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  • jalbornoz
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-07-01
    What is the maximum number of DP48 units that can be dasy chain connected, each using its AC adapter? Is it necessary to use a HUB4 for multiple units? Can DP48s be used with Behringer X32 consoles and get all 32 channels?
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    • jalbornoz
      john0121 Hi Jalbornoz, I spoke to one of the developers about this a while back.

      We don't have a fixed max number. There is a max of 99 device IDs for master/slave remote control, but it is depending on the clock/signal integrity what can be achieved realistically. The clock jitter will add up from hop to hop, depending cable quality and length.

      Bear in mind POE will only work on the 1st DP48.

      Alos there's 8ch streaming back to hub/console. Which means that return signals of the first 6 DP48 can be received at the hub/console, any additional one's will be lost.
      • July 1, 2020
    • jalbornoz
      DaveMorrison To answer your last question: You can use all 32 channels, and the 6 Aux channels, and have room for 10 more channels (for example, USB returns). All you have to do is put it on the AES50 bus.
      • July 1, 2020
    • jalbornoz
      GaryHiggins If you have an X/M32 with V4.02 firmware there is a dedicated section for the 48 DP48 assignments (well hidden) in the Library menu. Hit the Library button and scroll over to AES50. I only mention it because it took me forever to locate it. Also you need to use the out 1-16, aux out 1-6 and ultranet out 1-16 creatively to get direct outs of all 32 ch's and access all tap points. it otherwise follows the aes50 default routing which is out 1-8, out 9-16, out 1-8, out 9-16 again then p16 1-8 and p16 9-16
      • July 1, 2020
    • jalbornoz
      Indiana You can power them all with Poe but you just have to inject the power in between each DP48 as the units cannot pass the power through. We just did all our runs back and forth from our rack and have them all powered with Poe.
      • July 1, 2020
      • How many DP48 units can I connect to dasy chain?
        GaryHiggins Hey Josh, can you elaborate the "back and forth from your rack"?...curious what you did without the hub4. I have injectors for mine as well but I'm curious as to your solution with regard to poe.
        • July 2, 2020
      • How many DP48 units can I connect to dasy chain?
        Indiana Gary, we home runned them all. What I mean by that is we started at our rack behind the stage. Then we ran out and back to our floor pockets. Each floor pocket will have (1) DP48. In our rack we mounted a multi-port Poe injector. The ports are Data in, then Data+power out. Since the DP48's do not send power through, you just run the through port back to the next data in port. Then back out to the next DP48. I'll post up a drawing later this weekend after we have fully tested and ran on that system.
        • July 2, 2020
  • Martin4995
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-06-28
    It has taken me 2 days to get registered. Now that I can login I still can't get to much of anything on the website. I either get a gateway time out or bad IP address from the responding server. Is this normal? How can I get the firmware update for my Midas M32r Live?? It seems like an awesome mixer, but if I can't get support, I'm not sure it is worth it.
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    • Martin4995
      Paul_Vannatto No this is not normal. I've been on this forum since December 2012 and the last 4 days has been the worse it has been trying to get logged in or refresh of the site. I think we are all getting the continuous timeouts and bad IP errors. What version do you currently have? Here is a copy of 4.02
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MNFmKZ9pmGT3vMbAnnRw9u4qyy2NvY-M/view?usp=sharing
      • June 28, 2020
      • Website Functionality Midas M32R Live firmware update failure to find
        Martin4995 I have version 3.12. I just bought this unit Friday and really like it, other than not being to find certain operational things. I would imagine that they are having a server issue of some sorts. Hopefully they will get it sorted soon! I'm sure everyone feels the same way. Thank you for the update, I think I saw a Youtube video about how to do the upgrade of the firmware. I'll give it a shot. thanks again
        • June 28, 2020
      • Website Functionality Midas M32R Live firmware update failure to find
        Paul_Vannatto The Midas M32 site is back up and running. Here is the link to the downloads https://www.midasconsoles.com/Categories/Midas/Mixers/Digital/M32R/p/P0BI9/Downloads#googtrans(en|en)
        The firmware I provided (the previous link) may be an X32 firmware.
        • June 29, 2020
    • Martin4995
      -mjk- Yeah, they're constantly working on updates to the firmware, but we won't be able to even get them at this rate.
      • June 29, 2020
      • Website Functionality Midas M32R Live firmware update failure to find
        Nigel67 Hi mjk, I can only apologise for the delay, but we have been moving all the data to new servers over the weekend. If you could tell me which software you require and an e-mail address that I can send it to, then I will forward it on to you.
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        • June 29, 2020
      • Website Functionality Midas M32R Live firmware update failure to find
        BillFleming I would like the 4.02 version of the firmware for the M32 and whatever version FW you recommend for the DL16 - you can send to [email protected] FWIW everytime I try to load an M32 support page my browsers complain about too many redirects. Thanks
        • June 30, 2020
      • Website Functionality Midas M32R Live firmware update failure to find
        -mjk- Thanks Nigel. No, I should apologize. I was just needlessly complaining. Sorry for adding to your burden.
        • July 2, 2020
  • Asullivan1
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-06-27
    I’m having trouble getting a claim ticket filled out for repair on my MR 18. Both right and left main Have quit working or if they do work will go out in the middle of a service have been having to use for outside services at church. When both went out I plug the main speaker in auxiliary three to finish service so I don’t have problem with chords or speakers. Auxiliary one is running monitors good . Auxiliary to we are running Facebook live with no problem
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    • Asullivan1
      RexBeckett Make sure that all the fields in your profile are filled-in. Missing or invalid data in the profile can cause Care ticket submission to fail. It has been discovered that an empty Title field (Mr, Ms, etc) can cause ticket submission failure - even though it is not marked as required.

      There are clearly still many problems with this site and these could be affecting the Care ticket system. You may need to retry submission a few times.
      • June 28, 2020
    • Asullivan1
      Nigel67 Hi William Sullivan, did you manage to submit a Care ticket? It should be possible now. If not please let me know and I will try to help you further.
      • June 29, 2020
      • MR18
        Asullivan1 No I still have not been able to
        • June 29, 2020
      • MR18
        Asullivan1 No I still have not been able to
        • June 29, 2020
    • Asullivan1
      Nigel67 Hi William, I have just seen your case in our system. I see you are in the USA and my colleague David has replied to you. I am very sorry for the inconvenience of the past days, but we were moving all data to new servers and it unfortunately took a little longer than expected.
      • June 30, 2020
    • Asullivan1
      Asullivan1 Thank you for your help hopefully will be able to get this repaired or replaced it’s very vital for the way we are having to do our church services. You said David has replied to me But I’ve not seen anything
      • July 1, 2020
      • MR18
        Nigel67 Hi William, this would be a really strange set of circumstances if this wasn't you as there is another William Sullivan asking about a repair to his MR18 in our system and he has been replying. Is your e-mail address [email protected]? if not can you give me the case number you were given and I will check it out. Many thanks
        • July 2, 2020
      • MR18
        Asullivan1 Yes Mr. Turner it may be me I was contacted yesterday from technical service asking for more information when I tried to send it to the email they had given me it has been closed said for me to create a newService request. I don’t know if all my information is on my profile or not because I can’t get to it I would appreciate help getting my unit repaired thank you
        • July 2, 2020
  • MEffertz
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-06-24
    I can not fine a real manual for the 4.01 firmware for M32/C. I've learned a lot by viewing youtube video's. Non are details about any one subject. I've even reached out to my supplier/retailer. He trying to contact people asking. I haven't found anything on this site either. Whats there is for downloads on the M32C is basics on physical configuration.
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    • MEffertz
      DaveMorrison There is no manual that covers version 4. If you have specific questions, ask them here. There's still a few people that can answer your questions.
      • June 23, 2020
    • MEffertz
      GaryHiggins You should also ditch 4.01 firmware IMO and load 4.02. The 4.01 had lots of bugs. And yes ask here, we have our resident genius with photographic memory, also the guy who pretty much wrote the book on everything X/M32 routing. And a few others of us who know a thing or 3 and many new and eager mods. The history is being updated so there should be more available past threads to search soon enough (we hope) This new forum is but 2 weeks old and being fine tuned as we speak.
      • June 24, 2020
    • MEffertz
      MEffertz My Bad - I am on firmware 4.02. Its the M32 Edit that I'm on ver 4.1
      • June 24, 2020
  • GaryHiggins
    Superhero - Level 1
    2020-06-19
    version 1.4 is posted
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  • balky
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-06-19
    Now that I have this m32r Live mixer, I can really see the difference between this and m32r. The buttons do look cheesy - cheap plastic with painted labels - this is eventually going to get erased. I ve seen buttons like that on various portable recorders, etc. NOT long lasting. And I watched a video where a guy is showing how motorized faders work: so fast! On LIVE version it is almost twice as slow (with fast faders enabled). And in that video faders work in sync. On live version, it seems first one group of faders moves, then the other. sort of by turn. Really weird. I feel really cheated that I could not get the real m32r and got this one :(
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    • balky
      Paul_Vannatto Hey Pavel, first issue - check assignments to those buttons. They are probably assigned to the time of delays and act as tap tempo buttons (and blink according to the time settings). Second issue - slow faders - upgrade the M32 firmware to latest (4.02). There is now a setting to increase the fader speed.
      • June 18, 2020
      • M32R vs. M32R LIVE
        balky Paul, thank you very much! I knew I would come out stupid. I did figure out why those buttons blinking But as far as fast faders, I do have this option enabled, and I mentioned it. with that in mind, comparing to the m32r on youtube video, it is still not as fast ... oh, well. there is much I can do about it anyway... I wanted to get that version, but it was sold out at every store I 've been to
        • June 18, 2020
    • balky
      GaryHiggins Load up firmware 3.07.
      • June 18, 2020
      • M32R vs. M32R LIVE
        balky Hey, Gary! Thanks so much. I tried this software: the faders moved like crazy LOL. But, there are some things that do not work like scene names turned into some number signs with "go figure out" names. Edit app does not work with that firmware... So, it was cool for the sake of experiment to try. Unfortunately, returned to 4.2 Well, at least I know that it is all in the hands of firmware
        • June 19, 2020
      • M32R vs. M32R LIVE
        GaryHiggins The reason that's true is the Edit v 4.01 wont work with it. Now you are back to 4.02 try fast fader setting. With V 3.07 you need to use the older version of M32-Edit the version of Edit you use is 4.01 and will only work for version 4 mixer firmware and above.
        • June 19, 2020
      • M32R vs. M32R LIVE
        balky I figured that much I've always used Fast faders feature. It was not as fast as in 3.07 though. Oh well. It is not a problem, I am concerned more about these buttons... afraid to touch them so the ink would stay longer LOL
        • June 21, 2020
      • M32R vs. M32R LIVE
        balky You know what I wanted to ask?! 2 things: 1. Does the board switch sample rate automatically? Or it has to be manually set every time? If so, that's really annoying. I have different projects, and every time I open a 48 Hz project it sounds slow LOLL it scares the hell out of me! It does not even tell you CHANGE SAMPLE RATE. Weird. With presonus it would just change the rate. 2. Well, I kind of suspect that the answer to this one will be NO, but I will ask anyway Is it possible to connect to mixer from outside the local area network? It would be very handy for me I could control the board from outside my home... Thx
        • June 21, 2020
  • Nigel67
    Triber
    2020-06-18
    Hi everyone and welcome to the new Music Tribe Community. My name is Nigel and I am based in Kidderminster, UK as Customer Quality Support Specialist for Mixers. Please do not hesitate to contact me should you require any assistance with your products, I will be more than happy to help. I have been working with Midas and Klark Teknik products for many, many years and will be more than willing to help if you have any questions regarding the older products as well.
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  • DwayneAasberg
    Super Contributor - Level 1
    2020-06-15
    Hi all. We are developing an installation at our church with two M32s - one for FOH, one for web broadcast. Both M32 will access the same physical IO. Each M32 has an associated PC running M32-Edit. Both PCs are connected to the facility LAN. We desire to share scene/snippet/library elements between the two installs. Is there a way to set the default folder for M32-Edit to a LAN connected share or folder? I went looking for m32-edit.ini but the file doesn't exist. Thx in advance for your assist. Dwayne A
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    • DwayneAasberg
      RexBeckett M32 Edit settings are saved in the folder: C:\Users\name\AppData\Roaming\M32-Edit.
      I don't think this will help you though. It looks to me as though Windows manages the folder pathnames and defaults to the last one used.
      • June 15, 2020
    • DwayneAasberg
      DwayneAasberg Hey Rex. Thx. You're right. Doesn't look like much help. Guess we'll have to experiment a bit. Thx.
      • June 15, 2020
    • DwayneAasberg
      MEffertz Hello - I have a suggestion. In Windows many of the location folders in a users profile are, to put it one way, redirectable.
      • June 23, 2020
    • DwayneAasberg
      MEffertz Here is what I.ve done I'm using OneDrive and change/moved the location of "Document" folder to the OneDrive folder. On every computer I have OneDrive on. the contects are copied. So I just change "Document" folder location on all computer that I want same data accessed. The all see the same M32 data.
      • June 23, 2020
  • Johnferg
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-06-15
    Hi all. I would like to output a mix bus on my church's M32 to an iPad for streaming. I took over the audio tech role and found that the iPad is currently connected by way of an XLR to TRRS cable. The signal is massively overdriven and has sounded like garbage ever since it was hooked up and we started live streaming. I think there may be a balanced/unbalance connection mismatch or maybe an impedance mismatch. Even when lowering the output level considerably there is a lot of noise and distortion. The VU meter on the iPad looks fine though. I can monitor this mix bus through headphones plugged into the board and it sounds great. There are a few ways I am thinking of doing this: 1. Card out USB type B to lightning cable. If I just send one mix bus to the card, maybe the iPad will recognize this as a class compliant audio source. 2. XLR to some kind of audio interface such as "iRig Pro Duo". Seems like overkill for what I am trying to accomplish but would buy if this would work. 3. Attenuator cable such as "Headset Buddy" to lower signal strength. 4. RCA to TRRS cable. Theorizing the lower output level and unbalanced signal produce better results. This seems like such a simple task but I am a novice and there are many different options available. Your suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
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    • Johnferg
      DaveMorrison Solution #1 is your best bet. Get Apple's Camera Connection Kit. Most Apps will receive audio on USB channels 1-2. Some Apps can do multi-channel audio.
      If you use any analog output, you'll need a level matching interface. The +4dbV will overdrive the iPad's -10 dBu audio in. In the old days, I could never record from the FOH mixers output into a consumer cassette recorder (without a lot of distortion).
      • June 14, 2020
      • Best way to get audio from M32 to iPad for streaming
        Johnferg Thanks very much for the help, Dave. I just bought it. The digital signal should produce great results and this is a very inexpensive solution. Much appreciated!
        • June 14, 2020
  • AlexNL
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-06-14
    hi, when does the 'learn' section become online again? i would like to see Midas interview with Steve Lagudi online. when will that be online? regards, Alex
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    • AlexNL
      Dale_M Alex good question! Currently, we have no webinar section as this is probably a few weeks away at the moment.

      In the meantime if you want to give me your email, we can send you a link to stream it from my colleagues one drive, I hope that helps.
      • June 24, 2020
      • New website
        AlexNL Thank you for picking this up. Sent Uli a message that i did not like that more than 50% is missing in the 2.0. will sent you my email address.
        • June 24, 2020
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