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  • New
    Yannoa
    Contributor - Level 2
    2022-03-29

    Hi,

    I ve got 2 sets of machine :

    set 1:  x32c/DL16 with x-dante exp.card

    set 2 : M32C/S16 with x-dante exp.card

    ALL LAST FIRMWARE including dante cards and S16/DL16 stagebox

    the dante seems to have a probleme with the m32c and the rooting is sending something like a numeric feedback. I save the memory of the x32c and load it back to the m32c and carfully check all the setings including the routings who are exactly identical. later I exchange the expension card to be sure.... ....but still the same probs. My network is correctly setup and I do not have any dante issue on my dante controler.

    Im surprise because I thought that the x32c and the m32c were identical (the software and memories are interchangable). Can someone knows more about it. Is there is any electric differency btw xdante and DNdante cards and thoses products are not interchangeable as i thought ?

    thanks for your help ;)

     

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    twilliams
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-03-28

    I have some snippets set up on my Midas M32. The young man that set them up isn't availiable and I was wondering if there is anyway to see how they were set up from looking on the mixer or mixer software on the computer?

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    • twilliams
      KyleJohnson Hello, Kyle here with Music Tribe. If you open the Scenes>Snippets menu on the mixer and scroll through the snippets you can see which parameters and channels are selected for each. Then load them and see how the parameters change and use the Utility button to be able to select EDIT to change the names so you can name them something you can recognize.
      • Mar 28
    • twilliams
      Paul_Vannatto One way to know what exactly the snippets do is to export them to files and have a look at them using a text editor. If you need help interpreting the OSC commands, let me know.
      • Mar 28
      • Snippet
        twilliams When I open the files here is what it shows. It don't show how it was created. #4.0# "Guitar - Punch" 33554432 0 0 0 1
        /config/userrout/in 129 130 3 4 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160
        • Mar 29
    • twilliams
      Paul_Vannatto That could have been created using either the snippet screen in the M32 console, the M32-Edit app or 3rd party apps, such as Scene Parser.

      The first line is the header that provides the version number (#4.0#), title ("Guitar - Punch") and the bitmap index of what was selected in the snippet filter interface.

      The second line provides the 32 index numbers of the input assignments to the Routing, User In screen and the index number coincides with the column number (eg. 129 is Card 1). Zero (0) is OFF.

      If you want more details, have a look at Patrick's X32 OSC Protocol document, found here:
      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Snbwx3m6us6L1qeP1_pD6s8hbJpIpD0a/view
      • Mar 29
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    mitchellkrobbins
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-03-27

    Hello, 

    maybe I missed a thread about this but, we have been using a Midas m32r at our small church for several years. We have had a pro tech come in and help us reset the board and set it back up. We did that because we were having issues with the volume dropping out mid service. We are still having this issue. I have narrowed it down to the gain control on the channels not working properly. When turning up the gain it doesn't change anything until it hits about 75% then it "catches up" and won't turn back down. Then after a while it will drop out and get quiet again. Any suggestions?

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    • mitchellkrobbins
      MarkNorgren Install fresh firmware again. I have the same board and never heard of this before. Do you use a stage box? If so, has the firmware been updated on that also? How do you know it is the gain control? Does it happen on all on all channels? Do you have it plugged in to a good power conditioner? Seems odd, not sure what else it could be? With 32+ channels, maybe work around the problem channels? Maybe Kevin or Paul with chime in.
      • Mar 27
    • mitchellkrobbins
      KevinMaxwell I don’t know if I am the Kevin that Mark is referring to but I will try to help. The first question is this on all of the inputs or only certain ones? Are you using a digital stage box in this setup? I haven’t heard of this symptom in a mismatch of mixer to firmware updates. Does anyone know if there is a list anywhere as to the combinations that need to be for the mixer and stage box to work together properly?

      The other thing that can cause this to happen (with how you are describing) it is if a Gate is inserted somewhere is the signal chain that shouldn’t be there and is probably set all wrong. If this is a setup problem as in a mistake in a scene the best way to help you would be if you can post your scene here. Either put it in a drop box somewhere and post the link here or you can go to the first post you did in the thread and try and edit it and post the scene there and then put a new post in this thread telling us to look there for your scene. This is assuming you know how to copy a scene from the mixer. This forum doesn’t seem to allow anyone to post a scene unless you are the originator of a thread and you do it in the first post to the tread. Unless they change something here without telling us.

      If this was an analog console I would probably suspect the Gain Pot as being dirty or an intermittent solder connection. But the gain pot in a digital mixer doesn’t work that way. How old is the M32R and what is the conditions it is used in. In other words are you in an environment that is hard on electronics like a hot and humid place or in extreme weather conditions.

      On some electronics (I have never heard of this happening on any of these mixers) there is a condition that is usually referred to as having to jump the gap. In that situation there is a bad connection somewhere and when it is hit with a strong enough signal it might overcome the bad connection and start working for a little while. If this is what is happening there is a bad component somewhere or a bad connection somewhere, usually internal to the device. And it then would need to be sent in for repair.

      Reloading the firmware might be a good option just be aware that depending on if you are just reloading the same firmware that you already have or updating to the latest firmware you may or may not lose a bunch of your settings. That is another subject.
      • Mar 28
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    ChrisBallard
    Contributor - Level 1
    2022-03-27

    Hi folks,

     

    My venue has two Pro3's that are on their way out, and the monitor desk is all but unusable as lots of parameters are fluttering during use, including the gains, output levels and even EQ filters.

     

    So our plan until we can get that fixed is to swap in the Pro2 for monitors that we use in another venue. So we'd be using a Pro3 for FOH, connected to the 431, then using the 371 for DSP, and then the Pro2 for monitors.

     

    We hooked it up last night, but could not get the two 431's we have to sync with it. Is there a procedure that we need to follow to get this to happen? Or do we need to dumb down the firmware on the Pro2 to the same as the 431's for them to talk to each other?

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    • ChrisBallard
      Nigel67 Hi ChrisBallard. It should be as simple as unplugging the DL431 cables from the Monitor PRO3 DL371 AES50 ports and plugging them in to the PRO2 AES50 ports. You will need to make the PRO2 a Master or Slave depending on how the Monitor PRO3 was set up in the Preferences - Configuration page (if Slave assign the clocking Port) and highlight whether you are using the A or B DL431 inputs, but then you only have to assign the DL431's in the Config page. What software version are the DL431's running? If they are running 2.6.1 then that will be fine with the PRO2 or if they are running 3.4.6 then that will also be fine.
      • Mar 27
      • Connecting 431 to Pro2
        ChrisBallard We did that. I'll have to check the firmware version and see what we're on. I'll update you!
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        • Mar 27
    • ChrisBallard
      ChrisBallard

      So we had some more time to work on this on Monday and we discovered that we needed to set up a direct Generic AES between the two desks, seemingly because they were using separate DSP units. Once we did that, we changed the Pro2 to Master, the Pro3 to Slave, and changed the source of the Word Clock to be the Pro2. That made things 95% happy. Now, the only trouble is that the Pro3 is stating an Application Error on the X CAT5 from the second 431. But everything is passing audio and recognizing the 431 splits. Our manager is going to work on that today while I'm off.

      • Mar 30
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    Mark4Leons
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-03-21

    I have a singer that plays acoustic routed into 1 stage monitor. How do I eq and compress these two sources independently into one monitor bus? (pre Fader)

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    PetervandenBerg
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-03-21

    When i playback my audio/waves frommy DAW to M32 card and using channels 25 to 32 (4 stereo) and the rest of channels for my bandvocals etc. I get a enorm distorted signal from my soundcard on channels 25 to 32 what do i wrong

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    • PetervandenBerg
      KevinMaxwell Are the sample rate of what you are trying to playback and the M32 set the same?
      • Mar 21
    • PetervandenBerg
      PetervandenBerg

      yes 44,1 Khz

      • Mar 21
    • PetervandenBerg
      KevinMaxwell Same basic answer I wrote to someone else on here. Go to your original post in this thread and paste your scene from the M32 here and we can take a look and we might be able to tell you if it is a configuration error.
      • Mar 21
    • PetervandenBerg
      PetervandenBerg

      Sorry Kevin, i dont know what you exactly mean?must i search for an earlier post of the same problem

      • Mar 21
      • when i load my scene for using my DAW to play audio to M32
        KevinMaxwell NO! Copy the scene that you loaded onto your computer that exhibits this problem. Then Go to your original post in this thread and paste that scene from the M32 there and we can take a look and we might be able to tell you if it is a configuration error.

        Unless they changed something in this forum you can only paste a scene if you started the tread and you do it by putting it in your first post in this thread.
        • Mar 21
    • PetervandenBerg
      PetervandenBerg

      sorry i am 69 years old but see no option to upload my scene

      • Mar 21
  • New
    smor777
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-03-18

    Hi, 

     

    Recently I am doing a production where I am needing to use all 16 physical XLR outs between the DL16 and the M32R.... But for some reason, the M32R can only handle 8 outputs? I know the M32 can handle all 16... but for some reason the M32R cannot? This is the only real difference I can find between the two and am not sure why this is a thing. Let me know!

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    • smor777
      Paul_Vannatto The XLR screen is to assign outputs to the physical XLR-M jacks on the back of the console. That is why the M32 shows 16 outputs and the M32R shows only 8. The DL16 is connected to the console via AES50 (A or B). Therefore to assign the outputs for the DL16, you have to go to the AES50 (AES A or AES B) screen.
      • Mar 18
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    jjvirvi2022
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-03-18
    We acquired a MIDAS HD96-24-CC-TP with the DANTE and MADI card. What bridge do you recommend us to connect digitally the console with 2 Galaxy 816 with AVB Milan ? 
     
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    • jjvirvi2022
      Nigel67 Hi jjvirvi2022. Apologies for the lateness of the reply. I am sorry, but currently we do not have AVB Milan support. Although there may be some bridges on the market, we have done no testing with them and therefore cannot officially recommend any of them. You could try asking your question on some of the HD96 FB pages and there may be some users on there who could offer further advice. Many thanks
      • Mar 22
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    twilliams
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-03-17

    I have a M32  with an DN32-Adat Card. I would like to be able to use channels 31-32 for input from my keyboard and be able to send signal to what ever track I choose. 1 thru 24. Is this possible and does anyone know how to do it? Thanks!

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    • twilliams
      Paul_Vannatto Unfortunately your post is unclear. Is your keyboard connected to inputs 31-32 of the DN32-ADAT. What exactly do you mean by "whatever track I choose"? "Track" is not a correct term in the X32.
      • Mar 17
    • twilliams
      GaryHiggins I don't disagree with Paul, it's not clear what you want to do...but on the off chance you are asking about sending specific mixer inputs to DAW tracks using your M32, that can be done within the DAW software by selecting the desired specific ch input for the DAW track.

      Selecting what sources get sent from the Adat outs in the first place is done with the card out routing menu and can be almost anything in any order these days thanks to the "user" in/out routing menus.

      Within the mixer itself and in general, you can't send a ch to another ch. You can send any ch or multiple ch's to a bus (and that bus to an Adat out ch) You also can change any ch source to any specific ch from the available input pool on that channel's config page source dropdown list. So lets say ch 1 can have Ch 32 as its source instead of the original Ch 1-but not both at once.
      • Mar 18
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    MVPAC11
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2022-03-14

    I have two DL 16's running from an M32 mixer. One of them is boosting all inputs much too hot and over loading. I have the gain on all channels set to -2.5. The gains on the board are all the way down at -12. When I bring the fader up, it starts to overload at -50. The other DL16 is working properly. Anyone have this problem?

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    • MVPAC11
      KevinMaxwell i sounds like you have the configuration of the DL16 set to the wrong place. if you go to the preamp page what are you seeing there. if all you have is -18 to +18 you are looking at the trim level not the preamp gains.
      • Mar 14
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