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  • TC-James
    Triber Moderator
    2019-06-14

    CALLING ALL FLASHBACK 2 USERS!

    Thanks to your extensive feedback, we have developed a new firmware update for the Flashback 2 and we are NOW SEARCHING FOR BETA TESTERS!

    The update gives users the option of having TAP TEMPO as the secondary footswitch function and true stereo input instead of MASH.

    After updating to firmware V1.2.00, you can toggle between MASH and TAP TEMPO as a global setting for your Flashback 2 in the TonePrint App.

    Press and hold the footswitch for 1.5 seconds to activate TAP TEMPO control (power LED turns green), then tap the footswitch in sync with your desired tempo to adjust delay times accordingly.

    When TAP TEMPO is selected from the TonePrint App the MASH LED will constantly flash to display 1/4 note tempo of the delays, even when the pedal is turned off so you can always tell if you're on time.

    The firmware update also fixes a small bug regarding stereo summing in buffered bypass mode when using stereo output.

    If you own a Flashback 2 and you'd like to help us beta test firmware V1.2.00, please contact us :

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    Hi all, 1.2.00 firmware is now officially released and can be downloaded on the TC website:
    https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categories/Tcelectronic/Guitar/Stompboxes/FLASHBACK-2-DELAY/p/P0CKR/Downloads#googtrans(en|en)

    Thanks for all the help and feedback. With best regards,  Mike  TC electronic 

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    • TC-James
      TC-Mike

      This is how you disable MASH switch to activate the TAP tempo feature on the new 1.2.00 firmware:



      • Connect you Fb2 pedal to your computer or mobile device

      • Start the Toneprint app 

      • Select the Flashback 2 in the Templates view:
        flashback 2 beta disable mash1.PNG

      • Select any template from the list and click on the pencil icon to edit it 
        fb2 diable mash 2.PNG

      • click on the Product Settings tab and then on the MASH switch lever as seen in the screenshot

      • fb2 product settings.PNG

      • you have now disabled MASH switch functionality and the MASH LED should no blink and indicate the current delay time

      • the setting is remmebered until you enable  MASH again 

      • June 13, 2019
    • TC-James
      APG247

      I own a TC Electronic Nova Delay and love the hold tap tempo feature where you can hold down the tap tempo button, play a rhythm and the pedal listens to the tempo you play and matches it. Will that feature be available on the Flashback 2?

      • June 25, 2019
    • TC-James
      gmobbs

      Hi TC-James,...Just read about the FB2 firmware update that enables tap tempo in lieu of MASH.  That's a great trade-off in my book, and I'd really like to be included in the beta-testing on this new firmware.  What's the proceedure for getting involved?  Thanks!


      George (Seattle, WA)  425-922-8688


       

      • July 25, 2019
    • TC-James
      rushrn61

      Hi,


      Please send me the Firmware V1.2.00 update for TAP TEMPO secondary function on the Flashback 2


      Thank you in advance,


      Randy
      • July 27, 2019
    • TC-James
      countach74

      I'd like to try the firmware as well.

      • July 29, 2019
  • woodall57
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-03-27

    Hi guy

    I just got my plethora X5 today. I have a feeling I have got it early than supposed to but I am just wondering how do we know the unit is on the latest firwmare version and where are firmware updates done. Are they done via the app or do we need to download the firmware under thep product support and update using the toneprint editor? I do not see any firmware on the support site so I am just wondering as I want to make sure I am on the newest version

    Thanks 

     

    Jake 

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    • woodall57
      jamesm82

      Glad to see another early owner - feel rather lonely doesnt it! I got mine yesterday and was wondring the exact same thing - from looking on the message boards today it seems that current firmware and next 1.1 is due next week. 


      How are you finding it so far ? Im thinking of returning mine as cant get on board (pardon the pun ) with having to use the app to do the majority of editing/stuff 

      • March 30, 2020
    • woodall57
      colliander

      Hi!


      I got mine today and I really like it so far... I saw in their Q&A video that a tuner has been added but I can't activate that so I'm guessing I'm on an older firmware. I can see tha firmware version in the app but do I need to connect to the computer to update via usb? 

      • April 1, 2020
    • woodall57
      HenningBerthold

      Ich habe das gleich Problem mit dem Tuner. Bekomme ihn nicht aktiviert. 


      i have the same Problem with the Tuner. 

      • April 4, 2020
    • woodall57
      Grille22

      Hi received my device today as well. Would be great to have some advice on the tuner issue. I don't know how to activate it. And hard to believe... is there really no full manual available? I can only find a "quick start guide". So far I'm not as exited as I expected. And there is no Phaser-effect?

      • April 6, 2020
    • woodall57
      Luiggi

      Hi!
      I've received mine today! Very excited but… it freezes all the time and I can't even switch between pedals ¿has anyone the same problem? I'm hoping it's a software issue. However, there's no firmware update anywhere.
      I'm about to return it ?

      • April 7, 2020
  • HotWired
    Contributor - Level 1
    2015-06-21
    Hallo... as my RH450 is in repair at TC-Electronic. (Completly dead at a gig!!!!! no light at all)
    I am thinking about getting an BH550.
    Qustions:
    1. Is the Fan always on?

    2. Is the preamp section analog or digital?

    3. Has anybody had the same problems with the BH550 as i have have with the RH450... suddanly no ligtht, no sound. ??

    Kindly
    Thomas
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  • gilmourstrat
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-03-02

    Hello,

    very excited about the newcomer Plethora X5. It seems a great and somewhat portable pedalboard.

    A couple of questions:

    • I'm used to work on "preset" based or "patch" based effects - meaning at a click of a button I can turn on and off some effects - can I achive similar funcionality implementing "Boards"?
    • Can I change boards (up and down) using the MASH buttons?
    • Also how quick is the transition between boards? Will I notice any lag?
    • Does it have any kind of "boost" pedal that can be thrown in the board?

    Many thanks in advance!

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    • gilmourstrat
      TC-Mike

      Hi Gilmourstrat,


       



      • Plethora's 5 fx slots, et you bypass/unbypass  individual pedals or the insert loop just like a real pedal board 

      • triple clicking the first 2 footswitches lets you toggle boards up and down or you can use midi prg changes to load them

      • yes, changing board is not seamless,as 5 Fx and hundreds of parameters are initialised, so there is a short mute to prevent clicks for smooth transition

      • Plethora X5 doesn't have a Boost pedal included, but you can integrate one via the insert loop (loop can be set to be in front of the board, at the end or anywhere in between


      Best regards,


      Mike


       

      • March 2, 2020
    • gilmourstrat
      gilmourstrat

      Many thanks @TC-Mike for the great explanation


      Now I know what to expect

      • March 2, 2020
    • gilmourstrat
      TC-Mike

      you are very welcome, let us know if you have any other questions or feature requests.


      Cheers,


      Mike

      • March 2, 2020
    • gilmourstrat
      gilmourstrat

      A quick question @TC-Mike :


      Is the Plethora a "pure Tone print unit" or can I make my own effect programming as if it was the real pedal? Meaning can I build my own parameters or just use/adjust what's on the Tone Print?


      Many thanks!!

      • March 11, 2020
    • gilmourstrat
      TC-Mike

      Yes, you can completly customize and program the individual toneprint pedals in the toneprint app, just like the pedall counter parts . Only difference is, that you have only 3 instead of 4  potmeters per Fx slot/Toneprint pedal to program, but all p3 otmeter functions are programmable, + you gain MASH switch + Expression pedal as additional parameter modifiers that can be programmed for each slot. Expression pedal can control parameters across several pedals, so you can program crossddfades between blocks of pedals. You program your toneprints in the app while monitoring all settings in realtime + you can use the potmeters to control parameters and touchscreen of your ipad or android tablet. Next firmware update, gets a board manager and tuner and trhen we add more Fx...

      • March 13, 2020
  • bnixon2010
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-01-21

    So i have tried to submit a tickit and of course ( like many others i see) it didnt go through.I have tried to connect my FB2 to 2 different computers, a Mac Pro on 10.13.6 and a windows 10 PC and neither recognise the pedal. I am using a brand new cable from the box as well as a brand new cable from the Hall Of Fame 2 box to no avail. I have always just beamed toneprints to the pedal but cannot use the editor. I confirmed the latest firmware. Please help. This costumer service really has me second guessing my Begringer Poly D purchase i am about to make.......

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    • bnixon2010
      TC-James

      Hi there,


      I understand your frustration. Just to check a couple of things to get us started ... have you downloaded the latest version of the TonePrint Editor to your Mac and/or PC? The latest version is from last month, so fairly recent: https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categories/Tcelectronic/Guitar/Apps/TONEPRINT-EDITOR/p/P0CLC/Downloads#googtrans(en|en)


      Thanks, James.

      • January 21, 2020
    • bnixon2010
      bnixon2010

      I do have the most recent version . 

      • January 22, 2020
    • bnixon2010
      TC-James

      Hi Brian,


      OK. There's a few idiosyncracies with regards to the order in which you connect and start things. Please try this:


      - The pedal needs to be connected first via USB cable, before opening the app. Then open the app and it should ask you to select a TonePrint slot. On doing this the app should then recognize the pedal. If that doesn't work it'll usually help to reboot the computer or startting the process from the beginning.


      This little video might be helpful for you  
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJelHAoGTII

      • January 22, 2020
    • bnixon2010
      bnixon2010

      yeah this is kinda annoying. I finally got my Flashback 2 to connect and now my HOF 2 is not responding


       

      • January 23, 2020
    • bnixon2010
      TC-James

      Using the same approach?


      Thanks, James.

      • January 23, 2020
  • ckpt-martin
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-04-17

    OK, since I feel it is time-consuming to go through all the different posts to get an overview of all the existing feature requests for the PX5, I decided to create a comprehensive list here.

    So, what I did is go through all the PX5 feature request posts that currently exist (at least all I noticed) and put all those requests in here. Where there were multiple requests, I added votes to the existing ones (1 vote = original request, 2 votes = original request + one endorser).

    If you have additional requests you can't find in this list, just add one in a comment below and I will try to keep track and manage the list in the original post. Same goes if you want to endorse an existing feature, just add a +1 comment. This would give everybody a better overview of where the community priorities are.

    TOP 10

    1. Add Looper

    2. Add Helix Phaser Effect

    3. Edit POT Params in play mode (tied with 2.)

    4. Select signal direction (L2R or R2L)

    5. Add EQ Pedal

    6. Global Tap Tempo (tied with 5.)

    7. Additional cab sims (tied with 5.)

    8. MIDI CC to enable/disable single footswitch (tied with 5.)

    9. Add Vicous Vibe Effect

    10. MIDI clock support (tied with 9.)

    Effects / Pedals
    Feature Votes Comment
    Add Looper 8 On Roadmap for 1.2
    Add SpectraComp 3  

    Add BassOverdrive

    3  

    Display delay time in bpm while editing delay pedal

    1  

    Add EQ Pedal

    5 WORKAROUND: With Hyper Gravity's 3 band gain features you can also emulate a dynamic EQ which is a nice workaround for not having a dedicated EQ. (try DynaQ template and adjust the gain ranges of the 3 bands to taste via app)

    Add Vicous Vibe Effect

    4 On Roadmap for 1.2

    Add Helix Phaser Effect

    7 On Roadmap for 1.2

    Add Metronome Pedal (with tap tempo)

    1  

    Allow Tuner to occupy a pedal slot

    1  

    Support trails while switching boards

    3 Currently PX5 is muted shortly

    Edit POT params in play mode

    7  

    Add Boost effect

    1 WORKAROUND: You can use the PIPELINE tremolo as a Booster as it can gain output with up to 9 db.. Just set mod depth to 0% and assign outlevel (0dB to +9dB) to MASH switch (via app) or Exp pedal and voilá... a dynamic clean boost

    Tap Tempo via expression pedal

    2  

    Global Tap Tempo

    5  

    Additional cab sims

    5 Bass cabs also

    Program MASH switch to enable/disable multiple slots

    1  

    Select signal direction (L2R or R2L)

    6  

    Add Envelope Filter effect

    3  

    Add BodyRez pedal

    2  
    Pot as effects level or dry/wet in play mode 2  
    Keep artist tuning when selecting toneprint 1  

    Add Wahwah pedal (with expression)

    2  

    Configure parallel and series signal routing

    3 Currently all pedals are in series

    Add DreamSpace pedal

    1  

    Add Trinity 2 pedal

    2  

    Enable "4th" Pot without TonePrint App

    2  

    Add Fuzz effect

    1  

    Stereo/Mono Control

    1 https://community.musictribe.com/t5/Guitar-and-Bass/Plethora-X5-The-Ultimate-Feature-Request-Thread/m-p/299140/highlight/true#M1075

    CarlBigsby Board Mgmt

    1 https://community.musictribe.com/t5/Guitar-and-Bass/Plethora-X5-The-Ultimate-Feature-Request-Thread/m-p/299140/highlight/true#M1075
    Add the classic TC2290 panning chorus 1  
    Allow NoiseGate to be inserted w/o assigning it to a slot. 3 Currently occupies a slot.
    Add stereo capability to Pipeline Tremolo 1  
    Advanced routing configuration 1 See @SmashAshby comment https://community.musictribe.com/t5/Guitar-and-Bass/Plethora-X5-The-Ultimate-Feature-Request-Thread/m-p/299388/highlight/true#M1090
    Custom Expression Pedal calibration 1 Similar to Flashback X4
    Multiple effect presets within board 1  
    Sensitivity setting for MASH 1  
    Stereo FX loop 1 May not be technically possible
    Display board name in play mode 1  
    Save/confirm changes in edit mode 1  

     

    MIDI Features
    Feature Votes Comment
    MIDI CC to enable/disable single footswitch 5 Currently in beta testing
    MIDI CC to enable/disable global bypass 1  
    MIDI over Bluetooth 4  
    MIDI clock support 4  
    Tap Tempo via CC 1  
    Modify POT parameters via CC 3  
    CC for expression pedal 3  
    CC for MASH function 2  
    MIDI PC to enable/disable multiple switches at once 1  
    Configure MIDI channel 2  
    Bypass FX Loop via CC 2  

     

    TonePrint App Features
    Feature Votes Comment
    Edit/create individual boards 2 seems to be in the planning, but only board order and renaming available in 1.1 firmware and 4.3 TonePrint app
    Easy connect via Bluetooth 1 Currently need to go into BT connect menu on PX5
    Backup/save boards to PC 2  
    Enable all TonePrints as available for separate pedals 1  
    Set overall per board volume/gain 1  

     

     

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    • ckpt-martin
      Wyngnut

      Good idea - is officially recognised?


      Vote +1 for:


      - Midi Rx channel


      - Midi clock (note: selectable at pedal level)


      - Midi CC pedal bypass state


       


      comment:


      - anything Midi CC really needs ability to set midi Rx channel implementation first (though this is apparently on the way)



      Add request:
      - BodyRez pedal

      • April 17, 2020
    • ckpt-martin
      lawrencelefties

      Wow, cool list!

      well, my votes are:























































      Feature Votes Comment
      Add SpectraComp +1  

      Add BassOverdrive

      +1  

      Add EQ Pedal

      +1  

      Support trails while switching boards

      +1 Currently PX5 is muted shortly

      Edit POT params in play mode

      +1  

      Tap Tempo via expression pedal

      +1  

      Global Tap Tempo

      +1  

      Additional cab sims (bass cabs also)

      +1  

      Select signal direct (L2R or R2L)

      +1  

       


      And if i can  make a request i'll suggest to use the pot as effects level or dry/wet on play mode, so you have a free slot on the edit mode.
      And it would be nice if you can control also the params that are not editable on the screen on the edit mode. (instead of using the app).

      Add Request:
      BodyRez pedal

      Thanks!
      Lorenzo

      • April 17, 2020
    • ckpt-martin
      TomY2K

      Hello,


      Based on my first usage I would have the main following requests:



      • Possibility to use a pedal without assigning a slot. Mainly for the noise gate which is always engaged for me.

      • keep artist tuning when selecting toneprint (not with the current knob position)

      • Add Looper

      • Add Helix Phaser

      • Add EQ Pedal

      • add a Wahwah pedal (with expression)

      • Possibility to delete factory boards


      By the way I love the Plethora !!!


      Thanks you

      • April 18, 2020
    • ckpt-martin
      Stef63

      Hi,


      super list!


      it would also be nice to be able to save the boards on your PC, a back-up...


      and to have the option to chose for each slot parallel or serie.so we can decide if we want an effect to influence the next or not ...you could have slot 1&2 with the loop with distortion and 3.4&5 with a delay with a clean tone...


      Thanks


      Stef


       

      • April 18, 2020
    • ckpt-martin
      Ben_F

      Hi, great idea! First of all, I really love my Plethora, a great and very intuitive platform. Here is my wishlist ?


      - Helix Phaser and Viscous Vibe are number one on the list


      - Use of the 3 knobs in play mode for on the fly adjustments


      - Add the T2 and the Dreamscape which are part of the TonePrint familly


      - Add the possibility to use the "4th knob" without using toneprint app (tone on the Corona or Sub2 on the Sub n' up)


      - Add digital Drive, Disto and Fuzz for light travellers (like the cab sim) and just in case


      - Add the missing Toneprints : there are some toneprints available for individual stomps that are not for Plethora


      Stay healthy,


      Ben

      • April 18, 2020
  • sprada
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-07-07
    Hello good people. I'm planning a board and would like some suggestions from you good people. The soon to exist board will have a Plethorax5, micro amp, ts808, Boss eq200 and a mini cry baby. The Plethora (and the Boss right channel) will be connected using the 4 cable method. This would allow me to have the A channel of the Boss in the pre-amp and channel B in the loop. Something like the picture here (showing off my MS Paint skills). Does this looks right? I'm really not sure how to connect the Boss channel B into the effects loop along with the Plethora. Thank you.
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    • sprada
      sprada Anyone? please help :(
      • July 8, 2020
    • sprada
      sprada Bit sad that no one replied. I was able to make it work with the routing on this new picture. By connecting Boss channel B between Amps Send and plethora Return the EQ sits after the pre-amp and before plethora's Loop effects.
      Got the piece of info needed from Line 6 Documentation. I know Covid did not help but Plethora is lacking good documentation.
      Also opened a support case where I was essentially told that 4CM is not the way to go and that I should connect the Plethora to the Amps effect Loop... This defeats one of Plethora's big advantage (ability to set effects pre-amp and in the amps effect loop). Very unfortunate.

      For reference here is the Line 6 Documentation that helped me figure out this.
      1. The guitar is connected to the INPUT jack of the effects unit.
      2. The signal is then sent through the effects modules (compression, distortion, modulation, etc) that you wish to connect before the preamp section of your amplifier.
      3. The signal is then split inside the effects unit, and is sent out of the effects loop
      SEND jack.
      4. The effect unit’s SEND jack is connected to the INPUT jack of the guitar amp.
      5. The preamp of the amplifier then adds gain and EQ to the signal.
      6. From there, the signal is sent out the amp’s effects loop SEND jack back to the
      effects unit’s loop RETURN jack.
      7. Since any distortion effects have already been added earlier in the chain, delays
      and reverbs are added.
      8. After the signal passes through these post-effects, it is sent to the effects unit’s
      main OUTPUT jack.
      9. The effects unit main OUTPUT jack is connected to the amplifier’s loop RETURN
      jack, where the signal is then sent out to the power and amp speakers.
      It sounds (and reads) more complex than it really is, I promise! It works in the same
      way that the basic example did but has a ton more flexibility, because you can swap
      out pedals on your virtual pedalboard on every patch that you make.

      Cheers
      • July 13, 2020
    • sprada
      pinkfloid I am not sure if I am correct and you found an answer but I would like to give my opinion. Boss output A should go to amp input. Boss output B should go to amp return.
      • November 29, 2020
      • Plethora X5 4 cable method along with EQ Pedal
        pinkfloid I have both X5 and eq-200 but I do not use them together but it looks like to be good.. thank you
        • November 29, 2020
  • FelixHomann
    Super Contributor - Level 2
    2019-09-03

    Hi,
    it would be great if the Flashback 2 could be synced to MIDI Clock via USB. It's already recognized as a class compliant USB MIDI device and can sync to tap tempo. So it shouldn't be too hard to implement.

    Kind Regards

    Felix

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    • FelixHomann
      TC-Mike

      Hi Felix,


      thank you for your feedback. With the current Fb2 Midi sync via USB is unfortunately not an option due to the codespace being fully used, so there are no recources left for new features. With the new Fb 2 Firmware update, that is being released next week, we opted to implement a Tap tempo mode instead and could just fit it in, so that other feature ideas had to be dropped.


      We keep this in mind when developing new products and have it already logged as a feature request.


      In a typical Guitar setup Din Midi is much more common and has better compatibility with other existing midi enabled guitar products. Our new FB 2 X4 has expanded Midi specs including Midi clock and global tap tempo feature, as it also has enough space for standard mid connectors. On the normal sized Toneprint pedals there is no space for a din midi socket.  Would midi support via minijack out and an adaptor work for you too ? 


      Best regards,


      Mike


       

      • September 2, 2019
    • FelixHomann
      FelixHomann

      Hi Mike,


      thank you very much for your detailed reply. It seems I might need to get a good deal for my FB 2 and get a FB 2 X4 instead  

      MIDI through a minjack+adaptor would be a good idea for the normal sized pedals, indeed. The reason I specifically asked for the USB/MIDI sync was that there already is a USB jack on the pedal and hoped it could be implemented. In the end I don't care that much how the MIDI connection is made.

      Regards,
      Felix

      • September 3, 2019
    • FelixHomann
      SpaceAgeHero Hi guys,
      I'm also interested in Midi Clock sync for the Flashback 2.
      Unfortunately I don't have enough space for the X4.
      Couldn't this be implemented on the stereo input jack (where also tap tempo pedals can be used)?
      That is all, which is lacking for me on this awesome compact pedal.
      Kind regards
      Raik
      • Jan 17
  • CarlBigsby
    Regular Contributor - Level 3
    2020-03-01

    Plethora X5 could seriously simplify my rig without compromising on the sound quality. But before ordering one I have a couple of questions.

    1. Can I use the MIDI-pedal on my my MIDI control board to use it as an expression pedal for  Plethora X5?

    2. I will use mine in stereo, but I don't always need or want stereo sounds. Is it possible to program to mute the the second output channel when using certain "pedal boards". E.g a song start with a big stereo intro, but when the verse start I change "pedal board" to smaller sounding one in mono which is muting my second guitar amp. 

    3. The harmonizer in G Major 2 is great and the best I have tried (even better than my Eventide PF). Is Plethora X5's intelligent pitch shifter as good as the one in GM2?

    4. Can the output volume be set individualy for each "pedal board"? E.g. to get different output levels between rhythm playing, solo and intros. 

    5. Will it be possible to create complete pedalboards on a Mac/PC?

    Thanks. 

     

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    • CarlBigsby
      TC-Mike

      Hi Carl,


      1) No you cannot use and external Expr pedal via MIDI at this point. However, you can connect an expression pedal directly to PX5 expr input and program the expression pedal to control up to 3 parameters per pedal, each with its own parameter value curve. This way you can control parametes across pedals, which is very nifty.. 


      Eg map it to FX level with recursive curve to crossfade between pedals etc... 


      For more realtime controlk of FX paramter you can use the MASH switch that each FX slot got and that allows you to control up to 3 more parameters per pedal/Toneprint ( MASH is a pressure sensor build into the footswitches, so you get expression functionality build-in to every pedal!)


      2) No, you cannot mute individual outputs on a per patch basis. The unit has jack sense, so if only mono output is connected FX signals are summed.


      3) Plethora has the Quitessence Harmonizer included, which sounds much better than the old "Wave mechanix" one... 


      4) No, there is no global FX volume and like a real pedalboard the overall outåput level depends on the settings of the ndividual pedals used. However, the Expression pedal can be set to work as a volume pedal, so you can control the output level per pedal (or for all pedals) via connected Exp pedal.


      5) The Toneprint app is available for MAC and PC and allows the editing and transfer of either artist toneprints or your custom pedal  toneprint creations to the Plethora.


      We are also currently working on a board manager that will be part of the Toneprint app for Plethora...


      here is an early Ui draft (may/will  be subject to change!)
      board manager alph draft.PNG

        Best regards from the TC tribers,


      MIke

      • March 1, 2020
    • CarlBigsby
      CarlBigsby

      Thank you TC-Mike @T ,


      1. OK, I can live with that and hope for future MIDI expression pedal support. 


      2. I understand. But the loop is in mono, perhaps I can place the loop last in the chain and use that as a separate mono output for my main amp...? Please advice. 


      3. Sound great.


      4. Do all the "pedals" have programable output level? Then that would be good enough for me. Any way to be able to program the volume of a pedal board would be good enough. 


      5. The "Board Manager" will be a major time saver. It owuld be great to build all the boards from the TV sofa (or the bathroom... ).


      BTW a simple looper would be great when programming and fine tuning sounds. I have a Ditto now to be able to record a guitar part and then my hands free to turning then knobs. Not having a separate Ditto on the physical board would simplify the build and the powering of the board even further. 


       


      Many thanks for the prompt response. I am now very close to ordering one...


       

      • March 2, 2020
    • CarlBigsby
      TC-Mike

      1) i'll pass this on. What other Midi related features would you want/need? 


      2) Yes, you can insert Loop after the 5th slot at the end to sum to mono, but signal will still be played out via both outputs!


      4) all except Noise Gate.  


      5) you populate the board via the app and selecting slots on the Plethora . Board manager will be aseperate module tied in to the app/editor workflow..


      A simple Looper is planned for one of the next firmware updates as well


      Best regards,


      Mike

      • March 2, 2020
  • dhpasta
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-06-13
    I was looking for way of contact with TC to share with You my opinion and few ideas on Plethora. Only working way I found is here. So, I felt in love with Plethora since first video of it. I used to be against guitar multi effects but idea of five separate effects with their own footswitches, luck of complicated routing, multiple cab and amp sims are what I expect from multi effect. Very clear displays, intuitive handling and many effects to choose from with Toneprint technology are big advantages. Technical feedback. I've got two (actually three) problems when using Plethora: 1. Tremolo - on few toneprints, especially with faster settings tremolo is changing speed randomly. It spins with set speed then speeds up for a second, gets back to set speed, speeds up again for half of second, gets back, and so on. I've done update, because I've read that it was reported earlier, but it still happens. 2. Changing boards - when I switch pedalboards and hold a note or a chord, volume rises up and lowers when next board ends loading. It's a bit disturbing because volume increase during the change is quite big. Also volume is higher when I switch on my rig and Plethora is loading. When it is ready to use overall volume is lower. 3. There is one more small thing. When I change boards with lever switch there could be a bit more time to decide which board I'd like to choose. In other words: When i switch board up, number appears on display, I read it's name and decide to change for next board, but it's too late and board starts to loading. I have to wait for loading to be ended and change to next board. That time when number and name of next board is being displayed could be a bit longer. Quick changing boards by pressing lever quickly is possible. I also found few things which in my opinion could be improved: 1. List of toneprints - I've uploaded to plethora some artist toneprints from app and created few mine. List of toneprints became a bit messy. I think that the list could be divided in sections: templates, user toneprints, stock toneprints, artist toneprints. Categories could be divided with line like between templates and stock toneprints. 2. Toneprint label - when I use stock toneprint in play mode there is label on display: TC ELECTRONIC, when it's my own toneprint there is: LOCAL USER. When I use artist toneptint there is also TC ELECTRONIC label. It would be helpful when there will be label ARTIST or artist name will appear. 3. Empty slot after deleting pedalboard - for example: I have 25 pedalboards. When I delete number 22 this slot remains empty. Then when I create new one it gets number 22. For me it would be nice to shift boards numbers after deleting one in the middle and giving last number for newly created. I know that it could be unuseful for other users, so it could be an option in settings menu like: Delete board: shift numbers/remain empty. 4. Deleting tone prints - It's more a question than an idea. Is it possible to deleted toneprint loaded to Plethora? For example: I've created toneprint and I don't need it anymore. Can I delete it from toneprints list in Plethora? I couldn't find that in app. According to FAQs in video (YouTube one with Scotty & Anders) I'm also waiting for phaser. I think it's must-have in such a device. It also would be grate to have Alter ago toneprints in Plethora! Now I have to save some money and buy drive pedal to complete my rig 'cause I sold almost all my pedals to purchase Plethora. Maybe I should try MojoMojo? :) Sorry for long post - it was supposed to be a mail :) I would be very happy if you find my feedback helpful.
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    • dhpasta
      dhpasta Can I format text in post somehow?
      • June 13, 2020
      • Plethora X5 - few words of feedback
        RexBeckett The only formatting tool discovered so far is that Shift-Enter starts a new paragraph.
        • June 13, 2020
      • Plethora X5 - few words of feedback
        TC-Mike currently not that i am aware of... this is likely just temporary due to the new forum launch last night too.
        • June 13, 2020
      • Plethora X5 - few words of feedback
        TC-Mike here are screenshots on how to disable Pipeline TEMPO feature and how to assign TEMPO subdivision to MASH pressure sensor.
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        • June 13, 2020
    • dhpasta
      TC-Mike Hi DHPasta,

      welcome onboard and thanks for the great feedback. Much appreciated . Glad to hear you like our new Plethora :-)

      We monitor this community closely for fproduct eedback and there is also a feature request post here in the TC Electronic brand tribe /Guitar & Bass forum where you can add your ideas or upvote existing feature requests
      from other users:

      You can also always send product feedback, ideas and questions to our CARE team using the "Support" tab at the top of the page or simply send me a PM…

      Latter is currently not possible unfortunately due to the transition to the new community structure, but the team is working on it.

      Regarding your issue with the tremolo changing, this is due to the Toneprint/setting you are using having the “TEMPO/BAR” feature active, which allows you to specify up to 4 tempo subdivision
      that are cycled through for the duration of a bar. This can be very useful when combined with the tap tempo feature that you can activate via SETTINGS/BOARDS/2NDARY FOTSWITCH FUNTION.

      In order to disable it on a particular toneprint you like, edit the toneprint via the app by disabling all tempo bar fields except the first one.

      P.s. alternatively you can assign the Subdivision that the toneprint uses also to the MASH switch or a connected expression pedal , so you can easily change tempos while always staying in sync with the tapped tempo. Typically you set Mash default to quarter notes,
      so the speed always snaps back to your basic tempo when footswitch is released after mashing . If you just want to switch to eg .8th or 16th notes, set all other curve points to same value.

      In order to delete a Toneprint stored in PLETHORA’s on-board library, select the toneprint you wan to delete in EDIT mode and then press and hold the TONEPRINT push encoder to get the “DELETE” option.
      Press push encoder again to confirm and execute. All on-board toneprints are also available as template via the app, so you can either start off fresh and build your own library from scratch or just edit the available
      Toneprints via the app and store them in your user library for later use and using the STORE TO PEDAL option you update the edited toneprint on the PLETHORA.

      I logged your feedback regarding memory location behavior when deleting board as a feature request. You can use the board organizer of the app to rename boards and change order too.

      The Helix Phaser, Viscous Vibe + a Looper will be available with the 1.2 firmware update scheduled for later this summer…

      What would be your top 3 feature requests for the 1.3 update?

      Best regards from the TC guitar team
      • June 13, 2020
      • Plethora X5 - few words of feedback
        dhpasta Thank you very much for quick answer Mike! I'm happy that you've found my opinion helpful.
        Thanks for solutions - I will mess with tremolo later on
        It's nice to hear that Helix Phaser will come in firmware 1.2! What would be my requests for 1.3? For sure it would be Alter Ago tonprints. I'm very curious about it and it would be good companion for phaser in more vintage tones. Secondly those cosmetic updates I've mentioned above - divided toneprints list, artist labels on effects and maybe active pedalboard number (or shorten name) visible somewhere on display. The third one - filter effect. That would fill list of effects. Kind of LPF, envelope, equalization. With companion of expression pedal that could be use as wah-wah. Also equalizer with toneprints powers could be mighty tool! Ane the forth, becasue it argues with idea of "drive of your choice" it could be booster with some eq possibilities. It could be useful for people (like me) using Plethora in 4CM with drive from amp. But I know it could be done with some addition pedal.
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        • June 13, 2020
      • Plethora X5 - few words of feedback
        dhpasta O, and as Linux user I should upvote request for Toneprint App for unix systems
        • June 13, 2020
      • Plethora X5 - few words of feedback
        TC-Mike i pass this on - with regards to efforts of supporting an additional platform on top of MAC OSX, WINDOWS , iOS and Android versus using the time on other product features instead that's gonna be a tough one to sell ..
        • June 14, 2020
    • dhpasta
      TC-Mike Cheers, noted.
      As for the booster, you can currently also re-function your Pipeline Tremolo as a dynamic boost. Since it can boost output level by up to 9 dB, just assign output level to MASH switch and set Modulation depth to 0% , so you don't get the tremolo. If you don't want a gradual boost, just set all curve points to the same boost value
      Hyper gravity with its 3 bands can also be used to adjust the colour of your signal by using it as a dynamic EQ mapping the gain parameters of the 3 bands to the potmeters.. Try the dynaQ template as a starting point and adjust the boost/cut levels in the app to taste. You can set the X-over frequencies of the 3-bands too.
      • June 13, 2020
      • Plethora X5 - few words of feedback
        GuitarGeorge Hey There TC Mike!
        • July 1, 2020
      • Plethora X5 - few words of feedback
        GuitarGeorge I'm loving my Plethora. The only modulation pedal I can't get rid of is my Crescendo. Any chance that can be added in the next update?
        • July 1, 2020
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