CALLING ALL FLASHBACK 2 USERS!
Thanks to your extensive feedback, we have developed a new firmware update for the Flashback 2 and we are NOW SEARCHING FOR BETA TESTERS!
The update gives users the option of having TAP TEMPO as the secondary footswitch function and true stereo input instead of MASH.
After updating to firmware V1.2.00, you can toggle between MASH and TAP TEMPO as a global setting for your Flashback 2 in the TonePrint App.
Press and hold the footswitch for 1.5 seconds to activate TAP TEMPO control (power LED turns green), then tap the footswitch in sync with your desired tempo to adjust delay times accordingly.
When TAP TEMPO is selected from the TonePrint App the MASH LED will constantly flash to display 1/4 note tempo of the delays, even when the pedal is turned off so you can always tell if you're on time.
The firmware update also fixes a small bug regarding stereo summing in buffered bypass mode when using stereo output.
If you own a Flashback 2 and you'd like to help us beta test firmware V1.2.00, please contact us :
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Hi all, 1.2.00 firmware is now officially released and can be downloaded on the TC website:
https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categories/Tcelectronic/Guitar/Stompboxes/FLASHBACK-2-DELAY/p/P0CKR/Downloads#googtrans(en|en)
Thanks for all the help and feedback. With best regards, Mike TC electronic
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This is how you disable MASH switch to activate the TAP tempo feature on the new 1.2.00 firmware:
I own a TC Electronic Nova Delay and love the hold tap tempo feature where you can hold down the tap tempo button, play a rhythm and the pedal listens to the tempo you play and matches it. Will that feature be available on the Flashback 2?
Hi TC-James,...Just read about the FB2 firmware update that enables tap tempo in lieu of MASH. That's a great trade-off in my book, and I'd really like to be included in the beta-testing on this new firmware. What's the proceedure for getting involved? Thanks!
George (Seattle, WA) 425-922-8688
I'd like to try the firmware as well.
Hi guy
I just got my plethora X5 today. I have a feeling I have got it early than supposed to but I am just wondering how do we know the unit is on the latest firwmare version and where are firmware updates done. Are they done via the app or do we need to download the firmware under thep product support and update using the toneprint editor? I do not see any firmware on the support site so I am just wondering as I want to make sure I am on the newest version
Thanks
Jake
Glad to see another early owner - feel rather lonely doesnt it! I got mine yesterday and was wondring the exact same thing - from looking on the message boards today it seems that current firmware and next 1.1 is due next week.
How are you finding it so far ? Im thinking of returning mine as cant get on board (pardon the pun ) with having to use the app to do the majority of editing/stuff
Hi!
I got mine today and I really like it so far... I saw in their Q&A video that a tuner has been added but I can't activate that so I'm guessing I'm on an older firmware. I can see tha firmware version in the app but do I need to connect to the computer to update via usb?
Ich habe das gleich Problem mit dem Tuner. Bekomme ihn nicht aktiviert.
i have the same Problem with the Tuner.
Hi received my device today as well. Would be great to have some advice on the tuner issue. I don't know how to activate it. And hard to believe... is there really no full manual available? I can only find a "quick start guide". So far I'm not as exited as I expected. And there is no Phaser-effect?
Hi!
I've received mine today! Very excited but… it freezes all the time and I can't even switch between pedals ¿has anyone the same problem? I'm hoping it's a software issue. However, there's no firmware update anywhere.
I'm about to return it ?
Hello,
very excited about the newcomer Plethora X5. It seems a great and somewhat portable pedalboard.
A couple of questions:
Many thanks in advance!
Hi Gilmourstrat,
Best regards,
Mike
Many thanks @TC-Mike for the great explanation
Now I know what to expect
you are very welcome, let us know if you have any other questions or feature requests.
Cheers,
Mike
A quick question @TC-Mike :
Is the Plethora a "pure Tone print unit" or can I make my own effect programming as if it was the real pedal? Meaning can I build my own parameters or just use/adjust what's on the Tone Print?
Many thanks!!
Yes, you can completly customize and program the individual toneprint pedals in the toneprint app, just like the pedall counter parts . Only difference is, that you have only 3 instead of 4 potmeters per Fx slot/Toneprint pedal to program, but all p3 otmeter functions are programmable, + you gain MASH switch + Expression pedal as additional parameter modifiers that can be programmed for each slot. Expression pedal can control parameters across several pedals, so you can program crossddfades between blocks of pedals. You program your toneprints in the app while monitoring all settings in realtime + you can use the potmeters to control parameters and touchscreen of your ipad or android tablet. Next firmware update, gets a board manager and tuner and trhen we add more Fx...
OK, since I feel it is time-consuming to go through all the different posts to get an overview of all the existing feature requests for the PX5, I decided to create a comprehensive list here.
So, what I did is go through all the PX5 feature request posts that currently exist (at least all I noticed) and put all those requests in here. Where there were multiple requests, I added votes to the existing ones (1 vote = original request, 2 votes = original request + one endorser).
If you have additional requests you can't find in this list, just add one in a comment below and I will try to keep track and manage the list in the original post. Same goes if you want to endorse an existing feature, just add a +1 comment. This would give everybody a better overview of where the community priorities are.
TOP 10
1. Add Looper
2. Add Helix Phaser Effect
3. Edit POT Params in play mode (tied with 2.)
4. Select signal direction (L2R or R2L)
5. Add EQ Pedal
6. Global Tap Tempo (tied with 5.)
7. Additional cab sims (tied with 5.)
8. MIDI CC to enable/disable single footswitch (tied with 5.)
9. Add Vicous Vibe Effect
10. MIDI clock support (tied with 9.)
Effects / Pedals | ||
Feature | Votes | Comment |
Add Looper | 8 | On Roadmap for 1.2 |
Add SpectraComp | 3 | |
Add BassOverdrive |
3 | |
Display delay time in bpm while editing delay pedal |
1 | |
Add EQ Pedal |
5 | WORKAROUND: With Hyper Gravity's 3 band gain features you can also emulate a dynamic EQ which is a nice workaround for not having a dedicated EQ. (try DynaQ template and adjust the gain ranges of the 3 bands to taste via app) |
Add Vicous Vibe Effect |
4 | On Roadmap for 1.2 |
Add Helix Phaser Effect |
7 | On Roadmap for 1.2 |
Add Metronome Pedal (with tap tempo) |
1 | |
Allow Tuner to occupy a pedal slot |
1 | |
Support trails while switching boards |
3 | Currently PX5 is muted shortly |
Edit POT params in play mode |
7 | |
Add Boost effect |
1 | WORKAROUND: You can use the PIPELINE tremolo as a Booster as it can gain output with up to 9 db.. Just set mod depth to 0% and assign outlevel (0dB to +9dB) to MASH switch (via app) or Exp pedal and voilá... a dynamic clean boost |
Tap Tempo via expression pedal |
2 | |
Global Tap Tempo |
5 | |
Additional cab sims |
5 | Bass cabs also |
Program MASH switch to enable/disable multiple slots |
1 | |
Select signal direction (L2R or R2L) |
6 | |
Add Envelope Filter effect |
3 | |
Add BodyRez pedal |
2 | |
Pot as effects level or dry/wet in play mode | 2 | |
Keep artist tuning when selecting toneprint | 1 | |
Add Wahwah pedal (with expression) |
2 | |
Configure parallel and series signal routing |
3 | Currently all pedals are in series |
Add DreamSpace pedal |
1 | |
Add Trinity 2 pedal |
2 | |
Enable "4th" Pot without TonePrint App |
2 | |
Add Fuzz effect |
1 | |
Stereo/Mono Control |
1 | https://community.musictribe.com/t5/Guitar-and-Bass/Plethora-X5-The-Ultimate-Feature-Request-Thread/m-p/299140/highlight/true#M1075 |
CarlBigsby Board Mgmt |
1 | https://community.musictribe.com/t5/Guitar-and-Bass/Plethora-X5-The-Ultimate-Feature-Request-Thread/m-p/299140/highlight/true#M1075 |
Add the classic TC2290 panning chorus | 1 | |
Allow NoiseGate to be inserted w/o assigning it to a slot. | 3 | Currently occupies a slot. |
Add stereo capability to Pipeline Tremolo | 1 | |
Advanced routing configuration | 1 | See @SmashAshby comment https://community.musictribe.com/t5/Guitar-and-Bass/Plethora-X5-The-Ultimate-Feature-Request-Thread/m-p/299388/highlight/true#M1090 |
Custom Expression Pedal calibration | 1 | Similar to Flashback X4 |
Multiple effect presets within board | 1 | |
Sensitivity setting for MASH | 1 | |
Stereo FX loop | 1 | May not be technically possible |
Display board name in play mode | 1 | |
Save/confirm changes in edit mode | 1 |
MIDI Features | ||
Feature | Votes | Comment |
MIDI CC to enable/disable single footswitch | 5 | Currently in beta testing |
MIDI CC to enable/disable global bypass | 1 | |
MIDI over Bluetooth | 4 | |
MIDI clock support | 4 | |
Tap Tempo via CC | 1 | |
Modify POT parameters via CC | 3 | |
CC for expression pedal | 3 | |
CC for MASH function | 2 | |
MIDI PC to enable/disable multiple switches at once | 1 | |
Configure MIDI channel | 2 | |
Bypass FX Loop via CC | 2 |
TonePrint App Features | ||
Feature | Votes | Comment |
Edit/create individual boards | 2 | seems to be in the planning, but only board order and renaming available in 1.1 firmware and 4.3 TonePrint app |
Easy connect via Bluetooth | 1 | Currently need to go into BT connect menu on PX5 |
Backup/save boards to PC | 2 | |
Enable all TonePrints as available for separate pedals | 1 | |
Set overall per board volume/gain | 1 |
Good idea - is officially recognised?
Vote +1 for:
- Midi Rx channel
- Midi clock (note: selectable at pedal level)
- Midi CC pedal bypass state
comment:
- anything Midi CC really needs ability to set midi Rx channel implementation first (though this is apparently on the way)
Add request:
- BodyRez pedal
Wow, cool list!
well, my votes are:
Feature | Votes | Comment |
Add SpectraComp | +1 | |
Add BassOverdrive | +1 | |
Add EQ Pedal | +1 | |
Support trails while switching boards | +1 | Currently PX5 is muted shortly |
Edit POT params in play mode | +1 | |
Tap Tempo via expression pedal | +1 | |
Global Tap Tempo | +1 | |
Additional cab sims (bass cabs also) | +1 | |
Select signal direct (L2R or R2L) | +1 |
And if i can make a request i'll suggest to use the pot as effects level or dry/wet on play mode, so you have a free slot on the edit mode.
And it would be nice if you can control also the params that are not editable on the screen on the edit mode. (instead of using the app).
Add Request:
BodyRez pedal
Thanks!
Lorenzo
Hello,
Based on my first usage I would have the main following requests:
By the way I love the Plethora !!!
Thanks you
Hi,
super list!
it would also be nice to be able to save the boards on your PC, a back-up...
and to have the option to chose for each slot parallel or serie.so we can decide if we want an effect to influence the next or not ...you could have slot 1&2 with the loop with distortion and 3.4&5 with a delay with a clean tone...
Thanks
Stef
Hi, great idea! First of all, I really love my Plethora, a great and very intuitive platform. Here is my wishlist ?
- Helix Phaser and Viscous Vibe are number one on the list
- Use of the 3 knobs in play mode for on the fly adjustments
- Add the T2 and the Dreamscape which are part of the TonePrint familly
- Add the possibility to use the "4th knob" without using toneprint app (tone on the Corona or Sub2 on the Sub n' up)
- Add digital Drive, Disto and Fuzz for light travellers (like the cab sim) and just in case
- Add the missing Toneprints : there are some toneprints available for individual stomps that are not for Plethora
Stay healthy,
Ben
So i have tried to submit a tickit and of course ( like many others i see) it didnt go through.I have tried to connect my FB2 to 2 different computers, a Mac Pro on 10.13.6 and a windows 10 PC and neither recognise the pedal. I am using a brand new cable from the box as well as a brand new cable from the Hall Of Fame 2 box to no avail. I have always just beamed toneprints to the pedal but cannot use the editor. I confirmed the latest firmware. Please help. This costumer service really has me second guessing my Begringer Poly D purchase i am about to make.......
Hi there,
I understand your frustration. Just to check a couple of things to get us started ... have you downloaded the latest version of the TonePrint Editor to your Mac and/or PC? The latest version is from last month, so fairly recent: https://www.tcelectronic.com/Categories/Tcelectronic/Guitar/Apps/TONEPRINT-EDITOR/p/P0CLC/Downloads#googtrans(en|en)
Thanks, James.
I do have the most recent version .
Hi Brian,
OK. There's a few idiosyncracies with regards to the order in which you connect and start things. Please try this:
- The pedal needs to be connected first via USB cable, before opening the app. Then open the app and it should ask you to select a TonePrint slot. On doing this the app should then recognize the pedal. If that doesn't work it'll usually help to reboot the computer or startting the process from the beginning.
This little video might be helpful for you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJelHAoGTII
yeah this is kinda annoying. I finally got my Flashback 2 to connect and now my HOF 2 is not responding
Using the same approach?
Thanks, James.
Hi,
it would be great if the Flashback 2 could be synced to MIDI Clock via USB. It's already recognized as a class compliant USB MIDI device and can sync to tap tempo. So it shouldn't be too hard to implement.
Kind Regards
Felix
Hi Felix,
thank you for your feedback. With the current Fb2 Midi sync via USB is unfortunately not an option due to the codespace being fully used, so there are no recources left for new features. With the new Fb 2 Firmware update, that is being released next week, we opted to implement a Tap tempo mode instead and could just fit it in, so that other feature ideas had to be dropped.
We keep this in mind when developing new products and have it already logged as a feature request.
In a typical Guitar setup Din Midi is much more common and has better compatibility with other existing midi enabled guitar products. Our new FB 2 X4 has expanded Midi specs including Midi clock and global tap tempo feature, as it also has enough space for standard mid connectors. On the normal sized Toneprint pedals there is no space for a din midi socket. Would midi support via minijack out and an adaptor work for you too ?
Best regards,
Mike
Hi Mike,
thank you very much for your detailed reply. It seems I might need to get a good deal for my FB 2 and get a FB 2 X4 instead
MIDI through a minjack+adaptor would be a good idea for the normal sized pedals, indeed. The reason I specifically asked for the USB/MIDI sync was that there already is a USB jack on the pedal and hoped it could be implemented. In the end I don't care that much how the MIDI connection is made.
Regards,
Felix
Plethora X5 could seriously simplify my rig without compromising on the sound quality. But before ordering one I have a couple of questions.
1. Can I use the MIDI-pedal on my my MIDI control board to use it as an expression pedal for Plethora X5?
2. I will use mine in stereo, but I don't always need or want stereo sounds. Is it possible to program to mute the the second output channel when using certain "pedal boards". E.g a song start with a big stereo intro, but when the verse start I change "pedal board" to smaller sounding one in mono which is muting my second guitar amp.
3. The harmonizer in G Major 2 is great and the best I have tried (even better than my Eventide PF). Is Plethora X5's intelligent pitch shifter as good as the one in GM2?
4. Can the output volume be set individualy for each "pedal board"? E.g. to get different output levels between rhythm playing, solo and intros.
5. Will it be possible to create complete pedalboards on a Mac/PC?
Thanks.
Hi Carl,
1) No you cannot use and external Expr pedal via MIDI at this point. However, you can connect an expression pedal directly to PX5 expr input and program the expression pedal to control up to 3 parameters per pedal, each with its own parameter value curve. This way you can control parametes across pedals, which is very nifty..
Eg map it to FX level with recursive curve to crossfade between pedals etc...
For more realtime controlk of FX paramter you can use the MASH switch that each FX slot got and that allows you to control up to 3 more parameters per pedal/Toneprint ( MASH is a pressure sensor build into the footswitches, so you get expression functionality build-in to every pedal!)
2) No, you cannot mute individual outputs on a per patch basis. The unit has jack sense, so if only mono output is connected FX signals are summed.
3) Plethora has the Quitessence Harmonizer included, which sounds much better than the old "Wave mechanix" one...
4) No, there is no global FX volume and like a real pedalboard the overall outåput level depends on the settings of the ndividual pedals used. However, the Expression pedal can be set to work as a volume pedal, so you can control the output level per pedal (or for all pedals) via connected Exp pedal.
5) The Toneprint app is available for MAC and PC and allows the editing and transfer of either artist toneprints or your custom pedal toneprint creations to the Plethora.
We are also currently working on a board manager that will be part of the Toneprint app for Plethora...
here is an early Ui draft (may/will be subject to change!)
Best regards from the TC tribers,
MIke
Thank you TC-Mike @T ,
1. OK, I can live with that and hope for future MIDI expression pedal support.
2. I understand. But the loop is in mono, perhaps I can place the loop last in the chain and use that as a separate mono output for my main amp...? Please advice.
3. Sound great.
4. Do all the "pedals" have programable output level? Then that would be good enough for me. Any way to be able to program the volume of a pedal board would be good enough.
5. The "Board Manager" will be a major time saver. It owuld be great to build all the boards from the TV sofa (or the bathroom... ).
BTW a simple looper would be great when programming and fine tuning sounds. I have a Ditto now to be able to record a guitar part and then my hands free to turning then knobs. Not having a separate Ditto on the physical board would simplify the build and the powering of the board even further.
Many thanks for the prompt response. I am now very close to ordering one...
1) i'll pass this on. What other Midi related features would you want/need?
2) Yes, you can insert Loop after the 5th slot at the end to sum to mono, but signal will still be played out via both outputs!
4) all except Noise Gate.
5) you populate the board via the app and selecting slots on the Plethora . Board manager will be aseperate module tied in to the app/editor workflow..
A simple Looper is planned for one of the next firmware updates as well
Best regards,
Mike
Hi all,
after a lot of user feedback there are now brand and product specific "Sub forums" available that brings back some of the structure of the old TC user forum to make it easier to find content and the right place for posting your questions, experiences and everything else around and about Tc products.
Best regards from the Tc tribers,
Mike
Great!!
And when will this be done for Behringer, Midas (and all others). Special for M/X32 users it is still a big mess. Can't still find anything anymore and this is my first comeback visit since months because of this mess. A lot of old forum users are already gone and proberly never return. This was really a bad and stupid way to go while the real old forum concept works.
Hi Vasco,
i don't know, but am more than happy to pass your feedback on.
We know that there is still a lot of work to do, but the design team is very responsive to feedback and the implementation of the brand tribes are a step into the right direction making it easier to figure out where to post.
If you have any other suggestion on how to make the community more user friendly, please let us know. you can also messege me in private and i make sure all feedback is documented and passed on to the right persons.
Best regards,
Mike
Hi Vasco,
brand tribes for Midas and behringer are avaiable now:
https://community.musictribe.com/t5/Midas/ct-p/MI
https://community.musictribe.com/t5/Behringer/ct-p/BE
best, Mike
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