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Hi Christopher @ChristopherDeme,

What you describe is a very odd scenario. But if when connecting the M32, set as Internal sync, the X32 A sync light goes green, it is an indication that the X32 sync is not truly set to Internal, since there can only be one master clock anywhere in an X32/M32 eco-system. The other thing to check is that the S16 are set to modes 1 or 2 (SN Master light is off).

@Paul_Vannatto Lol, odd doesn't even begin to describe it.

In stand alone it operates as it should. No sync on AES50 A or B only internal.

When I am connected to the m32 I use the m32 as the master and x32 as a slave. I set x32 sync to AES50 A and it syncs. If I switch sync from AES50 A to AES50 B (Nothing connected) it loses sync and goes red. Switch sync back to AES50 A and it goes green again. Unplug the CAT 5e from AES50 A and it goes red again BUT the "x32" appears in the A diplay. So something is working correctly, just not the something I need. 

This one wins for craziest glitch I've seen. I wish there was an easy way to maybe flash the SW on that card or the duaghter card attached. Seems to be an odd SW mishap...maybe.

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@ChristopherDeme wrote:

@Paul_Vannatto 

Unplug the CAT 5e from AES50 A and it goes red again BUT the "x32" appears in the A diplay. So something is working correctly, just not the something I need. 

 

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That is because when you unplug the cat5e cable, there is no longer any master clock in your eco-system (since the M32 was the master clock). When that happens, the X32 is in limbo state. It has to have a master clock assigned - but only one.

@Paul_Vannatto exactly right. So something is working properly relative to seeing or not seeing a master clock but other parts of whats happening over that interface are not fully operational. Thats what makes this so odd, I would say fun but I'm in a time crunch so less fun. Still fascinating though.

I only have a few more hours before I have to call it and get somehting else. I've put in a request with Behringer support this AM but my guess is I won't hear back in time. 

EDIT:

In testing the console further I found the ultranet port no longer functions. The plot thickens.

A picture for reference. Just did a factory reset and it's sitting stand alone with no connections other than main power.

Hi Rob @robnoxious,

Welcome to the forum. What you describe could be a combination of output assignment and parallel path issues. The best way for us to help troubleshoot is for you to save one of your scenes to a file, zip it and attach it to your next response (Choose File button below). 

Attached is the zip scene in question.  Thank you for reviewing.

Hi Rob @robnoxious,

Unfortunately something glitched and that scene is empty (no OSC commands). Please try again.

Apologies for the error in first file and for delay in responding.  Attached is the most recent file.

Hi Rob @robnoxious,

What is the Main L and R connected to? If it is the S16 (in mode 1), there is a routing problem (Routing, Out 1-6). These outputs are not assigned to any of the outputs 1-8. Main L is assigned to outputs 9 and 15, and Main R is assigned to output 16.

Answer to your second part of the question. Yes firmware and X32 Edit common across all versions of the X32 range. 

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@NeilMillward wrote:

Has the x32-q for iphone been discontinued?  It doesn't seem to be in the app store anymore.

 

I have now got both the x32 compact and full sized desk - is all the software the same?  ie. same firmware, and will my x32-edit work with both?

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Hi Neil, 

Good to hear from you again. The X32-Q was developed on an older development platform which is no longer supported by the newer iOS. So that is probably why they pulled it from the app store. The M32-Q should still work for both M32 and X32. But the good news is that Mixing Station has now been ported (from android) to iOS and is available on the app store. We all love using Mixing Station Pro - worth checking out.

@RichardYClark answered your second question correctly.

@AlRubio_Jr_ 

Under Routing, select the Output 1-16 tab. Assign the output you want (14?) to MC

Almost certain that we tried doing that, but may have been on the "wrong page" or some such mistake, what with the unfamiliarity pertaining to the S32/AES50 protocols.
Doing a lot of reading and video watching in the interim - will attempt again tomorrow.
Thanks so much!

@AlRubio_Jr_ 

The routing can be a little confusing. The Output 1-16 is an intermediate stage. You have to set it there before the AES50 can "see" it.

I've got a sneaky suspicion that will never happen.

When I finally got a used Core I almost immediately replaced it with a Rack. 

Hi @McElviss ,

An X-Touch controller would give you a physical surface most like that of a mixing desk. The motorized faders, bank switching and LCD scribble-strips make it quite easy to use for live mixing.

@McElviss 

What Rex said. And you can run more than one X-Touch at the same time (not the extender).

@McElviss 

1. Scribble Strips

2. Motorized Faders

3. Connection via Ethernet or MIDI

4. Simultaneous Control of the XR16s faders and transport controls of a DAW

5. Access to all channels, Busses, and FX returns with a push of the bank buttons (Faders and scribble strips follow the changes)

6. Sends-on-Fader for all Aux Busses (they can't be controlled via MIDI)

7. More resolution from the faders (not just the 128 steps of a MIDI continuous controller)

8. No Programming

A generic MIDI controller can control faders and panning. If it send OSC, you can control nearly anything.

When I'm mixing and playing guitar, I bring my X-Touch because it's easy to make changes. And the faders always show the true state of the mixer. Changing a monitor level is simple.

How about the X Touch mini? Would that give us basic volume/EQ/Aux Send control on the fly? And plug straight in with no programming?

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@McElviss wrote:

How about the X Touch mini? Would that give us basic volume/EQ/Aux Send control on the fly? And plug straight in with no programming?

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@McElviss 

You could use an X-Touch Mini connected to a tablet running Mixing Station XAir (MSX). MSX can learn and associate Midi messages with most mixer controls. This has the advantage of providing good visual monitoring of the various controls.

You could also connect an X-Touch Mini to an XAir via a USB/Midi converter. See this thread. The XAir Midi implementation only supports basic faders, masters and mutes - so not EQ. Some programming of the X-Touch Mini is required. This technique works but it is much more limited than a full X-Touch.

I don't know for sure, but if the MS 101 output is mono, using a mono to stereo adapter cable will not yield desireable results. This is why most mixers and/or amplifiers have a "left/mono input. You cannot get stereo from a mono source. Most older synths (Minimoog, ARP Odyssey, etc) were mono. 

@dapeaceman 

Insert a Dual Pitch Shifter in each of the channels. This would use half of your FX (3 & 4?)

Set both SEMIs to +12 and Mix to 100%

Ok found a fix!
Windows 10  (replace "folder" for your own user name for that folder)

C:\Users\"folder"\AppData\Roaming\X-AIR-Edit

I deleted all files here
"
X-AIREdit.init
X-AIREdit.keys
"
restarted App

all fixed

Hi @alienbee , welcome to the community.

As you have discovered, it is possible for a bad setting in X-AIREdit.init to cause XAir Edit to crash - even when used offline. It is interesting that your Linux system caught the same problem. That suggests it must have been triggered by something in the XR12 settings. Perhaps the snapshot you loaded has got corrupted and should be deleted or replaced.

Thanks for sharing your solution.