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  • 2019-06-01

    I am attempting to use an M32r at FOH and an X32 as a stage box. I get everything to connect.  All the green boxes are showing.  However, all I can seem to achieve is for the VU meters on the M32r to show what is on the X32 and nothing more.  If I change the name of a track on the X32 it doesnt effect the M32r.  If i adjust the fader on the X32 it doesnt effect the M32r.  Or vice versa.  Any insight into this and what I may be missing would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. 

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    • Kozmo Sound
      Rex Beckett

      @kozmosound 


      Hi Kozmo, welcome to the community.


      It sounds like a problem with configuration or routing. Usually you would route all the local inputs on the X32 (stagebox) to AES50-A and connect this to the FOH AES50-A. Then set the FOH Inputs routing to the same AES50-A blocks to get the inputs from the X32.


      The X32 pre-amp gains affect the signal going to the FOH but the X32 channel controls would normally only be used for local monitor mixes.


       


      If you explain how you would like your system to work and where you want to connect the inputs and outputs, we can help you with the configuration. 

      • May 31, 2019
    • Kozmo Sound
      Kozmo Sound

      Sik thank you for the quick response.  I would like:

      - M32r at FOH

      - X32 on stage.

      - All my inputs go into X32

      - All my outputs come from X32

      - I stand at M32 and twiddle knobs and it comes out the X32.

      - Also would like a stereo pair of outputs at least for a feed for this stream that is happening. 

      Both are firmware 3.11.  Currently connected M32r out of AES50A and into AES50A of X32.  I have a QSC chillin that I am using to listen to.  Stereo input into 1/2 of the X32 and out of where I want it to go (output 1/2 via matrix).  Essentially, my M32r is a glorified VU meter.  I can see all the levels that are on the X32 on my M32r.  But once I start moving faders, labeling channel strips, etc. neither effects the other.

      Hope this makes sense.  I am on stand by for your response while I smoke more doobs and watch more youtube tutorials. 

      • May 31, 2019
    • Kozmo Sound
      Rex Beckett


      @kozmosound wrote:


      Sik thank you for the quick response.  I would like:

      - M32r at FOH

      - X32 on stage.

      - All my inputs go into X32

      - All my outputs come from X32

      - I stand at M32 and twiddle knobs and it comes out the X32.

      - Also would like a stereo pair of outputs at least for a feed for this stream that is happening. 

      Both are firmware 3.11.  Currently connected M32r out of AES50A and into AES50A of X32.  I have a QSC chillin that I am using to listen to.  Stereo input into 1/2 of the X32 and out of where I want it to go (output 1/2 via matrix).  Essentially, my M32r is a glorified VU meter.  I can see all the levels that are on the X32 on my M32r.  But once I start moving faders, labeling channel strips, etc. neither effects the other.

      Hope this makes sense.  I am on stand by for your response while I smoke more doobs and watch more youtube tutorials. 





      @kozmosound 


      On the X32, set the routing like this:


      X32 I.PNGX32 O.PNG


      On the M32R, set the routing like this:


      M32 I.PNGM32 O.PNG


      You also need to define your outputs 1-16. That would be something like this:


      M32 O 1-16.PNG


      You need to adjust this to suit your mix and possibly provide your local stereo outputs to XLR or Aux.


       


      It is probably easiest if you use the M32R Aux channels for the local inputs. These could still be through the local XLR inputs if required.


       


      If you want to be able to control the X32 pre-amps from the M32, open the X32 Setup -> Preamps page and check HA Remote AES50 Port A.


       


      Channel strip labels are local to each mixer so will not be reflected on the other device.

      • May 31, 2019
    • Kozmo Sound
      Kozmo Sound

      Awesome, I got it to work. It seems that I was missing the AES50a routed to AES50b on the Midas.  I dont understand why this AES50b is routed at all since Im not using that port on either device.  Also which unit should be "synchornized" to AES50A technically?  I swapped and have tried with one on AES50a sync and one on internal and vice versa and it seems to lead to the same result.  

      • May 31, 2019
    • Kozmo Sound
      Rex Beckett


      @kozmosound wrote:


      Awesome, I got it to work. It seems that I was missing the AES50a routed to AES50b on the Midas.  I dont understand why this AES50b is routed at all since Im not using that port on either device.  Also which unit should be "synchornized" to AES50A technically?  I swapped and have tried with one on AES50a sync and one on internal and vice versa and it seems to lead to the same result.  





      @kozmosound 


      I'm happy to hear it is working but it cannot be due to the AES50-B routing. That is redundant in your configuration.


       


      I would run the X32 with Internal synchronization and set to M32R to AES50 A. 


       

      • May 31, 2019
  • 2019-05-30

    I think I'm missing something fundamental.  I am planning installation of an M32 at our church and reading the (abreviated) Midas documentation.

    What's the difference between faders 1-16 on layer 4 of the left fader bank (16 bus master channels) and faders 1-8 on layers 3 and 4 of the right fader bank (bus 1-8 or bus 9-16)?

    Aren't these the same things?

    What am I missing?

    Thx.  Dwayne A 

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  • 2019-05-30

    Hello folks

    I am experiencing an odd behavior with a unique setup with my X32 Core and M32R. I am doing a redundant 32 Channel Record with 2 laptops (1 laptop connected to the Card Out of the X32 Core and 1 connected to the Card Out of the M32R) as follows…

    DL32 ---> M32R AES50-A (This gets my sources from the stage into the M32R for mixing the live show)

    M32R AES50-B ---> X32 Core AES50-A (This gets the audio from the M32R(picking off the DL32 Head Amps) into the X32 Core)

    On the AES50-B Tab of the Routing Page on the M32R, I have set Outputs 1-32 to AES50-A 1-32 effectively passing through the 32 Head Amps of the DL32 through the M32R onto the X32 Core. It all works as expected and I can record multitrack on both laptops just fine but the problem is, when I recall a scene on the X32 Core, the Routing of the AES50-B Outputs on the M32R change to Out 9-16 on every single block and I have to go back to the M32R and manually change them back to AES50-A 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 25-32 in order to get everything working again.

    I don’t understand why recalling a scene on the X32 Core (which is only connected via AES50) would change the output routing of the M32R.

    I’ve tried Parameter safeing and a few other things but nothing seems to stop this behavior.

    Does anyone here have any idea why this is happening and what I can do to prevent it?

    Thanks in advance for your helpful replies

    Kevin

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    • Kevin Lacy
      Gary Higgins

      Hi Kevin, @KevinLacey wondering how you have the sync set up? Is the Core sync internal and the M32r sync aes50B? Or is the M32R sync internal? You might try switching them. It makes some sense to me that the Core may change the M32 if the aes50a out of the Core is not set to what you need on the M32-since it's a 2 way street.  A thought would be to try sending aes50a 1-48 from the Core aes50a out 1-48 essentially sending back out what it received, or maybe set aes50a out 1-48 to all local since the Core doesn't have any local. Or maybe send aes50b 1-48 from the Core since it recieves nothing from there. Just some suggestions.  Do you have the M32 set for safed routing i/o?

      • June 8, 2019
  • 2019-05-29

    Sorry for the simple question, BUT, my band is looking at an M32C and a DL32 stage box for pres. This will give us a true 32 channel board, my question is for the main outs. Unlike analog boards, and the Xair weve been using, there are no main outs on the box, or the M32C, i assume that i can assign main out duties to a pair of the 16 sends on the stage box via the virtual patchbay in edit..... Is this a correct assumption?
    Thanks in advance

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  • 2019-05-29

    Is the Heritage-D a real thing?

     

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  • 2019-05-24

    I haven't seen any new development from Midas in quite a while. Is Midas still doing development on new consoles? Especially looking at an enhanced M32 (with 64 channels and more effects processing) or a new PRO line (64 channels and more effects processing). The current line is so far behind the competion now. I like the M32 but I'm running out of channels and effects processing along with with 92khz processing/recording like current competiion. I saw a "new" M32 Live but that isn't really anything new that makes it compatitive with competitors.

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  • 2019-05-19

    I am seeing unusual behaviour on my M32 running firmware 3.09.

     

    When I load a scene, make modifications, and try to save it as a new scene, it brings along the name and notes from the originally loaded scene.  This was not the case for the past 8 months and I am unsure how to reset the behaviour.  It requires that I now backspace and change the name and notes.  Not very efficient and prone to error by having multiple scenes with the same name.

     

    I plan to upgrade to firmware 3.11 this week but nothing about scenes is mentioned in the release notes and the behavior is not what is used to be.

     

    Thoughts?

     

    Skye

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    • Skye Matthews
      Paul Vannatto

      Hi Skye @SonicWave,


       


      Welcome to the forum. Are you by chance seeing this issue when saving on the console itself? I haven't done it that way for some time, since I use M32-Edit most of the time. The console scene naming interface has got to be "worse case scenario" IMO.


       

      • May 19, 2019
    • Skye Matthews
      Skye Matthews

      Yes, on the console itself.  I can normally make a save quickly when the console behaves.


       


      Is there a place I can open a ticket for this as it is clearly a bug?  I never encountered it until about a month ago.


       


      Skye

      • May 19, 2019
    • Skye Matthews
      Skye Matthews

      Is this the correct place to discuss the M32?  It seems awfully quiet...

      • May 21, 2019
    • Skye Matthews
      Sam Slough

      Good afternoon,


       


      What seems to be happening with the scenes? If you could describe in some detail plz.


       


      Sam

      • May 22, 2019
    • Skye Matthews
      Sam Slough

      I had the same problem. Well, it’s more of a inconvenience. Any scene, before 3.09, would bring all the notes, stuff with it. Now, in 3.09, which had a couple of bug fixes, it also was the new design for X-Live. 3.11 would be a real smart direction to go. Since all 4 of my console are already on 3.11, I’m not sure if the, lets call them “unusual scenes”, will act the same, I've never tested it. 


       


      Sam


       

      • May 22, 2019
  • 2019-05-18

    I had purchased some effects from dbbaudio.com last year and loaded them via the M32-Edit (Library > Effects > Import) and they show on that laptop.  I have a backup laptop that I always bring with me in the event that one fails.  When I try to load the same effects on that laptop, they don't populate the Pos (Position), Name or Type field.  Not sure why this is happening.  Any ideas??

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    •  Gio Stefani
      Paul Vannatto

      Hi Gio @GioStefani,


       


      Good to hear from you again. Check the .efx files (they are ASCII files), particularly the first line. It should have something like the following:


      #2.0# 37 "BBM Female Vox" 1 9 1


      If it doesn't, that would explain why it won't populate the library list.


       

      • May 18, 2019
    •  Gio Stefani
      Ronni Santmyer

      mine have that info needed..I've done it in the past and used it for months.


      But now after I got a new DL32 because mine just died out of no where they sent me a new one I decided to also update to 4.1 but during a show realized mixing station wasn't showing me FX presets I had stored.


      I can't remember how I got them into the M32c last time. This is easier on my x32rack. But I need this figured out before this Sat gig. I can't see a way in M32 Edit to get them over there I tried and thumb drive doesn't work the same as x32Rack.. ugh

      • December 22, 2019
  • 2017-08-12
    Hi everybody.

    Current
    Using electronic drum kit. Only L & R output so we pan hard L/R with low sounds one sire high sounds other.

    Goal
    But drum processor does have midi out. Is there a way to separate each drum to discreet channel through midi at DL16 to M32.

    If yes, how do I make that happen? Asking for three churches.

    Cheers.
    King
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    •  King Burton
      Kevin Maxwell

      King Burton;129333 wrote:

      Hi everybody.



      Current

      Using electronic drum kit. Only L & R output so we pan hard L/R with low sounds one sire high sounds other.



      Goal

      But drum processor does have midi out. Is there a way to separate each drum to discreet channel through midi at DL16 to M32.



      If yes, how do I make that happen? Asking for three churches.



      Cheers.

      King




      I think you will find that the Midi outs on the Drums are control outputs. If you wanted to hit a drum and have it bring up or down a fader on the console then that might sort of work. But the Midi out is not a way to get the different drum sounds out of the drums to the mixer.
      • August 12, 2017
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