Midas

Hi @LenMinNJ,

Check out this video to help get started. The DN32-USB is for audio recording/playback and not for remote control of the console. You can connect the PC directly to the M32C via ethernet cable but if you plan on using a tablet you'll need a router. 

M32C Quick Tip - Wireless iPad Setup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZApEOXAjj4

Hope this helps!

Hi George @georgekaripidis 

Welcome to the forum. Which Midas console do you have? Is it the MR18? If so, assigning signals to the P16 is done on the Routing, Ultranet screen in the M-Air Edit app.

yes MR 18

there I will be able to give each individual tension

Hi John @JohnShepherd ,

The FX engine is identical in the X32, M32, X-Air and M-Air family of consoles.

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@JohnShepherd wrote:

Hi, I'm looking at these 2 consoles as options to add to my RCF speaker system. I'm aware the fx processing of the X32 does not compensate for latency. I'm looking for the story behind the fx in each. 

Are they identical processors? 

Does latency mean much in smaller rooms? I don't have a large rig. 2 RCF 708 subs and 2 RCF 745A cabs for front. Thanks very much, Shep

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The way that the consoles that compensate for latency work is they add delay to everything to keep everything in line. So you have more overall latency in your system. The only problem with not having this is if you send the same signal thru 2 different paths (with one of them going thru an FX)  and then combine them, one of them will be out of time with the other one. That is not good.

So it is like the old joke – a guy comes into the doctor wildly waving his arm above his head and says – Doctor it hurts when I do this and the doctor replies – then don’t do that.

So don’t route the same signal thru 2 different paths and then combine then. At least not without testing to see if they are still time aligned.

And here is a little hint if you have never tried it, add a little bit of delay to your feed to your main speakers so they are time aligned with the acoustic signal coming off of the stage. And then try turning that delay on and off and see if it helps. I always time align my sound systems to the stage and it makes it much smoother sounding in the house. I like to say that with it delayed the speakers have a tendency to disappear and with the delay off you notice the sound coming out of the speakers instead of it sounding like it is coming from the stage.

I would hope that with such a fine mixer of great capabilities, you would often use multiple mics!  Wish I had the midi answer, but happy new year anyway!

Not sure if it's the same, but I did find a document that listed the Behringer Midi CC Values (which I can't seem to find again right now) that listed the Mute values as Midi Channel 2, then the CC value went from 0 (or 1?) being Mixer Channel 1 sequentially up thru the DCA's. The ones I use, for example, are Bus 16 is CC 63,  and DCA 2 is CC 73.

Standard ; 127 is On, 0 is off. Hope maybe that helps.  They sure don't make it easy to find info, tho.  I just found out I could use Midi Channel 7 to control my XLive card - haven't seen that one anywhere else either.

This all assumes that the Midas Pro series consoles have the same Midi Implementation as the X32/M32. Do They?

Hello

in the FX-Rack of the analyser you'll find 2 buttons called CHANNEL and SOLO

if you activate one of these buttons you will have the RTA overlaied to the P-EQ individuel view in the GUI.... (when soloing or selecting a given channel)

Hi zigson

Go to the rta and press the button follow channel (or something like that)

I had to do it today after full reset.

Cheers Werner

hello Werner
it was not me that posted the question ! I posted the solution (as you did as well)
it was mahdi95 who posted initially that question !!

@soundsystemspro 

Hello Periklis, welcome to the community.

The fastest way for us to help is if you save the scene from your console and attach the file to your post. See Choose File button below.

hi 

this is the scene that i have. 

thanks again.

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@soundsystemspro wrote:

hi 

this is the scene that i have. 

thanks again.

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@soundsystemspro 

In your routing, you are sending the DL32 inputs back to the outputs. Instead you need to route the console outputs to the DL32 outputs through the AES50-A port. I have marked the important part of this routing:

AES50-A Output Routing

This routing is corrected in the attached version of your scene.

Are you using the console XLR outputs for anything? The routing for these also looks a little unusual.

im very pleased !!!

thanks so much

just solve the problem.

i send to you my regards!!!

@CayeTorres 

Hi Cayetano, welcome to the community.

Only the console connected to AES50 port A of the DL32 can adjust the preamp gains and select phantom power. The console connected to DL32 AES50-B port has +-18dB of digital trim on each of the inputs. With the exception of the preamp gains, both consoles can process the inputs as required with EQ and dynamics.

Rex, thank you very much for your response. I really didn't know that the gains were only controlled by the console that enters through the aes50a port of the DL32. But my problem is that when I try to change an eq to a channel, or a gate, or a compression from the iPad (which is how I operate the M32c) it ignores me. And another thing I have doubts about is the following: ¿Do I have to load a show or scenes through the USB input of the M32C or with the internal synchronization selected from the M32 should the same scene appear on the iPad?   Hopefully together we can find the solution. thanks and sorry again for my english!

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@CayeTorres wrote:

Rex, thank you very much for your response. I really didn't know that the gains were only controlled by the console that enters through the aes50a port of the DL32. But my problem is that when I try to change an eq to a channel, or a gate, or a compression from the iPad (which is how I operate the M32c) it ignores me. And another thing I have doubts about is the following: ¿Do I have to load a show or scenes through the USB input of the M32C or with the internal synchronization selected from the M32 should the same scene appear on the iPad?   Hopefully together we can find the solution. thanks and sorry again for my english!

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@CayeTorres 

Do you have any control of the M32C from your iPad? There have been some recently reported problems with compatibility issues between the M32 app and iOS versions. I believe channel settings were affected.

With your system configuration, there is no communication between the two consoles except that the FOH console provides the master sync to the M32C through the DL32. Each console will have its own settings. When you load a scene on the M32C, the settings should show on the app if the iPad is correctly connected to the console's network port.

If you want to use the M32C as a monitor console and send the mixes to the DL32 outputs, your current configuration will not work - only the FOH M32 can send to the DL32 outputs. Instead you need to configure the system as:

M32 AES50-B <--> AES50-A M32C AES50-B <--> AES50-A DL32 

The M32C will, by default, have full control of the DL32 preamps and can send to the DL32 outputs. The M32C will route all the DL32 inputs to the M32 and can, if required, route outputs from the M32 to the DL32. We can help you with the routing if you tell us how you want the inputs and outputs arranged. 

@RexBeckett @GaryHiggins 

Thank you very much for your help. I will try to connect everything this way then M32 AES50-B <--> AES50-A M32CAES50-B <--> AES50-A DL32 the routing would be as follows: outputs 1-8 for in ears, out 14 sub, out 15 L out 16 R   If you need any more information I will be happy to give it to you! Thanks again!

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@CayeTorres wrote:

@RexBeckett @GaryHiggins 

Thank you very much for your help. I will try to connect everything this way then M32 AES50-B <--> AES50-A M32CAES50-B <--> AES50-A DL32 the routing would be as follows: outputs 1-8 for in ears, out 14 sub, out 15 L out 16 R   If you need any more information I will be happy to give it to you! Thanks again!

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@CayeTorres 

This routing assumes that you are running firmware V4.01 on the M32C. It could be done with V3.12 if necessary.

All 32 M32C Inputs come from the DL32 on AES50-B:

M32C Input Routing

The M32C sends all 32 inputs to the M32 over AES50-A. It also sends outputs to the DL32 using the User Out crosspoint (see later).

M32C AES50 Routing.

The M32 takes all 32 inputs coming from M32C over AES50-B:

M32 Input Routing

All 16 M32 outputs are sent to the M32C over AES50-B:

M32 AES Routing

In the M32C, the User Out crosspoint is used to route local outputs 1-12 and M32 outputs 14-16 to the DL32:

M32C User Out

Let us know if you have questions or need any changes.

What you've shown of the routing looks fine, but there could be more to it.  Upload your whole scene file.  Have you checked that the bus masters are up, and that they're not muted, both with their own master mutes and via mute groups\DCAs?

@dmorrier The answer is yes. I would check your aes50 outputs menu and make sure "out 1-8" and "out 9-16" are set correctly for the aes50a 1-8 and/or aes50b 1-8 outputs and that both stageboxes are set to the right mode (probably both at mode 1). Your pic shows you are using post fader tap points so as Craig alluded to, make sure the faders are up and unmuted. Bottom line though is mix busses can surely be routed to the DL/S16 outputs. That assignment is done via the aes50a or b output routing menu. Make sure the DL/S16 is connected via its A port. Also what tap point are you using for direct out of the ultranet. Try using the same post fader MIXBUS assignments for the ultranet and check your meters to see if the signal no longer appears. That would indicate that it is a fader issue.

Hi Ron @S-Audio , 

Did you remember to take the channel out of the Main LR mix?  It sounds like you have both the dry signal and the wet return in the mix. 

Ken