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  • dgstudio
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-03-20

    Hello,

    I use the Midas MR18 primarily as a recording interface through USB. This works great. However, I have a few external outboard compressor I'd like to use when mixing. What would be the easiest way to set this up? And do the AUX outputs on the MR18 posess enough quality to not degrade the signal too much?

    Best regards!

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    • dgstudio
      RexBeckett There is really only one way to use external effects with the M/X-Air mixers: Send the dry signals through Aux outputs and bring the returns back through spare channels. Depending on the effect, it may be necessary to remove the original (dry) channel from the Main mix by clicking on the LR button on the channel's Main tab.

      The Aux outputs on the MR18 are to the same spec as the Main outputs so good quality. The signals will be subject to the additional D/A and A/D conversions in the mixer as well as any in the external effects, though. This could potentially degrade the signals and will add a small amount of latency (approx 0.8ms for the mixer input to output).
      • Mar 20
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    tone_crafter
    Contributor - Level 1
    2021-03-19

    We are currently using firmware v1.4 on our 4x DP48s. Can someone point me to a full revision history from v1.4 to the latest v2.0. I can only find revision history for v2.0. Is there a full user manual to go with this firmware? All I can find is the quickstart guide and that is for v1.3 of firmware.

    Has anyone update to this firmware version and can vouch for it's stability/reliability?

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    • tone_crafter
      GaryHiggins DP48 firmware historical

      Version 1.2 - (16 December 2019)
      The DP48 Firmware Update 1.2 features performance enhancements to the personal monitoring mixer’s operating system. Firmware 1.2 adds:
      * Remote configuration of DP48 Groups and channel assignments, including Level and Pan settings, directly from Midas M32* series mixing console GUI 

      * Automatic adjustable ducking of ambience microphones during the performance, depending on signals coming in over AES50 

      * 12 new external preset storage slots on SD card 

      * Stand-alone mode can now be used with AES50 stage-boxes such as DL32 or DL16 

      * M32* console time is now received over AES50. This allows timestamped SD recording files 

      * Mix A/B Limiter activity is now displayed on the meter overview screen 

      * My Group controls the playback level, while a track is selected for playback on the SD Recorder 

      * Upstream of local AUX-Input and built in Microphones to AES50-Stream for sharing click or backing tracks and communication to the Engineer 

      * Close boot screen by pressing MIX A or MIX B * Requires mixer fw 4.01 or higher

      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.3 ( May 2020)

      New Features 1.3

      • 2 separate stereo reverb processors for separation between Mix A and B

      • Stereo mode for assigning and editing two channels of a Group at the same time (long press)

      • Reverb sends are now post-fader separately for Mix A/B

      • New idle screen with Group names and pre-fader metering overview

      • Quick Group renaming by selecting from a list of common names (long press on idle screen)

      • MIX A/MIX B ‘Meter Screen’ same as idle screen but showing A/B post-fader levels

      • Talkback function using the internal microphones in conjunction with HUB4

      • Talkback signal will be exchanged between all DP48 mixers and M32 consoles via CH48

      • Automatic configuration if Talkback is active:

      o Add CH48 to assignment of Group 12

      o Rename Group 12 to ‘Talkback’

      o Activate ‘MIC +20dB’ in Setup

      • Configure Talkback in Setup, press and hold MIC button to speak

      Improvements

      • FX return default value set to -10 dB

      • ID and enumeration bugs in remote operation fixed

      • Master units update local preset copy when a X32 broadcast message is received

      • Remote function: group names are sent to remote unit

      • Group PAN had no effect when the group was assigned to a MIX as MY-Group

      • Work on local preset when the remote ID is master

      • Better AES50 error management and faster recovery

      • DP48 on HUB4 master port for remote control

      • Missing X32 messages improved
      * 

      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.4 (2020-06-17)
      Welcome
      New Features 1.4
      * Regular group solo function replaces automatic group solo in edit mode (to enable use long press on GROUP button) 

      * Automatic 10 dB assignment-solo dim Improvements 

      * Daisy-Chain upstream bug fixed (introduced with FW1.3) 

      * Stereo-Assignment when resetting device fixed (introduced with FW1.3) 


      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.5 (2020-07-15)
      Welcome

      New Features 1.5
      • Sending control and name commands through stage boxes Improvements
      • SD-Card recording bug fixed (introduced with FW1.4)

      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.6 (2020-10-12)
      Welcome
      New Features 1.6
      * Volume control changed to smoother linear operation. 

      * Full compatibility to new DP48 Console-Remote including stereo link control. 
(introduced with X32/M32 Firmware 4.03) 
Improvements 

      * Bugfix for multiple DP48 in a chain all indicated as Master-Devices. 

      * Pan law gain changed from 6dB to 3dB for improved stereo imaging. 

      * The purple frame for slave devices is now only visual when active remote control is taking place. 

      * Bugfix for post fader reverb send in conjunction with MY GROUP control.


      MIDAS DP48 Firmware Update Version 1.7 (Oct 2020)

      Midas DP48 Firmware UpdateVersion 1.7  

      This update introduces a wealth of new features that help simplifying setup, improve overview and provide new means of communication for all live performance and studio production applications, where musicians are in control of their own monitor mix.Midas is constantly adding new features and making enhancements to this extremely stable ecosystem of digital mixers, I/O boxes and personal monitoring mixers. This means you always experience the best possible performance. Visit midasconsoles.com and check for updates of your products regularly. Download the latest firmware for DP48 and HUB4, and make sure the latest versions will be installed to both.


      New Features 1.7

      • Mirror Mix A on Mix B output in singlemode.

      Improvements
      • Fix for saving master parameters if powering off while remote controlling.
      • Fix for stereo link assignment and indication on booth channels in a pair, while working remotely.
      • Fix for passing on wrong AES50 information of connected devices in a chain.
      • Fix for pre fader reverb send when using MY GROUP in singlemode.
      • Refresh assign page after being remote controlled by master.



      Midas DP48 Firmware Update
      Version 1.8 - (23 November 2020)
      Welcome
      Congratulations on purchasing this innovative personal monitoring system. This update introduces a quickfix for an crossdependent issue with the post-fader reverb send when using MYGROUP in single mode.
      Midas is constantly adding new features and making enhancements to this extremely stable ecosystem of digital mixers, I/O boxes and personal monitoring mixers. This means you always experience the best possible performance. Download and install the latest firmware for DP48 and HUB4 to make use of the latest Features and Improvements.
      Improvements
      • Fix for crossover MIX A-B/ MIX B-A pre-fader FX send issue in single mode


      Midas DP48 Firmware Update
      Version 1.9 - (4 December 2020)
      Welcome
      Congratulations on purchasing this innovative personal monitoring system. This update is fixing and improving the loading of presets.
      Midas is constantly adding new features and making enhancements to this extremely stable ecosystem of digital mixers, I/O boxes and personal monitoring mixers. This means you always experience the best possible performance. Download and install the latest firmware for DP48 and HUB4 to make use of the latest features and improvements.
      Bugfixes
      • Fix for preset loading issues
      Improvements
      • Improved preset loading with active Remote-


      Midas DP48 Firmware Update
      Version 2.0 - (5 February 2021)
      Welcome
      Congratulations on purchasing this innovative personal monitoring system. This update is fixing issues related to the PAN and EQ when using dual MY GROUP in single mode.
      Midas is constantly adding new features and making enhancements to this extremely stable ecosystem of digital mixers, I/O boxes and personal monitoring mixers. This means you always experience the best possible performance. Download and install the latest firmware for DP48 and HUB4 to make use of the latest features and improvements.
      Bugfixes
      • Fix for PAN and EQ issues when using dual MY GROUP in single mode
      • Mar 19
      • DP48 firmware
        GaryHiggins BTW I believe 2.0 is stable, I have not used it much to be honest but do not recall many (or any) complaints regarding bugs.
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    Beppone
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-03-18

    Hi everyone, I'm using a Midas f32 mixer and I'm trying to record on a Macbook pro with M1 chip. I already tried to download midas drivers but no one works for my macbook. My macbook does not receive any information from the mixer, I think midas hasn't released current drivers yet, so If you have some solutions I would be grateful, if you haven't, I urge Midas to release new drivers!

    Thank you 

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    • Beppone
      Nigel67 Hi Beppone, I am sorry, but Midas ceased any support for the Venice F drivers a number of years ago now. There will not be any new drivers released for the Macbook Big Sur with the M1 chip.
      • Mar 18
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    PhilJutras
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-03-18

    Hey there everyone, I'm new to the forum, I have that MIDAS H-3000 which is sadly stuck in the LOCK mode.

    As soon as I press on the system button, the segment display tells me I'm in LOCK mode.
    The UP and DOWN button doesn't do anything, the confirm button either. If I press CANCEL, the LOCK disappear.

    I'll mention that the LOCK LED is lit but it's really dimmed.

    I measure the Power on the output of the 12V REG1, I have 12V.

    Something weird is that I have 11.2V on the XL Auto Central Control Panel board.

    Anyone ever experienced this problem? Would it be more related to power or maybe a logical gate?

    Thanks!

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    • PhilJutras
      DavidKnighton Hello Phil,
      If anyone knows anything it would be Jim Sawyer at Sawyer Audio. He is quite the authority on legacy Midas consoles and may be able to help fix whatever issues you're having.
      • Mar 18
      • H3000 Issue, stuck in LOCK
        PhilJutras Thank your for the hint!
        • Mar 18
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    JosephK
    Contributor - Level 1
    2021-03-17

    Hello,

     

    I saw a few discussions describing the same issue I have, but I have not found a solution yet.

    I have Windows 10 and Mac (upon my knowledge, DL32 only allows Windows OS to update the firmware).

    I tried to connect DL32 with win 10 laptop, powered on the DL32, and laptop notices the cable connection because it makes the noise/notification sound when there's a connection.

    So, I ran the program, but as soon as it launched it quitted automatically. (When I first launched it, it warned me that the file may not have been downloaded correctly and asks me what to do - I said it is downloaded correctly)

    Does anyone know the solution for this using Windows 10 OS?

    I saw someone said it may have been updated, but is there a way to check the firmware?

     

    Thank you.

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    WISSEMMRABET
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-03-16

    hello i have a problem with midas m32 with the blocks of 9 to 16 the butons of the mute and solo and select they are not working so what is the probleme can be an thank you

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    • WISSEMMRABET
      KyleJohnson Hello, Kyle here from Music Tribe. Are the Faders and Scribble strips for 9-16 working normally? Have you performed a Console Initialization yet? If not, I recommend you do so. First back up your current settings as a scene file. Then open the Setup>Global menu and choose CONSOLE under the RESET heading. If you continue to have issues, please contact us directly by submitting a support ticket through the support portal at the top of the page.
      • Mar 16
    • WISSEMMRABET
      KevinMaxwell Are 25-32 acting the same way?
      • Mar 17
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    jknutz
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-03-16

    All my jacks on my new m32r live are dead. Can't any input on the aux in. No output on the aux out. And a constant hum on the monitor and phones out. Updated - downgraded and updated firmware again to no Succes. Triple checked my routing. 
    what am I missing or is it just a faulty board? 

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    • jknutz
      Dale_M Hi there can you advise if this is a new console? Has this worked previously? I would recommend creating a Technical ticket from the Support tab above so we can assist you.
      • Mar 16
    • jknutz
      KevinMaxwell You may be missing something. We might be able to tell you what is wrong if we can take a look at your scene. You can upload it here but only in the post that you start. You can edit the first post in this thread. Copy the scene from your mixer to a thumb drive and then put the thumb drive in your computer and then go to edit your post and you will see a place to upload a file on here. It only works for the person that starts a thread and you have to do it in the post that you started a thread in.

      Let us know if you need any more help in how to do this.
      • Mar 16
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    DouginAlaska
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-03-11

    I have a HoW installed M32R connected to a DL16 stagebox thru AES50-A.  How do I configure AES50-B on the DL16 to send to the daisy-chained DP48s used as IEMs on stage? Currently, the DP48s are connected directrly to the M32R on AES50-B on a CAT5 mess along the floor edge. If I could run the DP48s off the AES50-B from the DL16, I would be able to avoid running cable thru the ventilation system, crawl spaces, walls, and drop ceiling to get to the DL16 in the rack at FOH. Will the Hub4 do this or is there a more economical solution?

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    • DouginAlaska
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Doug, you can daisy-chain the DL16 and the DP48, understanding that the first 8 outputs from the M32 will be assigned for DL16 outputs. These will also pass through (downstream) to the DP48. It also means that you will only have AES50 9-48 available for the DP48.

      The other issue is the upstream signals (see page 6 in the DL16 User Manual). These are shifted one bank over when passing through the stagebox. This will be important if you plan on using the talkback functionality of the DP48 for the musicians to communicate with FOH, because the talkback on the DP48 is on AES50 channel 48. Therefore when passing through the DL16 to the M32, the talkback will disappear. This is why it is recommended to either have the DP48's fed by the other AES50, or get a Hub4 which has a true pass through.
      • Mar 11
      • Routing DP48s thru DL16
        GaryHiggins Very helpful advice! Makes perfect sense when I think more about it. I have not used them in a stage box daisy chain but I am going to note this for future reference.
        • Mar 12
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    VlahopolGuitars
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-03-11

    I just got my MR18 and I am looking forward to work with it as it is a first step to the bigger brother of his that I want to buy soon - I hope.. 

    I am now using a 10 in 10 out soundcard in my recording studio and I thought it would be great to get the MR18 to use it in the studio as a soundcard in order to get the 18 IN /OUT and benefit from it.

    NOW, like I said i am looking at using the MR18 mainly in the studio but also with my bands where I have 32 channels analog mixer... now i have some questions that needs answeres, please:

    1. is there any OFFICIAL tutorial on what to install first and how on mt Windows PC? - asll I see on youtube are a bunch of guys showing off their X-Air Behringer mixers, but NO official video of MIDAS. Maybe I am looking in the wrong palce. Please guide me.

    2. I see there are two softwares a driver and a firmware update. is there any specific order to this ?
    M-AIR-Edit_PC_1.6
    M-AIR-Edit_PC_V1.5
    MIDAS MR18 Driver Setup v4.59.0
    MR18_Firmware_1.17

    Please, correct me if I am wrong... I assume it should be like this... 
    1 firmware, 2 driver, 3 Software M-Air 1.6 ??  Correct?  
    Id there any official videos on these, please? 

    3. IS the MR18 able to SAVE my studio / USB settings as a studio soundcard and than also save my LIVE settings so I don't have to redo it all the time? when I go from STUDIO to LIVE performance and back? 

    4. IF i have 2 x Midas MR18 is there anyway to LINK them to work together as ONE ? One of my sound engineers has one and my keyboard player has one so.... can we link these machyines to see eachother VIA laptop in LIVE GIGS ?








     

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    • VlahopolGuitars
      Paul_Vannatto Why do the videos have to be official? I just did a search on YouTube for Midas MR18 and there are lots of videos both by Music Tribe, resellers and users - all excellent material. You can also search for XR18, since the 2 consoles are identical in functionality.

      The order of software, drivers and firmware is not important. Just use the latest available.

      Yes you can save snapshots of your settings and recall them as desired

      No you can't link MR18 together. They are not expandable. For that you would need to get a M32 or X32.
      • Mar 11
      • Midas MR18 - please advise
        VlahopolGuitars Thank you so much for your answer.
        well, the videos have to come from the seller as "a manual" ??? I never used a MR18 and I want to know what and how should I do it in order NOT to break it, than loose warranty because of MISSUSING. I have seen that happen.
        And yes the seller it is contractually obliged to give me manuals / tutorials in order to have a mutual beneficial relationship.
        I got this small rack mixer because I like the Midas. Now I need to know / learn how it works. I don't understand why i have to you tube to 20 different users to find what I need when in fact I should be able to go to the source / manufacturer and find everything there. I am not trying to argue with you and thank you again for your kind response.
        Thanks again!
        • Mar 12
    • VlahopolGuitars
      RexBeckett Hi VlahopolGuitars, there is no functional difference between an XR18 and MR18 so a video for one will also serve for the other. The control app, firmware and drivers are different for each make but work the same way - despite some small differences in appearance and branding.

      I would install the driver first. The M-Air-Edit apps are not actually installed by Windows so you can have several versions on, say, your desktop. You may need to use app V1.5 initially to install firmware V1.17. I think that app V1.6 complains if the firmware is older than V1.17.

      The MR18 can save all non-global settings in internal Snapshots. The same settings can also be saved as Scenes in files on the controlling PC. Snapshots load very quickly but it is good to save some scenes as backups. Scenes can be loaded on any MR18 or XR18 if required. Global settings (not saved in snapshots or scenes) are things like network parameters and sample-rate.

      There really isn't any way to link multiple MR18s except by using analogue inputs and outputs.
      • Mar 11
      • Midas MR18 - please advise
        VlahopolGuitars Thank you so much,
        Mucha appreciated.
        • Mar 12
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    andyp13
    Contributor - Level 3
    2021-03-09

    Hi all, I use a X32 Rack, though I intend to keep it I’m thinking of purchasing an M32C - to save on Rack Space (I have 2 S16’s). Does anyone know if the X-Live card fits the Midas 32C.

    please email me your reply as I will never find this post ever again on here, or it will run so slow it just gives up. Email address below

    Thanks

    [email protected]

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    • andyp13
      Paul_Vannatto Yes it will
      • Mar 9
    • andyp13
      Dale_M Any of the cards will fit the M32C, The M32/R/Live/C are all the same platform regardless of the form they are presented in. You must however ensure you use the correct driver software for that card.
      • Mar 9
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