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    leftneok
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-23

    Good Afternoon to all,

    I wonder if there is any official literature, manual, quick start guide, detailed presentation or video tutorials for Herritage-D? Can somebody send me a link or give a date that anything of these would be available?

     

    Thanks in advance,

     

    Lefteris

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    • leftneok
      KyleJohnson Hello, Kyle here with Music Tribe Support. Not yet, but if you submit a Technical Support ticket through the Support link at the top of the page, we can answer any questions you have.
      • November 23, 2020
    • leftneok
      leftneok Hello Kyle, and thanks a lot for your answer. We are the distributors of Midas in Greece and we received our first mixer yesterday. In the context of presenting the mixer to our customers we would like to draw up a training program to show the capabilities and detailed handling of the console in a proper organized way. Any help on this we be really appreciated.
      • November 23, 2020
      • HD96 24
        KyleJohnson I'll be sending you an email shortly with further information.
        • November 24, 2020
  • New
    Amplifyps
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-20

    Preordered this console a few months ago to ensure I received one in 20, was informed in early October that my console would be shipping 10/30, only to be told today by my sales rep that the console I was supposed to receive will not be built now for months, literally no timetable...What is the reasoning for this?  Is this how Music Tribe supports their customers??

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    • Amplifyps
      john0121 Hi Marshall, sorry to here about the delay your experiencing with this. I'll reach out to you via email to get you speaking with the right person. Thanks
      • November 22, 2020
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    TomCosaert
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-18

    Hey! I have a Midas MR18 digital mixer (similar to the Behringer XR18) and want to connect from its (balanced XLR, mono) AUX outputs to the (unbalanced TRS, stereo) AUX inputs of a Behringer HA6000 headphone amplifier.

    Depending on the number of participants (mix-minus feeds for each), I would like to support the following two scenarios:

    1. stereo (L/R) headphone monitoring up to 4 people (Midas MR18 limit)
    2. mono (R+R) headphone monitoring up to 6 people (Behringer HA6000 limit)

    To be sure not to damage anything, I'd rather not start experimenting with different cables. Therefore, I have two questions (and a follow-up question, depending on the answer of the 2nd question):

    Question 1: Would a 2x XLR female to TRS male cable (wired as illustrated below) work for stereo (L/R) headphone monitoring (scenario 1), connecting (paired) MR18 AUX outputs to single AUX inputs of the HA6000?

    This would accomodate 3 headphones (AUX outputs only), or even 4 headphones (if I use the MR18 Main L/R outputs as well), to enjoy stereo monitoring.

    Question 2: Would the same cable also work for mono (R+R) headphone monitoring (scenario 2), when simply not connecting one of the XLR ends and pressing the "MONO R" button on the HA6000, or is leaving the ring (or tip) signal of the TRS cable "floating" like this a really bad idea?

    This would accomodate 6 headphones to be able to monitor in mono (mirrored).

    Question 2b: In case using the same cable for scenario 2 is not recommended (see above, question 2), would an XLR female to TS male cable be advised?

    Thanks a lot for any help with this! I've been searching the internet for hours already, but could not find any definitive answers to these questions. It seems not a straightforward thing, wanting to connect the MR18 to a HA6000, or similar device with unbalanced stereo inputs.

    Note: I currently also own the Behringer AMP800 (which has balanced inputs and allows the use of regular XLR to TRS cables) but I want more connectivity options. Unfortunately, it seems headphone amps with more balanced inputs are not that common.

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    • TomCosaert
      RexBeckett Hi Tom, your cable wiring is correct for dual XLR-F to TRS stereo. This should also work for mono if the HA6000 is switched appropriately.
      • November 18, 2020
      • Midas MR18 AUX Outputs to Behringer HA6000 AUX Inputs
        TomCosaert Thanks for the confirmation. Greatly appreciated!
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        • November 18, 2020
  • New
    Stedeb978
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-18
    I'm using my live setup - Midas Pro1 and DN9650 over Dante KT64 - now in the studio. 
    How can I record a single channel with a microphone connected to the Pro1 and at the same time send an audio file from the Daw to the Pro1? I can't find ways of flexibly routing the signals. The Pro1 works in Normal or Tape return mode, but with all channels simultaneously...this is fine for multitrack recording not for studio recording.
    Any solution? Many thanks
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    • Stedeb978
      Nigel67 Hi Stefano, maybe I am misunderstanding what you require, but you can patch the Dante card directly to an input channel and have audio playing through that at the same time as you are singing into the microphone. You can also patch the mic input to the Dante card output so that you can record this. You would just need to set your DAW up to play and record at the same time. Why do you want to patch the Dante input (via DN9650) to a tape return?
      • November 17, 2020
      • Midas Pro1 - DN9650 over Dante KT64 - studio recording configuration
        Stedeb978 Thank you Nigel, If set the Normal function in my Pro1I can record the signal from the microphone but the stereo track does not reach the Pro1. If, on the other hand, I set Pro1 to Tape Return, the stereo track arrives at the mixer but the microphone signal does not reach the DN9650. I'm sure I'm wrong but I don't understand what. Many thanks
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        • November 18, 2020
      • Midas Pro1 - DN9650 over Dante KT64 - studio recording configuration
        Stedeb978 Microphone is on ch1 of Pro1
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        • November 18, 2020
    • Stedeb978
      DanielPaine Hi Stefano. As Nigel mentioned: 'Normal' and 'tape return' settings are for mainly live multitrack playback BUT, you can keep the console in just 'normal' mode AND route the Dante card to a normal channel input (not a tape return). Just be careful not to send the DAW return back to DAW causing a feedback loop.
      • November 18, 2020
      • Midas Pro1 - DN9650 over Dante KT64 - studio recording configuration
        Stedeb978 ok i solved i made a mistake in the patching of the Pro1, many thanks!!!
        • November 18, 2020
  • New
    jbsounds
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-11-14

    Hey,

    We've got a Midas Pro2 at our FOH position for our theater and a DL251 on stage. I want to integrate the DP48s into this system for when we are doing musicals and have our orchestras present, what is the best way to do this?

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    • jbsounds
      GaryHiggins I'm speaking out of place here as I only wish I had a Pro2...or a DL251 :-) ...that said the DP48's only run on 44/48k clock so you would need to be able to do that with the Pro2, it may be able I don't know. Second the DL251 can't do pass thru that I am aware so you would probably need to have the option of a dedicated aes50 line to the DP48's. I don't think the DL251- even though the DP48's (edit: and Hub4) DO have a thru port-can receive from the DP48 (edit: or Hub4) either. if it can that would be a way to do it. If the Pro2 has a second (not redundant) aes50 line then that would probably be the best way to connect the DP's. On the Midas M32 for instance you have 2 ports so you could dedicate a line just for the DP48 if you wanted. My 2 cents, someone who knows the Pro2 in and out may be able to better direct you.
      • November 13, 2020
    • jbsounds
      DanielPaine Hi Joe.

      In short, currently the only way to convert the Pro Series to DP48 is to downsample to 48kHz using a KT-AES50 CM-1 card with either a KT DN9650 or Neutron (for the Pro X). Unfortunately the DP connection can not pass through Pro series stage box connections (Like M32 Series). So you would have to run another AES50 line from a DN9650 connected to the console.

      A couple of things to note: Once the signal is converted from 96 to 48kHz you can still use the Hub 4 to distribute the DP48's and also daisy chain.
      The Pro Series software does not allow the transmission of name/groups etc. This would have to be done by the Master DP48 which can be broadcast to all slave devices.

      Connection to Pro series and HD has been highly requested, so the idea of a Pro compatible Hub is being discussed. I'm afraid I can't comment on the timing of this concept. The KT-AES50 card in a DN9650 is the solution for now. Hope this helps
      • November 17, 2020
      • Midas Pro2 FOH, DL251 on stage, want to add HUB4 and DP48
        jbsounds Let's supposed I had a DN9650 with a KTDante64 card installed... If I'm only running two AES50 cables from the Pro2 to the DN9650, could I use the AES50 3 port on the DN9650 to run AES50 at 48k to the HUB4?
        • December 1, 2020
      • Midas Pro2 FOH, DL251 on stage, want to add HUB4 and DP48
        DanielPaine In theory yes because the Dante card can route/loop the signal back through the AES50 ports. There are some caveats: 64 channels of CM-1/Dante are mapped over the 3 AES50 ports: 1-24,25-48 & 49-64 irrespective of the sample rate of aes50 (i.e. at 48 or 96khz port 1 & 2 each handle 24ch. Port 3 handles 16). This means you can only access 16 channels on port 3 for DP48 connection. I'm also unable to 100% confirm that this works because of clock settings... But I can confirm that I have successfully played back 16ch from dante to 2 x Pro Series consoles and 1 x M32 suggesting it does work. I just can't remember the settings. sorry. Hope this helps though
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        • December 2, 2020
    • jbsounds
      DanielPaine I noticed you also posted the same question in a different space in the community. Nigel made an interesting suggest of a M32C or X32C with dante card. You could take the DN9650 and Dante to connect to a dante card of the M32/X32. This gives the benefit of not only providing 2 aes50 ports for DP48 connection, but you can use the m32 edit to do track names/groups (which you can push to DP48 devices). On top of this you can do additional processing like EQ and FX. freeing up dsp on your pro 2 for just foh
      • December 2, 2020
  • New
    keithbaumann
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-13

    If I install a Dante card in the Midas M32 and remove the DN32 USB card, will I still be able to link up to my DAW for multitrack recording?

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    • keithbaumann
      Paul_Vannatto Yes, by using the Dante virtual soundcard
      https://www.audinate.com/products/software/dante-virtual-soundcard
      • November 13, 2020
    • keithbaumann
      -mjk- It's not plug and play though. You'll have to set up the Dante audio network and optimize the settings for your situation. You have to setup the connections in the network (called "subscriptions") and then configure your DAW for the DVS ASIO I/O. I don't want to spam the forum, but I wrote 2 articles about setting up my Dante network with the X32 for my studio. phoenixmediaforge.com
      • November 15, 2020
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    JoelMcWilliams
    Newcomer - Level 2
    2020-11-13

    M32 with firmware 4.03 - how do you tell what scene is loaded?  Early versions of the firmware used to show me this but with recent firmwares that feature seems to have disappeared.

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    • JoelMcWilliams
      DanielPaine By default, the show view is normally set to 'Cues'. Changing this to scenes will reveal 2 names at the top of the screen so you can see what is loaded. Please see the pictures enclosed. The top text (shown in yellow) is the current loaded scene. While the name under this (In white) shows what you have selected to load next (before hitting the Go button.) Hope this helps.

      It's done this way in preferences so you can see which mode your automation is in. i.e. 'Cues', 'Scenes', or 'Snippets'. Changing the modes also coincide with how the 'show control' buttons work
      • November 13, 2020
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    CPMixing
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-12

    Hi,

    Just yesterday I was doing some tests at my studio and decided to plug in the FW 400-800 cable from my Midas Venice F32, into my OWC TB2 Hub that has a FW 800 port. The computer would not recognize it, so I plugged directly into the iMac with a FW 800 to TB2 adapter. Same issue. I then tried on my Macbook Pro (early 2013 retina 15" with High Sierra), no device detected still. I then uninstalled the Midas drivers and re-installed, both on my iMac and Macbook. No change. I then tried shutting the computer down, then turning the Midas off and back on, then re-booting the computer. Still no device detected. I also tried all of these same things with a different cable, same issue.

    It's been a looong time since I tried the Midas as an interface and this was the result. We also have 2 Apollo 8's and since I almost never need more than 16 inputs, I don't bother to use the Midas as a Digital Interface, only to monitor and run HP mixes. Only thing I noticed as far as the FW card is concerned, is the FW 400 port is a little loose, but still makes a solid connection(from feel at least) with the cable. The leds still light up above the sample rate and clocking text.

    Do I need a new FW Card? Any other troubleshooting I could try? Any specs not mentioned are below. Thanks for the help!!

     

    Computer Specs

    21.5” iMac running Sierra OS Quad CORE i7 3.1GHz Processor 16GB RAM
    1TB SSD

    Interfaces-2x Apollo 8 Blackface 2nd Gen, Dual Core(Thunderbolt 2) -Midas Venice F32(FW 800)

    Thunderbolt Hub-OWC 12 Port Thunderbolt 2 Dock

    DAW-Pro Tools 12.6.0 

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    • CPMixing
      DavidKnighton Hello Chris Pummill,
      Mac OS El Capitan is the latest OS that our firewire driver will support. I would suggest testing on an earlier OS, or if you have a Windows 7 machine with firewire, you can try that as well with the PC driver.
      • November 12, 2020
      • Midas Venice F32 FW Issues
        CPMixing Thanks David! Unfortunately, with our other DAWs and plugins, we can't go back OS-wise right now. It's a bit of a tricky setup because I record and mix out of the studio frequently, but we pay our bills by renting our space monthly to 10-15 different people. So any changes at all need to consider a large group of people. Worst case scenario, we just don't use the Midas as a digital interface anymore.

        Is there any way to tell if the FW card is working without reverting our computers to prior OS'?
        • November 12, 2020
      • Midas Venice F32 FW Issues
        CPMixing Also, I can't be 100% sure, but I believe I've used the Midas as an interface with the iMac and Sierra OS a few years ago with great success. Since we purchased our Apollos, I haven't bothered to use it, which is what led to the current confusion and troubleshooting. Nothing has changed on our iMac in YEARS because of potential compatibility issues and because its incredibly stable as-is.
        • November 12, 2020
    • CPMixing
      Dale_M Hi Chris, no not really as this is the only way to check the FW card is "seen" by the computer, you could try an old laptop running on an earlier Windows software but it's not guaranteed much past WIN 8 from memory, it def works on XP/Vista/Win 7/Win 8 and as my colleague David has stated on MAC up to El Capitan. It can be made to work with Sierra/High Sierra but these are unsupported workarounds, that said many users have had success -there was a KB article on it but the attachments are down at present. I think my suggestion with a laptop may be worth verifying if you can get hold of one as a starting point.
      • November 12, 2020
      • Midas Venice F32 FW Issues
        CPMixing Thanks Dale! Having read up on SIP and how it can help with newer OS's seeing the MIdas, is there any major downside to disabling it, even temporarily?
        • November 12, 2020
  • New
    evancgrimes
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-11

    So I'm looking to upgrade the firmware on my ProX, DL231 and Neutron, but I have Dante cards and DN9650 linked up. If I were to upgrade the firmware would there be complications with Dante like a firmware mismatch. My concern is that my board would be out till Dante or Klark Teknik matched their firmwares with Midas. Sorry if this seems like a dumb question but I've had issues like this arise with Dante before and I'd rather avoid these problems in the future. 

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    • evancgrimes
      DavidKnighton Hello Evan Grimes,
      When it comes to the ProX, Dante card, and 9650, each have different firmware releases. They do not need to be matched in order to work together. The biggest concern would be to ensure the Pro X and Neutron firmware are matched, as well as any stage boxes, as they are form the bulk of the system. The Dante card and 9650 are subsystems which are more or less 1 trick ponies, so there's never a need to release updates to them. I.e. if it ain't broken, don't fix it. Rest assured, you can update the console, dsp, and stageboxes and still maintain functionality with the Dante cards and 9650. We've been on firmware 3.4.6 for quite a while now and no reports of issues with Dante and 9650 that I can speak of.
      • November 11, 2020
      • upgrading firmware on a ProX with Dante integration
        evancgrimes Thanks so much!
        • November 11, 2020
  • New
    matiflemita
    Newcomer - Level 1
    2020-11-10

    cuando quiero entrar a la ventana de registro de Midas, me lleva a una ventana de musictribe en cuyo listado de marcas
    a registrar no se encuentra Midas. Necesito registrar el producto antes de que vensa el plazo de 90 dias desde que la compre
    pero en la pagina no esta la posibilidad como menciono arriba. Como puedo hacer? Gracias desde ya

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    • matiflemita
      KyleJohnson Hello Matias, Kyle here with Music Tribe. To register your product, click on the Support button at the top of this page and then select Product Registration.
      • November 10, 2020
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