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  • ghost56
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-02-08

    hi

     newbie here, everywhere i look people have the m32 edit looking like a mixing desk.

    my question is  how do they do it do you have to import a scene from the midas m32 desk to make it look like this.

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    • ghost56
      DaveMorrison

      @ghost56 


      The old versions of M32-Edit had this interface. The newer versions have a different layout and that's what you are seeing. While the old versions look like the hardware, they're not useful when connecting to your mixer with version 3 or 4 firmware. 

      • February 8, 2020
    • ghost56
      KevinMaxwell


      @ghost56 wrote:


      hi


       newbie here, everywhere i look people have the m32 edit looking like a mixing desk.


      my question is  how do they do it do you have to import a scene from the midas m32 desk to make it look like this.





      The last version that looked like the console was V2.5 and I just recently sent that version to someone that had never used a digital console before. Because it is a good training tool. But as Dave indicated there are incompatibilities as between Edit V2.5 and the consoles running version 3 or 4 of the firmware. 

      • February 9, 2020
  • PatrickGMaillot
    Valued Contributor - Level 2
    2020-02-08
    Using a Stream Deck device with X32ReaperAutoMate! V1.006 will soon be available for users of the licensed version and include support for this. X32XLiveAutoMate is already compatible as of V1.002. See it at https://youtu.be/sQ8MwkfGUdg -Patrick
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  • KingstonCole
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-02-04

    Hey, guys, I'm doing a science fair project on creating a digital stethoscope, where I insert a microphone by the head of the stethoscope and then seal it off (so the continuous column of sound is preserved). The microphone then picks up the sound from the stethoscope head and transmits it to my computer through the 3.5mm headphone jack.

    Do you guys have any idea what things I would test as part of my experiment design, I want to compare 3 designs but I am not sure what criteria I should use to find which design is best? Any suggestions?, I was thinking like lowest frequency, highest amplitude

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  • KingstonCole
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-02-04

    In my studio, I have a large audio interface and mix with software. I feel that my options are pretty limitless this way, and I can really dial in thick effects and complex audio routes. I write electronic music, and being able to lay on effects really thick to where they're bordeTweakbox  rline part of the instrument Appvalley is important to me.

    When I think of a mixing console, I think simple "send/return" effect routes and basic EQs. If I wanted to (as an example) add a few effects to a channel, split it to two channels for effects on the high and low https://vlc.onl/  frequencies, then combine them on another channel with a compressor, I see this as borderline impossibility with a console.

    However, you can probably tell that I'm really out of the loop. There has to be a reason why every professional recording studio has a console. Is it the hands-on approach? Are the mixes simpler? What am I missing?

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    • KingstonCole
      Paul_Vannatto


      @KingstonCole wrote:


      When I think of a mixing console, I think simple "send/return" effect routes and basic EQs. If I wanted to (as an example) add a few effects to a channel, split it to two channels for effects on the high and low frequencies, then combine them on another channel with a compressor, I see this as borderline impossibility with a console.


      However, you can probably tell that I'm really out of the loop. 





      I would say most definitely to your question. Have a look at one of the introductory level digital consoles - the XR18. It can do what you describe and a lot more. Then have a look at the X32, the Wing, etc. 


       




      There has to be a reason why every professional recording studio has a console. 



      The biggest reason is that you have to have an interface that can convert physical inputs (mic, instrument, etc.) to digital and the final digital output to physical outputs (analog). Modern digital consoles have dropped in price to the point that the cost difference to dedicated I/O interfaces has narrowed significantly. Mixing within the console (for FOH and monitor mixes) results in lower latency than if done in a DAW. Add to all of that, many prefer the touch and sight of physical faders, knobs, etc.

      • February 4, 2020
    • KingstonCole
      PatrickGMaillot My humble opinion on this is most people are much at ease with their hands/fingers on direct controls (faders, knobs, encoders), than clicking on a mouse for performing the same operations. Furthermore you have two hands, and can easily control several faders at once using your hands. Pretty much impossible with a mouse, unless you 'prepare' your move ahead of time. That's one of the nice things in using the X32 as a control surface with REAPER or XLive in the programs I wrote, either to just control REAPER' state [X32Reaper], or to perform full mixes [X32ReaperAutoMate & X32XLiveAutoMate]. With the latter two, the X32 is really used at its best, using the desk as a control surface and its audio engine for recording. Automation being performed in realtime, and all changes can be saved/recalled, even going back and forth between REAPER and XLive audio. -Patrick
      • February 4, 2020
    • KingstonCole
      AntoniPal

      Dear @KingstonCole,


      I'd say it's nothing wrong with mixing just in a box - it's just a matter of Your preferences. However, ... 

      Console gives You a bit more of flexibility to adapt to sessions demands - especially in the tracking process.
      Once it can be track-by-track, then it could be 20-by-80, and so on, and on, and on. 


      In case You do have a several (or at least two) performers playing together they might want to hear themselves, and track's coming from DAW. Due to the nature of DAWs and sound devices drivers some latency is always inducted. In general, hardware solutions - as consoles - are way more efficient regarding latency. 
      A perfect solution for small studio could be an X/M32 with P16, or DP48 system to satisfy not only tracking itself, but also monitoring. You can configure clean signals go directly to Your DAW, and whole processing for monitoring purposes can be done in the console. 
      Afterwards, whole mixing can be done on clean tracks in-the-box. 
      That usually works for me. 


      Hope that helps. Reach me out if You'd have some more questions. 

      • February 13, 2020
  • one2one
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-02-04

    Hey fellow tech heads i need some help. Recently purchased a Midas DP48 and am trying to connect it to the Midas Pro 1. any ideas on how to do it. thanks in advance

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    • one2one
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi James @one2one 


      Welcome to the forum. You should be able to connect the DP48 to one of the AES50 ports of the Pro 1. Since the Pro 1 has a 96Khz clock rate, that would mean that the DP48 would only be able to access 24 channels instead of the 48 channels (at 44/48Khz clock rate).


       


      There is no DP48 support on the Pro 1 for group names and assignments, like on the M32. You will need to do that on the DP48 itself. To create the group names, you will need to create a file called names.csv. In it should be one line of comma delimited names, for example


      Gtr1Vox,Gtr2Vox,DrumVox,None,Gtr1,Gtr2,Bass,None,KickIn,DrumMix,None,TB


      and save that file in the DP48 folder in the SD card. Finally insert the SD card into the DP48 and go to the Setup, Group Names to load them in.


       


       

      • February 3, 2020
    • one2one
      one2one

      hello again, followed your steps but still getting nothing on the DP48. currently though the "in" symbol on the DP48 is switching between red and green and still cant get any audio out of it. is that a DP48 problem or a Pro1 problem. 


      thanks in advance

      • February 6, 2020
  • lysterj
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-02-03

    I'm not sure where to report it, so I'll try here - I've found a bug (pretty dramatically, during a show) in firmware 4.02.  

    Using the new block User Input patch in 4.02, and a channel safed, head amp gain is not retained during a scene recall.  All other channel parameters appear to correctly retain their values.  I've tried changing scenes with input patch set to Local, and AES50, and the channel safe behaves as expected (input gain stays put).  But with User Input patches, gain is not sticking.

    Using a DL32 head box on AES50a, if that matters.

    Hopefully it can be fixed in the next update.  

     

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  • KingstonCole
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-02-03

    Hey there, I apologize for this question which is probably stupid but I've crossed a problem that I can't seem to solve with Google-fu. I have the Blue Yeticaster. (Blue Yeti mic, Rahttps://scrabblewordfinder.vip/ dius shock mount, and Compass boom arm.)

    I intend to replace the Yeti and Radius with an XLR mic down the road but that isn't what I'm here for.

    I want to find a way to mount one of those box mic flags between the Compass and the shock mount in a way that would work now or when I upgrade since I intend to use the Comphttps://www.applock.ooo/ ass either way. The way you see them do it in radio studios and what not. The boom arm isn't long enough to do it out of box.

    Is there an extension I can buy to put between the two? What would it be called?

    Hope I'm not being to vague or confusing.

    Thanks in advance!

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  • KingstonCole
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-02-03

    I have a question, that may seem sort of dumb but I'm having a hard time gaining much knowledge through google searches. I currently work on Logic witTweakboxh a Scarlett 18i20, along with Appvalley a few rack mount preamps. I am interested in going the mixing console route as opposed to the Scarlett interface. I have seen that they have mixer consoles with interfaces built in, that do offer midi c mhttps://vlc.onl/ontrol. I'm also not as interested in going the midi controller route necessarily. What I am curious about is using an analog mixing console to record into my daw. How would the signal chain of this work, though? and what additional equipment would I need? Let me know if I need to clarify this more.

     
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    • KingstonCole
      RexBeckett

      @KingstonCole 


      On many small analogue consoles, the integrated USB interfaces are stereo. They allow the whole mix to be recorded but not individual channels. You may be better looking at digital mixers. The XR18 or MR18 can record eighteen channels. The recording can be taken from directly after the preamp if required to avoid any digital processing. If you need more channels, there are several X32 or M32 models that can record up to 32 tracks over USB.

      • February 3, 2020
  • leondwinga
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-02-02

    Hello everyone,

     

    Thank you in advance for any help with this issue.  I have a new m32r that I am using with firmware 4.02.  I am trying to route some matrix mixes out of the local xlr outputs and am only able to get mix 1 out of xlr 1, mix 2 out of xlr 2 and so forth.  I can send anything I want to the stage boxes but not the local outs. 

    I am able send whatever I want out of the aux outputs as well.  

    Is this a limitation of the m32r because it was originally made as a monitor mixer? This presents a challenge for sending video feeds at front of house. 

    Thank you for any feedback!

     

     

     

     

     

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    • leondwinga
      DaveMorrison

      Hi @leondwinga 


      There is no limitation. It's just the complexity of this powerful (yet confusing) One, Two , (and sometimes Three) stage routing. The most common way is to set your matrix on the Routing : Out 1-16 tab and then these outs are sent to Routing : XLR.


      Take a look at my video if you want some examples and hopefully some clarity. https://youtu.be/hWPCKCSR7fU 


      Edit: If you want, you can  post your current scene file, and someone will take a look at it and help you.


      Here are (older) instructions for saving/uploading a scene. https://behringerwiki.musictribe.com/index.php?title=Uploading_files_to_the_forum
      Upload by Choose File at the bottom of the window.

      • February 2, 2020
    • leondwinga
      GaryHiggins

      @leondwinga Hello, @DaveMorrison has told you correctly, i would just simply add


       


       AES50 routing controls what is sent to stageboxes and other mixers


      XLR routing controls the (local) XLR's on the mixer itself


       


      The power comes from the fact they are independent of one another. Even though they can (and do by default) output the same things they can also be quite different. In your case you must have changed one or both of them and are experiencing the "different" results. Some day that ability will be your friend!

      • February 2, 2020
  • MDH64
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-02-02

    Hello

    I came in this morning to begin church service and when I fired up the midas pro 2 console  it did not come all the way up it stopped at this message which has never happened before.

    "Enter Password: ATP COMPACT FLASH -(PM) 2679608921 [             ]"

    Has anyone come across this issue before, would love for someone to reply.

    regards

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    • MDH64
      Ishai

      Good Morning- no , it has never happened to me but real curious to see how fast Support will respond. As per their new way of doing things I strongly recomend you open a new service ticket- armed with your console serial number which is a required field in the form and let's see how fast they respond. Hope you were able to have a service...


      Ishai

      • February 2, 2020
    • MDH64
      AntoniPal

      Dear @MDH64 
      Have You reached out to music Tribe CARE team by online support form? Have You received an answer already? 
      If not, could You please post here a case number? 
      With regards, Antoni. 

      • February 6, 2020
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