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  • PatrickGMaillot
    Valued Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-13
    X32ReaperAutoMate update #2 is available! Besides supporting 4.0, the program now can autoselect the IP used for REAPER and provide a very consistent way of handling catch-up situations when the user jogs or loops back in time. This also applies and works for all other cases during RtZ, Stop or Pause. Go to https://x32ram.com for more information and to download the update, available for licensed users.
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  • danhennings
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-11-13

    I have an RMA for an M32. Have any of you found a shipping box for your console, and if so, where?

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  • GaryHiggins
    Superhero - Level 1
    2019-11-12
  • timning1990
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-11-11

    Does Midas offer any standard 19" rack munts for the MR18? The ones they came with are 3/4" too long for standard rack cases. Would love some insight.

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  • awanppmc
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-11-10

    I am not getting enough signal from a couple of microphones I am using as band area mics.   The microphones are SM58s that are plugged into a 16 channel snake, which are then ran into a DL32.  The DL32 then runs to two consoles over ethercon, a Midas M32 at the main mixing position, and a Behrenger x32 at the monitor position. We cannot seem to get enough signal, if I push the gain to full I'll maybe get some distant chattering. 

    Is there a way to increase the gain on the band area mics?

    Also, is there a way to set phantom power on a DL32?  We have tried but the stagebox doesn't respond to the console.

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    • awanppmc
      CraigFowler

      The SM58s aren't fantasic to use as band area mics.  They're not as sensitive as you need them to be, and they have a cardioid pickup pattern.  They're great for a single vocalist, with their mouth 2" away from the mic, not so good at picking up sound from a large area.  You can add 60dB up to 60dB of gain, and then a further 18dB of digital trim, but I don't think it'll work very well.  You'd be better off with a different mic. Even a drum overhead would probably do a better job.


       


      Re +48V, you've said that you're using 2 consoles.  Only one console can control the preamps on the DL32, so make sure you're using the correct console.  Setup>Preamps can be used even if those preamps don't apply to actual channels.

      • November 9, 2019
  • DaveMorrison
    Rock Star - Level 2
    2019-11-08

    At the current time, M-32 edit v4.0 is available to download. However the link to the Mac version is wrong (3.2). I'm guessing the firmware will follow very soon???

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    • DaveMorrison
      DaveMorrison

      Wow! This is gonna take a minute to digest.


      User In and User Out are cool. Now I wanna rebuild my whole setup.


      @Paul_Vannatto  It seems that Output 1-16, Ultranet, and Aux In are still the only way to add a Mixbus to any outputs. Does that mean we (potentially) have a triple staged output system? For example. Mixbus 1 > Output 12 > User Out 48> AES50-B 48 (and/or AES50-A 8)?


      I suppose all this new power will lead to some serious thinking. How do we explain it to new users?

      • November 8, 2019
    • DaveMorrison
      KenMitchell

      @DaveMorrison  - I've got a headache reading what you just wrote.   I wish I had the time to write a graphical routing tool that allowed scene editing and saving.   This new firmware is going to require a lot of pencil and paper sketches.  Fire up the scanner. 


       


      Ken

      • November 8, 2019
    • DaveMorrison
      CraigFowler

      Saw some of this on Reddit a couple of weeks ago.


       


      It looks like using the User IO we can move away from the blocks of 8 a bit, especially wrt inputs.  It looks like we can get source signals from anywhere outside the DSP using the UserIn tab, and not be restricted by the blocks of 8.  2 local preamps (not necessarily in the same block of 8, in fact not even next to each other) + 1 card in + another local preamp + 1 aux socket + 2 remote preamps + another card in, all in 1 block of input signals is now possible, without needing to burn other input blocks, or get creative with the AuxIn Remap, or re-assign channel sources.  Yay.  Also, the internal TB mic and ExtTB preamp are both available as separate sources; so no more burning a bus to get TB to a channel.  Then once we've "staged" the UserIn tab, we can apply those userIn blocks to the input tab.  Alternatively, if we're happy with the blocks of 8 as is, we can route inputs normally, ignoring the UserIn tab alltogether.


       


      This makes a lot of my previous posts redundant. 


       


      Re outputs, it looks like we can just do the normal stage to block then assign block to output as per usual, however the UserOut tab can be used for things like passthrough without relying on blocks of 8, similar to input blocks, but can also be used to mix and match DSP signals staged in the out1-16\aux out\ultranet tabs in too, in pretty much any order, ie in the one block-of-8, you can get the signal from output5 in the out1-16 tab (eg bus5, post fader) appearing next to the signal from output15 on the ultranet tab (eg DirOut ch15, In\LC,) appearing next to a tap straight off a remote preamp from a stagebox connected to AES50A, then a signal from a cardin (eg a click track, no need to assign the click to a channel,) then the signal from a preamp from a stagebox connected to AES50B.


       


      Basically we've almost hit routing nirvana (though IMO the app could use some workflow tweaks.)

      • November 8, 2019
    • DaveMorrison
      KenMitchell

      @CraigFowler  - you guys scare the heck out of me.  I feel like I'm on an amusement ride and my head is spinning and I'm just about to... <deleted>


       


      Ken

      • November 8, 2019
    • DaveMorrison
      DaveMorrison

      When I saw that 4.0 (M32-Edit) was available, I had to look. Thankfully all the old ways seem to work. But the User In and User Out tab were mind numbing for a bit. I couldn't even understand the GUI for 10 or 15 minutes. It makes sense now.  

      • November 8, 2019
  • Ishai
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-06

    Hi- is there going to be an update to the virtual console software to 64 bit so it runs in El Capitan?

    Thanks

    Ishai

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    • Ishai
      KenMitchell

      Hi @Ishai , 


       


      Welcome to the community.  I think you mean "Catalina" as in macOS 10.15? My personal take on 64-bit updates is "don't count on it".   Not being specific to Midas or any other vendor,  I just don't count on maintenance releases that are forced by an OS change.  I stay on the latest version that works until I know all of my tools have been updated AND confirmed working on the new OS.  Where things get sticky is when you have to purhcase a new computer and can't get it with anything but 10.15.  In this case, I'd look for clearance sales on older models that have the older OS. 


       


      Hope this helps, 


      Ken 

      • November 7, 2019
  • S-Audio
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-05

    I am trying to route the effects out to my DAW. I have assigned a guitar track to a sterio reverb but as it stands now the effects are coming back on bus 13. I would like to be able to record the guitar to a track and record the effect on a seperate track but can't finger out the routing scheme to move the effects to the card outputs .

     

     

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    • S-Audio
      DaveMorrison

      @S-Audio 


      With default routing, something like this would work


      Screen Shot 2019-11-05 at 9.39.39 PM.pngThis would put FX1's signal on (virtual) outputs 3 & 4 which also would be routed to USB 3&4 (and XLR 3&4). Alternately you could use either Aux Output or Ultranet to send to the card (USB). 


       

      • November 5, 2019
  • Krabbe
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-11-05

    Hi 

    I've got a band with 7 member, who's considering buying a P16-system. Recently I stumbled upon the DP48-system, which, to me, seems more attractive than the P16-system.

    However, I'm interested in knowing if it is possible to daisy chain multiple DP48s and if so, how many units can be daisy chained?

    Fingers crossed that someone can help me out

    /Krabbe

     

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    • Krabbe
      GaryHiggins

      @Krabbe Paul or Robert will know for sure but the units use aes50 and not an ultranet port, they have an in and a thru aes50 port and power is supplied using POE so I'm sure you can link "many". The ultranet port of the p16 with p16D's added could support I believe up to 64 p16M's? Anyway I'm sure at LEAST 4 could be linked, with each supporting 2 mixes-that would give 8 people mixes of their own. My guess is it would support many more, but I'm a guesser!


      https://www.midasconsoles.com/Categories/Midas/Signal-Processors/In-Ear-Monitoring/DP48/p/P0BMX#googtrans(en|en)


       

      • November 5, 2019
    • Krabbe
      KenMitchell

      I think it might also depend on what the functionality of the "yet-to-be-released" HUB4 is when it comes to the remote configuration and also the back-channeling of the mixes.  That could limit the number of DP48s in a chain. 

      • November 5, 2019
    • Krabbe
      GaryHiggins

      @KenMitchell The Hub4 kind of sounds like the dp48 equivalent of the P16D, I'm guessing (I do a lot of that) it takes an aes50 line, adds the POE component and supplies 4 dp48's which can each then pass on 1 via aes50 thru (they each have a thru)? As you said that bidirectional aes50 48 ch count makes things a bit sticky. Can't wait to find out! I'll get 10 or so to go with my new WING

      • November 5, 2019
    • Krabbe
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi @Krabbe,


      I can provide some insight regarding this new personal mixer. Daisy chaining of the DP48 is done in a similar manner to the P16's in that each DP48 has input and thru AES50 ports and would require the included power adapter. The Hub4 provides POE on the AES50 to eliminate the need for the power adapter if the DP48 is connected directly to it (similar to the P16-D). 


       


      The Hub4 is a 1U form factor that provides for up to 4 DP48 as well as input and thru AES50 ports. But it also has a lot of routing flexibility in it. One of the features is that you can connect up to 8 stereo IEMs to the back of it, that are mixed from the connected DP48. Each DP48 can accommodate 1 or 2 musicians. 


       


      I've been beta testing these since the beginning of July with 9 tribute bands (from all over Ontario, Canada) and 9 local bands - and everyone loved them. One of the events was a Woodstock 50th Anniversary (Aug 16) that had 1 local band and 5 tribute bands in 9 hours. That allowed approximately 30 minutes between bands. As part of the transition, I had to set gains (only one band showed up for soundcheck), show everyone how to use their DP48's, change mic placement, etc. At the end of each set, I got rave reviews from each of the bands. That shows how user-friendly the DP48 can be - if the sound engineer is prepared to spend some time ahead of the event setting it all up (and the riders from the bands are up to date and accurate).


       


       

      • November 5, 2019
    • Krabbe
      GaryHiggins

      Hey Paul @Paul_Vannatto , so what is the real world limit to the number of DP48 units on a single mixer? Have they said? Can a stagebox be cascaded off (and back thru) a DP48 or Hub4? In other words if you use the DP48 on a port A or B of a mixer, is that port more or less used up or can other things still be connected? Also the aes50 assignments, are you "stuck" with the ch assignments used on a port (A or B) elsewhere for the available DP48 ch's? For instance say I use out 1-8, out 9-16 for mixbuses and foh and have 17-24 set for say aux1-6/M and then say card 1-8 for 25-32 and p16 for the rest. Are these then then also aes50 ch choices for the DP48? If so it would seem then that one might be better off keeping one port exclusively for the DP48's and use the other port for other mixers and stageboxes?

      • November 5, 2019
  • Asullivan1
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-11-05

    Mr18. My unit is in transit with FedEx expected delivery Wednesday 11-6-19 for repair. Case# 01025568

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