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  • terox93
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-03-23

    Hey Guys,

    I have a midas Pro X with a Neutron NB expansion, I have connected a KT-Dante64  card in and its detected but not configured. Anyone got any ideas on how to connect this ?

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  • JAB
    Contributor - Level 3
    2020-03-22

    I just bought the M32R I'm having some troubles figuring out how to have seperation coming out of my main speakers from Studio One Pro daw. When I'm tring to pan L to R it does not correspond with the speakers. The board is shipped with main speakers out 7 & 8 and they are panned left to right. I can pan channels on the board to make it work, but that does not seem necessary. I.ve been trying to figure this out for 48 hours,I could surely use some help. Thank You

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    • JAB
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi James @JAB 


      Welcome to the forum. This is likely due to a routing issue, either in Studio One or in the M32. I would suggest you export your scene to a file (either using the Utility button on the console or M32-Edit for PC, Mac or linux) and attach it to your next post (Choose File below). We'll have a look and better advise.


       

      • March 22, 2020
    • JAB
      JAB

      Hello Paul, thx for the quick response. I hope I saved the file correctly, I'm a newbie.

      Test.scn
      • March 22, 2020
    • JAB
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi James @JAB 


      The tracks from ProTools (via Card In) are coming in as mono tracks 1-16. Therefore the console will only see those tracks as mono. If you want to control the pan field from the DAW, you will need to setup 2 of the channels in the M32 as a stereo linked pair (on the channel's, config screen). Then send the output from the DAW as a stereo output.


       

      • March 22, 2020
    • JAB
      JAB

      Hi Paul, thank you for your advice it's working, but I wish I understood the routing system better, but I guess I will over time. I have the signal coming in through two auxiliary channels "AUX IN USB" channels one and two and I planned them L-R.


      I have another question. I have two pairs of monitors, I would like to A & B them for mixing purposes. I have the first set of monitors plugged into output 7 & 8 using USB aux channels 1 & 2. If I plug the other speakers into output 5 & 6, I've been trying to figure out how to route that using USB aux channels 3 and 4.

      • March 22, 2020
    • JAB
      Paul_Vannatto


      @JAB wrote:


      I have two pairs of monitors, I would like to A & B them for mixing purposes. I have the first set of monitors plugged into output 7 & 8 using USB aux channels 1 & 2. If I plug the other speakers into output 5 & 6, I've been trying to figure out how to route that using USB aux channels 3 and 4.





      One way to do this is to first stereo link channels 3/4. Then go to the Main tab (of one of those channels) and unselect the LR - so that it doesn't go to the Main LR). Finally on the Routing, Out 1-16, change Outputs 5/6 to DirOut Ch 3/4 (post fader) respectively. 


       

      • March 22, 2020
  • allendicharry
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-03-22

    I've been using the board for about 4 months and tweaking and perfecting the entire setup (not aware that I needed to save the set up, since it came right back up everytime I powered on). We had a special service outside the usual, so I decided to save it as a scene, but when I did an old scene loaded up (from the previous owner of the board) and wiped out all my work. I tried the undo function several times, but I cannot get back to the config I have been using for the last 4 months. I have since learned that I should've been saving that configurations as a scene and never did. Upon accidentally loading up a saved scene, it looks like it wiped out everything I had done. Is there any way to bring back my old config? (I've only saved audio files to usb.) The scene that got loaded was from a previous owner of the board and totally different from how I configured it. Please tell me I don't need to rebuild the entire set up from the ground up!

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    • allendicharry
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Allen @allendicharry 


      Welcome to the forum. Unfortunately loading a scene will overwrite almost all settings on the M32. Once overwritten, there is no way of getting it back. It is not only very important to save your settings to a scene (on the scene list), but export it to a file for backup. 

      • March 22, 2020
  • Torrence
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-03-20
    Hello humans, Please direct me to a thread if this has already been started, I looked but did not find it. I am mixing some tracks on my M32R from a logic session and would like to bounce back a stereo mix into logic, to use the console processing rather than completely in the box. How do I get my Card Out mix, back into Logic as a stereo Mix? Thanks!
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  • Konstantinos
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-03-20

    Can anyone tell me how can I send computer audio (ex youtube audio) through M Air console to skype?

    I am using windows 10

    (I chose as playback and recordinr devices in windows settings: OUT 1-2 (Midas MR18) and IN 1-2(Midas MR18)

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  • MichalNiezbecki
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-03-18

    Hi,

    In the DP48 manual I have found that info:

    "Midas PRO SERIES and M32 console input channel labelling and colour information transmitted to DP48 personal monitor mixer via AES50 input channels.”

    Midas PRO works at 96 kHz, DP48 at 44.1/48 kHz.

    Is that info from the manual correct?

    How to run it together, DP48 and Midas PRO Series?

    How to broadcast channel labeling and colours from Midas PRO?

    Unfortunately I can't open support ticket, several times I was tried I only got "Encountered an error, please submit again." message.

    Best regards,

    MN

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    • MichalNiezbecki
      Roblof

      The missing information is that there will be a bridge between the pro-series and dp48. This piece of hardware is yet to be released.

      • March 21, 2020
    • MichalNiezbecki
      colino_ltapl

      Hi MN,


      This is a good question and i was exploring this option too. What i could think of was using the KT9650 with AES50 card running on 48kHz, goes back down into the Midas HUB4 which you can distribute them into the DP48. 


      The another thought i had was if we are going to sell DP48 to other console platforms where if they are running DANTE/MADI consoles, what is the in between. I could think of the KT9652, with AES50 card and DANTE or MADI card, which other console can send in the direct outs. 


      BUT also, if we are going to do that. how is DP48 going to get the Channel labels as only M32 can broadcast the console labeling and get it label on the DP48 when you are doing your adjustment or assignments. Or maybe if there is an Excel sheet that we can follow, transfer it to the SD card and get all channels to be labelled. 


      Currently i am waiting for my AES50 cards to arrive so i can test it out on the 9650 and 9652 which i have them too. 


      I hope to share more with you guys upcoming and learn more together too. 


      Wishing you all staying safe and take care too. 

      • May 8, 2020
    • MichalNiezbecki
      steveg123

      Any update on this. I notice the DP48 manual says.

      "Midas PRO SERIES and M32 console input channel labelling and colour information transmitted to DP48 personal monitor mixer via AES50 input channels.”

      But I'm hearing that ProSeries will not get name/color information due to the fact you need KT96xx converter inbetween. With KT converter, does name/color information still make it to DP48?

      • Aug 16
  • CharlesLiu
    Contributor - Level 1
    2020-03-18

    Anyone tried downloading M32 Edit 4.1?  I tried running this on my mac under macOS 10.15.3 Catalina.  Any pointer?

    Charles

     

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  • Cimarron
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-03-16

    Hello all,

        I just received my M32 mixer, and it came with a DN32-Live card to interface to my DAW.  It seems that this may be the place I might request suggestions on what I might need to do to make that work.  If not, and you can suggest a proper place to ask, I would appreciate that.

        So, in general I found some directions for installing the drivers and such for the DN32-USB, which may be part of my issue (or not), though I didn't appreciate that there was a distinction at the time.  I followed the directions to upgrade the M32's firmware to 4.02, and that seemed to complete fine, the M32 is working from what I can tell (I've not tried every option - by far, of course) and sounds great through the mains.

        I then installed the ASIO-Driver v4.59 onto my DAW computer.  I can see the DN32-LIVE in the Device Manager under Sound, video and game controllers.  However looking at the Properties, the Device status says that "This device cannot start [Code 10]".  I've tried computer restarting/power cycling (several times), using different USB ports, trying a different USB cable, to no avail.

        Also, and probably no surprise here, I've tried the DN32USBAudioDfu.exe, which it appears is intended to update firmware on the DN32-LIVE itself, which pops up a "DN32-USB Firmware Upgrade" window, but it says "No device found.  Please plug in the device you want to upgrade".

        In my frustration I even dug out an old Macbook Pro and tried plugging into that (it was suggested that no driver installation would be needed for the Mac - though I wouldn't want to use that computer as my DAW), and that instantly just crashed my Mac upon plugin, and if I powered it up with the DN32 plugged in via USB, it also crashed while trying to boot.  So, some research about that seemed to suggest that my Macbook Pro had "Snow Leopard" on it, which does crash like that, but upgrading to Lion (I think it was - next version up), would make it work.  I haven't yet tried to do the upgrade, since thats not my preferred system for this.  But at least it indicates that some computer can detect and react (by crashing) to the fact that my DN32 is attached - and given the OS installed on that system, it even reacts the way that is expected (though not as desired).

    So I guess the main point of this post is to solicit any suggestions or guidance that could get my M32-Live connected to my Computer (and then get the DAW to see it).  Thanks for any help with this.

    -- Greg

     

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    • Cimarron
      RexBeckett

      @Cimarron 


      Hello Greg, welcome to the community.


      First check that the option card is really a DN32-Live. It should have SD card slots as well as a USB connector. With the console power off, remove the card and reinsert - making sure it fits into the guides correctly.


       


      With the console power on, check on Setup -> Card that the card is being recognized. Also check on Setup -> Global under Firmware that the card firmware is A12. If not, you will need to download the A12 firmware and install it.


       


      With everything connected and on, open Windows Device Manager and display the DN32-Live device. Right-click and select Uninstall. Now disconnect the USB and reboot the PC. When you reconnect the USB, the device should be reinstalled - possibly without errors.

      • March 16, 2020
    • Cimarron
      GaryHiggins

      @Cimarron 


      I think @RexBeckett has hit the main issue-the DN-32 Live latest firmware is required. Pretty sure you need A12 with mixer firmware 4.02. That can't be done via a computer but by a usb stick on the mixer itself. If mixer firmware version 4.02 is installed already you can try to update the card with the mixer ON by using setup/update/firmware (bottom left of the screen) and then it will let you scroll to the proper update file on the usb drive. If that fails or won't work properly you will have to do it with the mixer off. Make sure the A12 card firmware file is then the ONLY firmware at the root directory with the mixer off method. Other type mixer firmware can be in a folder on the drive but not at the root directory. Turn on the mixer while holding down the usb button, the card firmware should update. You can cofirm the card firmware on the setup page by reading the (very tiny) info given there.


      I might suggest completely uninstalling the drivers and trying again.


      Also perhaps worth a try is usb driver 4.38 which can be found if you check off show legacy versions in the list of available files.


       


      EDIT: There are several known issues with Win7-documented in the pdf.


       


       

      • March 16, 2020
    • Cimarron
      Cimarron

      @GaryHigginsThanks for taking time to reply to my message.


      As I mentioned in my reply to @RexBeckett it looks like the M32 (which has 4.02 firmware)  sees the DN32 card, and is reporting a firmware version of A12.  So, I would assume I could move beyond the firmware installation (or re-installation), or would you think that might still be a potental step to take?


      It seems a reasonable step to try deleting the DN32 driver in Windows Add/Remove programs (after first removing the device again from the device manager), and then reinstalling it.  I've seen stranger things happen.


      Failing that I may look into the 4.38 driver.  Thanks for that information.  And I'll look for the .pdf you refered to.


      Thanks again,


      -- Greg


       

      • March 17, 2020
    • Cimarron
      RexBeckett

      @Cimarron 


      It sounds as though the console is happy with the DN32-Live card and the card is running the latest firmware. I cannot say whether it is worth buying a suitable driver to reseat the card only that it has sometimes fixed problems. It has also been known for reinstallation of the card firmware to apparently fix problems. I've seen it on my own console and cannot explain it. Sometimes there can be a sequence of steps that fix a problem and we don't always identify the actual cause.


       


      There can be several reasons why a USB device cannot start. Common ones are defective USB cables, using a USB 3 port instead of a USB 2.0 one, connecting through a USB hub, incorrect drivers or that the device has a fault. I think you have already tried different cables and ports. It would certainly be worth following Gary's advice to reinstall the driver and, if necessary, trying an older version of the driver.

      • March 17, 2020
    • Cimarron
      Cimarron

      My son brought his macbook down and we connected the USB from the DN32-LIVE to that and he pulled up Logic and it saw the interface and could specify any of the 32 channels as the input device for a channel.  So, it seems pretty apparent that the issue is with my computer.


      I had purchased myself the appropriate screwdriver and removed the DN32-LIVE, and re-installed it.  Just to give that a chance, and overall good to have the screwdriver.  No change.


      I went to try the older 4.38 driver, and in the folder with the driver there is a PDF file TUSBAudio_KnownIssues_v4.38.0.pdf which I looked into and see a section "10.3 AllSignersEqual Group Policy breaks Driver Installation".  Reading about this it sounds like the issue I'm having.  If this is set to OFF somehow (thrugh Group Policy Editor or something), Windows will not actually install the driver although the driver setup finishes successfully.  When it finds the DN32 on the USB port it installs a built in driver "for the respective device which possibly fails to start".  I had noticed that the device manager page that described the DN32 device did say something about a "Microsoft" driver, but I thought that might have been a result of the other issue I'd had to address to even try to install the driver, which involved installing a Windows Update KB3033929 to resolve.  This was apparently due to an issue that the driver wasn't signed (or incorrectly signed or something).


      So, I wanted to check on the setting, but apparently the Windows 7 Home Premium edition on my computer is too lame to have gpedit.msc to start from the run menu (or another thing I saw mentioned gpupdate.msc from an administrator command prompt), which are the tools that are to be used for "Enterprise" versions of Win7, and it did mention that they wouldn't be there if you had Home Premium.  But it didn't mention how to check, or what to do if you do have Home Premium (which I do).


      This sounds like exactly what I'm encountering, If anyone knows about Group Policies on Home Premium (does it even have them?), or perhaps an alternate approach to installing the driver (manually copying some files into place and possibly making a registry entry or such)?  Or perhaps this might already have been resolved, if I only knew where to look or what to search for.

      • March 23, 2020
  • PatrickGMaillot
    Valued Contributor - Level 2
    2020-03-15
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    2.0 released!
     
    The two applications providing automation for X32 or M32 desks can now also be used for organizing your work files, your mix files for theater or musical performances by using X32 or M32 cues and their text/name as a help to sort or recognize them. Additionally, utilities are added to generate the list of cues to use/load to the desk, and to edit event files generated by the two applications.
     
    All available under the "Products" section of https://x32ram.com
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  • ssutton503
    Contributor - Level 2
    2020-03-12

    I am pulling the sound from our X32 sound board and taking into a digital video recorder. When I plug the cable from the sound board (I have tried the headphone jack and one of the Auxilary outs) I get a hum on the recorder.  If I uplug the cable from the sound board, the hum stops on the camera. When recording video, it seems like the hum increases or decreases in intensity when the person speaking on the mic is talking or not. Any suggestions as to the cause and/or a solution?

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    • ssutton503
      Paul_Vannatto

      Hi Steve @ssutton503 ,


      What kind of cables are you using between the X32 and video recorder? If it is the typical dual RCA to RCA, they are unbalanced cables and may be running close to some AC electrical source and picking up the 50/60 Hz. If so, pull the cable away from any AC source. If that is not the case, you may have a ground loop. Solution to that is to plug the video recorder into the same power outlet as the X32 (if it is a duplex type outlet found in North America).


       

      • March 12, 2020
    • ssutton503
      ssutton503

      Paul, thanks for the reply. I will certainly look into the path of the cables and see who is plugged into where.


      The cable I am using is a Devinal TRS Interconnect cable, mini jack to 1/4" audio path cord lead. 10 ft in length and gold plated connectors.


      Again, thank you for your input.

      • March 12, 2020
    • ssutton503
      KevinMaxwell


      @ssutton503 wrote:


      Paul, thanks for the reply. I will certainly look into the path of the cables and see who is plugged into where.


      The cable I am using is a Devinal TRS Interconnect cable, mini jack to 1/4" audio path cord lead. 10 ft in length and gold plated connectors.


      Again, thank you for your input.





      The Aux outputs on the X32 are balanced ¼” outs. Only if the input on the recorder has a 1/8” balanced input might a TRS ¼” cable to a TRS 1/8” cable work properly. What video recorder are you using and what exactly are the inputs expecting to see? You would be best to use some sort of balancing transformer device between the X32 and the recorder.


       


      But first you must know the way to stop a device from humming it to teach it the words.  

      • March 13, 2020
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