249,735 members
126,798 posts
  • New
    Triber Moderator



    Hi, this is Paul from Music Tribe. We have been recently made aware that people have been questioning Uli Behringer’s promise to donate 1,000 synthesizers to Children in Need around the world.

    I am personally in charge of this project, as it is not only very dear to my heart but also incredibly important to Uli. We have been diligently working on this project for months, and will absolutely deliver on our promise to provide synthesizers to children’s charities and foundations. We have even increased the amount from 1,000 to 1,500 synthesizers to serve all of the many organizations below.

    Selecting the right organizations together with our global partners and going through proper due diligence, whilst overcoming the challenges of Covid this year, hasn’t been a simple task. This project has taken longer than we would have liked, but I can assure you that we have been very carefully selecting and approving charity organizations, which I am more than happy to share with you.

    We’re currently working directly with over 100 organizations around the world, many of which I have listed below. Given the nature of the charities and their commitment not to engage in any commercial activities, whilst also protecting the identities of the children they support, we did not want this to be turned into a marketing exercise, hence it all happened quietly in the background and without any publicity.

    I am personally saddened that this has now been turned into a public event. In order to verify any of my statements, please feel free to directly contact any of these organizations about our partnership. I am also very happy to facilitate any communication should you wish to: [email protected]

    Music Tribe Charity Partners: 

    • Nordoff robins
    • Playing For Change Foundation
    • Soundabout
    • Banardos
    • Hope for children
    • Music for all
    • Songwriting charity
    • Scholas ocurrentes (fundacion papa francisco) capital federal
    • Scholas ocurrentes (fundacion papa francisco) rosario (pcia de sta fe)
    • Scholas ocurrentes (fundacion papa francisco) cordoba
    • Orquesta escuela papa francisco
    • Escuela de musica de buenos aires (emba) 3 escuelas
    • Fundacion cultural “la escuelita” cordoba
    • Escuela de musica “la colmena”
    • Escuela de musica de la ciudad de bs as publicas y gratuitas
    • Escuela provincial de musica de santa fe
    • Instituto superior de musica del litoral
    • Escuela municipal de musica “j b  massa”rosario santa fe
    • Fundacion “el aula de musica” de corrientes pcia de corrientes
    • Taller de musica y arte “del yesso”en corrientes, pcia de corrientes
    • Escuela de musica orfeo  Mendoza pcia de mendoza
    • Escuela de musica “el faro”mendoza pcia de mendoza
    • Centro de expresion artistica “pinkanta” pcia de san juan
    • Fundacion “fundartis”pcia de salta
    • Fundacion musicarte  Pcia de salta
    • Escuela de musica “el puente” santa rosa pcia de la pampa
    • Academia de musica “los sonidos” santa rosa  pcia de la pampa
    • Fundacion crecer con musica y sonidos neuquen pcia de neuquen
    • Escuela superior de musica de neuquen pcia de neuquen
    • Fundacion luminis escuela de musica neuquen pcia de neuquen
    • Escuela de musica “alturas”rio gallegos pcia de santa cruz
    • Escuela municipal de musica rio grande tierra del fuego
    • Escuela urbana de musica y artes ,ushuaia tierra del fuego
    • Fundacion “nep”escuela de musica en ushuaia, tierra del fuego
    • Escuela de musica “ ulp” san luis pcia de san luis
    • Escuela municipal de arte la rioja, pcia de la rioja
    • Instituto superior de musica en san miguel pcia de tucuman
    • Projeto som + eu (two schools)
    • Projeto guri
    • Projeto praticatatum
    • Asmb – ação social pela música do brasil
    • Grupo cultural afroreggae
    • Projeto música para todos
    • Sabra – sociedade artística brasileira
    • Aasjn – associação ação social jesus de nazaré
    • Projeto som do morro
    • Comunidade católica servos e servas da santíssima trindade
    • Projeto sol maior
    • Projeto música & cidadania
    • Orquestra de guaraci
    • Projeto visão mundial
    • Projeto música encantada
    • Projeto educando com arte
    • Projeto tonekids
    • Projeto som e vida
    • Projeto orquestra criança cidadã
    • Projeto ateliê dj
    • Reciclando sons
    • Associação musical alegro
    • Projeto social show de bola
    • Projeto cidadão do futuro
    • Instituto anelo
    • Projeto conviver
    • Prima – programa de inclusão através da música e das artes
    • Projeto acorde
    • Projeto escola harpa de davi
    • Instituto santa cecília
    • Projeto música e cidadania
    • Samba para todos
    • Projeto favela brass
    • Ação musical
    • Arte do protagonismo
    • Notas & canções
    • Amigos da orquestra
    • Música e cidadania
    • Projeto candango musical
    • Construindo música
    • Potências sonoras
    • Instituto cultural grão de areia
    • Projeto cultural waldir azevedo
    • A música salva
    • Sons de um resgate
    • Sonoro despertar
    • Uma nota musical
    • Projeto acordes mágicos
    • Bem me quer paquetá
    • Orquestra jovem paquetá
    • Amor e esperança
    • Scar – música para todos
    • Scar – orquestra jovem
    • Instituto água viva
    • Tocando a vida
    • Projeto música vital – multiplicando talentos
    • Pracatum – escola de música
    • Música em ação
    • Projeto social dentro da música
    • Projeto social a música do lixo
    • Comunidade musical
    • Instituto baccarelli
    • Harmonicanto
    • Ong atitude social
    • Programa guri
    • Projeto locomotiva
    • Projeto novos sonhos
    • Aacamus
    • Aebas
    • Ipdae
    • Orquestra jovem do rio grande do sul - ojrs
    • Projeto ser criança - cpcd
    • Violão solidário
    • Ong instituto árvore da vida
    • Quabales
    • Asafe
    • Poc – pequenos obreiros de curuçá
    • Ong aldeia da fraternidade – educando com arte
    • Neojiba
    • Acelera jovem
    • Afrape
    • Projeto renascer
    • Incase – instituto canarinhos de sergipe
    • Iasa – instituto amigos de santo andré / projeto ambiente musical
    • Projeto santo antônio
    • Projeto educarte – lar das crianças
    • Projeto casa verde - osses
    • Projeto melodia em movimento
    • Favela mundo
    • Projeto viva música
    • Projeto missão criança
    • Projeto primavera social
    • Projeto musical
    • Ong verde vida
    • Escola nazarena de música
    • Alma de batera
    • Sementes musicais
    • Ilha de música
    • Geração da chico
    • Orquestra maré do amanhã
    • Projeto banda escola
    • El tejano
    • Taita
    • Quelavi
    • Escuela nacional del folklore jose maria arguedas
    • Centro de educacion especial luis braille
    • Sinfonia por el peru " nucleo manchay"
    • Centro social musical barrios altos
    • Conservatorio nacional de musica
    • Estimada amiga te pase la relación de las instituciones que se destinaría los productos/controladores a donar
    • San jose esposo
    • San isidro
    • Fundacion guadelupe
    • Hogar albino luis
    • San jose
    • Santa elena
    • Aldeas infantiles sos
    • Adra paraguay
    • Hogar de ninos
    • Hogar de ninas el puente
    • Lourdes xiomara garcia
    • Yessie angelina godoy figueroa,
    • Fundadela
    • Fundación remar
    • Fundación adentro
    • Creamusica
    • Street kids direct
    • Gama music
    • Fundación de sistemas de orquestas de guatemala
    • fundacion de creadores de música
    • fundación jesús castillo love e iglesia vida real
    • Fundación red educativa arquidiocesana rea
    • Fundación nueva vida, de la arquidiócesis de guayaquil
    • Centro de terapia los robles, villa alemana
    • Escuela: “juan segel” comuna de freire 9° región
    • Clases de música gratuita “proyecto de formación musical papageno”
    • La academia de música el centro
    • Establecimientos comuna de freire 2020
    • Ong intermundos, caribe ( santa marta, palomino y taganga)
    • Fundacion cultural arca, bogotá
    • Fundación cantares, sincelejo
    • Fundacion vivat, medellin
    • Fundacion arte y parte, cali
    • Fundacion de los planetas, bucaramanga
    • Fundacion bambarabanda arte movil, pasto
    • Fundación batuta, cobertura nacional
    2 4,891
  • marco_m_berlin
    Contributor - Level 3

    Hi, I am sure, Ulli Behringer is interested in every BUG in a TD3.

    i think he will never know - due to this non working ticket system.

    1. The slide function is not accessable via midi control.

    2. Slide speed is 4 times faster than with a tb-303 or any other clone in the world.TD3_vsTB03_CV_slide.png


    We need a firmware update. AND A FEEDBACK THAT YOU HEAR IT.
    Marco Mueller / Berlin / Germany

    4 2,359
    • marco_m_berlin

      they dont hear, and they dont want to hear. I will return the td-3.. 

      besides the slide behaviour is the smallest of the bugs..

      no1 is that writing of linked patterns is not working.. essentially crippeling the device to a one bar motiv only device.. inferior to the original 303, that does 4 bar motivs, and all good clones that do even 8 bars.. What is especially important on real time tap input, since this alows longer recording times and long held notes.. 





      • December 23, 2019
    • marco_m_berlin

      and just too add a few more.. in case i am wrong and they really have a look here.. in this most deserted forum on the globe..

      no2 heavy bug)

      wrong handling of the pitch memory.. 

      On the original 303 each bank shares a pitch memory.. each pattern has its own start within the pitch memory.. when the number of pitches is exceeded by the time infos, the rest if the pitch buffer is used.. parts of neighboring patterns.. That results in musical usefull results.. as longer you write one bank as more likely all pitches fit harmonical. even your own style gets visible in the additional pitches used. Thats part of the musical ghost of the 303.. the td-3 just inserts low c notes in any case it dont knows what pitch to use.. thats unmusical programming that leads in 100% of the cases to unmusical results, that need manual edit/ repair. A big workflow killer, that makes stage writing too risky to be performed. 

      3.2) transpose flags of pitch memory get lost when leaving write without doing a time write/edit routine

      4) pattern transpose not working when leaving write mode without stopping

      5) tap write in external sync bug





      • December 23, 2019
    • marco_m_berlin

      New Firmware 1.2.4,  Slide Speed is correct now. Thanks to Behringer!

      Slide via Midi Control is still not availabel.  





      • January 6, 2020
    • marco_m_berlin

      Yes please make for us a update.. Uli ❤️

      • January 19, 2020
    • marco_m_berlin

      where do you download firmware from?


      thank you

      • January 28, 2020
  • HeikoKnuettel
    Regular Contributor - Level 1

    It should let me configure the D, the Odyssey and the VC340.


    VC340: Synth found, but update not possible ("Failed, check network and press to retry")

    Model D: Synth is not found

    Odyssey: Synth is not found


    All synths are present in the device manager and can be played via MIDI or USB.


    0 2,234
    • HeikoKnuettel

      It has nothing to do with the synths themselves but with some computer systems. I had the same problem. I closed all other audio us-drivers in the device manager, than the synths were recognised, I could update, I opened all drivers again...fine.

      I opened a case for it, the asked me for all details, they are aware of it and they are working on it. 

      Hope this also works for you. 

      • October 2, 2019
    • HeikoKnuettel

      Thank you very much, that worked!

      I hope they get rid of this auto-selection of synths. Even if it worked (which obviously isn't the case) it is annoying if you have more than one synth, you always have to turn the others off.

      • October 2, 2019
    • HeikoKnuettel

      It's not working here for me either. The Synth Tool sees that my Model D is connected, but when I click on "Update" all I see is version 1.1.1 and a box beneath that which says "Loading".

      Nothing happens for about a minute, then I receive the same message: "Failed, check network and press to retry."


      I've tried this on two separate PC's, both connected to the interent, and I get the same result on both machines. One is running Windows 10 64 Bit (latest version) and the other is running Windows 7 64 Bit (latest version). 

      • October 3, 2019
    • HeikoKnuettel

      Update doesn't work for me either, on none of the 3 synths. Deactivating other drivers helped so that the tool at least found them.

      I added a rule for the windows firewall, but to no avail, updating doesn't work.

      My D is on Firmware 1.1.1 too.

      • October 3, 2019
    • HeikoKnuettel

      It see's my Odyssey and I can change all the settings and sequences but when I go to the update page I just get ("Failed, check network and press to retry")

      Please release the OS updates seperately till the synth tool is fixed, and the rest of the settings as sysex

      • October 5, 2019
  • Hrieck
    Contributor - Level 2


    unfortunately the clock divider is lost in the latest synth tool. would be great, if this will be come back in the next versions. couldn't get to Behringer via support ticket, because the CRAVE is not listed.

    Thanks in advance


    2 1,524
    • Hrieck

      Same for the Oddysey too please 

      • December 20, 2019
    • Hrieck

      @Hrieck wrote:


      unfortunately the clock divider is lost in the latest synth tool. would be great, if this will be come back in the next versions. couldn't get to Behringer via support ticket, because the CRAVE is not listed.

      Thanks in advance


      I just wrote a support ticket too. Since Crave was not listed I just picked the first thing on the list, and wrote CRAVE on the subject of my support ticket.

      • December 22, 2019
    • Hrieck

      @LauraTodd wrote:

      @Hrieck wrote:


      I just wrote a support ticket too. Since Crave was not listed I just picked the first thing on the list, and wrote CRAVE on the subject of my support ticket.

      Actually I am downloading an earlier version of Synthtool from Nov. 8. Perhaps if I deleted the current version & installed that, it would help me overwrite the upgrade and go back to version 1.0.6.

      • December 22, 2019
    • Hrieck

      Today I got this message from George Hernandez at Music Tribe:

      "I have received an update from the developers on the clock division issue. Apparently many users have complained this was too difficult to use so it was decided it will not be returning. I don't agree this is the best course of action but I'm told the manuals will be updated to reflect this."

      What??? The Tempo Knob is too difficult to use?? Or was he talking about that procedure in the Manual, where you press "shift, Hold, *8" etc. I wrote back & asked him to clarify.
      He also said he could send me a sysex of the downgrade. That's nice, but as a former Ableton user, I'm not too well versed in old-fashioned things like sysex and MIDI Ox.
      Give me back my Tempo Knob that every synth should have, or I will be officially Un-Craved.

      • January 2, 2020
    • Hrieck

      Today I succeeded in installing the Firmware Downgrade to version 1.0.6. I used a freeware called MIDI OX to pass the sysex file of the downgrade. Happily, I was successful and now that I have the tempo knob back, I'm happy & will keep my Crave!

      If anyone doesn't have a programming background & doesnt know how to use MIDI OX, I created a pdf file describing the process. It's not too difficult but old programs are a little awkward with their phrasing. Standard disclaimer, use at own risk, and I don't think MIDI Ox works with Mac.

      Good luck!


      Crave firmware downgrade.pdf
      • January 2, 2020
  • ananto
    Contributor - Level 1

    after the latest crave1.1.1 update, my sequencer steps are still locked in auto-mode to 1/16, just like before.

    what am i doing wrong? when i just got my crave it worked!

    Thanks, Pete.

    0 1,408
    • ananto

      After FW update mine falled back to Internal I think or somthing.

      I needed to use Synthtools.exe to put it to Auto Mode (I have no idea how to do this on the device as the pages seemed to have changed again).

      Now with external (MIDI here) clock the divider works fine.

      • January 21, 2020
    • ananto

      While looking for a updated pdf (or somewhere else) with info about the config pages I found this. The following is a copy all info from that post, in case it disappears there:

      The current Crave firmware (1.0.9) changes the settings values. There is now a page 3 and a page 4, whereas the manual only mentions pages 1-2. I've experimented with it and I think I've figured out what all the pages do now. Here's what I've figured out:
      Behringer Crave Firmware 1.0.9

      Enter/Exit settings mode = Shift + Hold/Rest + 8
      Use < and > to change page.
      Use 1-8 to set value. Use shift + 1-8 for values 9-16.

      Page 1 = CV Trigger Rate
      1=1 PPS
      2=2 PPS
      3=24 PPQ
      4=48 PPQ

      Page 2 = Assign Value
      2=Sequencer Clock
      3=Sequencer Clock/2
      4=Sequencer Clock/4
      5=Sequencer Step Ramp
      6=Sequencer Step Saw
      7=Sequencer Step Triangle
      8=Sequencer Step Random
      9=Sequencer Step 1 trigger Output
      10=MIDI Velocity
      11=MIDI Channel Pressure
      12=MIDI Pitch Bend
      13=MIDI CC1
      14=MIDI CC2
      15=MIDI CC4
      16=MIDI CC7

       Page 3 = Clock Source
      2=MIDI DIN
      3=MIDI USB

      Page 4 = CV Trigger Polarity

      • February 8, 2020
    • ananto
    • ananto
      Darkside @calli: Sorry for accidentally messing with the document. The reason for that happening is a fact, that screen reader users are not often being thought about enough in those modern days of everything being online and "so easy to access and edit". As this is a nice collection of information and will probably be edited and added to in the future, so may-be there shall also be a link to directly downloadable or at least not directly editable version of the document, so sutch silly accidents won't happen - on my side at least. Keep up the good work and thanks!
      • May 13, 2020
    • ananto

      No Problem!

      Of course I did not think that far, because normally everyone can use the export function to get a Version of his favorite format.

      You can use this link which should be keept updated automagically:

      • May 13, 2020
  • jstck
    Contributor - Level 2

    (cross post from a different forum section, thinking this is probably the more appropriate one)

    I recently got a Behringer Crave, and I want to play it with a wind controller via MIDI. I want to use some MIDI CC message from the breath pressure to control the filter cutoff. I can set this up by having the "Assign" CV output to a suitable CC (such as channel aftertouch or modwheel, I can use either), and patching "Assign" to "VCF Cutoff".

    However, when doing so, the filter modulation is very "chunky", it appears as if the CV value output is only updated on every sequencer step. I don't have the sequencer actually running, but turning the tempo knob changes the update rate (from "every couple of seconds" to "a couple dozen times a second"). Still, this is not nearly often enough to create a smooth filter sweep, and I would expect the CV value to change every time a MIDI message comes in, and not "quantized" by the sequencer.

    If I use a separate MIDI-to-CV converter or another synthesizer instead of the Crave MIDI in, and patching that to the CV inputs of the Crave, everything plays just fine and the filter sweep is nice, smooth and responsive.

    The other issue I have is with regards to pitch bend. When you play a note and then bend it, everything works fine. When you release the pitch bend wheel, it goes back to "zero bend". However, if you hold the pitch bend wheel and then play a note, things get weirder. Let's say you have the Crave set to the standard +/-2 semitones, and hold the pitch bend wheel "full down". When you play the note, it starts out at -2 semitones, but as soon as you move the wheel a little bit, it jumps down to -4 semitones. Releasing the wheel (still playing the note), it moves to -2 semitones, and "full up" will then take it to 0. It's very obvious if you release the wheel and keep the note going, it's still stuck at -2 (even though pitch bend is centered), releasing the key and pressing it again will give you a different note (the "unbent" one). Not sure how well I explain this, but it's obvious if you try playing a note with the pitch bend wheel already "bent".

    Both of these seem to me like they could be firmware issues dealing with the incoming MIDI data, and maybe something that can be fixed. At least the pitch bend issue seems like it can't be intended behaviour. About the CC/Assign issue, I haven't seen anything in the manual that could control that behaviour, or if it is the intended one, but it seems off to me.

    I discovered these issues on firmware version 1.0.4, but they have persisted through a couple of updates up to 1.0.8. I have only tried "plain MIDI in", not USB, but I've tried with a couple different MIDI controllers (and compared with other synths), and the issue is isolated to the Crave.

    Does anyone else experience the same issues, or know of any way to get around them?

    1 1,383
    • jstck

      Update: After working a ticket back and forth with customer support, from firmware 1.0.9 (via SynthTool 2.2.0), both the pitch bend and the "assign out" issues have been resolved. It now plays soooo much better with my wind controller.

      • December 3, 2019
  • shushstudio
    Contributor - Level 1

    Hi there, I have a major problem. The first time I used my Deepmind 12 connected via USB midi (I had previously used it not connected to check out the sounds) there was some kind of malfunction as it played itself, and even when I pulled out the USB midi lead, it continued to play.) I thought it might have been a problem with the synth itself so, I tried it again and eventually decided to update the firmware but to no avail. This was cured by trashing Logic X preferences so bad midi instructions must have been being sent. This fixed the autonomous strange play problem. I then noticed that the patches had changed in there sound and were not correct. So I restored the synth using the PROG WRITE key commands on startup restoring all steps 1 -5. Again it made no difference. I downloaded SysEx librarian and ran and installed the factory combined presets using SysEx librarian. However, the original factory sounds have not been re-instated instead I still have the messed up sounds after the midi problem incident.   

    Can anyone help me get the synth back to the original factory patches, it is working fine now apart from this, but sadly is of little use to me as the sound patches are now unusable. Thanks Dx

    0 1,279
    • shushstudio

      Your manual shows you how to reset your DM12 to factory defaults, this will reinstate all patches.

      • June 6, 2019
    • shushstudio

      Make sure when you are restoring that the USB cable is disconnected from your computer.

      • July 5, 2019
  • will7370
    Contributor - Level 1

    Thomann has photos of the Odyssey with multi colored LEDs.  Is this something that is coming?  Or was that just a special?  Because I want to buy one with colored LEDs.  I'll wait if I have to. 

    1 1,269
    • will7370

      It appears they are adding colored LEDs to new versions. Because they are easily replaceable, I will be attempting to add my own colored LEDs. I am choosing to go with the non-transparent colored 2x3x4 for personal aesthetics which resemble the original Arp Odyssey colors when not illuminated, although a lot of people prefer transparent LEDs that only light up the color it emits when turned up.. The only issue I know of with after market LEDs is that the voltage may vary by color so some may or may not work, or work well. I will keep you posted. I am hoping that Behringer will offer replacement LED kits for reasonable price. But, you can always buy after market 100pcs LEDs for under $5 with shipping. 

      • October 16, 2019
    • will7370

      i saw some guys at the internet who put some coloured caps on the white led. i have also white led on my odyssey. but i like them more than the coloured ones. 


      • November 17, 2019
  • Hans-Georg
    Contributor - Level 2

    Hi All,

    Does anyone knows, how the COPY, PASTE buttons work on the TD-3?

    I appreciate your reply.

    Kind Regrads

    0 970
    • Hans-Georg

      1.Mode: Write

      2.Function:normal mode source pattern

      4.while  pressing FUNCTION Button  press ( 1.copy 2.destination pattern 3. paste)

      5. release FUNCTION button happy

      Grüße, Marco


      • January 8, 2020
  • HeikoKnuettel
    Regular Contributor - Level 1

    As soon as you click the update button the USB device is disconnected and the update progress hangs at 0%.

    When you turn the synth off and on again, and restart the Synth Tool, you get an error message saying that the synth is in use by another DAW - which isn't true. After restarting the computer you can repeat the procedure.

    Tested with Odyssey and VC340. My Pro 1 and K-2 are up-to-date, but I would bet that it is the same with them.

    And, for ficks sake...PLEASE get rid of the device autoselect. If you own more than one Behringer synth, you always have to turn off the others if you want to connect to a specific one, which is pretty annoying.




    0 928
    • HeikoKnuettel

      I had same issue with my crave and model d.

      .I did not power off the crave , and restarted the syynth tool.

      After this i could update both device.

      • November 16, 2019
    • HeikoKnuettel

      Thanks for your reply.

      In the meantime it looked like the attempts to update those two synths bricked them.

      The Odyssey disappeared from the device list in the device manager, turning off and on, using another USB cable, using another USB port didn't help, it simply wasn't recognized any more. The VC340 stopped making any sound, you could press any key you want. Was about to contact my retailer.

      I remembered the procedure to get the Neutron update running - just again and again install that special USB driver, reboot and replug and turning off and on.

      After an hour it finally worked. Despite just doing the same things over and over again.

      Behringer hardware is really great quality. The software, until the Deepmind, was too. But everything since then has been annoying as hell. They are really in need of some new developers.


      • November 16, 2019
    • HeikoKnuettel

      This sounds familiar.

      Didnt I write at another place to check your USB installations with USB Deview, because of the device limit on Windows - and I assume you use that platform, since you said nothing else. There may be some driver interference as well.

      This is not a problem of the developers but of Microsoft still having that stupid USB device limit in there, that is filled up easily because even if you plug the same device to another port a new registry entry is made.

      • November 18, 2019
Go to page