Midas, can you solve the pro2 offline editor compatibility issue with catalina O.S? Please!
I need this app very mutch, to work at home.
I am a Portuguese soud engeneer.
Thank you.
Hi @vita
While the Pro2 & Pro1 Offline Editors are currently not compatible with macOS Catalina, the ProX OLE is. I would suggest using it. Because of our console showfile compatibilities, you can import/export show files to/from a Pro2 using the ProX Offline Editor -- just know anything past the Pro2's input count and FX slots won't populate in the desk if exceeded in the editor.
Tested. The proX offline editor doesn't work either!
Hi @vita
Updating my post:
It seems the G3.4.6rel-9 OLE for ProX isn't compatible with macOS Catalina. Until we have an update that is compatible with macOS Catalina, users should stay or roll back to macOS Mojave.
It has almost been a year since Catalina was released. There should be compatable version by now!!! Please update soon.
Any chance of an indication when this might be made available for Catalina? Obviously not a pressing matter while the world is broken, but a rough idea/indictaion that this is being worked on would be very helpful.
cheers
Hi there.
Yesterday my Ipad Air updated the software, after a hard reset. Everything works fine, except for the fact that i can`t find Mixtender2 in the AppStore. As if it isn`t there.
Any thoughts about it?
Hello again.
I solved it:
My church has an M32 at FOH, M32c for IEM's and an x32 for Online mix. All have very old firmware, 2.xx. Can I upgrade to 4.02 in one step or do I need to upgrade to 3.12 first. And will either upgrade erase my routing?
Thanks for your help.
Tom
@dbmantom wrote:
Can I upgrade to 4.02 in one step or do I need to upgrade to 3.12 first. And will either upgrade erase my routing?
Welcome to the forum. Yes you can upgrade from 2.xx to 4.02 directly. But it is important to backup your cues, scenes and snippets as well as the channel, effects and routing presets (in the Library). Usually the cues, scenes and snippets will remain. But has been reported of erasing some of the presets. Also go to the Setup section and note the settings in the first 4 screens (tabs). The new firmware will reset these to factory default, and these are not saved in show, scene or snippets.
Routing is included in your scenes. If you are using routing safes, make sure you know what your master scene is that sets the routing.
I spend all day testing the mixer Dynamic settings to emulate transient responses of particular microphones, it works to a point as a transient emulator, and can be usefull.
EQ lines of particular microphones are very easy to transpose.
I used impulses and pink noise to get an accurate mic image, next I tested the best settings I could achieve with the Gate, Comp, Low Cut and EQ, and the result is very interesting and similar to the original mic, some better, others worse.
I could achieve better results by using a transient designer on the FX section, but I don't want to use an FX slot for this purpose, to have the freedom to mix with all effects available, and without limits for channel use to mic modeling load.
Pros:
It is easy to store and very quick and easy to load Mic Model settings, even from a USB pen.
It provides interesting EQ and Dynamic settings from popular mics
Low Cut can be adjusted to work as the real mic
It is possible to load on diferent channels the same profile of an expensive mic
By reversing the gain settings of EQ bands it is possible to flatten the original mic source, for example by pluging a SM57, then loading a SM57 profile, next reversing the EQ curve it is possible (to a point) to get a flat signal from the source.
It can be usefull for decisions of what mic to purchase by experimenting with different instruments, vocals etc.
Problems:
It uses channel dynamics and EQ section; but it can be changed anyway, or use FX slots for additional EQ or Dynamics.
Proximity effect can be adjusted as the real mic behaviour but it takes an EQ band, reducing mic EQ resolution, of course proximity effect will never work real time as a mic.
Polar patterns can be added but will never emulate room, ambient reflections, unless reverb is added.
It can duplicate frequencies of some mics, by pluging in an D112, and using the D112 profile the mic characteristics will double.
To work at best, the sound source must be captured as neutral as possible.
I am working of some rare RCA mics, when I finish them I will put the profiles available for download.
Hello José, welcome to the community.
That's an interesting project. I shall look forward to seeing your finished profiles. I am reminded, though, of a saying from the world of signal processing: There are no adjustments that can make a donkey perform like a race-horse.
I've finished 3 models for testing.
Two classic mics: RCA 44, AKG C12; and the common Shure SM57.
I'm very happy with the results, after extensive testing, they sounded not exactly the same, but very close and definitly have the same frequency spectrum.
The transient response is very difficult to emulate, and it is very far from the original, but it is as close as I could get, and it certainly defines more character and realism to the profiles.
How to use:
Download the Zip, extract it to a USB pen.
You should have a Microphone folder with 3 profiles inside.
Plug the USB pen to your X32/M32
Press Library, Utility, USB Drive Import, select (Microphones) Folder, Press All, Import; profiles are now loaded.
(CAUTION It will erase your own Library profiles)
How it works:
Press Library, you should see the 3 profiles on the channel tab.
Press SELect on the channel you want to load the mic profile, and press Load Preset. You can load to various channels very fast by pressing Sel and then Load.
VERY IMPORTANT - Adjust you signal level input to -18dB for optimal performance.
Low Cut - Simulates the original mic Low Cut switch, if it is not present it wont do anything.
Gate & Comp simulate the mic transient response, you can turn it off or adjust it to you taste.
EQ - Press LOW and adjust the LOW GAIN to simulate the Proximity Effect, it reacts as the real mic, default is as far as possible with no proximity effect. The rest of the EQ settings simulate the mic frequency response.
Trick - To neutralize the mic frequencies of a real mic plugged in in order to get an aproximate flat response, reverse the image of EQ settings.(Change + to - and vice versa of every setting). You will have to choose the same profile of the mic your connecting.
ANOTHER TRICK - try to use this as a master stereo EQ, very nice results as if the whole image is captured by a stereo pair.
We've recently purchased the Midas M32C, along with the KLANG:fabrik, and we connect them to each other via Dante.The signals for each channel come over to the KLANG from the M32C pre-fader, pre-effects. So the only thing we can control in the M32C is the gain. The KLANG:fabrik only has EQ, no other effects. We'd like to add effects such as compression, gate, EQ, etc. to the channels in the M32C, so they sound better through the KLANG. Is there a setting in the M32C where the channels can be sent over to the KLANG post effects?
Hello
I guess you use it in a studio ?? (monitoring for musicians)
how many sources are you using generally ? there are different ways for routing the incoming sources to the outputs ! one is what you use already : the incoming sources are directly re-routed to the card outputs...
the other way would be to route the inputs to the mixers channels (where you can apply some comp, gate or EQ) and than from there to the busses and from there to the outputs (Dante -> Klang) ! as you have 16 normal busses (and 4 of them are normally used as FX busses) and 3 main busses, that means you can output at maximum 19 sources individually... or create some submixes (or stems) for your musicians...
and you can even add 6 more outputs by using the 6 aux-insert points (you don't need to activate the insert-loop) just select one of the 6 aux-inserts for a given channel and make sure that the patch is done right and the source will be outputted directly...CARD-OUTs must be patched to AUX1-6M; and the AUXes have to be configured as inserts ("I")
make also sure the insert-point is selected as "post" so that eq and comp are taken into account (the gate is always before the insert-send)
one more possibility is to use "Ultranet" virtually; that means : your are routing your sources to the mixers channels (INPUT-Tab); than you are routing the Direct-Outs in the "Ultranet-Tab" to the Ultranet-Outputs (make sure to have them post-eq ! and in the Card-Tab you re-route these Ultranet-Channels to the Dante-Outputs
and in combing all these possibilites you can easily achieve the 32 sources-rerouting individually (and even add some Effects like reverb or delay)
but maybe it would be easier to provide both : sub-mixes /stems and individal sources to the musicians ..?!
hope that helps ..?
pay attention especially to the fact that there is no latency-compensation at all in these consoles !! that is really a bad thing in these M32, because there are lots of different latencies depending which routing you use (and depending of activation of insert-loops or which FX-module you'll use) -> differences in latencies create different phases for given sources !! this may have some audible incidence especially in 3D monitoring as used by Klang !! so be aware of that !!
Hello, not familiar with the KLANG though it looks like a really nice piece of gear! How do you normally rout signals to it? I think you may just need to satge your M32 routing differently. If you use "local" as your output sources everything is sent input/LC only. Using the outputs 1-16, aux out or ultranet out routing assignments as aes50A/B and card out (or the last 3 columns of user out) sources lets you choose any tap point from the 9 options. If it's buses that are the issue, each ch can send to a any mixbus as post eq or post fader (and other) possibilities. That is set under the sends option for each ch.
Is it possibe or a setting when setting up the dp_48 through the AES-50 for the DP-48 to receive the eq channels from the m32? I have it working but the channels received by the dp-48 are not eq from the board. I have a seperate M32 for the dp-48's for the ear system. The dp-48 unit will eq each group but I would like to eq each channel going into the dp-48 from the M32 to have studio sound in ear system . I was hoping this can be done. Any Thoughts?
@roydrooster wrote:
Is it possibe or a setting when setting up the dp_48 through the AES-50 for the DP-48 to receive the eq channels from the m32?
Yes of course there is Christopher. Use the Out 1-16, Ultranet or Aux Out screens to assign Direct Out Chan with taps post EQ. Then assign those banks of 8 to the AES50. This is what I do most of the time now.
I recently updated my M32R console to firmware version 4.02. After the update, when powering on the console I would experience intermittently having the screen go black. Everything else about the console seems to function as normal. Now the screen won't turn on at all. The console still functions but I can't see anything on the screen. I've put in a technical support ticket with Midas, but haven't heard back yet. Has anyone else experienced this issue?
Hello @StevenGwaltney
David Knighton here with Midas support. I performed a quick search in our CRM to check on your case and it appears you have already been reached by one of our other support agents. If I can suggest anything in regards to the issue you're having with the console, it would be to downgrade the firmware to 3.07 and see if the issue remains present. Sometimes odd things can happen during firmware updates, and reinstalling an earlier firmware can have promising results. Let me know if you need any further assistance and I will gladly help out as best as I can.
Hi all,
Looking at getting the M32C but have a question.
I'll have my monitors connected to the two TRS sockets on the rack. As well as studio use they are used just to monitor my normal Mac output such as iTunes or Tidal. I guess I can set that up in the sound control panel on the Mac but I want to know if I can use the hardware knob on the front of the M32C to control the output volume for the rear TRS outputs; my monitors do not have a gain control so I like to keep the output form the hardware lowered to prevent 'problems' when my kids use the Mac and turn the Mac volume up too high. If I can set that up can it be saved as the defualt so will work like that when the unit is powered up?
I've downloaded the M32 app but, with no M32 unit connected it looks to default to one of the biggger consoles so can't work out if the routing will allow the above or not.
The knob on the front does a lot of jobs but volume control isn't one of them. You need to use the volume control in the monitor section. That level I believe is saved with a scene but the unit will start up with whatever the last level used was set for.
I was going to say that but didn't want to discourage your use of the M32C. I have a Core and it has worked great for well over 5 years. probably way more than 5 as I got it when they first came out. I am an owner of an M32 and MR18 so I am not a Midas basher by amy means BUT the Core is one case where Behringer is the better option over the M32C, esp since neither has preamps! The Core has the volumn control, headphone input, 2 rotary and 4 button controllers on the front. They do pop up here and there. Hope you find one.
Thanks @GaryHiggins guess I'll need to keep an eye out... Would got for the Berry x32 rack but wanted something 1u in height for my desk with a couple of outputs and to have the main connections out of the way. Mostly I'm processing/mixing from my DAW with only a bit of tracking of acoustic instruments.
Hi musicians and technicians. Greetings from Norway
I purchased a Midas M32R live 4 weeks ago. Sold my X32 three years ago which I did a lot of multitrack recording in Cubase
Do apologies for asking this common question, but the search function and result is to generic and to many “wrong answers?
I do have the latest firmware update on my mixer and the DN-32 LIVE card
My routing questions is related to 4 aux inputs routed to input ch 17-20.
I wane be able to record my 4 aux channels trough ch17-22 and to the SD card. Of course I wane playback al the tracks from the SD card to the same input channels for listening and tweaking.
I also want to have the same routing when I record trough usb port and to Cubasis 2 Ipad. I only need to have a 2-track stereo back to my console from my I pad
I had read several posts and youtube video’s but they are mainly on X32 console’s and old firmware.
The ROUTER-USER menu is new to me. Is the solution in the new user tab ?
Please send me an example of routing, ore a link that will clearly show me the answer.
I’ve been routing for 2 weeks and I ‘am out of patient ?
The best way for us to help is to look at your current scene. Save/export the scene and attach the .scn file to your post (see the Choose File button below).
The User In and User Out patching in console firmware V4.xx is very helpful for managing channel input reassignments - particularly with record/play switching for the option card USB/SD.
Thanks Rex.
I have today studied user in/outs videos and will give it I try before I dump photos from my routing.
If the routing in user in/outs also direct the input and sound to the SD card and DAW, I should manage ?
@DagFrognerHanse wrote:
Thanks Rex.
I have today studied user in/outs videos and will give it I try before I dump photos from my routing.
If the routing in user in/outs also direct the input and sound to the SD card and DAW, I should manage ?
The best approach is to map all channel inputs for Record through User In and all Card outputs through User Out - using the same patching. This means that the SD/USB tracks will match the console channel numbers. The input Play routing from Card can then be 1:1 and all channels will get the recording from their original source.
If you do run into trouble, please post your scene rather than screenshots. It gives us almost all the information we need to be able to help.
Hello... I have an MR18 that I can use in conjunction with my MacBook Pro or iPad Pro (or Android phone or Kindle Fire, but for this purpose I wouldn't use either of those). My goal is to stream live video of a performance using a mix off the MR18 in place of the audio from the mic on whichever device I choose to capture the video stream. Simultaneouosly I wish to:
- have live sound in the performance space over my PA system from the MR18
- record BOTH the audio and video of the event (I realize I shouldn't expect video recording tips on this forum, but if you have any, that'd be awesome)
- preferably multitrack as I record, rather than just get a main L-R mix.
I have Logic Pro X on the MacBook Pro. I don't have recording software on the iPad Pro, but I do have an USB to lightning adapter it that helps. If all I can do is record the main mix, then so be it. But optimally it would be nice to have the tracks isolated so that I can clean them up in case afterwards I want to upload the video (and I probably will). It's likely to be only 2 tracks (guitar and vocal), but there may be a few more inputs as well.
Thoughts and suggestions? Many thanks... stay healthy and safe, everyone!
On the MacBook Pro, you should be able to record up to 18 channels from the MR18 over USB. The channel sources are set using M-Air Edit on the In/Out -> USB Sends tab. Depending on what streaming software you use, it should be possible to select a pair of the USB channels as audio source.
I believe some users have been able to record multi-channel on iPads but I don't know what software is required.
Thanks so much for your input, RexBeckett!
I use an iPad mini to record. I think it's an iPad mini 2. I've used Auria Pro or MTDaw or AUM apps to record. I've been recording 4 hour live sessions every Friday for a year. 16 channels recorded. All apps have worked flawlessly. I prefer Auria Pro because I get an AAF which I then import into Protools for mixing.
PaulSinkovich... and you're capturing your video as you live stream as well as recording the video, as well as mixing on the MR18 software to mix as well as tracking in Auria Pro... all simultaneously on the one iPad mini???
I'm using the iPad mini exclusively to record the audio from the xr18. I use GoPros to record the video. Then sync them up with the audio from the xr18 which is recorded on the iPad mini in Auria Pro. I export the AAF file from Auria Pro to my Mac.
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