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  • 2020-07-14
    I love the routing and connectivity of using Dante. most of the equipment I use in the live arena id Dante Consoles, computers, microphones etc. so I purchased an M32r with a DN32-Dante card for my recording studio and it is very powerful in the input/output routing. HOWEVER..... I cannot get the DAW Remote working. Does anyone know how I can use Dante AND have DAW work surface control with the M32. for now I have had to revert to the USB card which shipped with the console but the routing is not as flexible and easy as Dante.
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    • Colin Russell
      Paul Vannatto I believe you need to use the Dante VIA software in order to feed a DAW via the Dante network
      • Jul 14
    • Colin Russell
      Chase Mcknight The control data information used for DAW remote isn't available when using the DANTE, MADI, or ADAT expansion cards. If you want DAW control you will need to use the physical MIDI ports and configure the remote settings that way versus the Card. Something like an M-Audio Midisport Uno will do the trick.
      • Jul 22
  • 2020-07-14
    Can the MR18 be used in a standard Mac desktop (not a tablet) and will it play nicely with GarageBand?
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    • pafballou
      Rex Beckett The MR18 can be used with a Mac desktop and will play nicely with GarageBand and many other DAW packages.
      • Jul 14
  • 2020-07-13
    Hi, Want to upgrade our P16s to 8 DP48s. We have a DL32 connected to AES50 port A. Can I connect AES50 port B to a 12 port POE switch and send the signal from the switch to each DP48? Will this work? Basically this is the way the P16s work except that the switch is connected to the Ultranet port. Thanks for your help. Marcos Sebastian
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    •  Marcos Sebastian
      Rex Beckett AES50 will not pass through an Ethernet switch. You could either daisy-chain the DP48s on a single AES50 line or wait until the Hub4 is available.
      • Jul 13
      • Midas DP48 connection options
        Marcos Sebastian Thank you Rex. I will daisy chain for now until the Hub is available. Thanks again for the clarification.
        • Jul 13
      • Midas DP48 connection options
        Gary Higgins You can use power injectors though, there are several that work.
        • Jul 13
    •  Marcos Sebastian
      Josh Gibson Like others have mentioned, a POE switch will not work as it will not interpret the AES50 data correctly. You can use a POE injector to power them up. But each DP48 will not pass through the power because of the current handling limitations. So what you need to do is put a POE injector before each DP48. We did this by installing a 12 Port POE injector in our system rack behind the stage. Then I ran (2) Cat5E shielded cables to each floor pocket under the stage. So I run from Wing FOH to the POE injector Data port 1, then from POE port 1 out to the DP48 via floor pocket. Then back from the DP48 to POE injector Data port 2, and then just follow that pattern. This allows me to power up (4) DP48's and have just (2) Cat5E cables to each unit. No power supplies at unit, and no output cables. I get my output back from the DP48 to the Wing then route it so the D32 stagebox output, then route that output to my Wireless IEM transmitters for a stereo IEM feed. Its been working great. Total cable length is over 700ft. Longest single length is 205ft from FOH to rack. Then about 65-75 ft to each floor pocket.
      • Jul 23
      • Midas DP48 connection options
        Gary Higgins Nice Josh, I have an 8 port injector and 2 singles that work nicely, I only have 2 dp48's so far. I tested my poe with a 160 foot cat7 and they worked perfectly. I plan on using Cat7 or 8 for all my stage runs for the main benefit of flexibility, they behave more like mic cable than not. Then you also get great shielding on top. I have not really done any meaningful stage setups....I have no work! By the time the Hub hits the USA maybe this pandemic is by us....and I will eventually get one. Nice to have options though and it kept me busy experimenting! That and Stand alone use.
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        • Jul 23
    •  Marcos Sebastian
      Marcos Sebastian Josh / Gary, thanks for the detailed information regarding your setup. I installed 7 DP48s daisy-chained and they are working fine but the cabling is not pretty and if one of the middle devices is off, the others won't get the signal. I will try the POE injectors. Can you share which specific models switch / injectors you are using? Thanks again for your help.
      • Jul 24
      • Midas DP48 connection options
        Josh Gibson We bought ours on Amazon. It is PoE Texas Brand. It is a this one: WS-GPOE-12-48v60w gigabit Passive 12 Port Power Over Ethernet Injector POE with 48 Volt 60 watt for 802.3af Devices
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        • Jul 24
    •  Marcos Sebastian
      Marcos Sebastian Thanks again Josh. I will look into these items...
      • Jul 24
    •  Marcos Sebastian
      Gary Higgins I also have PoE Texas brand devices. I can't find my actual model of power supply. It says Model No WT5601200 on it and outputs 56V. You need at least 48v output to power DP48's. The Hub4 outputs 52V, 25 watts. My injectors are:

      https://www.amazon.com/WT-GPOE-8B-Ethernet-Injector-Ubiquiti-Mikrotik/dp/B077PDRLLL


      https://www.amazon.com/Ethernet-Injector-Combines-PoE-Connector/dp/B00EBCGJVW/ref=sr_1_56?crid=E56XNYT3XKE8&dchild=1&keywords=poe+texas+injector&qid=1595621306&sprefix=poe+texas+%2Caps%2C164&sr=8-56
      • Jul 24
      • Midas DP48 connection options
        Marcos Sebastian Thank you Gary! I appreciate it!
        • Jul 24
  • 2020-07-13
    I want to create a snippet that just saves mute group settings and it doesn't seem like that is possible. I don't want to select individual channels because the MUTE settings, although changed by the snippet, don't update the mute group status. This is very annoying because I want to set up a snippet to change my sub woofer send level, change my multiband compressor threshold and change the status of two mute groups. The sub woofer send level and multiband compressor threshold is easy enough to get it to work but where are the mute group statuses recorded in a snippet?
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    • Waldy Duester
      Rex Beckett The OSC command for Mute Group status is /config/mute/n state where n is the group (1..6) and state is ON or OFF. ON means that the group is muted. e.g.

      /config/mute/1 ON
      /config/mute/6 OFF
      • Jul 13
    • Waldy Duester
      Waldy Duester Thanks Rex. I was more interested as to which of the snippet selection prameters the mute group status lives under. Here is a screen shot from m32 edit.
      • Jul 13
      • Midas M32 - Where are the mute group settings 'stored' in a snippet?
        Paul Vannatto Actually they are selected using the Groups Param. Filter. But that also includes the DCAs as well. If you need just mute groups, you will need to edit the snippet file (exported) with a text editor (as Rex suggested) to remove the unwanted DCA's, then import that modifed scene file back into the snippet list. The advantage of using Scene Parser is that a scene can be exported to a file, loaded into Scene Parser, parsed with desired filters, then fine tuned in the Results editor to make the snippet do exactly what you want, no more, no less.
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      • Midas M32 - Where are the mute group settings 'stored' in a snippet?
        Waldy Duester Thanks Paul. When I tried using the Groups Param Filter in the snippet, the mute groups did not respond at all. I will explore editing the snippet file in a text editor.
        • Jul 13
    • Waldy Duester
      Rex Beckett I have never found a combination of Snippet filters that captures the Mute Group status. I just add the OSC commands to Snippets using a text editor. Alternatively, you could use Paul Vannatto's X32 Scene Parser to build Snippets from Scenes. See: https://sourceforge.net/projects/x32sceneparser/ The problem with this approach is that the Mute Group status in Scene files is a block command for all six groups rather than a command for each one.
      • Jul 13
      • Midas M32 - Where are the mute group settings 'stored' in a snippet?
        Waldy Duester Just out of curiosity, what other software tools do you guys use to help automate things on the m32 or m32 edit? I find that the platform is lacking in the ability to create macro's to help automate things. I've experimented with xfade (for automating fade outs and fade in of channels) but I haven't found anything that can tie all the 'needs' together: Needs being -smooth fade in/fade out, mute group activation/deactivation, fader position on certain channels, start recording, stop recording etc .... The m32 is a nice piece of kit but is still lacking for automated show control.
        • Jul 13
      • Midas M32 - Where are the mute group settings 'stored' in a snippet?
        Rex Beckett Take a look at some of Patrick Maillot's X32 tools here: https://sites.google.com/site/patrickmaillot/x32 Paul also has created several excellent tools. See: https://sourceforge.net/u/pvannatto/profile/
        • Jul 13
      • Midas M32 - Where are the mute group settings 'stored' in a snippet?
        Paul Vannatto Hi Waldy, as Rex mentioned Patrick has lots of various tools that he has developed for the X32/M32 consoles. He also wrote the X32 OSC Protocol document that has become the developers OSC bible. One thing to note is that the OSC protocol (mother tongue of the X32/M32) uses absolute values and is not time related. Therefore scenes and snippets are point-in-time absolute settings of the console. I developed Live Toolbox to enhance the capabilities of snippets in a new snippet-like function called tidbits (snippets on steroids). These include time-based commands such as fade, xfade, etc. and relative commands such as increase, decrease, etc.
        • Jul 13
      • Midas M32 - Where are the mute group settings 'stored' in a snippet?
        - mjk - I use X32ReaperAutoMate for mixing with full automation. It's Patrick's latest creation. https://x32ram.com/
        • Jul 14
    • Waldy Duester
      Waldy Duester Thanks Rex and Paul. I have not explored editing snippet files in a text editor.
      • Jul 13
  • 2020-07-12
    I have a Midas Pro2c and my musicians use the new DP48. I want to be able to talk to my musicians dp48s. Suggestions on how to make that happen? We used to be able to do it through our line 6 in-ear packs.
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    • Brett Clark
      Paul Vannatto If you are using the latest DP48 firmware (1.4), you can use AES50 chan 48 (both directions) as talkback. At least we can with the X32/M32 and Wing.
      • Jul 12
    • Brett Clark
      Nigel Turner Hi Brett, the DP48 only works at 44.1 or 48K whereas the PRO2C is 96K. You would need a DN9650 with an AES50 card to downsample from 96 to 48K. The channel info (LCD scribble colour/name/icon) from Pro Series is not shared to DP48 via AES50.
      • Jul 13
    • Brett Clark
      Jesus Ramallo Unfortunately there is not a Pro version of the DP48 (A poor fix as Nigel wrote), a shame
      • Sep 10
  • 2020-07-12
    I have an MR12, 1.2.3 that works well, but there's a problem with Channel 4 that I can't turn off the phantom power. It's been working continuously. What's the problem?
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  • 2020-07-10
    I intend to buy a behringer UCA 222 audio Interface device and I would like to know the revives of the existing user.
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    • Dominic Johnson
      Rex Beckett What is your application for the UCA222? What type of PC, OS and DAW software will you be using?
      • Jul 10
      • Behringer UCA 222
        Dominic Johnson Well an android and I intend to use an USB OTB.
        • Jul 10
      • Behringer UCA 222
        Rex Beckett I have used a UCA222 on an Android tablet with Audio Evolution Mobile software plus the add-on USB driver. It works OK provided the source has adjustable output levels. It does reduce the tablet's battery life, of course.
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        • Jul 10
    • Dominic Johnson
      Dominic Johnson Thank you, that of great help appreciate your time.
      • Jul 11
  • 2020-07-10
    Hey guys! Anyone have a clue when Midas is going to release compatible offline editors on the PRO series for macOS Catalina? I've got some shows coming in a while and i can't create my show files. Thanks!
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    • GeorgeKoleve
      Dale Minaker I am afraid there are no plans to create OLE for catalina as it is 64bit
      • Jul 10
    • GeorgeKoleve
      GeorgeKoleve It is a bit odd to have OLE for M32 and X32 but not for the PRO series... I can't understand it. Is there any good reason not to do it???
      • Jul 10
    • GeorgeKoleve
      Dale Minaker The M32 edit and Offline editor are for two very different software platforms and are not related to each other. The PRO series OLE was built on 32bit and would require as massive resource to rebuild to be usable on 64bit.
      • Jul 10
    • GeorgeKoleve
      GeorgeKoleve Ok understood! But come on.. It's 2020.. And this is a product for professional use. They must have our backs covered at anytime. Anyway i emailed them and i hope they answer and better off i hope they come up with a solution. Frankly i really like the pro series console due to ease of use and in terms of sound quality. But not being able to create my file pre show is quite a problem for me. Hope they make it!
      • Jul 10
    • GeorgeKoleve
      George Dougherty Could you run parallels and the Windows editor?
      • Jul 27
  • 2020-07-09
    Few months ago i buy a mixer from someone on ebay, he state that the board was a unit return from midas, i use it on my home studio and wasworkinggreat but 3 weeks after start to have some problems, suddenly start to make a pop sound and all the input meters star to go crazy and all the. Output reproduce the same pop sound even after disconnecting everything from the board, i have to turn off to make the problem go away but after couple times is just making the sound. Does anyone having this problem.
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    • Manuel Pineda
      Manuel Pineda I get the board from individual seller on ebay, what i notice is that the box have a rma number on it wich tell me that the board was send out sometime before. I took the board to a local service center and they is a psu problem but they have that board for a almost 2 months now and still waiting from them to call me back.
      • Jul 9
    • Manuel Pineda
      David Knighton Hi Manuel. I would recommend retrieving the console from the 3rd party service center and sending to Music Tribe Las Vegas for service. They will be able to turn your repair around within a week or two. The only caveat is that the console was purchased 2nd hand, so there is no warranty. You can still have the console repaired, but they will assess a fee. You'll want to navigate to the support tab on the community page and submit a request for service. Someone should be able to get you an RMA.
      • Jul 9
    • Manuel Pineda
      David Knighton Hello Manual. If the PSU is dropping out, then it will cause pops. There could be an issue with the input board as well. Did you buy the console from MusicFactoryStore or Music Tribe US eBay store?
      • Jul 9
  • 2020-07-09
    I have a Wing, DL16 and LD32. The DL 16 was easy to sync. The DL 32 shows green sync on device, but the Wing has red on the 'A' AES50 and does not pass audio. I did a firmware update on Wing and DL units, but no change.
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    • dvgservices
      Paul Vannatto That's really odd, that it would have a green sync on the DL32 stagebox and not on the Wing. Have you tried unplugging and plugging back in? Also try another port on the Wing. Oh and make sure you are using the A port on the DL32. It does not sync on the B port.
      • Jul 9
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