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  • mahdi95
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-12-28

    Hi,

    does midas pro1 rta on every input channel?

    my software is G3.4.6 and I haven't RTA in PEQ input channel graph.

    if anyone know how to activate rta please notify me.

     

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    • mahdi95
      zigson

      Hello


      in the FX-Rack of the analyser you'll find 2 buttons called CHANNEL and SOLO


      if you activate one of these buttons you will have the RTA overlaied to the P-EQ individuel view in the GUI.... (when soloing or selecting a given channel)

      • December 27, 2019
    • mahdi95
      ww-audio

      Hi zigson


      Go to the rta and press the button follow channel (or something like that)


      I had to do it today after full reset.


      Cheers Werner

      • December 28, 2019
    • mahdi95
      zigson

      hello Werner
      it was not me that posted the question ! I posted the solution (as you did as well)
      it was mahdi95 who posted initially that question !!

      • December 31, 2019
  • genesisaudiopro
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-07-09
    Few months ago i buy a mixer from someone on ebay, he state that the board was a unit return from midas, i use it on my home studio and wasworkinggreat but 3 weeks after start to have some problems, suddenly start to make a pop sound and all the input meters star to go crazy and all the. Output reproduce the same pop sound even after disconnecting everything from the board, i have to turn off to make the problem go away but after couple times is just making the sound. Does anyone having this problem.
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    • genesisaudiopro
      genesisaudiopro I get the board from individual seller on ebay, what i notice is that the box have a rma number on it wich tell me that the board was send out sometime before. I took the board to a local service center and they is a psu problem but they have that board for a almost 2 months now and still waiting from them to call me back.
      • July 9, 2020
    • genesisaudiopro
      DavidKnighton Hi Manuel. I would recommend retrieving the console from the 3rd party service center and sending to Music Tribe Las Vegas for service. They will be able to turn your repair around within a week or two. The only caveat is that the console was purchased 2nd hand, so there is no warranty. You can still have the console repaired, but they will assess a fee. You'll want to navigate to the support tab on the community page and submit a request for service. Someone should be able to get you an RMA.
      • July 9, 2020
    • genesisaudiopro
      DavidKnighton Hello Manual. If the PSU is dropping out, then it will cause pops. There could be an issue with the input board as well. Did you buy the console from MusicFactoryStore or Music Tribe US eBay store?
      • July 9, 2020
    • genesisaudiopro
      ChrisMoyles

      As of 5/28/21 -Just an FYI that this is a power supply issue and one of our m32s has been out of commission for more than two months due to a delayed, then botched repair by MusicTribe Las Vegas. There are currently no replacement units available to trade out and replacement power supplies are in short supply. The unit just went back in and Music Tribe promises it will be a couple day turn around. They ate the shipping on this go-round, which amounts to $150 or so. I also called the parts department and backordered an extra power supply. Be wary. I had hopes for Midas retaining some of it's previously stellar customer service, but it looks like MusicTribe/behringer customer service has...well, behringer quality levels.

      • May 28
  • iTheAlterEgo
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-07-19

    Hello.

    I am new to the Midas M32 R I am having problems routing my USB to my monitor outs. Can someone help?

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    • iTheAlterEgo
      GaryHiggins

      Hi @iTheAlterEgo Can you give specifics as to what you are wanting to do? Are you talking about DAW track playback or the stereo USB playbck aux 7/8 or something else?

      • July 19, 2019
    • iTheAlterEgo
      iTheAlterEgo

      Hello.


      Thanks for the reply.


      I have my M32R setup  where AUX-IN USB (My computer) plays from channels AUX 1 & 2


      I am trying to route 2 of the XLR outputs to a piece of outboard gear (An AKAI sampler) 


      This way, anything that is played on my computer can be sampled at any time.


      How can I achieve this?

      • July 20, 2019
  • ghost56
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-02-08

    Hi

    let me explain a bit about myself, last july i knew absoloutely nothing about mixing desks, daws, vsts,trackers,chainers midside recording techniques,ambient recording,spot miking and everything else that studio engineers do.

    Since August i have had to learn quite a lot midas m32,midas m32r,yamaha dm2000,yamaha dm100

    a lot of the stuff i have mentioned i can buy a book and read about it but mixing desks are different you need to practise practise then practise some more, only problem i cant afford a mixing desk for my home soi saw the m32 edit software (i also saw berhinger x32 edit) and it looked like a good way to get to know the desk outside college, my problem is it does not look like any of the videos ive seen.

    So any info would be appreciated ( i have a head like a bag of ferrets wearing work boots most days)

    Reg

    Me

     

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    • ghost56
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Ian @ghost56 


      Welcome to the forum. The reason you are seeing an app (M32-Edit and X32-Edit) that looks almost identical to the console display is because those videos are quite old. The original app interface did indeed emulate the console display. The abandoned that interface for this new one about 3 years ago (M32-Edit 2.5 was the last version of the old interface). 


       


      There is nothing wrong with the new interface and most of us have adapted to using it and it has all of the new features that the old one won't have.


       

      • February 8, 2020
    • ghost56
      ghost56

      Hi Paul


      thanks for your input I will probably use this software further down the line. But for me if i can have somthing that  resembles the actual desk i am learing on and will work offline then I am a happy bunny.


      The main object of using the old software would be offline and educational, just to let me keep the layout of the board in my head and practise making scenes.


      So i will search for a legacy download or simply ask midas/behringer if they could provide me a copy.


      Thanks to yourself and anyone else who replied to my post. I have tried to leave you kudos but dont know if the button works.


      Reg


      Ian

      • February 8, 2020
    • ghost56
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Ian @ghost56 


      What OS are you using (Windows, Mac, linux)? I have copies of the older interface and can provide. But I leave in an hour to do sound for a monthly (all day) jamboree.


       

      • February 8, 2020
    • ghost56
      ghost56

      Hi Paul ,


      hope you enjoy your day sounds fun, I am using windows xp sp3 32 bit or windows 7 64 bit, I usually keep my xp machine offline as i use it to run cantible lite and free vsts, still learning the ropes with this though so if you have the older edit for any of these mchines I would be grateful.


      But I have to ask if you would mind me sharing it with the rest of my college class if you say no its ok i wont do it.


      Also you may notice me being offline pretty quickly somtimes The laptops I use are pretty old and the batteries


      tend not to hold a charge (bit like myself these days).


      Reg


      Ian

      • February 8, 2020
    • ghost56
      KevinMaxwell


      @ghost56 wrote:


      Hi Paul ,


      hope you enjoy your day sounds fun, I am using windows xp sp3 32 bit or windows 7 64 bit, I usually keep my xp machine offline as i use it to run cantible lite and free vsts, still learning the ropes with this though so if you have the older edit for any of these mchines I would be grateful.


      But I have to ask if you would mind me sharing it with the rest of my college class if you say no its ok i wont do it.


      Also you may notice me being offline pretty quickly somtimes The laptops I use are pretty old and the batteries


      tend not to hold a charge (bit like myself these days).


      Reg


      Ian





      As Paul said the last version that looked like the console was V2.5 and I just recently sent that version to someone that had never used a digital console before. Because it is a good training tool. But as others have indicated there are incompatibilities between Edit V2.5 and the consoles running version 3 or 4 of the firmware.  If you didn’t get V2.5 from Paul please PM me your email address and I will send it to you. There should be no reason not to freely share it with others because it is a training tool. It isn’t like it is of any use but to learn how the mixer works. Just be sure to tell them not to use it with a console running the newer firmware. It will sort of work but you could get unexpected results. You can upload a scene built with version 2.5 of the edit program but into a console running a newer firmware and it will work.

      • February 9, 2020
  • JohnShepherd
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-01-01

    Hi, I'm looking at these 2 consoles as options to add to my RCF speaker system. I'm aware the fx processing of the X32 does not compensate for latency. I'm looking for the story behind the fx in each. 

    Are they identical processors? 

    Does latency mean much in smaller rooms? I don't have a large rig. 2 RCF 708 subs and 2 RCF 745A cabs for front. Thanks very much, Shep

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    • JohnShepherd
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi John @JohnShepherd ,


      The FX engine is identical in the X32, M32, X-Air and M-Air family of consoles.


       

      • January 1, 2020
    • JohnShepherd
      KevinMaxwell


      @JohnShepherd wrote:


      Hi, I'm looking at these 2 consoles as options to add to my RCF speaker system. I'm aware the fx processing of the X32 does not compensate for latency. I'm looking for the story behind the fx in each. 


      Are they identical processors? 


      Does latency mean much in smaller rooms? I don't have a large rig. 2 RCF 708 subs and 2 RCF 745A cabs for front. Thanks very much, Shep





      The way that the consoles that compensate for latency work is they add delay to everything to keep everything in line. So you have more overall latency in your system. The only problem with not having this is if you send the same signal thru 2 different paths (with one of them going thru an FX)  and then combine them, one of them will be out of time with the other one. That is not good.


       


      So it is like the old joke – a guy comes into the doctor wildly waving his arm above his head and says – Doctor it hurts when I do this and the doctor replies – then don’t do that.


       


      So don’t route the same signal thru 2 different paths and then combine then. At least not without testing to see if they are still time aligned.


       


      And here is a little hint if you have never tried it, add a little bit of delay to your feed to your main speakers so they are time aligned with the acoustic signal coming off of the stage. And then try turning that delay on and off and see if it helps. I always time align my sound systems to the stage and it makes it much smoother sounding in the house. I like to say that with it delayed the speakers have a tendency to disappear and with the delay off you notice the sound coming out of the speakers instead of it sounding like it is coming from the stage.


       

      • January 1, 2020
  • AlexShostak
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-04-18

    Hi, we just got a used Midas PRO1 not to long ago and it came with a firmware version G3.4.6-(Build-10), today I download and installed the latest firmware from Musictribe website, and now the console shows G3.4.6-(Build-9), did I just went a firmware back? It is kind of confusing because the firmware we just installed added the new features that we didnt have before (VSS4 Reverb...), so does Midas go back on numbers when it comes to firmware builds? or was there some custom firmware installed in the console before we got it?

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    • AlexShostak
      Ishai

      Alex- while that new reverb is AWSOME- do NOT use it in a show or at the minimum do Not edit it live- you will loose audio as there are not enough computing resorces in the console.  I lost audio for about 3 seconds attemting to edit the reverb during a show and it was confirmed by other users calling in to the music groop as it happened to them. (You can no longer call in, it realy sucks!)


      Ishai

      • April 18, 2020
    • AlexShostak
      KevinMaxwell


      @Ishai wrote:


      Alex- while that new reverb is AWSOME- do NOT use it in a show or at the minimum do Not edit it live- you will loose audio as there are not enough computing resorces in the console.  I lost audio for about 3 seconds attemting to edit the reverb during a show and it was confirmed by other users calling in to the music groop as it happened to them. (You can no longer call in, it realy sucks!)


      Ishai





      When you say you lost audio are you talking about losing all audio or just the audio that was going thru the reverb?

      • April 19, 2020
    • AlexShostak
      Ishai

      I lost all audio. 


      Ishai

      • April 24, 2020
    • AlexShostak
      Nigel67

      Hi @Ishai , I saw your post on the webinar yesterday regarding the issue with the VSS4.  Personally I have not heard of this issue, however I think you were on the late webinar which was aimed at the USA audience, so maybe you have been in contact with the Vegas Team.  I will send you a private message so that I can get your e-mail address and we can start discussing the loss of audio you mentioned.  We may also need a video from you so that we can re-produce the drop out.  I will update this post for other watchers when we identify the issue.

      • May 12, 2020
    • AlexShostak
      Nigel67

      As promised, I am updating everyone regarding the report of the VSS4 audio drop out.  I have checked the console logs that the customer kindly sent over.  The issue was found to be that the wireless router (Mixtender app) was connected to the console and powered, but the server on the console had not been started.  The console therefore thinks that the router is part of the system i.e an IO box and sends messages to it trying to identify what the unit is.  The router however is on a totally different network and also cannot send messages back to the console (it is a 'dumb' unit).  The MC continues to send out messages which eventually start to swamp it.  What tipped the MC over the edge was when the adjustment of the VSS4 was made.  This sent more messages to the MC to change the parameters which caused the application to restart and a loss of audio for 2 -3 seconds.  When switching the server on, it switches the ethernet port on the MC into another state where it isn't sending out message to identify the unit connected.  A customer support notification was sent out, however with people buying consoles second hand, etc, it has probably not been seen by a lot of people.  I have attached the notification here.  To sum up, if you have a wireless router connected and powered, then the server should be started.  Otherwise, we advise that if the wireless router is not being used, then to either switch it off or unplug it.  I would advise that if you do use the mixtender app, then best practice would be to switch the server on everytime the console is powered.  This issue is quite random, it doesn't happen that often.  Many people work with the router switched on but the server off and have never experienced the issue.

      Midas_PRO SERIES Ethernet Control Port Connection Service Support Document.pdf
      • May 27, 2020
  • shadwell
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-12-07

    Hello all, 

    As you know the M32C has 2 1/4 out on the back labled "monitoring outoput" I would like to send a paif of mix buses out to these physical outs. 

    I'm having trouble understand if that is possible.  Please help if you can. 

     

     

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    • shadwell
      Paul_Vannatto


      @shadwell wrote:


      Hello all, 


      As you know the M32C has 2 1/4 out on the back labled "monitoring outoput" I would like to send a paif of mix buses out to these physical outs. 





      Solo the desired mixbus master strip


       

      • December 7, 2019
    • shadwell
      shadwell

      PAUL  thank you!  


       

      • December 7, 2019
    • shadwell
      shadwell

      Im sorry, Paul you are correct in that by soloing the mix bus it in fact passes to the monitoring out.  


       


      I just simply want to route the output of mix bus 1&2 to the monitoring out with no use of solos. It's for an IEM mix. The other IEM mixes would come off the stage box. 


      For the the life of me , i find this box hard to use and I must say I am starting to think I might have purchased the wrong item.   I hope with some elbow grease I can turn this feeling around. 


       

      • December 7, 2019
    • shadwell
      CraigFowler

      There's monitoring and there's monitoring.  There are the console's 16 buses you'd use for monitoring (eg for wedges or IEMs,) then there's the console's stereo solo bus you'd use for solo-ing a particular channel in your headphones\nearfield monitors.


       


      The dedicated "monitor" sockets on the rear of the console are tied to the console's solo bus.  They'll only ever output whatever's in the console's solo bus, unless nothing is soloed, in which case they'll output whatever is set in Monitor>Monitor Source option of the console.


       


      The other XLR\TRS sockets on the rear of the console can have any bus routed to them (including the solo bus.)


       


      What you cannot do is route a (non-solo) bus to the dedicated monitor sockets (at least not without sacrificing the console's solo functionality.)


       


      If you let us know what console and stageboxes you've got, as well as which signals you'd like to appear on which outputs, we can probably figure out how to route it for you.

      • December 7, 2019
    • shadwell
      shadwell

      @CraigFowler   thanks very much for your patient response.  Ill get back to you with some thing more after some rest, its been a good long 12hr day and im more that a little fried. 


       


      im really hoping I can feel good about this purchase, but right now im feeling really bummed out. 


       


      best, A

      • December 7, 2019
  • DavidStackhouse
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-08-22

    Hello... I had heard/read that connection from the M Air app to the MR-18 via external router is more reliable than via its internal router, so I bought an external router - a Linksys EA8300.

    First, just to be thorough, I tested it conventionally with my Xfinity internet router, found that the Linksys router functions as intended, and updated its firmware. Then I plugged it into the ethernet jack on the MR-18 and set its Remote switch to Ethernet.

    I set my Android device to connect to the Linksys router wifi, which it does, and says "Connected, no internet" (which makes sense).

    I open the M Air app, and the connection window appears. Strangely, in the lower left it says...
    "Wifi connected to <unknown ssid>
    1.0.3"
    Then, whether I touch Search or Connect, either way the window that appears says...
    "Searching...
    Wifi connected to <unknown ssid>"
    ...but never connects.

    I've tinkered with the IP address, and also with the Wifi lock, but still with no success.

    One thing of note: Apparently, both the MR18 and the Linksys router assign themselves by default the IP address 192.168.1.1. I don't know if that's the issue, but I don't know how to change that for one or the other.

    Bottom line... can anyone help me get this external router working right? If not, do I really even need it? So far the MR-18's internal router has worked just fine. Thanks for your help.

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    • DavidStackhouse
      GaryHiggins You need to make your XR18 settings for the ethernet (or wifi) while you are still actually connected via the built in router. Once saved you can then put the switch in the ethernet position and connect via the direct connection. Settings otherwise do not get saved.
      • August 22, 2020
      • M Air app not connecting to MR-18 via external router
        DavidStackhouse Thanks for replying, Gary.... and what exactly would this settings be, and in what screens? Thanks much...
        • August 22, 2020
      • M Air app not connecting to MR-18 via external router
        GaryHiggins Setup/network pages in M-Air
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        • August 22, 2020
    • DavidStackhouse
      GaryHiggins I might try a static ip, try something like 192.168.1.18 for ip, use 255.255.255.0 for mask and use the router ip for gateway 192.168.1.1 or leave gateway blank. There are other options if that’s a no go. Maybe dhcp next.
      • August 22, 2020
    • DavidStackhouse
      john0121 Hi David, You can find the detailed steps of connecting with an external router in the following FAQ:

      https://musictribecommunity.powerappsportals.com/en-us/knowledgebase/article/6886
      • August 24, 2020
    • DavidStackhouse
      DavidStackhouse Thanks, Gary and John... I'll give it a try!
      • August 24, 2020
    • DavidStackhouse
      DavidStackhouse Gary and John, I finally got around to trying your suggestions, but still have no connection via this router.

      I know the router works, because I tested it with our home network before trying to use it with the MR-18.

      I connected the same cable as I used during that test from the Ethernet port on the MR-18 to the Internet port on the external router. The remote switch on the MR-18 is set to the left for Ethernet.

      I have named the external router network "StackLinksys". The attached picture is of the screen of my Android tablet, showing I am successfully connected to the external router via wifi. (Available networks listed are obviously other networks in range, like my home network and my next door neighbors.)

      But, having tried all the methods you suggested, the M Air app still does not see the MR-18 via the external router and thus cannot connect as such. If I switch the MR-18 to Access Point, my tablet sees and connects to it just fine without the help of the external router, just as it always has.

      Have you any more thoughts and suggestions on how to get this external router working?

      But really, what's the point? What am I gaining by getting this external router working, other than putting another piece of equipment into the signal chain that could potentially fail when I need it most?

      Thanks again for all your help. Quite frustrated...   - DS.
      • August 29, 2020
  • colino_ltapl
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-02-19

    Hi guys, 

    I have a question and i hope we all can learn from each another. 

    Recently i have updated the firmware of the DP48 to 1.2, after which i am not able to remote control the other units via the 1st unit. 

    Is there a minimum unit to setup in order to do remote control of the other unit? Or is there a special CAT5 Cables we should be using in order for the connectivitiy to get thru. 
    Please take note that all my 5 units has signals passing thru from the M32 Console. 

    Hope to hear from you guys.

    Cheers!

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    • colino_ltapl
      Paul_Vannatto


      @colino_ltapl wrote:


      Recently i have updated the firmware of the DP48 to 1.2, after which i am not able to remote control the other units via the 1st unit. 





      Are you trying to change the group names and assignments from the first DP48 or from the M32? If it is from the first DP48 (in the chain), do you have it set  with the remote on (its device ID should say MSTR) and the rest should have remote on and should have unique device ID. Once that is setup, on the master (first) DP48, goto the Broadcast line and press the encoder. 


       


      If you are trying to send from the M32 Library, AES50 screen, we found a bug which the fix will be part of the next release.


       

      • February 19, 2020
    • colino_ltapl
      colino_ltapl

      Hi Paul,


      Appreciate your replies. 


      just to recap, the first DP48 on master and the rest are on their on IDs, after which punch in the broadcast on the first unit and select the other unit ID to control them correct? 


      Unfortunately it doesn't seems to be working. Did i miss out any step?

      • February 19, 2020
    • colino_ltapl
      Paul_Vannatto


      @colino_ltapl wrote:


      Unfortunately it doesn't seems to be working. Did i miss out any step?





      Did you turn on Remote on all the DP48's before pushing the Broadcast?

      • February 19, 2020
  • bornalonghorn
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-09-03

    Again... probably another easy one:

     

    How can you access all 40 input channels on the Midas M32C?  Does this take a dl32 and dl16 linked together?  

    Thanks!  

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    • bornalonghorn
      DaveMorrison 38 channels is a more realistic number. The last two channels are hard wired to the front panel USB stick. You could get all 40 channels using the rear USB interface for 32 channels digital audio plus any other physical inputs mapped to the 6 Aux Ins (+ two front panel USB ins). If you want 38 XLR inputs, you could use a 3x DL16, or 2x DL32, or 5x Behringer SD8... Any combination of DL32, DL16, S32, S16, SD16, SD8 that will give you more than 38 inputs. The SD16 and SD8 have combo XLR/quarter inch inputs. You may also want to consider the X32 Rack which is about the same price as the M32c and has 16 XLR inputs and 6 quarter inch inputs.
      • September 2, 2020
    • bornalonghorn
      DanielPaine As Dave mentioned. Maximum mixable channels on any one M32 is 38 channels. Thats not to say you can't route more channels through AES50 (48ch bi-directional) from multiple boxes. You still can only mix 38. DL32 is designed for splitting to 2 consoles (for/mon) via A and B. DL16 is designed to be daisy chained to one console. So the only method of linking DL32 and DL16 is to do M32C(A)->(A)DL16(B)->(A)DL32. If you went through the DL32 first you would not get the pass though of IO to the next box without some serious creative patching! Alternative is you can run each box separately from M32 A & B. 32channels of 1, 6 channels of the other
      • September 3, 2020
    • bornalonghorn
      GaryHiggins Don’t forget the M32C does not have physical aux in ch’s. So to get 38 inputs in its case, you would need to use aux remap and then assign 6 aes50 ch’s. If no duplicates are expected and desired you would need additional ch count sources beyond 32 preamps. A DL32 and a SD8 or 2 DL16’s and an SD8 minimally. With a DL32 and DL16 and M32C as there are no aux inputs, it does make more sense to use both aes50 ports, A for the DL32 and B for the DL16 (or the reverse). That way you can access the first 6 preamps from the appropriate port for the aux ch’s. For any other M/X32 using a piggy backed DL32/16 isn't that crazy (imo) The output ports of each stagebox are fixed to specific aes50 ch's, the DL16 inputs would just be seen as aes50a 33-48 by the mixer.
      • September 3, 2020
      • Midas M32C - How do I get all 40 inputs?
        PetervandenBerg Gary, i am Peter and you made for me DAW to M32 scene... do you know me... how can i reach you i have some problem i have no sound only when i set a track on solo. Kind Regrads Peter van den Berg: [email protected] or [email protected] I hope you contact me please
        • September 4, 2020
      • Midas M32C - How do I get all 40 inputs?
        GaryHiggins Hi Peter, there are no pm’s yet in this new forum, so best to start a new thread, I’ll keep a look out.
        • September 4, 2020
    • bornalonghorn
      bornalonghorn Thanks, gentlemen!
      • September 3, 2020
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