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    ClintPopetz
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-07-03
    m32 / x32 / dl32 split of outputs | Digital Mixers
    Here's what I want to accomplish: I have an X32 doing FOH, and a DL32 on stage in a box with an M32C.  I want the M32c to do monitor mixing with the musicians connecting to it via wifi.  I want to split the outputs so that the first 8 are monitor mix outs for IEM and the last two (15/16) are L/R controlled by the x32.
     
    I can hook the X32 to the DL32 on AES50-A and the M32c on AES50-B.  The input routing looks reasonable, both boards can share the DL32 inputs.   It's not clear to me how to split the outs.  Easiest would be to have the M32c get 1-8 and the X32 get 9-16.  But the "Routing" section of the M32c in m32 edit on the mac doesn't seem to have a way to _not_ assign AES50-A 9-16 to _something_.  How do I split the outputs?
     
    If the outputs aren't splittable, can I have the m32c send its monitor bus mixes to the x32 over a separate AES50 channel and have the X32 map them to the outputs on the dl32?
     
    So in this case it would be: 
      X32 AES50-A <-> DL32 AES50-A (gets inputs for main mix, sends back both L/R and monitor mixes)
      X32 AES50-B <-> M32c AES50-A (m32 sends monitor buses to x32 so that x32 sends them to dl32)
      M32 AES50-B <-> DL32 AES50-B (gets inputs for monitor mixes)
     
    This is for a show tomorrow, hopefully someone can help me out :)
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    • ClintPopetz
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Clint, this question comes up frequently. The DL32 is designed to output what come in its AES50 A port only. The DL32 inputs can be shared between the A and B port if it senses there are consoles connected to both. To do what you want, you will have to connect your X32, M32C and DL32 as follows ([A] and [B] are ports)
      X32 FOH [B] <-> [A] M32C [B] <-> [A] DL32

      To split the outputs from FOH and M32C, goto the M32C Routing, AES50 B screen and assign the following:
      Outputs 1-8 -> Out 1-8
      Outputs 9-16 -> AES50 A9-16
      Then on the M32C Routing, Out 1-16 screen, assign the desired IEM outputs to the first 8 outputs
      Finally on the X32 FOH Routing Out 1-16 screen, assign Main L and R to outputs 15 and 16 respectively, and on the Routing, AES50 B screen, assign the following:
      Outputs 9-16 -> Out 9-16

      If you ever need more outputs from the M32C Monitor console (eg outputs 1-14) you can do that by using the User Out screen and assign those User Out (1-8 and 9-16) to the AES50 B1-8 and 9-16
      • Jul 3
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    Johnnyh64
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-07-02
    Using a Midas DP48 with Ultranet on a Behringer XR18? | Wired In-Ear Monitoring Components

    Want to purchase a Midas DP48 monitor system because our band uses the M32r.  However, personally I also own a Behringer XR18 that uses Ultranet instead of AES.  I see in the marketing info that it says that the DP48 works with all Midas and Behringer digital mixers, being that the XR18 is a Behringer digital mixer, I wonder if this is true.  Does anybody have a definite answer to this question as I'd love to use the DP48 with my Behringer XR18 as well.  Thank you!

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    • Johnnyh64
      Paul_Vannatto No the DP48 does not work with the X-Air or M-Air consoles, since they do not have the AES50 (which the DP48 requires)
      • Jul 2
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    mattstanley
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-07-01
    Midas Pro2c Weak Mix Signal | Digital Mixers

    I've had a Pro2c for about a year and a half and periodically I'll run into an issue when one of my mixes is very weak. It's not isolated to just one of the busses, but mostly occurs on Mix 1-3. No matter how much signal I have on each channel I feed, the metering barely registers on the mix. I mostly use these mixes to feed Aviom channels for drums. The one I'm having trouble with now is used to sum the cymbals together. I have plenty of signal down the channels and hear them clearly in the house. They are all turned on in Mix 2 and set to PreFade. Worked fine a few days ago, now the mix is barely registering anything.

    This has happened before but seemed to clear up right as I'd get annoyed enough to seek help. Do I have some bum mix busses?

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    • mattstanley
      Nigel67 Hi Matt, do you use VCA's / MCA's as it sounds like something they could cause. Do you always use the same show file? Is it always the same showfile, one day it works fine, the next the level is low, or is the problem more intermittent, i.e one moment everything works fine and then the next a mix send level is to low? I think that we will need a show file and more information from you, possibly even log files. Please could you submit a Technical Ticket for this and we will be able to help more easily via e-mail. To submit a ticket, please go to support tab at the top of the page. A new window will open. Scroll down and click on the Technical Support tab and submit a ticket from there. Many thanks
      • Jul 4
    • mattstanley
      mattstanley This was definitely the issue. For some reason, the Drum DCA/MCA was turned down in the send to that Aux. Wow, that's a sneaky little spot for issues. Many thanks.
      • Jul 8
    • mattstanley
      Nigel67

      Good to hear its sorted. Yep, those DCA/MCA can cause the odd headache now and again :)
      • Jul 12
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    RajatBanerjee
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-06-29
    Midas m32 flip fadar not working | Digital Mixers

    Midas m32 flip fadar not working

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    • RajatBanerjee
      Dale_M Have you performed a factory reset or software update -can you advise if the console is now working? if not it may be best to go to the support tab and raise a Technical ticket with us.
      • Jun 29
      • Midas m32 flip fadar not working
        RajatBanerjee Firmware updated but fader flip not working
        • Jun 30
      • Midas m32 flip fadar not working
        KevinMaxwell What is the purpose of the picture of the M32 in this thread? If it is to show that the fader flip isn’t working it is only showing that the mixer isn’t set in a mode where you would see any faders flipped. Channel 1 is selected and DCA masters are selected. Fader flip doesn’t flip anything to the DCAs so you will never see anything flipped in that mode. It only flips the Mix Bus.
        • Jul 5
    • RajatBanerjee
      GaryHiggins Try finding and loading version 3.07, it has fader bank speed updates, then update to newer version. It has fixed similar situations, can’t hurt it any more if it’s hardware related. Might work. Worth a try. I have it if you can’t locate it.
      • Jun 30
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    balky
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-06-27
    M32 / X32 DCA and SOLO | Digital Mixers

    Here what I noticed.

    If  you have say several channel in DCA group and press MUTE on DCA, the mute buttons on controlled channels blink.

    You expect the same behavior when SOLO on DCA is pressed... NOPE.  It only lights up on DCA.  

    Also, when you MUTE DCA GROUP and solo it, you cannot hear anything UNLESS you disable MUTE SYSTEM  "DCA Groups" in CONFIGURTATION.  and the flaw of doing so is that now you cannot see if the channels are muted.  MUTE is lit only on DCA channel.

    Quite weird behavior.  NOt sure if it has been this way always, but thois is how it is now.

     

     

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    • balky
      GaryHiggins Mute System settings

      I believe the following to be true…

       Hard Mute:
       
      If the Hard Mute box is checked: If you mute an input ch when the hard mute box is checked, that ch can only be unmuted by the same main ch section mute button. If you mute an input ch and that ch is also part of a mute group, unmuting by the mute group button it belongs to WILL NOT override the actual ch mute itself. The muted input ch remains muted everywhere it's used, mixer wide.
       
      If the hard mute box is unchecked:
      If you mute an input ch, and that ch is also part of a mute group, you can then mute and unmute that ch with the mute group button even if you muted the actual input ch itself as a separate process, an individually muted input ch will follow the mute group mute/unmute action.
       
      DCA Mute:
       
      If the DCA mute box is checked:
      It mutes every ch that's part of the DCA group-both at the input ch and at the bus, it's the 'hard mute' of dca world. All ch's that are part of that DCA will be muted everywhere mixer wide if the DCA mute button is engaged.
       
      With the DCA mute box unchecked:
      If an input ch belongs to a DCA group, and the DCA is muted, ONLY the sends to mains are muted NOT the bus sends. This is the setting to use to allow monitors to remain active while FOH ch's remain muted. It's the 'soft mute' of DCA world.
      • Jun 27
    • balky
      balky Gary, thanks. HARD mute works with mute groups only. I am not using any. And DCA mute works great. My question is 95% about DCA vs SOLO. Pressing solo on any channel when it is MUTE, lets you hear the channel. When you press SOLO on dca group, you cannot hear anything if the same dca group is muted. But if you uncheck DCA MUTE in configuration, then solo works as expected even if pressed on muted DCA. But the trade off is - pressing mute on DCA does not blink all mute channels.
      • Jun 27
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    MarkNorgren
    Contributor - Level 3
    2021-06-24
    M32R in Direct Sunlight | Digital Mixers

    Question about heat.  We had two gigs on Saturday.  The first gig was on a stage that had a roof. However, by 2:30pm the sun was around enough on the roof, that the sun was shinning direct on the board.  I had my iPhone on the table that shut down because of the extreme heat.  We got done playing at 5:00pm and the board was extremely hot.  Packed up and went to the next gig, at 8:00pm the board wa still hot!  All went fine and the board performed like a champ.  I can try and keep it out of the direct sunlight, but sometimes, just not possible.  Has anyone encountered problems with the sun?  I think next time I will put the hard cover over the top, just to keep the direct sun off the board.  Other ideas or thoughts about the sun and the board?

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    • MarkNorgren
      Dale_M Thanks for your post, we normally check for these type of issues during the research and development stage and often the middle east temperatures which are some of the most extreme are a consideration. We have historically had no reports of any M32's failing due to excess sunlight so hopefully this gives you some reassurance.
      • Jun 26
    • MarkNorgren
      MarkNorgren I appreciate that Dale. I am really enjoying my M32R and it has been very reliable!
      • Jun 27
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    LarryWBowers
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2021-06-23
    Midas 32R | Mobile Apps

    My church purchased a Midas 32R board about 4 years ago. About 2 years ago we had a problem and sent it back for repairs. The person that installed it had a spare to load us while it was being repaired. We now have another issue, channels 1 - 8 are dead and we need to send it back for repairs. The company that loaned us one before does not have another one. We would like to purchased an additional Midas 32R to have as a back up while this one is repaired and to have it just in case this happens again. Do you have any Midas 32R mixers in stock?

    Thanks, Larry

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    charlesstrick
    Contributor - Level 3
    2021-06-21
    gain pad | Digital Mixers

    Is there a way to pad a input channel on the m32 ?

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    • charlesstrick
      Paul_Vannatto Which inputs are you using, the XLR or Aux In and what source do you have that requires additional padding? The preamps in the XLR jacks have a -12 to +60 db gain range and the Aux In inputs have a -18 to 18 db digital trim which should suffice for most input signals. If you have something like a speaker signal, you could use a DI (such as the Behringer DI100) with its two 20db pads.
      • Jun 21
      • gain pad
        charlesstrick inputs are on my dl16 xlr my problem is always a keys player that keeps turning up his gain on his keyboard to boost his combo amp to the point of clipping my preamp with gain all the way down. I try to explain what he is doing to the input, that helps for about one song. won't use a floor wedge never have that problem with female key players
        • Jun 21
    • charlesstrick
      Paul_Vannatto The Behringer DI100 has two 20db pads, which in theory can drop speaker output level to mic level. If the keyboard output is stereo, get 2 of them. The other solution is to tell the band to get a replacement keyboardist (yup, I've done that).
      • Jun 21
    • charlesstrick
      charlesstrick thanks Paul , Next time i will suggest the hot looking female replacement option,
      • Jun 21
      • gain pad
        Paul_Vannatto Maybe that's the problem - she's too hot - output signal and otherwise...
        • Jun 21
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    kennylaw
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2021-06-21
    Midas M32 setup Daw control | Digital Mixers

    I had a bad card and had it replaced... I can't get it to record right now... Vocals are super low and I swithed xlr cables tried everything... Please help me reset to Daw control and routing... Running  Midas M32 and Studio One pro 5

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    • kennylaw
      DavidKnighton Hello kennylaw,
      Best to submit a SUPPORT ticket for this one, as there is sure to be lots of messaging back and forth. Click the SUPPORT link at the top of the page and submit a TECH SUPPORT inquiry.
      • Jun 21
    • kennylaw
      kennylaw

      Thank you very much...
      • Jun 21
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    TroyKrueger
    Contributor - Level 2
    2021-06-20
    Scene parser - fader level | Digital Mixers

    I want to take a fader out of the main bus ( mono center and main stereo) without having to express a fader level. Is this possible? 
    currently the following works but only while expressing a fader level:

    /ch/17/mix ON  -4.3 ON +0 ON -3.0

    the -4.3 is the fader level, it works when the fader level is in the string, it does not Mt work without the fader level expressed.

    I want to have snippets that will take certain faders out of the main stereo bus. And other snippets that put them back in the main stereo bus, but not having to 'declare' a fader level.

    I appreciate any feedback. 

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    • TroyKrueger
      Paul_Vannatto Hi Troy, standard snippets and scenes generated by the console or Edit uses the multi-value OSC command lines. These can be replaced by their single-value commands, which are fully documented by Patrick in his X32 OSC Protocol document.

      For that particular line, it can be replaced by the following OSC single-value commands (see page 26)
      /ch/17/mix/on ON
      /ch/17/mix/fader -4.3
      /ch/17/mix/st ON
      /ch/17/mix/pan +0
      /ch/17/mix/mono ON
      /ch/17/mix/mlevel -3.0

      For your particular snippet, simply use the /ch/17/mix/st (for the main stereo) and the /ch/17/mix/mono (for the mono center) commands
      • Jun 20
      • Scene parser - fader level
        TroyKrueger My Scene Parser User Manual only goes to page 25. ?? Don't see a 26
        • Jun 22
    • TroyKrueger
      Paul_Vannatto Patrick's document is included in the Documents folder of Scene Parser or can be found on Patrick's website here:
      https://sites.google.com/site/patrickmaillot/x32
      • Jun 20
    • TroyKrueger
      Paul_Vannatto Hey Troy, I had to go to the notification to see your responses and questions, since they don't show up in the standard view in this "new fangled" forum.

      I meant page 26 in Patrick's document. The link is in the second full paragraph on his website. Here is the link to the actual document:
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Snbwx3m6us6L1qeP1_pD6s8hbJpIpD0a/view
      • Jun 22
    • TroyKrueger
      Paul_Vannatto I just realised that I had not included Patrick's document in the Document folder that comes with Scene Parser. I will do that in the next release of Scene Parser.
      • Jun 22
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