This is how you disable MASH switch to activate the TAP tempo feature on the new 1.2.00 firmware:

• Connect you Fb2 pedal to your computer or mobile device


• Start the Toneprint app 


• Select the Flashback 2 in the Templates view:
  


• Select any template from the list and click on the pencil icon to edit it 
  


• click on the Product Settings tab and then on the MASH switch lever as seen in the screenshot


• 


• you have now disabled MASH switch functionality and the MASH LED should no blink and indicate the current delay time


• the setting is remmebered until you enable  MASH again 

I own a TC Electronic Nova Delay and love the hold tap tempo feature where you can hold down the tap tempo button, play a rhythm and the pedal listens to the tempo you play and matches it. Will that feature be available on the Flashback 2?

Hi TC-James,...Just read about the FB2 firmware update that enables tap tempo in lieu of MASH.  That's a great trade-off in my book, and I'd really like to be included in the beta-testing on this new firmware.  What's the proceedure for getting involved?  Thanks!

George (Seattle, WA)  425-922-8688

I'd like to try the firmware as well.

Glad to see another early owner - feel rather lonely doesnt it! I got mine yesterday and was wondring the exact same thing - from looking on the message boards today it seems that current firmware and next 1.1 is due next week. 

How are you finding it so far ? Im thinking of returning mine as cant get on board (pardon the pun ) with having to use the app to do the majority of editing/stuff 

Hi!

I got mine today and I really like it so far... I saw in their Q&A video that a tuner has been added but I can't activate that so I'm guessing I'm on an older firmware. I can see tha firmware version in the app but do I need to connect to the computer to update via usb? 

Ich habe das gleich Problem mit dem Tuner. Bekomme ihn nicht aktiviert. 

i have the same Problem with the Tuner. 

Hi received my device today as well. Would be great to have some advice on the tuner issue. I don't know how to activate it. And hard to believe... is there really no full manual available? I can only find a "quick start guide". So far I'm not as exited as I expected. And there is no Phaser-effect?

Hi!
I've received mine today! Very excited but… it freezes all the time and I can't even switch between pedals ¿has anyone the same problem? I'm hoping it's a software issue. However, there's no firmware update anywhere.
I'm about to return it ?

I just bought a bh550 and the fan is always on. But It's not an issue at least for me.

Hi Gilmourstrat,

• Plethora's 5 fx slots, et you bypass/unbypass  individual pedals or the insert loop just like a real pedal board 


• triple clicking the first 2 footswitches lets you toggle boards up and down or you can use midi prg changes to load them


• yes, changing board is not seamless,as 5 Fx and hundreds of parameters are initialised, so there is a short mute to prevent clicks for smooth transition


• Plethora X5 doesn't have a Boost pedal included, but you can integrate one via the insert loop (loop can be set to be in front of the board, at the end or anywhere in between

Best regards,

Mike

Many thanks @TC-Mike for the great explanation

Now I know what to expect

you are very welcome, let us know if you have any other questions or feature requests.

Cheers,

Mike

A quick question @TC-Mike :

Is the Plethora a "pure Tone print unit" or can I make my own effect programming as if it was the real pedal? Meaning can I build my own parameters or just use/adjust what's on the Tone Print?

Many thanks!!

Yes, you can completly customize and program the individual toneprint pedals in the toneprint app, just like the pedall counter parts . Only difference is, that you have only 3 instead of 4  potmeters per Fx slot/Toneprint pedal to program, but all p3 otmeter functions are programmable, + you gain MASH switch + Expression pedal as additional parameter modifiers that can be programmed for each slot. Expression pedal can control parameters across several pedals, so you can program crossddfades between blocks of pedals. You program your toneprints in the app while monitoring all settings in realtime + you can use the potmeters to control parameters and touchscreen of your ipad or android tablet. Next firmware update, gets a board manager and tuner and trhen we add more Fx...

Hi there,

I understand your frustration. Just to check a couple of things to get us started ... have you downloaded the latest version of the TonePrint Editor to your Mac and/or PC? The latest version is from last month, so fairly recent: https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categories/Tcelectronic/Guitar/Apps/TONEPRINT-EDITOR/p/P0CLC/Downloads#googtrans(en|en)

Thanks, James.

I do have the most recent version . 

Hi Brian,

OK. There's a few idiosyncracies with regards to the order in which you connect and start things. Please try this:

- The pedal needs to be connected first via USB cable, before opening the app. Then open the app and it should ask you to select a TonePrint slot. On doing this the app should then recognize the pedal. If that doesn't work it'll usually help to reboot the computer or startting the process from the beginning.

This little video might be helpful for you  
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJelHAoGTII

yeah this is kinda annoying. I finally got my Flashback 2 to connect and now my HOF 2 is not responding

Using the same approach?

Thanks, James.

Good idea - is officially recognised?

Vote +1 for:

- Midi Rx channel

- Midi clock (note: selectable at pedal level)

- Midi CC pedal bypass state

comment:

- anything Midi CC really needs ability to set midi Rx channel implementation first (though this is apparently on the way)

Add request:
- BodyRez pedal

Wow, cool list!

well, my votes are:

And if i can  make a request i'll suggest to use the pot as effects level or dry/wet on play mode, so you have a free slot on the edit mode.
And it would be nice if you can control also the params that are not editable on the screen on the edit mode. (instead of using the app).

Add Request:
BodyRez pedal

Thanks!
Lorenzo

Hello,

Based on my first usage I would have the main following requests:

• Possibility to use a pedal without assigning a slot. Mainly for the noise gate which is always engaged for me.


• keep artist tuning when selecting toneprint (not with the current knob position)


• Add Looper


• Add Helix Phaser


• Add EQ Pedal


• add a Wahwah pedal (with expression)


• Possibility to delete factory boards

By the way I love the Plethora !!!

Thanks you

Hi,

super list!

it would also be nice to be able to save the boards on your PC, a back-up...

and to have the option to chose for each slot parallel or serie.so we can decide if we want an effect to influence the next or not ...you could have slot 1&2 with the loop with distortion and 3.4&5 with a delay with a clean tone...

Thanks

Stef

Hi, great idea! First of all, I really love my Plethora, a great and very intuitive platform. Here is my wishlist ?

- Helix Phaser and Viscous Vibe are number one on the list

- Use of the 3 knobs in play mode for on the fly adjustments

- Add the T2 and the Dreamscape which are part of the TonePrint familly

- Add the possibility to use the "4th knob" without using toneprint app (tone on the Corona or Sub2 on the Sub n' up)

- Add digital Drive, Disto and Fuzz for light travellers (like the cab sim) and just in case

- Add the missing Toneprints : there are some toneprints available for individual stomps that are not for Plethora

Stay healthy,

Ben

Hi Carl,

1) No you cannot use and external Expr pedal via MIDI at this point. However, you can connect an expression pedal directly to PX5 expr input and program the expression pedal to control up to 3 parameters per pedal, each with its own parameter value curve. This way you can control parametes across pedals, which is very nifty.. 

Eg map it to FX level with recursive curve to crossfade between pedals etc... 

For more realtime controlk of FX paramter you can use the MASH switch that each FX slot got and that allows you to control up to 3 more parameters per pedal/Toneprint ( MASH is a pressure sensor build into the footswitches, so you get expression functionality build-in to every pedal!)

2) No, you cannot mute individual outputs on a per patch basis. The unit has jack sense, so if only mono output is connected FX signals are summed.

3) Plethora has the Quitessence Harmonizer included, which sounds much better than the old "Wave mechanix" one... 

4) No, there is no global FX volume and like a real pedalboard the overall outåput level depends on the settings of the ndividual pedals used. However, the Expression pedal can be set to work as a volume pedal, so you can control the output level per pedal (or for all pedals) via connected Exp pedal.

5) The Toneprint app is available for MAC and PC and allows the editing and transfer of either artist toneprints or your custom pedal  toneprint creations to the Plethora.

We are also currently working on a board manager that will be part of the Toneprint app for Plethora...

here is an early Ui draft (may/will  be subject to change!)


  Best regards from the TC tribers,

MIke

Thank you TC-Mike @T ,

1. OK, I can live with that and hope for future MIDI expression pedal support. 

2. I understand. But the loop is in mono, perhaps I can place the loop last in the chain and use that as a separate mono output for my main amp...? Please advice. 

3. Sound great.

4. Do all the "pedals" have programable output level? Then that would be good enough for me. Any way to be able to program the volume of a pedal board would be good enough. 

5. The "Board Manager" will be a major time saver. It owuld be great to build all the boards from the TV sofa (or the bathroom... ).

BTW a simple looper would be great when programming and fine tuning sounds. I have a Ditto now to be able to record a guitar part and then my hands free to turning then knobs. Not having a separate Ditto on the physical board would simplify the build and the powering of the board even further. 

Many thanks for the prompt response. I am now very close to ordering one...

1) i'll pass this on. What other Midi related features would you want/need? 

2) Yes, you can insert Loop after the 5th slot at the end to sum to mono, but signal will still be played out via both outputs!

4) all except Noise Gate.  

5) you populate the board via the app and selecting slots on the Plethora . Board manager will be aseperate module tied in to the app/editor workflow..

A simple Looper is planned for one of the next firmware updates as well

Best regards,

Mike

Hi Felix,

thank you for your feedback. With the current Fb2 Midi sync via USB is unfortunately not an option due to the codespace being fully used, so there are no recources left for new features. With the new Fb 2 Firmware update, that is being released next week, we opted to implement a Tap tempo mode instead and could just fit it in, so that other feature ideas had to be dropped.

We keep this in mind when developing new products and have it already logged as a feature request.

In a typical Guitar setup Din Midi is much more common and has better compatibility with other existing midi enabled guitar products. Our new FB 2 X4 has expanded Midi specs including Midi clock and global tap tempo feature, as it also has enough space for standard mid connectors. On the normal sized Toneprint pedals there is no space for a din midi socket.  Would midi support via minijack out and an adaptor work for you too ? 

Best regards,

Mike

Hi Mike,

thank you very much for your detailed reply. It seems I might need to get a good deal for my FB 2 and get a FB 2 X4 instead  

MIDI through a minjack+adaptor would be a good idea for the normal sized pedals, indeed. The reason I specifically asked for the USB/MIDI sync was that there already is a USB jack on the pedal and hoped it could be implemented. In the end I don't care that much how the MIDI connection is made.

Regards,
Felix

@TouringBubble hey Man I am building my first pedalboard to be used with a wah, whammy and a pair of overdrives into my Marshall JVM amp. I really have my eyes on the Plethora X5 but I have a question, I've only used my amp with a boss od in front (sounds great) and i also tried my Headrush pedalboard just for fx with the 4 cable method. The Headrush Is not true bypass so the sound I enjoy so much from my amp with just the boss od in front Is not as good as when I use the Headrush with the 4cm. Am I going to have the same scenario with the Plethora or it Will not mess my amp Tone?

@Manu2004 That's not a simple question, sadly, but let me see if I can help.

First, I don't think true bypass is the issue here. Your Boss pedal isn't true bypass, so the Headrush not being true bypass shouldn't matter.

The main difference between the Headrush and the Plethora is that the Plethora isn't an amp modeler and the Headrush is. This means that the Plethora is designed to be used like a row of 5 TC pedals in front of an amp, and not as a replacement for your amp. It has cab simulation and can do this, but it's not the primary function as designed as far as I can tell.

Chances are that you were using the amp modeling in the Headrush which heavily colored the sound of your amplifier. I've found this with multieffects I've used in the past. It's a learning curve for sure.

@TouringBubble thank you for the response! I disabled the amo and cab sim on the Headrush, i was most a matter of feel, the guitar felt different while running the Headrush in 4cm than just the guitar in front of the amp. It feels like a small (very small) latency. 

Anyway I appreciate your help. 

I'm pretty confused by your modified 4 cable method. I haven't received my plethora but this is how I was planning to set it up.  

Bass->DB Compressor->DB booster->DG Alpha Omega into the front of the amp. Then connect my amps stereo effects loop send into both stereo inputs in plethora, and return both outputs into my amp.

 I would not really need anything in the plethora infront of the Amp maybe just the noise gate, and I don't think I need any of my DG pedals in my effects loop, although I would like to split my stereo signal dry / wet-dry if somehow. Am I missing out by not using the effect loop in the plethora? Is it possible to put a pedal in the plethora effects loop that I could select to only go to cab? Or one said of the stereo? I'm sorry effect loops are very new to me THANKS! 

I have tried 2 setups  ..... both working with help from Matt
1: Plethora in the loop ..... everything in the loop and no possibility to get some effects from the Plethora in front of the amp.
2: Plethora with the 4 cable method ..... you can define with the FXloop insert from the Plethora where the split is ..... which effect in front and which in the loop

I have some effect in front of my amp ..... a Preamp valve distortion pedal (Victory Kraken) connected to the amp with the 4 cable method ...... the Plethora also connected with the 4CM so i can choose which effect goes in front or in the loop.
In the Plethora i have a Noise Gate in front ......  Flanger, Chorus, Delay with footswitch for delay time and Reverb in the loop  (Soft FX loop insert from the X5 btween 1 & 2)    

2 screenshots of the 2 conections