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  • ChasHands
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-09-11
    My setup:
     
    32 inputs of mic and DI into Midas DL32 Stage Box running through the Behringer Cat5 standard 50m reel to the console.  There are no secondary consoles in play.
     
    I choose AES-50A 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 25-32 as my input sources for the four input banks.  Everything functions as expected.
     
    I connect the KT DN32 USB card to a Mac laptop running a current OS and a current version of ProTools to record, and I also hope to playback as a virtual soundcheck.
     
    FYI - I also record USB flash drive copies of the LR mix each night (recording pre-LR dynamics and pre-LR EQ) so I am only capturing the sounds of the channel processing and mix blends, and I can also use those as general speaker tuning reference material at a new venue, however I would like to be able to work on individual channel sounds.
     
    My expectation of the KT USB card would be that it is capturing raw channel signals, “post" head amp gain (in this case DL32 head amps), and “pre" any console processing (HPF, Polarity, EQ, dynamics, inserts, etc).
    Is that correct?
     
    My expectation after I successfully captured a 32 track ProTools file - which I did - is that I could have a channel by channel virtual soundcheck from the Pro Tools playback, and work on fine tuning channel processing as if the player was playing in front of me.
    Is that correct?
     
    I setup ProTools to recognize the DN32 as the master interface and clock source.  In ProTools, I selected the DN32 as the input device, assigned Input 1 to Channel 1, etc... up to assigning Channel 32 to Input 32, and successfully recorded a 32 channel session from the live event.
     
    Subsequently, in ProTools, I selected the DN32 as the output device, and I assigned Ch 1 to Output 1, etc…. up to assigning Channel 32 to Output 32.
     
    On the M32 Routing Page, on the Inputs tab, I selected Card 1-8, Card 9-16, Card 17-24, Card 25-32 as my input sources for the four input banks.
     
    I’m expecting each channel to see an individual ProTools track associated with that channel - hopefully, coming in through a Trim knob set to “0” so that the channel sees the input at the identical gain that it would have been from the DL32 Stage Box with the original gain of “X” dB dialed in.
    Is that correct?
     
    I’m not seeing any audio except on Channel 1 which is totally overloaded.
     
    Do I have a Midas / KT issue, or perhaps a ProTools issue?
     
    This seems very simple, but I'm not getting the expected result.  Comments?
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    • ChasHands
      garyh

      On the inputs page you want either local or aes50a ch’s, not card. Local for whatever m32 ch’s used and aes50a for whatever DL32 chi’s you are using. That’s when the record section (at the bottom of the inputs page in m32-edit) is set active and recording, when playback is active then you want card ch’s. You set that by selecting play at that same location. Also in card out set that to whatever inputs you used as well, that is whatever ch’s you want sent to your card to record. 

      • September 11, 2019
    • ChasHands
      ChasHands

      Well - obviously my earlier reply just dissappeared into the ether...



       


      Your suggestions seem to be more oriented to using the M32 and DN32 USB card in a studio context, and exploring the abilities of the M32 as a DAW control surface.


       



      I am not trying to go back and forth between recording and playback as if it was a recording session.  I am not trying to control the DAW.  I am also not running additional control software on a laptop (the M32Edit software?)  I am just trying to acquire 32 channels of previously recorded soundcheck material to fine tune console channel sounds at a subsequent venue. 


       


      I am under the impresssion that I can playback DAW tracks as soundcheck material during a live concert setup without necessarily putting the M32 into "DAW Control" mode.  Is that correct?




       


      Perhaps I have misunderstood...


       


      You say "On the inputs page you want either local or aes50a ch’s, not card..." How would selecting my stage box or my local inputs access the playback of audio from my DAW?


       


      To restate the details of my first post, I am initially sourcing audio from my stage box via AES50A, and routing that into a 32 track ProTools session successfully.  That was accomplished by setting M32 inputs to the appropriate AES50A banks 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 25-32, and then by using the ProTools Playback engine setup to locate and select the KT DN32 card as the master interface, and assigning inputs 1:1... 32:32  Recording happened with no problem.


       


      On playback, In ProTools, I  assigned each of 32 tracks of audio to the corresponding mono outputs (1:1... 32:32).  On the M32 inputs page I selected Card 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 25-32 as my M32 channel1-32 sources.  This is where I have the problem.  I only get audio on Channel 1.


       


      I'm not sure how your suggestion applies to my situation or what I am trying to acomplish.


       


      Please elaborate.

      • September 12, 2019
    • ChasHands
      DaveMorrison

      @ChasHands 


      It looks like your setup is correct. This is the way it's supposed to work. Now it's troubleshooting time. Do you really have 32 channels on the USB? Is the M32 receiving all 32? Under the Setup > Card tab, Do you have 32 In/Outs selected? If you want to post your current scene file, we can take a look.

      • September 12, 2019
    • ChasHands
      ChasHands

      Well, thank you for confirming that this is something that should be possible, and that my general approach seems sound.


      That’s a good thought to look  at the Card set up page.  I was unaware of that page until I watched a Music Group webinar (with Justin? & John?) this morning. If I recall correctly, there are 4 options determining how many outputs and how many inputs.


       


      As my recording happened exactly as intended, I conclude I have 32 out.


       


      It seems like the input options were 32X32 and 32X8.


       


      Even if it were set to 32X8, why would I only see audio on channel 1?   I think I would see audio on channels 1 through 8.


       


      There is definitely audio evenly distributed on every on every track  of the recording.


      I will be on site tomorrow, and be able to check some things and get some scene files at that time. The console is living onsite for a 10 week show.  It is possible I have an output configuration wrong in ProTools but I have also been working through that process this week, and believe I did it correctly.

      • September 12, 2019
  • Trusound
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-10-03

    As i am trying to do the recent firmware update, i am experiencing heavy malfunction.
    After finishing the procedure, BOTH consoles do not boot up, but remain in the linux text screen asking for
    MC -1 login:

    Creating a ticket for service support seems to be an impossible task also.
    Has somebody got an idea, how to resolve this very unpleasant limbo?

    Thanks in advance, Andi

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    • Trusound
      Trusound

      For instance: Is there such a thing like a bootloader, that i can use on my usb stick to reboot the console?

      • October 3, 2019
    • Trusound
      ChaseMcKnight

      Hi @Trusound 

      Are you turning the consoles on while the USB drive is still connected? If so, take out the USB drive and boot. If this isn't the case -- what firmware were the Pro1 & Pro2 on before updating? Do you currently have a support ticket submitted? 

      • October 3, 2019
    • Trusound
      zigson


      @Trusound wrote:


      As i am trying to do the recent firmware update, i am experiencing heavy malfunction.
      After finishing the procedure, BOTH consoles do not boot up, but remain in the linux text screen asking for
      MC -1 login:
      For instance: Is there such a thing like a bootloader, that i can use on my usb stick to reboot the console?





      Hello Andi.... yes there is...


      this same thing happened to me once, and I was quite in panic... (the reason was simple and stupid : after the update the console reboots by itself after you quit the updater (push the button "quit" and wait !!.!!). I was too busy and did not wait this reboot and after shut down  the console it never wanted to boot up again (same problem at yours !!)


      fortunately we have a very responsif  "Midas-Support-Service" here in France and they  helped me to fix the thing within a couple of hours.


      The thing to do - contact your support-service (distributor, importer, etc) - call them on the phone instead of sending mail or creating tickets...; they will provide you a bootable system called "MidasRecoverySystem.zip" (which goes on an USB-Stick and you boot from this stick) - than install a brandnew (or older system); re-boot the console and upgrade again to the latest Firmware....


      if you can't find this particular USB-bootable-system at your retailer/repair/support-service, I can (maybe) provide you one of these.....; just let me know....




      Midas-Support wrote :

      You will need a good quality USB stick containing a FAT32 (Windows) partition with at least 8 GB available. For safety, this should be a separate stick to that used during normal updates, and should be clearly marked.

      Step 1 – Download the right zipped file for your console

      Step 2 – Un-zip the file to the root of the USB stick, the un-zipped file that lives on the root of the USB stick will be called “MIDASRecoverySystem” 


      Step 3 – Insert the USB stick into a port on the failed board; ensure no other USB sticks are connected

      
Step 4 – Power on the console

      
Step 5 – Wait several minutes; the Updater application will display the current stage of the recovery process

      Step 6 – In case of Pro3/6/9, if a licence file was successfully backed up, it will be restored to the console after the new image has been installed; if licence backup failed, the console will need relicensing

      Step 7 – When prompted, by a green message saying it is now safe to shut down the console, perform a hard power down, remove the usb stick and start the console up.

      Step 8 – Once the console has booted, the stick may be reinserted for restoring show files and presets libraries using the GUI's File Manager

      Step 9 - Care should be taken to not leave the recovery stick in the console when rebooting, or the recovery process will be repeated

      Step 10 - Log files will remain on USB stick and can be used to diagnose the original fault
PLEASE SEND THE LOG FILE THAT IS CREATED, TO OUR CARE DEPARTMENT TO DIAGNOSE THE FAILURE REASON

      (in the “MIDASRecoverySystem” root = logfile”) – You can cut and paste this into a mail to [email protected]





       

      • October 3, 2019
    • Trusound
      zigson


      @Trusound wrote:


      As i am trying to do the recent firmware update, i am experiencing heavy malfunction.
      After finishing the procedure, BOTH consoles do not boot up, but remain in the linux text screen asking for
      MC -1 login:


      .........For instance: Is there such a thing like a bootloader, that i can use on my usb stick to reboot the console?





      Hello Andi.... yes there is...


      this same thing happened to me once, and I was quite in panic... (the reason was, in my case, simple and stupid : after the update the console reboots by itself after you quit the updater (push the button "quit" and wait !!.!!). I was too busy and did not wait this reboot and after shut down the console it never wanted to boot up again (same problem as yours !!)


      fortunately we have a very responsif "Midas-Support-Service" here in France and they helped me to fix the thing within a couple of hours.


      The thing to do - contact your support-service (distributor, importer, etc) - call them on the phone instead of sending mail or creating tickets...; they will provide you a bootable system called "MidasRecoverySystem.zip" (which goes on an USB-Stick and you boot from this stick) - than install a brandnew (or older system); re-boot the console and upgrade again to the latest Firmware....


      if you can't find this particular USB-bootable-system at your retailer/repair/support-service, I can (maybe) provide you one of these.....; just let me know....










      Midas-Support wrote :

      You will need a good quality USB stick containing a FAT32 (Windows) partition with at least 8 GB available. For safety, this should be a separate stick to that used during normal updates, and should be clearly marked.

      Step 1 – Download the right zipped file for your console

      Step 2 – Un-zip the file to the root of the USB stick, the un-zipped file that lives on the root of the USB stick will be called “MIDASRecoverySystem” 


      Step 3 – Insert the USB stick into a port on the failed board; ensure no other USB sticks are connected

      
Step 4 – Power on the console

      
Step 5 – Wait several minutes; the Updater application will display the current stage of the recovery process

      Step 6 – In case of Pro3/6/9, if a licence file was successfully backed up, it will be restored to the console after the new image has been installed; if licence backup failed, the console will need relicensing

      Step 7 – When prompted, by a green message saying it is now safe to shut down the console, perform a hard power down, remove the usb stick and start the console up.

      Step 8 – Once the console has booted, the stick may be reinserted for restoring show files and presets libraries using the GUI's File Manager

      Step 9 - Care should be taken to not leave the recovery stick in the console when rebooting, or the recovery process will be repeated

      Step 10 - Log files will remain on USB stick and can be used to diagnose the original fault

      
PLEASE SEND THE LOG FILE THAT IS CREATED, TO OUR CARE DEPARTMENT TO DIAGNOSE THE FAILURE REASON (in the “MIDASRecoverySystem” root = logfile”)


       





       

      • October 3, 2019
    • Trusound
      Trusound

      Hi Zigson,


      thank you much for your help. I recently got in touch with a midas man here in germany. He sent me a recovery file, that contained the folowing file:
      DL2G3.4.4rel-14.image
      Therefore our PRO1 Console now thinks, she's a PRO2. In accordance she does not recognize her DSP within the network.


      So now i am searching for DL1G3.4.4rel-14.image. Can You help?
      Thanks again, Andi

      • October 4, 2019
  • New
    althea1076
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-04-06

    Hi folks,

    I recently purchased an MR18, and my Macbook (M1 Chip) will not recognize the MR18 as an audio device.  An old 2015 macbook  recognized it no problem, so I think it has something to do with the new M1 architecture. 

    Is there plans to release a driver to make the MR18 class compliant with current Macs?  Or is there a workaround so I can record via my MR18 to my current gen Macbook?  Would really like to keep this thing 

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    • althea1076
      Nigel67 Hi althea1076, all our USB USB audio / midi devices are fully UAC2.0 class compliant and do not require drivers under MAC OS and will continue to work under CoreAudio as before. You will need to take this up with Apple. However, we haven't received any complaints from other customers so this could be a set up issue rather than an incompatibility. Make sure the MR18 is running the latest software version.
      • Apr 6
    • althea1076
      Anacrousered I already mentioned this in the beginning of this year (CAS-422198-R6R0B2-CRM:0048100004722) ... Both Apple and you say the problem is on the other one's side ... I tried latest Midas version and updated macOS Big Sur to 11.4 in the hope something would have changed but no progression ... it's a pity because I like the MR18 but can't use it anymore as I can't regulate the volume
      • Jun 18
    • althea1076
      epeltzman

      I was having this same problem, driving myself crazy trying to get audio to send out of CoreAudio and through the M-Air interface running Big Sur 11.4. I did, however just fix it (I think). I reset my MR18 twice and am running 11.7firmware version. transferred it to another machine running the same OS, and got it working there. I transferred back to my work computer, transferred settings from the mixer to the pc, and now everything is working (for now)

      • Jul 20
  • MarkNorgren
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-01-22

    I see that there is a new Firmware out for the X/M32 series.  NICE!  My question pertains to why MIdas lists the dates of the updates for the boards and not the stage boxes?  I also have the DL32 and the Firmware for it is listed as 1.7, but NO date.  I remember updating a year or two ago and I'm thinking there is nothing new since then?  Just wish Midas would list a date along the side of the Download so I new if there was something new?  

    Is there anyway to check the Stagebox to see what Firmware it is running?

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    • MarkNorgren
      GaryHiggins

      1.7 is the latest. I believe as part of the update, only while connected to your pc, the current firmware will display.

      • January 22, 2020
    • MarkNorgren
      MarkNorgren

      Thanks Gary!


       


      It would be nice if Midas would put the Firmware date next to the download so we would know.  Easy to check on the board, not so easy on the stagebox!

      • January 22, 2020
    • MarkNorgren
      GaryHiggins

      @MarkNorgrenI may have told you wrong-but there is an easier way. Holding the mute button in while powering up disables the fan with firmware 1.7...so if that doesn't happen it's not on 1.7...and yes, I agree a release date would be nice! Seems easy enough to add. Or some other easily accessible way to tell.

      • January 22, 2020
    • MarkNorgren
      MarkNorgren

      I remember updating when we moved to V3.0, so my guess is that was 1.7?  Just update the board to V4.02 and things went well!


      Game on!

      • January 22, 2020
    • MarkNorgren
      GaryHiggins

      @MarkNorgren Looks like it was from Feb 2016


       


      Capture.PNG

      • January 22, 2020
  • MadDogUS
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-09-02

    Asked this a couple of years ago and no answer and no new products since then either. Should I ditch Midas and go with another brand that actually released new better products lately?

    Seen nothing new since M32 (live version was just same as old M32 with a better recording card). Meanwhile there has been many new products from competitors like Allen Heath, SSL etc. all leapfrogging Midas. The new Heritage D is still nowhere to be found. The M32 can't compete with Allen Heath SQ serioes. The Pro 2-3 there are many newer better consoles etc. Did Behringer kill Midas off? The Behringer wing is loosing bad to the Allen Heath SQ series. The Pro series is loosing to Allen Heath 3 new lines and the top is loosing to Avid and SSL. Should I just cut my ties with Midas?

    This is important to my company since we are in dire need of updating our Midas mixers. But do we need to change brand too?

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    • MadDogUS
      Nigel67 Hi Johan, there is an extremely exciting product that is just about to go into full production, the HD96. Please see the links below. This is our new flagship console and has been receiving rave reviews from clients who have been able to demo one. Please advise which country you reside in and I will put you in touch with our local distributor, who if they have a demo console will be more than willing to demo it to you - conditions permitting. You definitely do not want to ditch Midas, this is an amazing console.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLcIKUB08bA
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wFWzKbkU3Y
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4KYW6DX3eY
      • September 2, 2020
      • What is happening with MIdas?
        MadDogUS At first we are looking for something in same class as Allen Heath Avantes 64 channels to replace the 32 -48 channel mixers we have that is running out of channels and processing. Looking for a system that can have a FOH control surface and live/recording mix console from same stage box(es) (in a separate room to mix with the video mixer to feed live or recorded video). Heritage-D seems good, but it will be to large and expensive to replace the current in use mixers. We are in US and the larger venue we had is shut down so the more immediate (next few months) is something for smaller venue since we can't have any audience live, just live feeds and recordings.
        • September 3, 2020
      • What is happening with MIdas?
        Nigel67 Hi Johan, Many thanks for the reply, sorry didn't see the notification until now. Yes, I think that the HD is probably a little over the top for your present requirements. Its either the M32 LIVE or the Behringer Wing that we can offer. The Wing is getting some fantastic reviews.
        • September 10, 2020
    • MadDogUS
      GeorgeDougherty The Wing may or may not be adequate for your needs if you're looking for 64 channels. With all the mix channels being stereo capable, you may find you burn fewer mix channels dealing with stereo playbacks and keyboards. You get 40 full-featured mix channels and 8 aux channels. Build quality and operation feels more Midas level despite the Behringer badge and the price point for its capability is killer.
      • September 13, 2020
      • What is happening with MIdas?
        MadDogUS We tried the Wing was not impressed compared to even the Allen Heath SQ series. which sounded much clearer. We are looking for a 96k pro board not a 48k recreational board. Although that is also too small for us, so we are currently looking at the size of AH Aventis which should work for us in the next few years for the smaller midsize events/venues. I was hoping for a new version of Pro1 that could compete with Aventis for price and quality but so far the consoles other than AH are either too big or too outdated (Pro1, 2 etc.).
        • September 13, 2020
      • What is happening with MIdas?
        GeorgeDougherty Yeah, there's definitely a hole in the Midas lineup currently.

        Personally I'd love to see a 64 channel Midas variant of the Wing with 24-36 bus + 8 matrix. Firmware on the Wing keeps improving workflow but it still has some issues for me. Otherwise, I'd hardly call it recreational. It's almost on par with the Yamaha CL series I love in routing and processing, just short on input channel processing.

        Most of my gripes are easily software correctable and while I don't discount what you're hearing, with actual Midas stage boxes handling the IO the sound quality is everything I need to put together good and transparent mixes in a live environment. It sounds better than the X32 and I know from experience even an X32 on a D&B J rig sounds damn fine for a touring band and several thousand people.

        I was about to pull the trigger on a 32+16 channel DLive C series setup with Dante card prior to my Wing purchase,.
        The tab was pushing $15K, but the Wing + 48 channels of Midas stage boxes did everything I needed out of the DLive at less than half the price.

        If 40 channels don't cut it for you that's fine. As for 96K, when I can actually hear the difference between 48K and 96K mixdowns in my studio, and the double-blind studies stop showing other people can't either, I'll worry about that being a bar for "Pro" work in the live arena.
        • September 14, 2020
  • KingBurton
    Contributor - Level 2
    2017-08-12
    Hi everybody.

    Current
    Using electronic drum kit. Only L & R output so we pan hard L/R with low sounds one sire high sounds other.

    Goal
    But drum processor does have midi out. Is there a way to separate each drum to discreet channel through midi at DL16 to M32.

    If yes, how do I make that happen? Asking for three churches.

    Cheers.
    King
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    • KingBurton
      KevinMaxwell

      King Burton;129333 wrote:

      Hi everybody.



      Current

      Using electronic drum kit. Only L & R output so we pan hard L/R with low sounds one sire high sounds other.



      Goal

      But drum processor does have midi out. Is there a way to separate each drum to discreet channel through midi at DL16 to M32.



      If yes, how do I make that happen? Asking for three churches.



      Cheers.

      King




      I think you will find that the Midi outs on the Drums are control outputs. If you wanted to hit a drum and have it bring up or down a fader on the console then that might sort of work. But the Midi out is not a way to get the different drum sounds out of the drums to the mixer.
      • August 12, 2017
  • DaveMorrison
    Rock Star - Level 2
    2019-11-08

    At the current time, M-32 edit v4.0 is available to download. However the link to the Mac version is wrong (3.2). I'm guessing the firmware will follow very soon???

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    • DaveMorrison
      DaveMorrison

      Wow! This is gonna take a minute to digest.


      User In and User Out are cool. Now I wanna rebuild my whole setup.


      @Paul_Vannatto  It seems that Output 1-16, Ultranet, and Aux In are still the only way to add a Mixbus to any outputs. Does that mean we (potentially) have a triple staged output system? For example. Mixbus 1 > Output 12 > User Out 48> AES50-B 48 (and/or AES50-A 8)?


      I suppose all this new power will lead to some serious thinking. How do we explain it to new users?

      • November 8, 2019
    • DaveMorrison
      KenMitchell

      @DaveMorrison  - I've got a headache reading what you just wrote.   I wish I had the time to write a graphical routing tool that allowed scene editing and saving.   This new firmware is going to require a lot of pencil and paper sketches.  Fire up the scanner. 


       


      Ken

      • November 8, 2019
    • DaveMorrison
      CraigFowler

      Saw some of this on Reddit a couple of weeks ago.


       


      It looks like using the User IO we can move away from the blocks of 8 a bit, especially wrt inputs.  It looks like we can get source signals from anywhere outside the DSP using the UserIn tab, and not be restricted by the blocks of 8.  2 local preamps (not necessarily in the same block of 8, in fact not even next to each other) + 1 card in + another local preamp + 1 aux socket + 2 remote preamps + another card in, all in 1 block of input signals is now possible, without needing to burn other input blocks, or get creative with the AuxIn Remap, or re-assign channel sources.  Yay.  Also, the internal TB mic and ExtTB preamp are both available as separate sources; so no more burning a bus to get TB to a channel.  Then once we've "staged" the UserIn tab, we can apply those userIn blocks to the input tab.  Alternatively, if we're happy with the blocks of 8 as is, we can route inputs normally, ignoring the UserIn tab alltogether.


       


      This makes a lot of my previous posts redundant. 


       


      Re outputs, it looks like we can just do the normal stage to block then assign block to output as per usual, however the UserOut tab can be used for things like passthrough without relying on blocks of 8, similar to input blocks, but can also be used to mix and match DSP signals staged in the out1-16\aux out\ultranet tabs in too, in pretty much any order, ie in the one block-of-8, you can get the signal from output5 in the out1-16 tab (eg bus5, post fader) appearing next to the signal from output15 on the ultranet tab (eg DirOut ch15, In\LC,) appearing next to a tap straight off a remote preamp from a stagebox connected to AES50A, then a signal from a cardin (eg a click track, no need to assign the click to a channel,) then the signal from a preamp from a stagebox connected to AES50B.


       


      Basically we've almost hit routing nirvana (though IMO the app could use some workflow tweaks.)

      • November 8, 2019
    • DaveMorrison
      KenMitchell

      @CraigFowler  - you guys scare the heck out of me.  I feel like I'm on an amusement ride and my head is spinning and I'm just about to... <deleted>


       


      Ken

      • November 8, 2019
    • DaveMorrison
      DaveMorrison

      When I saw that 4.0 (M32-Edit) was available, I had to look. Thankfully all the old ways seem to work. But the User In and User Out tab were mind numbing for a bit. I couldn't even understand the GUI for 10 or 15 minutes. It makes sense now.  

      • November 8, 2019
  • S-Audio
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-03-01

    I am trying to use M32 edit with my M32rlive console but I can't get them to talk to each other.

    The software recognizes the console and the IP address match but when I highlight the console and hit connect nothing happens and it says disconnected. any help would be appreciated.

    Ron

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    • S-Audio
      RexBeckett

      @S-Audio 


      You need to change one of the IP addresses. They should be in the same subnet but cannot be the same address. e.g. Set the console to 192.168.0.32

      • February 29, 2020
    • S-Audio
      S-Audio

      I tried changing the IP address on the console as you suggested but still nothing.I didn't recognize the console like it did in the screen shot attached to my first post....

      • February 29, 2020
    • S-Audio
      RexBeckett


      @S-Audio wrote:


      I tried changing the IP address on the console as you suggested but still nothing.I didn't recognize the console like it did in the screen shot attached to my first post....





      @S-Audio 


      The screenshot shows that there are two active network ports on your PC and they are both in the same subnet. This can cause problems. If you disable or disconnect the Wifi port, the PC should be able to find the console. If you need to keep Wifi active, try changing both the PC LAN port and console to a different subnet e.g. 192.168.32.nnn

      • February 29, 2020
    • S-Audio
      S-Audio

      I tured oof WIFI and it found the console right away so that was the issue. Now I have this message poping up.


      My console firm ware is the latest version 4.2 and it say uncompatable. I can't win   Now what?


      See attached.

      IMG_2157.JPG
      • February 29, 2020
    • S-Audio
      S-Audio

      Sorry about the typo's. I have been trying to get this going for hours.

      • February 29, 2020
  • gtcode
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-21

    We have an M32 AES50-B <-> X32 Core A <> X32 Core B <-> DL32 A

     

    Sync master is X32 Core

     

    We are not always getting sync on power up

     

    1) Is there a special power up sequence here? X32 Core first?

    2) Can they be arbitrarily power cycled (as long as the X32 core being the master is on)

     

    Maybe the X32 Core which I got used has a problem here?

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    • gtcode
      Paul_Vannatto


      @gtcode wrote:


      We are not always getting sync on power up


      Anytime I get intermittent sync, it is usually due to a flakey AES50 cable.


      1) Is there a special power up sequence here? X32 Core first?


      I normally power up the master clock device first. But it seems to sync irrespective of the order.


      Maybe the X32 Core which I got used has a problem here?


      I would suspect a cable.





       

      • August 21, 2019
    • gtcode
      gtcode

      Thanks Paul


      We lost sync between X32Core+DL32.


      We powere cycled them both which fixed sync


      This caused M32+X32Core sync to be lost


      We reset M32, sync still lost


      We powered everything down then turned on X32Core+M32, waited for them to boot/sync, then turned on M32 and it worked finally.


       


      As per these steps, sync was lost on both cables at separate times


       


      If this is supposed to be robust on bootup at all times I'd suspect the X32 Core since sync was lost or not achieved on both AES ports of the X32 Core

      • August 21, 2019
    • gtcode
      gtcode

      By the way, we did not move or change any AES or other cables at all during this process.  Entirely related to reboots and the like.

      • August 21, 2019
    • gtcode
      gtcode

      Sorry no edit feature. We are using high quality AES50 cables here for both cables. Odds they are problematic is extremely low, and odds that both happened to fail is even lower. Sorry no edit feature on these posts my bad

      • August 21, 2019
    • gtcode
      Paul_Vannatto

      Have you tried to change the master to the M32?


      Are the AES50 cables shielded with ethercons on each end?


      Have you tried re-aligning the RJ45 connectors inside the ethercon ends (by loosening the stress nut, plugging the end into a jack, wiggling slightly, then tightening the nut)?

      • August 21, 2019
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    CPMixing
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-12

    Hi,

    Just yesterday I was doing some tests at my studio and decided to plug in the FW 400-800 cable from my Midas Venice F32, into my OWC TB2 Hub that has a FW 800 port. The computer would not recognize it, so I plugged directly into the iMac with a FW 800 to TB2 adapter. Same issue. I then tried on my Macbook Pro (early 2013 retina 15" with High Sierra), no device detected still. I then uninstalled the Midas drivers and re-installed, both on my iMac and Macbook. No change. I then tried shutting the computer down, then turning the Midas off and back on, then re-booting the computer. Still no device detected. I also tried all of these same things with a different cable, same issue.

    It's been a looong time since I tried the Midas as an interface and this was the result. We also have 2 Apollo 8's and since I almost never need more than 16 inputs, I don't bother to use the Midas as a Digital Interface, only to monitor and run HP mixes. Only thing I noticed as far as the FW card is concerned, is the FW 400 port is a little loose, but still makes a solid connection(from feel at least) with the cable. The leds still light up above the sample rate and clocking text.

    Do I need a new FW Card? Any other troubleshooting I could try? Any specs not mentioned are below. Thanks for the help!!

     

    Computer Specs

    21.5” iMac running Sierra OS Quad CORE i7 3.1GHz Processor 16GB RAM
    1TB SSD

    Interfaces-2x Apollo 8 Blackface 2nd Gen, Dual Core(Thunderbolt 2) -Midas Venice F32(FW 800)

    Thunderbolt Hub-OWC 12 Port Thunderbolt 2 Dock

    DAW-Pro Tools 12.6.0 

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    • CPMixing
      DavidKnighton Hello Chris Pummill,
      Mac OS El Capitan is the latest OS that our firewire driver will support. I would suggest testing on an earlier OS, or if you have a Windows 7 machine with firewire, you can try that as well with the PC driver.
      • November 12, 2020
      • Midas Venice F32 FW Issues
        CPMixing Thanks David! Unfortunately, with our other DAWs and plugins, we can't go back OS-wise right now. It's a bit of a tricky setup because I record and mix out of the studio frequently, but we pay our bills by renting our space monthly to 10-15 different people. So any changes at all need to consider a large group of people. Worst case scenario, we just don't use the Midas as a digital interface anymore.

        Is there any way to tell if the FW card is working without reverting our computers to prior OS'?
        • November 12, 2020
      • Midas Venice F32 FW Issues
        CPMixing Also, I can't be 100% sure, but I believe I've used the Midas as an interface with the iMac and Sierra OS a few years ago with great success. Since we purchased our Apollos, I haven't bothered to use it, which is what led to the current confusion and troubleshooting. Nothing has changed on our iMac in YEARS because of potential compatibility issues and because its incredibly stable as-is.
        • November 12, 2020
    • CPMixing
      Dale_M Hi Chris, no not really as this is the only way to check the FW card is "seen" by the computer, you could try an old laptop running on an earlier Windows software but it's not guaranteed much past WIN 8 from memory, it def works on XP/Vista/Win 7/Win 8 and as my colleague David has stated on MAC up to El Capitan. It can be made to work with Sierra/High Sierra but these are unsupported workarounds, that said many users have had success -there was a KB article on it but the attachments are down at present. I think my suggestion with a laptop may be worth verifying if you can get hold of one as a starting point.
      • November 12, 2020
      • Midas Venice F32 FW Issues
        CPMixing Thanks Dale! Having read up on SIP and how it can help with newer OS's seeing the MIdas, is there any major downside to disabling it, even temporarily?
        • November 12, 2020
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