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  • SCastle
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-06-05

    I'm setting up a small church system with X32 and FOH amps at rear of sanctuary and S16 on stage with outputs to a powered sub and an amp with 2 monitor wedges -  pretty basic.

    The mics and instrument inputs are all working through the S16 but only 2 of the output channels (7&8) on the S16 have signal. I currently have the sub on output 8 and it works and one monitor amp channel works on 9 but channel 7 has no signal. 

    I thought I followed the set up tutorials and the house sound works fine but I can't seem to get the monitors and sub to operate correctly apart from the FOH main fader. I want the output to the sub to be post fader but I need the monitor channels (which I have tried unsuccessfuly to configure on mix bus 1 & 2) to be set up as prefader.

    I've uploaded one of my recent scenes in a zip file here. (It wouldn't let me upload the .scn file). Any help would be appreciated.

     

     

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    • SCastle
      RexBeckett

      @SCastle 


      Hello Steve, welcome to the community.


       


      There does not seem to be a file attached to your post. As you discovered, the forum will not accept .scn files unless they are zipped. Try again and we should be able to help you with the routing.

      • June 5, 2019
    • SCastle
      SCastle

      The zip file should have been attached. Try it now. 

      Scene.zip
      • June 6, 2019
    • SCastle
      RexBeckett


      @SCastle wrote:


      The zip file should have been attached. Try it now. 





      @SCastle 


      Hi Steve, the zip file is empty. How did you create it? On Windows, you can right-click on the .scn file and select Send to... Compressed (zipped) folder.

      • June 6, 2019
    • SCastle
      SCastle

      I just recreated the .scn file and zipped it agiain. Hopefully it works this time.

      scene.zip
      • June 6, 2019
    • SCastle
      RexBeckett


      @SCastle wrote:


      I just recreated the .scn file and zipped it agiain. Hopefully it works this time.





      @SCastle 


      Yes the file is good. If your S16 is set to mode 1, you should get mixbuses 1-6 on S16 outputs 1-6, Main L on output 7 and Main R on output 8. The master faders for mixbuses 1-6 are all right down but on Routing -> Outputs 1-16 you are using pre-fader taps for buses 1-3 so they should be at full level.


       


      XLR Outputs 1-4 on the X32 are being routed from AES50-A 1-4 - which would be direct inputs from S16 inputs 1-4. Is that intentional? The same four inputs are also being mapped to Aux inputs 1-4 using Aux In Remap. Is that also by design?


       


      Which buses do you want sent to each of the S16 and X32 outputs?

      • June 6, 2019
  • shushstudio
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-06-05

    Hi there, I have a major problem. The first time I used my Deepmind 12 connected via USB midi (I had previously used it not connected to check out the sounds) there was some kind of malfunction as it played itself, and even when I pulled out the USB midi lead, it continued to play.) I thought it might have been a problem with the synth itself so, I tried it again and eventually decided to update the firmware but to no avail. This was cured by trashing Logic X preferences so bad midi instructions must have been being sent. This fixed the autonomous strange play problem. I then noticed that the patches had changed in there sound and were not correct. So I restored the synth using the PROG WRITE key commands on startup restoring all steps 1 -5. Again it made no difference. I downloaded SysEx librarian and ran and installed the factory combined presets using SysEx librarian. However, the original factory sounds have not been re-instated instead I still have the messed up sounds after the midi problem incident.   

    Can anyone help me get the synth back to the original factory patches, it is working fine now apart from this, but sadly is of little use to me as the sound patches are now unusable. Thanks Dx

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    • shushstudio
      Scatterplot

      Your manual shows you how to reset your DM12 to factory defaults, this will reinstate all patches.

      • June 6, 2019
    • shushstudio
      RonaldFigura

      Make sure when you are restoring that the USB cable is disconnected from your computer.

      • July 5, 2019
  • automaticform
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-06-05

    I opened up a technical ticket 3 days ago and NO REPLY!!!!

    It's been under 30 days and this machine no longer works!!!!

    Only the 440hz sound plays and I have tried everything. It is DEAD.

    The model D is patched to Behringer's own recommended settings to get sound out of it!!!
    When I increase the volume all the way, I hear a tiny click with each MIDI press but that is it!

    I have already tried running MIDI to it from 3 different sources: Ableton, a Keystep, and a Novation Circuit.

    Double-checked over and over that everything is going to the same channel.

    Tried other channels by flipping the dip switches in the back.

    Tried 3 different MIDI cables and quarter inch cables!!!!!!!!!!

    Tried listening through the headphone jack and through the high and low on the back. No SOUND is produced!

    The only thing I can think is that I upgraded from 1.0 to 1.1.1. But it didn't immediately die. I played at least once after the updated firmware.

    24 hours later DEAD.

    Please a REPLY would be nice after 3 days as I can find no phone number to speak to a human.

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  • neilspeers
    Contributor - Level 3
    2019-06-04

    I'm going to be mixing a 'rough and ready' situation in a couple of days and wondered if there's any way to switch one aux out so it mirrors any of the other aux outs - so I could have a speaker at the mixing desk, and could mirror say the lead singers or one of the guitarists, etc so I could hear what they are hearing without going on stage.

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    • neilspeers
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Neil @neilspeers,


      What console are you using?

      • June 4, 2019
    • neilspeers
      neilspeers

      The X32

      • June 4, 2019
    • neilspeers
      DaveMorrison

      @neilspeers 


      1. Select the bus (or channel) you want to monitor.


      2. Press Solo.


      3. Use headphones or connect your monitor(s) to the X32 monitor outs.


      Am I misunderstanding the question?

      • June 4, 2019
    • neilspeers
      neilspeers

      That makes a lot of sense - I almost never use headphones at gigs so not first in mind.

      I should have maybe said "X32 Rack" - which will be onstage and I won't be - but I can do a wireless in-ear send to myself from the headphone out, so that can be solved.


      Now I'm trying to figure out why I only get one channel's signal to the aux out when I hit solo (it took a bit of playing before I got sound to the aux again at all, foreign mixer to me). So I have a mix of the vocals and other instruments to each of the subs which are then sent to the auxes. I have five auxes - one for each of the performers. I'm getting the mix showing up on the meter's for all the auxes - but when I solo, I only get a single channel through the headphones.

      • June 4, 2019
    • neilspeers
      neilspeers

      Okay, I can get multiple channels on the Bus, but not on the Aux that the bus goes to, although the meters say there should be sound. I'm finding this odd.

      • June 4, 2019
  • shiyah
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-06-04
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  • RichardABacon
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-06-04

    Hi There. I've a question about timing of Delays when Syncing to an external Source.

    I'm often in the position of having to configure an output delay to match an input delay on a Video Hard Disk recorder. The X32 is receiving Sync via MADI and the MADI outputs are feeding inputs of several recorders (via a MADI router).

    My question is: Are the delay timings off the X32 outputs derived from the incoming clock, or are they running independent of that? i.e if I set an output delay to say, 40 ms (1 frame of 25fps video) , and I've already got an identical input delay set on an undelayed recorder, should I expect them to be in sync?

    Thanks

     

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    • RichardABacon
      GaryHiggins

      @RichardABacon I believe the delay is derived from the input as there is no option to delay an output ch as such on the mixer. If you use a bus/aux/fx/usb ch as an input ch source (config page) you can delay it in that way.


      The outputs would reflect the delayed inputs and be in sync with the mixer itself and should translate to other devices to compensate on that end-I'm guessing however!.

      • June 12, 2019
  • Kferg
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-06-03

    I'm new to live sound. Can someone help me on how to set up these speakers without blowing them. Any help will be appreciated 

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    • Kferg
      RexBeckett

      @Kferg 


      Hi Kevin, welcome to the community.


       


      We may be able to help if you tell us about the rest of your sound system and how you want to use it. Are you feeding the B15Xs from a mixer? 


       


      The DSP in the B15X includes LF and HF limiters to protect the drivers from overload. This doesn't mean that it isn't necessary to adjust signal levels in the sound system but it makes it less likely that excessive levels would cause damage.


       


      One important point is that the B15Xs (and any other active speakers or amplifiers) should be powered-on last - after every other part of the system is on and stable.  They should also be powered-off first when shutting down.

      • June 3, 2019
    • Kferg
      Kferg

      I'm using a yamaha 12 channel mixer and sometimes I use bluetooth to run my music through them. On the speaker there is a bar graph type thing that shows input. Just not sure where it should be exactly. And the speakers came with know information at all. 

      • June 3, 2019
    • Kferg
      RexBeckett


      @Kferg wrote:


      I'm using a yamaha 12 channel mixer and sometimes I use bluetooth to run my music through them. On the speaker there is a bar graph type thing that shows input. Just not sure where it should be exactly. And the speakers came with know information at all. 





      @Kferg 


      You can download the user guide here. It gives some instructions for setting the built-in mixer's input and output levels. The most important level display is the output (right) one - it should not reach the top (clipping).

      • June 3, 2019
  • AlanRyan
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-06-03
    X18 Mixers

    X18 Question. I"m currently using snapshots to mute FoH and certain channels and aux mixes leaving some of the in ear live. My problem is I'm doing it from the ipad via wifi and it is just not reliable enough - sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Apart from that I love the unit. Is there a way of connecting a foot pedal via midi that will switch between two snapshots? Thanks

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    • AlanRyan
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Alan @AlanRyan,


      Welcome to the forum. Yes indeed you can use a midi footpedal to change snapshots. See this wiki document. 

      • June 3, 2019
    • AlanRyan
      katscornerrec

      You may already have your solution in place by now, but I have two thoughts on this for what it's worth:


       


      1) You say that calling snapshots via wifi is not reliable. Are you using the built-in wi-fi in the X18? I've found that using an external 5GHz wi-fi connected to the X18 via ethernet is far more reliable from a wi-fi connected device.


       


      2) If your problem is only in having the ability to mute multiple objects *including* the LR fader (which is conspicuously not selectable in either mute group or DCA assignments), a feature from a 3rd party app I've been using may offer another option. It employs what it calls "iDCA" faders which allow assignment to control any faders -- including the LR fader and even the built-in DCA faders. It is available for both, Android and iOS. Of course, changing one's mindset and workflow to use a different app may be just as involved as your suggested plan to use a MIDI footswitch, so it may not be a viable option. As they say, your mileage may vary.


       


      (In the interest of open communication: the app to which I refer is *not* a free app, but I am not affiliated in any way with the developer of that app, nor do I receive any compensation for anything associated with it; that said, I *am* a beta tester for the app.)

      • June 26, 2019
    • AlanRyan
      RexBeckett


      @katscornerrec wrote:


      You may already have your solution in place by now, but I have two thoughts on this for what it's worth:


       


      1) You say that calling snapshots via wifi is not reliable. Are you using the built-in wi-fi in the X18? I've found that using an external 5GHz wi-fi connected to the X18 via ethernet is far more reliable from a wi-fi connected device.


       


      2) If your problem is only in having the ability to mute multiple objects *including* the LR fader (which is conspicuously not selectable in either mute group or DCA assignments), a feature from a 3rd party app I've been using may offer another option. It employs what it calls "iDCA" faders which allow assignment to control any faders -- including the LR fader and even the built-in DCA faders. It is available for both, Android and iOS. Of course, changing one's mindset and workflow to use a different app may be just as involved as your suggested plan to use a MIDI footswitch, so it may not be a viable option. As they say, your mileage may vary.


       


      (In the interest of open communication: the app to which I refer is *not* a free app, but I am not affiliated in any way with the developer of that app, nor do I receive any compensation for anything associated with it; that said, I *am* a beta tester for the app.)





      @katscornerrec 


      Hi Ken, welcome to the forum.


       


      Don't be afraid to mention Mixing Station by name. There are a lot of very happy users of this family of apps in the community.

      • June 26, 2019
  • ploudband23
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-06-03

    our band has purchased an XR 18 mixer. We want to buy a dedicated Chromebook (or similar PC) but I can't find a minimum OS requirement for this mixer. All we will be using the PC for is the XR 18 and songs to be played during breaks...help!

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    • ploudband23
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi James @ploudband23,


      Welcome to the forum. If it is a newer Chromebook, it will be able to run standard linux apps. Fortunately there is a version of X-Air Edit for linux which works very well with minimum OS requirements. There is even a version that works on a Raspberry Pi. One thing to make sure that the Chromebook does not require internet access, since you will probably be using a dedicated external dual band router (with no internet) for live events.


       

      • June 3, 2019
    • ploudband23
      RobertGerritsen

      I have used a chomebook in combination with a x18 at a gig. I had a Lenovo c330. touch screen is a big advantage.

      • June 3, 2019
  • jasonvsc
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-06-03

    Hi All, 

    I am a worship leader and I use Ableton Live for live multitrack sets every week. I was using a windows based pc for a while but I have switched to a mac (old pc kicked the bucket). I now have a problem that I can not fix. I am getting a bleed between channels. I can hear the click and the cues faintly in the house no matter what I do. Here is what I know.

    Its not my computer (Tried my buddies brand new mac that he uses for the same setup at another church, his did the same thing)

    It's not the cables (switched between several and settled on brand new shielded xlrs)

    It's not at the board (Even if I completely disconnect the click track send (xlr from the interface) the channel is still bleeding the same way. So no physical click/cue output and still getting click/que faintly) 

    It's not necessarily the interface (I hooked up a scarlett that did the same thing, just much more faintly)

    I have ran tracks for years and this is the first time that I have had this particular problem and it has me stumped. I could probably make the scarlett interface work because it has a downloadable "Scarlett MixControl" that allows you to specify settings for the interfaces interaction with mac. From what I have seen, there is nothing like this for the UMC404HD because it comes "plug and play" ready for a mac with default CoreAudio drivers. 

    Please let me know if you know of any software that I am missing that would allow me to control the interface a little better on the computer side or of anything that I might be missing. This past Sunday was an acoustic set at the last minute and it looking this same for next sunday if I don't get this resolved ASAP!

    Thanks and I look forward to the replies!!! 

     

     

     

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