mac with OS Mojave.

    Thanks in advance.

    Please help.

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  • LHUFF121
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-01-24

    I have v3.12 scenes on a USB drive, will they load into v4.0?

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      Paul_Vannatto


      @LHUFF121 wrote:


      I have v3.12 scenes on a USB drive, will they load into v4.0?





      Yes you can. I would suggest that you re-save and export the scenes after you have upgraded to 4.02 so that the new scenes will include the new features (DP48, User In and User Out).


       

      • January 24, 2020
    • LHUFF121
      GaryHiggins

      @LHUFF121 I hope you meant 4.02 and not 4.0, 4.0 is loaded with (well at least it has many) issues. 4.02 is where you want to be. @Paul_Vannatto has mentioned 4.02 in his post, I just wanted to add the part about 4.0 having issues in case that was your plan.

      • January 24, 2020
    • LHUFF121
      TonyVenables

      Thanks for the note Gary about 4.02. I have had many issues with 4.0 and now have lost syc with the iPad. I lost routing and many settings plus all my saved library files. How did it go moving to 4.02? do you loose stuff again?

      • January 27, 2020
    • LHUFF121
      GaryHiggins

      @TonyVenables my update was very smooth, do it from the mixer/setup/global page while mixer is ON. If so it will offer a back up option...

      • January 28, 2020
  • AaronLane
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-08-31

    Hi there,

     

    With remote work and assistance becoming the norm in today's COVID-19 climate, our need and reliance on remote apps is ever increasing. I've noticed an issue when using the M32-Edit software with the Midas M32 desk, that after some time, the software either loses connection with the desk and it requires reconnecting, or no longer is able to synchronise properly. In order to resolve the issue and regain full control, the desk needs to be restarted.

    I have attempted closing the software and reconnecting, but synchronisation only gets to 90%. Exactly 90% every time. This happens on computers connected both locally and remotely. 

    I have also noticed that after some time, the desk starts dropping pings and this is the same time connection issues with the app start. The desk also has a Dante card installed, and there doesn't appear to be any issues with connection to that.

    The issue happens with both the Mac and Windows version, so appears to be an issue with the desk. The desk is running the latest version of firmwate - 4.02. M32-Edit version is V4.1 .

    Does anyone else have this issue, or able to assist with resolving the issue? Any assistance would be appreciated.

     

    Kind regards,

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    • AaronLane
      Nigel67 Hi Aaron, this is not something that I am aware of, but I will pass your comments on to the designers and ask them to test. Is it always after roughly the same amount of time that the sync is lost, or a particular amount of time that the EDIT software has been idle or completely random. You mention Windows and MAC. Is this the latest OS versions. if not, please advise. Many thanks. Could you also give someinformation on your set up with the pc's and connections.
      • August 31, 2020
      • M32-Edit - Software losing access to M32 Desk
        Nigel67 Hi Aaron, now I have more information, I would agree with Kevin. You are more than likely having an IP address confict that is swamping the edit software and causing it to freeze. I will look into this a little further and get back to you.
        • September 2, 2020
    • AaronLane
      KevinMaxwell It sounds to me like M32Edit doesn't like to play nice with Dante on the same network. Have you tried using a separate network for M32Edit.
      • September 1, 2020
      • M32-Edit - Software losing access to M32 Desk
        AaronLane Hi Kevin,

        That's an interesting idea. To be honest, no I haven't tried that. I'm currently out of town, but will see what I can do about isolating the networks and connecting to it directly. It'll be interesting to see if A - the issue still happens, and B - if it does, can it recover without restarting the desk.

        Kind regards,
        • September 1, 2020
    • AaronLane
      AaronLane OK... Update on testing:

      I ran two machines locally both with Dante and M32-Edit for around 6 hours with music playing on 6 channels into the desk, and 6 channels out. Adjust faders here and there with no issues, no disconnections, no need to re-sync. The desk's ethernet connection is still on the same network as Dante. I also double checked the IP adresses and there is no conflict.

      The next day I restarted the desk, and this time connected via VPN. This time the software only lasted a couple of hours before disconnecting. The more often I reconnected, the less time it would stay connected and require re-syncing. After I while, I decided to connect via a local machine, and it was now experiencing the same issue.

      It appears that when M32-Edit connects to the sound desk from a remote connection, it starts losing connection more and more affecting both remote and local M32-Edit connections. Something happens that causes the desk to not recover until being restarted.

      The VPN connection is reasonably stable with a round trip ping time averaging 15ms. The connection seems stable with constant pings from the remote computer to the desk's gateway and Dante card, however the desk's ethernet card will start dropping pings (both locally and from remote machine) after some time.

      It appears that the desks ethernet connection isn't able to manage prolonged latency (ie >1ms) and becomes unresponsive more and more often.

      The below recording is from the local machine which wasn't having any issues until a remote connection was made. To overcome this, the desk needs to be restarted.

      I'm still off-site for another week or so, but please let me know if there is any other tests you'd like me to run.
      • September 3, 2020
      • M32-Edit - Software losing access to M32 Desk
        AaronLane https://1drv.ms/v/s!ArNt8Hh027d9sHIErCTLoDJn9Z08?e=zQrORk
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        • September 3, 2020
      • M32-Edit - Software losing access to M32 Desk
        KevinMaxwell From everything I have read over the years I don’t think that you can do what you are trying to do successfully unless you are running the M32 Edit locally on a computer next to the M32. And then running a program on your remote computer that allows you to see the local computer screen and control the local computer with your remote computer. I am not an expert in this at all. But the connection between the M32 and the Computer running M32 Edit is critical and I don’t think it can work reliable enough over VPN to maintain the consistency and speed needed to make it work properly.

        I don’t think you mentioned that you were trying to do this over VPN in your original post. I am actually surprised that someone else didn’t mention that this probably won’t ever work reliably. I am actually surprised that you got it to work at all.
        • September 4, 2020
  • mattrcraig
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-05-28

    He everyone!

    We are starting to livestream and we just got a M32R to run our broadcast feed. We also want to throw a Behringer X32 in the mix for a separate monitor board. We have a DL32 stage box to run all of our channels.

    What would be the sequence for us to hook everything up properly and get the best result? 

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    • mattrcraig
      CraigFowler

      There are a couple of ways to do it. The way I think makes the most sense is to go DL32>Monitors>FOH>Livestream.  Monitor console is clock master, the other consoles slave off it.

      • May 28, 2020
    • mattrcraig
      GaryHiggins

      @mattrcraig 


      As Craig said there are a few ways to do this. A couple of considerations: Will you ever use preamps from the monitor board or always just the DL32 preamps? If you might sometimes use the monitor mixer preamps, the X32 then as the live feed board makes sense to me. Why waste any M32 mic pre's for the live feed when it will only mirror aes50? The other consideration is where the preamps of the DL32 are to be controlled from. The A port side of the DL controls preamps and its output assignments. So another possible scenario where the monitor position mixer controls preamps:


       


      M32 FOH A <>A X32 (as live feed) x32 sync A


       


      M32 FOH B<>A M32R B<>A DL32  (M32R as master. M32 FOH sync B)


       


      Monitor M32R controls DL outputs and all preamp control. M32R mirrors its inputs via aes50 to FOH. FOH mirrors aes50 to X32 for live stream. 

      • May 28, 2020
    • mattrcraig
      mattrcraig Craig, what side of the AES50 should I use for each connection?
      • May 28, 2020
    • mattrcraig
      CraigFowler

      The only one that really matters is the A socket on the DL32. The rest are interchangeable. However for consistency in routing tables, I’d go;


      DL32(A)>Monitors(B)


      Monitors(A)>FOH(B)


      FOH(A)>Livestream(B)

      • May 29, 2020
    • mattrcraig
      mattrcraig

      Ok, gotcha.


      What if we wanted to run the monitors out of the B side of the DL32, though?


      still use A side for the other boards.


      Do you foresee a problem doing it that way?

      • May 29, 2020
  • DwayneAasberg
    Super Contributor - Level 1
    2019-12-01

    Installed V4 on the M32 in our sanctuary.  My first real application was today.

    Question.  What do the colours of the bars in the RTA mean?

    Feedback.  Limiting Automix to ch1-8 is very limiting.  Our installation is hard wired stage to board and all our volunteers know where to find common stage signals on the board.  Remapping inputs to utilize Automix on ch1-8 is restrictive to the point of unusable.  Ideally it would be best to be able to choose any eight channels on the board to Automix.  However a workable compromise would be to allow selection of one of the four banks of eight (1-8, 9-16, 16-24, 25-32).

    Do like the reworked GUI.  Less Appley-Windowsy with good use of contrast for readabiity,  Definitely like the new channel Home screen.

    Hopefully somebody in Midas reads this stuff.
    Dwayne A

     

     

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    • DwayneAasberg
      KevinMaxwell


      @DwayneAasberg wrote:


      Installed V4 on the M32 in our sanctuary.  My first real application was today.


      Question.  What do the colours of the bars in the RTA mean?


      Feedback.  Limiting Automix to ch1-8 is very limiting.  Our installation is hard wired stage to board and all our volunteers know where to find common stage signals on the board.  Remapping inputs to utilize Automix on ch1-8 is restrictive to the point of unusable.  Ideally it would be best to be able to choose any eight channels on the board to Automix.  However a workable compromise would be to allow selection of one of the four banks of eight (1-8, 9-16, 16-24, 25-32).


      Do like the reworked GUI.  Less Appley-Windowsy with good use of contrast for readabiity,  Definitely like the new channel Home screen.


      Hopefully somebody in Midas reads this stuff.
      Dwayne A


       


       





      What do you use the Automix for in a church. Autmixers are not reliably usable for music they will make weird decisions and will bring some mics down when you don't want them to. They are only made for multiple mics for speaking like on a panel discussion. I use Automixers for the dialog parts in Musicals but I am using external ones. I have used over 30 channels at a time with this method.

      • December 1, 2019
    • DwayneAasberg
      DwayneAasberg

      Hey Kevin.


      Sorry I was not more clear.


      We do not use the AutoMixer for music.


      In the past we used the AutoMixer for panel discussions of 3-5 panelists. Seemingly it worked as intended.  In any event, we are now reduced to fader-riding as the channels that are available for that activity are hard-wired to inputs 17-24.  Yes, I know we now have all-powerful-selective-routing.  Sadly that will make matters more confusing in this instance.


      D

      • December 2, 2019
    • DwayneAasberg
      adam_nowak

      Hello Dwayne
      Thanks for your feedback on the 4.00


      The coloured RTA bars work just like the spectrograph : the redder the color, the higher the level
      This was already represented by the height of the bars, but this was one of the extra features
      You can deactivate the coloured RTA bars in Meters - RTA - 6th encoder.


      Breaking the Automix restriction to the first 8 channels is a quite requested change, and it is definitely up on our to do list. Unfortunately there were other things on that list, and that didnt make it to the 4.01 ... Hopefully soon

      Best regards

      • December 2, 2019
    • DwayneAasberg
      CraigBowers

      Can I add a query if it's expected that with V4.0 that on the M32, with 2 stage boxes daisy chained on AES-A that only 1 stagebox is represented in the AES-A box on the mixer (in Routing).  Where-as both are shown on AES-A in M32-Edit on the PC.


      This has given our techs some heart attacks as we early on had a lot of occurrences of the second stage box not showing online after startup, and techs learned to always check there first after start, and if not confirmed, shut things down and do the start sequence again.  (It seems to have stabilized now, but for a while to save time it was always better for us to turn the stageboxes on for a few seconds first, then off, before starting with the M32, then stageboxes, then amps).


      So because of that early history the absence of the visual confirmation of both stageboxes on AES-A in V4.0 has been jarring.


       

      • December 8, 2019
  • drice
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-06-13

    We have an M32 in our Broadcast TV station and the features are excellent, but we hate having to use up two faders for every stereo source input. I'm wondering if controlling a linked pair of inputs with a single fader might ever be a feature in a future firmware/software update?

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    • drice
      AnthonieHunter

      Did you consider controlling the pair with a DCA?

      • June 13, 2019
    • drice
      drice

      Using a DCA to control a stereo input is a great idea and I’m using four of them for that purpose currently. We’ve got about 10 stereo sources we’d like to have on single faders. The console has enough inputs for all of our sources, just trying to get the most frequently used ones on the top fader layer. And trying to get my sound ops used to a console that is not our analog 32 channel Verona!  Thanks for the input!

      • June 13, 2019
    • drice
      drice

      While playing around with the great options that everyone has been suggesting, I stumbled upon another possibility (provided you aren't concerned with keeping stereo separation on a particular input). This solution could also work as a kind of internal router, and works around the "routing in banks of eight only" limitation by allowing the placement of any single input on any fader. 


      Here's the theory (I have't actually tried it yet). Physically patch a cable between an available Aux Output and an XLR input in the 1-16 range (to put it on the first fader bank). Now you can internally route any one of your inputs to that Aux, and it will be available on that first bank's fader. Be sure to send that input prefader and pre-mute, then mute the actual input, so it does not feed the Main output from there. You'll now have full control of that input on the fader you chose, without having to change fader banks to get to it. You could send a stereo pair to that Aux and control it with that single fader (it will be summed mono of course), without burning a DCA or two top bank faders. 


      In our TV studio, we have to occasionally use different sources for different shows, and the mix can be unpredicatable, so having 1 or 2 "route-able" inputs can be really useful to keep the frequently used faders for that show on the top page/bank. We've got a lot of possible inputs from audio clip playback devices, graphics SFX, in-studio guest mics, phone callers, Skype guests and satellite guests, so it's not possible to keep them all on the first fader bank, and the mixer's installation makes it impractical to physically repatch before each show. I can save a scene for each possible scenario and just load the correct one once I know where all my sources are coming from for a particular show. 


      Thanks for all the great advice everyone, and I hope this idea can work for someone who might have been struggling with a similar issue (if it actually works and does not create some kind of audio black hole). 


       

      • June 15, 2019
    • drice
      KevinMaxwell


      @drice wrote:


      While playing around with the great options that everyone has been suggesting, I stumbled upon another possibility (provided you aren't concerned with keeping stereo separation on a particular input). This solution could also work as a kind of internal router, and works around the "routing in banks of eight only" limitation by allowing the placement of any single input on any fader. 


      Here's the theory (I have't actually tried it yet). Physically patch a cable between an available Aux Output and an XLR input in the 1-16 range (to put it on the first fader bank). Now you can internally route any one of your inputs to that Aux, and it will be available on that first bank's fader. Be sure to send that input prefader and pre-mute, then mute the actual input, so it does not feed the Main output from there. You'll now have full control of that input on the fader you chose, without having to change fader banks to get to it. You could send a stereo pair to that Aux and control it with that single fader (it will be summed mono of course), without burning a DCA or two top bank faders. 


      In our TV studio, we have to occasionally use different sources for different shows, and the mix can be unpredicatable, so having 1 or 2 "route-able" inputs can be really useful to keep the frequently used faders for that show on the top page/bank. We've got a lot of possible inputs from audio clip playback devices, graphics SFX, in-studio guest mics, phone callers, Skype guests and satellite guests, so it's not possible to keep them all on the first fader bank, and the mixer's installation makes it impractical to physically repatch before each show. I can save a scene for each possible scenario and just load the correct one once I know where all my sources are coming from for a particular show. 


      Thanks for all the great advice everyone, and I hope this idea can work for someone who might have been struggling with a similar issue (if it actually works and does not create some kind of audio black hole). 


       





      I am not understanding what this will give you unless you are talking about using a Mix Bus to mearge each pair of inputs.

      • June 16, 2019
    • drice
      drice

      Merging (summing) the stereo inputs to one fader is one possible use, the other is that this allows me to internally route any one of my inputs to the top bank of faders. Sure, I could do this by simply connecting that device to an input that already appears on the top layer, but the connections on the back of our mixer are not easily accessible, and depending on what sources we are using for a show, I might want to quickly place something on a top level fader that does not usually appear there. Some other mixers allow you to do this on an single input basis, but the M32 locks you into routing inputs to faders in banks of eight. 

      • June 17, 2019
  • RayMontreal
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-11

    Hi everyone,

    I hope this video helps to explain my problem, struggling to find the right words in english

     

    https://vimeo.com/372529561 

     

    got a MIdas MR18, I'm trying to use it in Ableton via TouchOSC, to control faders and mute buttons

    Now I'm on a Mac and I tried Osculator, I got everything to work except, for the life of me, I can't get any of my movements from ableton or the mixer to reflect on the TouchOSC.

    Ableton talks fine to the mixer, I just can’t figure out how to send it out to the iPad’s TouchOSC. ,

    My knowledge is limited on OSC and I can’t figure it out (I’m pretty good with technology in general).

    I made a map to kinda show my problem:  

     

    Screen Shot 2019-11-11 at 3.48.22 PM.pngScreen Shot 2019-11-11 at 7.04.25 PM.pngScreen Shot 2019-11-11 at 7.04.34 PM.png

    I need help. LOL

     

    Sorry for the poor English as I am French speaking in Montreal Canada,

     

    Thank you for taking the time to read this very long message!

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    • RayMontreal
      KenMitchell

      Hi @RayMontreal , 


       


      Looks like a fun project.  I love the graphic with the orange arrow and the matching orange text explaining the problem.  Well done.   However, I suspect the problem is actually above it with the connection between the mixer and Osculator.   In order to get feedback back from the MR18, Osculator has to listen for those messages as well as periodically re-subscribe to updates.   A couple of years ago a developed a utility called XAirRemote to serve as a bridge between OSC clients (TouchOSC, Lemur, etc) and the XAir/MAir mixers.  I hadn't thought about it but Osculator should be able to be used as a client as well.  


       


      Here's a link to the utility: https://sites.google.com/site/xairutilities/XAirRemote-1_2-OSX.zip?attredirects=0&d=1


       


      In your setup, you'll want to set it up between Osculator and the MR18. 


       


      Let me know what questions you have about the setup. 


       


      Ken

      • November 11, 2019
    • RayMontreal
      RayMontreal

      Well, first of all a very big thank you for replying to my message!


      The MR18 is currently being kept alive with an OSC Message (/xremote) tied to the Beat, so as long as Ableton is playing, the MR18 is alive and also in Ableton, if I move a fader, it does reflect it on the MR-18,


      so that part works! it's just not also being sent to the iPad...


      I want to duplicate the backmapping in Osculator so that it sends it also to the iPad, I just don't know how to get Osculator "talking" to MR-18 AND iPad at the same time. that Ð (and L and 1-16 in Osculator) is super confusing to me and I don't know how to deal with it.


      Having Osculator in there is already a big move for me as I prefer having a very bare minimum of apps open during shows...


      will definitely try your app, thank you!


      but if it's job is to keep MR18 awake, I am already doing that in Osculator and that is working.


      Best,


       


      Ray


       

      • November 11, 2019
    • RayMontreal
      RayMontreal

      my ini file looks like this:


      1 0 0 1 0
      1 16 17 17 18 21 40 45 46 49 51 54 0
      <92.168.0.123>
      <192.168.0.105>
      <192.168.0.182>
      <8000>
      <8000>
      #EOF


      but the MR18 listens to 10024 not 10023 like the XR18, so I think it might be the reason I'm getting a tail like;


       


      OSC Controller at IP <192.168.0.105>, receives on port <8000>, sends to port <8000>


        Listening for OSC Controller on <192.168.0.182>:<8000>


        Flags: verbose: 1, delay: 0ms, Transport: 0, Master: 1, Sync: 0


        Map (min/max): Ch 1/16, Aux 17/17, FxR 18/21, Bus 40/45, FxS 46/49, DCA 51/54, Bus Offset 0


       


      *******************************************************************************************


        Start of Log data:


       


      ->X,    8 B: /info~~~


      XAirConnect: Error sending data to XAir


       


       


       

      • November 11, 2019
    • RayMontreal
      KenMitchell

      Hi Ray, 


       


      The XR18 also uses 10024. 10023 is what the X32 uses. 


       


      Remove the "<" and ">" from the IP addresses and ports in your ini file.  


       


      You've also got <92.168.0.123> which I suspect should be 192.168.0.123.


       


      Ken

      • November 11, 2019
    • RayMontreal
      RayMontreal

      correctly writing my ini file made your app work,


      your app now logs correctly but I dont know what that brings to the table,


      in the tail I see both ipad and mr18 messages show up in the log


      but when I start osculator, it says port 8000 already being used error.


       


      I will NOT give up, my brain is struggling, but there has got to be a way to make all this work! haha

      • November 11, 2019
  • AntoniPal
    Triber Contributor
    2019-12-04

    Dear All, 

    I've noticed that automixer in Pro Series is still a sort of unknown feature. I've decided to create and share with You a short manual, that's aimed to explain the basics of use. 
    Feel free to put comments below if You'll still have issues with it. 
    Regards, A.

    CUST X2B SOLU1 UK1_Automixer Setup in Midas PRO Series Consoles_2019-12-04_Rev.0.pdf
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    • AntoniPal
      Ishai

      Thanks for this. Now if same could  be done for all the available effects, particulary for the more obscure ones... also, it needs to be mentioned that it needs to be turned on but here is the thing- Off mode is a muted green where as ON is "Greener " Green- as oppsed to different colors.....like red and green for example....

      • December 6, 2019
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    mahardee
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-03-03

    Hello all! I am new here and am looking for info on the M32 network side of things. I have connected and used our iPad to connect to both our M32 and X32 in the past but have not used it recently due to the pandemic. I pulled everything back out and the X32 worked perfectly, however the M32 was not connecting to my iPad (or vice versa) and so tried connecting via DHCP to see what IP it was pulling. I came to find out that it is pulling a 169.254 IP meaning it is NOT connecting to the router. I then checked the cable - cable works, then tried plugging directly into our unmanaged network switch running to our netowrk closet with managed switch and fierwall - still not getting an IP. Is it possible that my network card is bad?? I am in IT and have had our whole department look it over and so am looking to you guys! Any help would be great! Thank you. 

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    • mahardee
      Paul_Vannatto Are you certain that the ethernet cable is good? Also, are you plugged into the M32 ethernet port and not the Ultranet port (been there done that)?
      • March 3, 2021
    • mahardee
      GaryHiggins If you assign the m32 a static ip, (and saved it!.....if you don't your settings go away as soon as you go out of network setup) the iPad needs one as well, at least mine never worked very well not doing that. I had a pretty generic router that used 192.168.1.0 and my M32 was something like 192.168.1.32. The iPad set for something like 33. Anyway the iPad was ALWAYS good for skipping the 3rd group of the subnet. Hard to notice it sometimes as it looks correct upon quick look. It would say 255.255.0.0 instead of 255.255.255.0. It would refuse to connect over and over, once I changed to the correct number it connected perfectly right away. I am NOT in IT so you probably checked all that stuff and much more, but thought I would throw it out there anyway.
      • March 3, 2021
    • mahardee
      Capera

      Same here.....M32 has been in case for 6 months, now it will not connect over IP. Next to the plug: the yellow LED works, the green doesn't. Bad signal!!! Router will not connect as before, and in DHCP, nothing happens ( 169.254.xxx.xxx is set, but no comms to the client). With IPCONFIG/ALL command can be seen that the network is doing anything at all. Only one M32 has this issue, the others as well as two WINGs work fine. What is going on??? Anyone else these troubles?

      • Jan 20
    • mahardee
      Capera

      With a few other consoles (A&H, Mackie), a have found that the network transformer had broken connections to the PCB. Replace the dual network transformer > all oK. I checked the transformer in the M32 (built in in RJ45 bus), but all connections are fine. Does the M32 have a 'low level' service mode to check inside operations? I do sorts of this with Digico, a good help in times of system trouble!

      • Jan 20
  • Pgrant999
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-06-01

    Hello all!  I am fairly new to Digital audio and it's interfaces.  I have recently gone to work at a Church, and I inherited a Midas Pro1 and I am trying to research to see if I can interface the PRO1 via AES50 to the Behringer Ultranet in-ear system (P16, etc..., to be purchased asap).   

    In my research, someone mentioned that they will not natively talk because the PRO1 operates at 96kHz, and the Behringer stuff is 48kHz (I think).  

    So QUESTION IS: what do I need to do to get a route of 16 channels/mixes out to the Berhinger in-system? Hardware converter?  A different in-ear system?  

    HELP!  Any and all is greatly appreciated!

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    • Pgrant999
      GaryHiggins

      @Pgrant999 


      Hello. Besides the 96K clock the p16 system will not work with a Pro1 as it is a proprietary protocol also requiring an ultranet port. The pro1 doesn't have that and the P16 sytems work at 48/44k. So the P16 system is out-unless you get an X32 mixer or a Midas M32, both have the ultranet. If on a tight budget, you might want to look into the P2 monitor devices. They run from an xlr cable connected to a bus output. They are cheap and sound quite good, with the proper cable 2 buses (not sure if you also have a stagebox) can be linked for stereo operation. Otherwise you will need some other form of in ear system most of which can be very expensive. Pro1 is a very nice inheritance however! 


       


      EDIT: I just thought of 1 other possibility. Using a P16I. They accept either adat or analog inputs and then output those to P16. The analog inputs of it are 1/4 in but if you had a way to convert Pro1 ch outs to 1/4 balanced or unbalaced cable, it accepts 16 ch's of analog and then you could connect the P16M's to it.

      • June 1, 2020
    • Pgrant999
      ChaseMcKnight

      Hi @Pgrant999 

      As @GaryHiggins suggested, using a Behringer P16-I and coming out analog of the Pro1 (either rear XLRs or via DL stage box) would be the most affordable option. Integrating an X/M32 over AES50, while a flexible and convenient setup, would require a Klark Teknik Network bridge and expansion card - which is quite an investment if the sole purpose is to integrate with the P16 system.  

      • June 2, 2020
      • MIDAS PRO1 and Behringer in-ear system
        AlanLawson Dear Chase, while on this subject how about the DP48 with the Pro Series. We run a Pro 2 and a Pro 1 - love them! But we're keen to stay at 96K if possible... Ta, Alan
        • June 12, 2020
      • MIDAS PRO1 and Behringer in-ear system
        ChaseMcKnight Hi AlanLawson , this is possible; you will need a Klark Teknik Dn9650 Network bridge + KT-AES50 card to convert from 96kHz to 48kHz.
        • June 15, 2020
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