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  • Ktmckay
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-08-05

    I purchased the X Air X18. I am having issues with the effects not enabling to the channels. Anyone have a solution or trouble shooting process? 

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    • Ktmckay
      RexBeckett

      @Ktmckay 


      Hi Kevin, welcome to the forum.


       


      The fastest way for us to help is for you to attach your saved scene file to your post (see Choose File button below). Also tell us which channels you want processed by which FX slots. 

      • August 5, 2019
    • Ktmckay
      Ktmckay

      Here is a screen shot. I am getting signal but not hearing the effect. 

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      • August 5, 2019
  • DanielBecker
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-05

    The question came up on a Facebook page for the XR series as to where the insert point is for the Mains on the XR. The block diagram at the Wike shows the flow to be Compressor, Insert, Eq. This seems odd to have the Compressor pre EQ in the flow.

    However, in the XAir Edit software, the layout under the Channel Tab for the Mains shows the EQ before the Compressor. The tabs across the top puts the EQ before the Compressor (reading left to right). This would make sense.

    So, which is correct? The block diagram with the compressor before the EQ or the software suggesting the Eq is before the Compressor?

    Or am I reading the block diagram incorrectly? Though the channels show the EQ before the Comp in the block diagram.

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    • DanielBecker
      RexBeckett

      @DanielBecker 


      Hi Daniel, the block diagram here shows that, in the channels, the flow is: Gate, Insert, EQ, Compressor. In the Main and Aux buses, the flow is different: Compressor, Insert, EQ. This seems to be correct in practice.

      • August 5, 2019
    • DanielBecker
      DanielBecker

      So, in the mains, it is normal to compress before EQ'ing?  Curious as to why that would be the proper way.  Just asking as I learn more.


      The insert issue was regarding the Combinator.  I would think one would not use the main compressor if you are inserting the Combinator?

      • August 5, 2019
    • DanielBecker
      RexBeckett


      @DanielBecker wrote:


      So, in the mains, it is normal to compress before EQ'ing?  Curious as to why that would be the proper way.  Just asking as I learn more.


      The insert issue was regarding the Combinator.  I would think one would not use the main compressor if you are inserting the Combinator?





      @DanielBecker 


      I wouldn't say it was normal to compress the buses before EQ'ing but that is how the XAir mixers are arranged. In the X32 mixers, the insert point can be switched pre or post EQ.


       


      If inserting the Combinator FX processor into the Main mix, the built-in compressor would not normally be used.

      • August 5, 2019
    • DanielBecker
      DanielBecker

      Yes, I have the X32 core and have been playing with it's software.  I noticed you can switch the order of EQ/Comp/Insert.


      Thank you for the help.  It is odd for the XR to have the Main Comp before the EQ but....


      Maybe someone else has an oppinion.  Hopefully from Behringer them self to explain why the Comp is before the EQ on the XR.

      • August 5, 2019
    • DanielBecker
      RexBeckett

      @DanielBecker 


       


      It is odd for the XR to have the Main Comp before the EQ but....


      I haven't found it to be a problem in practice. EQ on Aux and Main buses is generally used to tailor the overall response to suit the environment and speaker system. In this case, it makes more sense to EQ the signal after the dynamics have been applied. There may be other explanations but they will not change how it has been implemented.


       


      Why is it a problem for you?

      • August 5, 2019
  • Greenstar
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-08-05

    Hello.
    I am French and I use Google to translate.
    I have just been offered a DX2000USB and I am delighted.
    I use it in studio production / broadcast webradio + personal listening.
    I would need the internal diagram "block diagram" table to know the internal routing of it.
    Does anyone have this pattern?
    Thank you.
    JC

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  • RossMiller
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-04

    I would like to add physical faders to my X18.  Am I correct in assuming the X-Touch is compatable with the X18.  

    Which interface is used? (midi, usb, ethernet)   

    Does the scribble strip work as expected with the X18

    Will just the extender work? there seems to be a bunch of unnecessary stuff on the X-touch for my purposes.

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    • RossMiller
      DaveMorrison

      Hi @RossMiller 


      The X-Touch works great and is a good choice. Ethernet is the best choice when connecting at any distance. Scribble strips work. The X-touch extender does not work. If you want 16 faders, get two X-Touches.

      • August 4, 2019
    • RossMiller
      DennisKingsbury

      Try OSIMIDI Stage with the X-touch compact if that's which one you have.


      There's a free trial.  Latest version allows to make a custom layer.


      https://www.osimidi.com/stage


      Otherwise you can program the compact for the midi commands. 


      You can't program to control the busses with faders tho if I remember right.  (my memory might be failing...)


       

      • August 11, 2019
  • RossMiller
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-04

    Hi X32 world  

    I have read some of the posts regarding the 17-24 outs on the S16s  but nothing seems to answer the question.  How do you assign signal to the 17-24 outs. (even the SD8 has a switch for 17-24 so it must do something)

    I'm not trying to do anything fancy or complicated. I do corporate work and outputs are always at a premium.   Even if I could asign a bunch of duplicate record sends would be useful. Conceptually I would like to park an SD8 on the video table to ge the in/outs from them with a smaller box than an S16 in a rack

    Just give me an Idea how to get a signal there 

     

    I have an X32full and 2 X S16s.  

     

     

     

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    • RossMiller
      GaryHiggins

      @RossMillerThey are populated using the aes50 (a or b depending on your port connects) out 17-24 slot. If you look at X32-Edit it's fairly easy to see all the choices. Default uses "out 1-8" again but you have lots of options including ultranet assignments, card assignments, aux out/in, local inputs etc.


       


      EDIT: A fairly common use is the ultranet assignment where you then choose what to send at what tap point using the ultranet out staging menu.

      • August 4, 2019
    • RossMiller
      RossMiller

      Hi Gary  I see the grid but I am not getting it yet.   Maybe walk me through a set up. 


      My example would be send matrix 1 and 2 (my record sends) to out 9-10 & 17-18 & 19-20.


      Thanks in advance


       

      • August 4, 2019
    • RossMiller
      garyh

      For instance change aes50a out 17-24 from out 1-8 to p16 1-8. In the Ultranet output routing menu, set p16 ch 1 to matrix 1, set ch 2 to matrix 2, set ch 3 also to matrix 1 and set ch 4 to matrix 2. Then your first 4 outs of the SD16 set for out 17-24 would carry matrix 1, matrix 2, matrix 1 and matrix 2 in order 1-4

      • August 4, 2019
    • RossMiller
      RossMiller

      Yeah  I went to the shop and did just that.  Using the Ultranet as a patch bay. Kinda cool


      I will be spending the rest of the day seeing what else I can send where.


      Thanks for your help


       

      • August 4, 2019
    • RossMiller
      Paul_Vannatto


      @RossMiller wrote:


      Hi X32 world  


      I have read some of the posts regarding the 17-24 outs on the S16s  but nothing seems to answer the question.  How do you assign signal to the 17-24 outs. (even the SD8 has a switch for 17-24 so it must do something)





      Chang the S16 mode to mode 3 (Out+16) - see instructions

      • August 4, 2019
  • wolfereeno
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-08-01

    Win10 machine, Xr18 with latest firmware

    My PC's connected to the Xr18 via both USB and Ethernet.   My computer is connected to my network via WIFI.

    I control the XR18 with the Windows version of the editor.  I don't use the ios app very much.

    Every hour or so, sometimes less, I lose the connection to the mixer from the windows app.

    I've played around with the ethernet settings such as turning off DHCP but haven't found the magical solution.

    Help appreciated - Thx!!

     

     

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    • wolfereeno
      DaveMorrison

      Hi @wolfereeno 


      Check Win10's Control Panel : Device Manager. Look for your wireless adapter under the  Network Adapter heading. Look for the Power Management tab in it's properties. Disable the Allow the Computer to turn off this device to save power.

      • August 1, 2019
    • wolfereeno
      KenMitchell

      Hi Bill ( @wolfereeno ),


       


      Welcome to the community.  Is your laptop connected to your mixer with an Ethernet cable?  It sounds like you may be bounced back and forth between networks.  Do you have your laptop setup as a static IP or DHCP on the interface going to the mixer?  Set it to static, make sure you don't define a gateway, and make sure the ip/netmask doesn't overlap with your WiFi network.  Finally, you have to go into network settings and change your network priority to WiFi so you can reach your home network.  Here's an article that explains how to do it: http://ecross.mvps.org/howto/change-network-connection-priority-in-windows-10.htm


       


      By default Windows will prioritize the wired connection which will cut you off from your WiFi network.  If you have a gateway on both interfaces things can get really weird, particularly if you have the interfaces overlapping. 


       


      Hope this helps,


      Ken


       


       


       

      • August 2, 2019
    • wolfereeno
      wolfereeno

      Thanks guys!


      I'm connected to the mixer via ethernet.  And to the internet via wifi.


      I've tried setting the IP for the Xr18 but that doesn't help.  Or I'm not doing it correctly.  Not sure if it overlaps. I think it's out of the range my router assigns, but both start with 169.  The gateway is blank.  And the prefered DNS is the ip of the XR18.  I messed with those settings a lot trying to get this to work.


      I just tried the wifi power settings the first post recommended but that didn't help.  I always had the windows power plan settings set to not turn off the network cards but the adapters themselves seemed to have their own setting that overrode that. So I set both adapters to not power off via device manager.


      I just tried reprioritizing the adapters and put the wifi first.  We'll see!


       


       

      • August 2, 2019
    • wolfereeno
      DaveMorrison

      @wolfereeno 


      169.254.xx.xx is a self assigned IP address.


      You really should have:


      192.168.xxx.xxx OR 172.16-31.xx.xx OR 10.xx.xx.xx


      Set your router to static IP address to something like 192.168.0.1


      Turning on the DHCP server in the router is the easiest solution, then the other devices can get their addresses from the router. 


       

      • August 2, 2019
    • wolfereeno
      wolfereeno

      Thats the IP of the XR18.  Didn't it assign that itself?  Not sure how I'd change it.


      Thx!

      • August 2, 2019
  • AlbertMitchell
    Contributor - Level 2
    2019-07-31

    Anyone know if there's a phone number to call or email address for warranty support at Behringer? 
    I submitted a warranty claim several days ago. I immediately got an email with a ticket number, but there's been no follow up. I tried to find some way to email them, but the only support option on the website is the same form I already filled out to initiate a warranty claim.

    The email I got with the ticket number said I'd hear from them within 24 hours. It came from a "noreply" email address, so I can't just reply to that.

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    • AlbertMitchell
      KenMitchell

      Hi @AlbertMitchell , 


       


      Unfortunately, there is no way to contact them via phone.  This is becoming an all too common theme on the forums.  Just to be sure, please check your spam folder for any reply. 


       


      Hope this helps, 


      Ken


       

      • July 31, 2019
    • AlbertMitchell
      AlbertMitchell

      Thanks Ken. Yeah I keep a pretty close watch on my spam folder. I'll continue to wait for a response I guess.

      • July 31, 2019
    • AlbertMitchell
      AlbertMitchell

      Once I heard from Behringer they took care of my issue quickly. They issued a RMA number and provided instructions for the return. The mixer was delivered to Behringer in Las Vegas on the 14th and I had my repaired mixer back in my hands on the 20th. There was a weekend in there, so that's like 4 business days total which is pretty remarkable.


      The only thing I'd say they could have done better would have been a little communication. An email letting me know they'd received the item and another letting me know it was fixed and being shipped back would have been perfect.


      But still. I'm pretty pleased with the service I received, once they got in touch.

      • August 20, 2019
  • AndreLapointe
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-07-31

    Hello, helpful and time generous people !

    With the XR18 X-Air app for iPad, is it possible to locate the shows and scenes files or folders stored in my iPad in order to quickly move data around to reorder scenes ? I am planning to save about 300 scenes (songs) and would greatly appreciate being able to easily organise them to match our new daily setlists, copying or moving selected scenes in new shows.

    Thanks ahead for your most precious insights !

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    • AndreLapointe
      KenMitchell

      Hi Andre ( @AndreLapointe ),


       


      Unfortunately, unlike Android OS, Apple does not allow direct access to the filesystem in IOS. 


       


      "Shows" are nothing more than containers to hold scenes so you can think of them like folders on a computer.  Scenes are the actual settings of the mixer.  


       


      For this very reason, I've avoided using shows/scenes on the iPad and instead use X-Air Edit to save scene files in folders on a computer.   It's also pretty brutal to transfer scenes from the iPad to a computer since you basically have to load each scene from the iPad and save it as a scene file on the computer.  After renaming them and re-organizing the way you want them, you have to reverse the process which again, is pretty brutal.


       


      As an alternative, take a look at Mixing Station Pro on Android. Yes, there's also an iPad version but it has the same constraint since it's Apple imposed.  MSP on Android allows you to save scenes in folders, rename, re-organize, etc.  Note that the .scene files created by MSP are not compatible with X-Air Edit.  


       


      Hope this is helpful. 


      Ken


       

      • August 1, 2019
    • AndreLapointe
      AndreLapointe

      @KenMitchell 


       


      It most certainly is helpful ! Thanks, Ken, for such a detailed and informative answer !


       


      I think I might just switch from Mac to Windows and use X-Air edit that seems to let you manipulate scenes with ease and would hence be of great help for setlists building.


       


      I am currently using Auria Pro for tracks recording and virtual soundchecks on iPad. So I am now looking for a good DAW with MIDI capability to install on a Windows laptop. Ideally, this DAW would also be installed on a Windows tablet and the two units would be linked together wirelessly to control the DAW during virtual soundchecks while the tablet would also control X-Air. Would this be feasible under Windows and if so would you have any compatible MIDI DAW suggestions ?


       


       


       

      • August 1, 2019
  • events2
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-07-31
    I run a small band and have invested in an x32 compact desk along with the sd8 snake ( 2 of them) 
    I have watched nearly everyone of the Drew Brasher videos including the set up for ‘Jeff’? I have searched every resource possible and i have to say , these are by far the most practical, clear and intelligible. 
    I set up the board for a rehearsal and was hoping to record it to the x-live card installed but this wouldn’t play back ( i even tried putting the files produced into pro tools) - some channels showed recorded signals others showed nothing but for the life of ne I cant see what’s wrong! I have not yet managed to incorporate the sd8s into the set up ( lost in routing!) 
    We have the flooring inputs:
     
    Lead vox 
    3 x backing vox
    Electronic drums (L&R)
    Keys (L&R)
    Elec gtr (hughes and kettner – utilising the DI) 
    Acoustic gtr 1 (through a DI)
    Bass gtr (through a DI)
    Acoustic gtr 2 (through a DI)
    Roland SPX –sd pad to drive backing tracks  - 2 sep channels  - 1 click track to drummer  monitor and 1 feed to remaining monitors and to main L&R
     
    We output to a L & R, powered pa system ( LD Systems Maui  11G2  x2) 
    We play relatively small venues but its great to be able to use the digital board for ease of set up and to record / playback rehearsals. We will be playing a big gig next summer where will supply a stereo out feed from our board to the house PA .
     
     
    We have 1 powered monitor for drums, 1 powered monitor for keys, 1 powered monitor for lead vox and 1 in ears monitor for guitarist 
    Its a 5 piece band – vocals and acoustic guitar, backing vocals and elec gtr / acoustic gtr, bass, keys and drums 
    I did manage to record the session on to the 2 track usb recorder but really want to grab each independent channel onto the sd-card
     
     
    What I'm hoping is that  you tcould help produce a ’set up’ for us that will allow us to utilise the system properly. ( haven’t even looked at any fx or channel strip controls yet !) 
    Im sure you can tell that im a relative newly albeit reasonably au fait with the practicalities of set up and managed to get sound out of the speakers with the correct individual mixes to each monitor but I'm not convinced i did it properly and I think i probably messed up the sub-groups (not really sure i needed those?)
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  • PaPaDuck
    Contributor - Level 1
    2019-07-30
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    • PaPaDuck
      RichardYClark

      When you say 'headset' do you mean a pair of headphones to listen to the sound with (for which there isn't a suitable headphone jack on a PMP2000)? Or do you mean a pair of headphones with a boom microphone attached and you want to plug the microphone into the PMP?

      • July 30, 2019
    • PaPaDuck
      RichardYClark

      I'm afraid that there is no easy way to connect headphones to a PMP2000 directly since there is no headphone jack provided. You could possibly buy a headphone amp with RCA inputs to connect to the RCA Line Out sockets.

      • August 1, 2019
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